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2:20 PM
What is the best way to keep the bottom sub-footer inside the parent div when resizing the browser? codepen.io/anon/pen/NGOJRZ
 
2:35 PM
epic door
the actual door is pretty small though
 
Where's that?
 
awkward. Anyone know how to center the text in a select? I've tried bootstrap text-center and center-block also style="text-align:center" but none of those work :c
 
3
A: align text inside drop down to middle

AlexUse top and bottom padding and remove height to align the text in the middle, like .select{ padding: 4px; } Your updated CSS would be .select{ width: 224px; border: none; font: normal 14px/16px "HelveticaNeueLTCom45Light" , Georgia,serif; display: block; float: none; ...

Everybody gets one.
 
@Cerbrus that must be a Chrome thing; in Firefox they still play as soon as you open them. But now in FF42 you can mute a tab which is nice
@Sippy no clue
Paris apparently
 
Whoa, 3 days back
That doesn't work in FF, @TylerH? That's a shame.
 
2:45 PM
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Q: HTML5 canvas issues on Android 4.1.1

darkyndyNow that Android 4.1.1 is out there on some phones I noticed that issues start to pop out using default browser and this OS. In my case I have an application that uses web views (meaning default browser) and a lot of canvas. I want by having this topic that everyone to post found issues and sol...

plz reopen
 
Now I wonder if it's a YT feature that's broken in FF, or a Chrome feature
@easwee Why?
 
because those who voted to close have no idea what it is about obviously
 
@Cerbrus yeah apparently I left the chatroom tab open at work over the weekend X-D
I'll test it now on YouTube
 
perfectly reproducable problem
 
@easwee The question is from Oct '12.
 
2:46 PM
yes
 
It's too broad
 
no it's not
 
It is
 
I had the same problem today
there i sno other way to describe it
also I managed to solve it
read comments below
rest of SO answers that try to depict this same problem are crap
 
Come on, just read the question. There's multiple problem statements, there's no code.
 
2:48 PM
@Cerbrus Yep, went to YT, clicked a video from the home page with my mmb, it opened in a new tab, and played automatically
and I'm on the HTML5 player
 
how come it solved my problem just by reading the comments?
 
This question meets none of the quality standards questions have to meet.
@easwee: Just because it helped you doesn't make it a quality question that should be re-opened
 
pft
15 upvotes says nothing?
 
@TylerH So, apparently it's a chrome thing then
@easwee On a 3-year-old uestion
5 upvotes per year
 
@easwee I'm not sure what it's asking
 
2:49 PM
is nothing
 
pft whatever
 
Actually, there, delete-vote.
 
@Cerbrus geez way to make me feel like nothing :-(((((
 
just hope it won't get deleted because it contains useful info
hate SO sometimes
you don't need code to solve all answers
 
@easwee: Just because it helps someone doesn't mean the question has to be on SO.
 
2:51 PM
@easwee It seems there's the same question and solution listed here: stackoverflow.com/questions/18271990/…
 
SO would need a merge feature to merge to questions into one
two*
both contain info that the other doesn't have
 
Mods can do that
But, no.
The question you linked already contains way too much questions
 
3:06 PM
@easwee i dont see why that question should be opened. it might be reproducible, but the OP didn't provide any could that would do so. it also appears to have reference different problems that are potentially unrelated.
 
How would I force the sm_Footer div to be 100% of the parent width but not outside, my Close button on the bottom right disapears when I resize the browser smaller: codepen.io/anon/pen/NGOJRZ
 
@JoJo doesn't seem to disappear at all for me
no matter what size my browse ris
 
kk
 
3:25 PM
Guys. Given a page designed so that the browser address bar disappears on scroll to bottom, do you have a reasonable solution to make that address bar also hidden on arrival to the page (it's fully scrolled, it's the miaou chat) and also when the virtual keyboard opens ?
 
Uh, I don't remember, but there's some stuff like adding 60px or so to your page height, and then scrolling by that amount
About the virtual keyboard problem, I don't know
 
@SomeGuy I already scroll a lot and the page is much higher than the viewport height plus 60 px
but maybe I misunderstand your solution
 
Do you have a delay before scrolling?
No, I think you understood it fine
 
@SomeGuy yes, there's a delay (I scroll when I receive the messages)
 
Oh, how about on page load?
 
3:28 PM
you mean page ready ?
 
Yeah, before any messages come in
I'm sorry, I'm rusty. What I remember may not even be relevant anymore
 
@SomeGuy I just tried it, it doesn't work.
 
I vaguely remember doing a window.scrollTo(0, 1); with a setTimeout too
Try that?
 
yes
(saw it on html5rocks)
but the thing is I'm already scrolling to the bottom so it's not really relevant
 
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Q: Impossible to hide navigation bars in Safari iOS 7 for iPhone/iPod touch

asv2001I don't believe there is any solution to hide bars programmatically using javascript/css/html, but let me try to describe a problem. We are the team of mobile game developers and we have been developing a game for one year. After iOS 7 announcement we have faced the problem that it is IMPOSSIBL...

iOS 7?
 
3:35 PM
@SomeGuy android
 
Or are you on Android?
Ah
 
(probably other browsers too, but I can't test and I don't have many test reports as it's a new version)
 
I get the feeling that you can't get that to happen without user interaction
 
maybe
 
crl
man, I dislike bootstrap.. how do you do when you want 5 children in a column container? which class can you give them?
with their shitty unflexible 12 equal spaces thing
 
3:51 PM
Does anyone know what FONT the OP uses for the image in the post? graphicdesign.stackexchange.com/questions/13564/…
 
crl
have you tried commenting to ask him?
 
"Last seen Dec 23 '12 at 3:05" That dude never returned after the 2012 conspiracy
 
crl
ha, right
 
Forgot to mention, I tried WhatTheFont but it recognizes the S as "&" and the o as "N" having no luck
 
4:01 PM
it might need editing to remove the perspective in order for it to identify the glyphs
 
@KTOV Ask the top answerer
He was last active 15 minutes ago and he used the exact same font
 
@TylerH Ahh damn dude, I just joined the graphic design club and I start on 1 reputation so I can't comment -.-
 
"Once we have those guidelines, the developers can get trained and we can practice following the guidelines to promote consistency. The consistency will start with the developers, and then spread to the BAs once the developers start educating the BAs and UX designers on what is technically feasible and not feasible."
They have our BA team making wireframes for this app.
So fucking backwards.
 
by BA do you mean business analyst
 
Yeah
They're not consistent and don't make sense half the time
Instead of getting a dev to review the wireframes before they go to into production
They want us to just argue about them while they're in production.
So we get nothing done and have a shit ton of carryover.
Maybe I should type all this shit out in a username that doesn't use my last name.
 
4:22 PM
Well typically a BA would make a wireframe to present at a meeting with the developer and the designer, so that the developer can determine if it's feasible, and if so, the designer can create the design elements
Because the app is driven by a business need, which the analysts are most in tune with
I'm assuming you mean a wireframe like this:
 
I see a lot of inefficiency with that. Does it make more sense for the BA and Product Owner to write out stories that describe need and then collaborate with the dev/designer?
 
crl
is there a bootstrap in flexbox version? something less shitty for columns
 
@crl what?
 
crl
bootstrap, you know it?
 
Bootstrap in Flexbox Version?
 
4:26 PM
@crl Yes, your sentence doesn't make sense
 
crl
38 mins ago, by crl
man, I dislike bootstrap.. how do you do when you want 5 children in a column container? which class can you give them?
there's no way to have 5 equals columns
 
So you want to know if Bootstrap supports flexbox?
 
Yes there is
You just set your row to 10 instead of 12
 
crl
how?
 
129
Q: Five equal columns in twitter bootstrap

67616e64616c66I want to have 5 equal columns on a page i am building and i can't seem to understand how the 5 column grid is being used here http://web.archive.org/web/20120416024539/http://domain7.com/mobile/tools/bootstrap/responsive Is the five column grid being demonstrated above part of the twitter boots...

 
4:27 PM
Are you useing Bootstrap LESS or SASS?
 
crl
@Plummer yes, but it's completely unflexible, I need something generic (doing a CMS)
 
Or what @TylerH said
 
Literally the first Google result for "5 equal columns in bootstrap"
 
crl
checking it
 
lol
So it's less, "This is impossible" and more "I don't know how to do this"
Bootstrap, Foundation, Bourbon/Neat all do the same shit.
Generally
 
4:29 PM
@Plummer writing out stories that describe the need sounds way less efficient to me than a wireframe
with stories, you'd probably ultimately get a better product due to more descriptive detail, but it would take longer because the designer/developer can only make guesses
you can go 'round and 'round
 
crl
it doesn't go on full width. it's nice though — machineaddict Jul 3 '13 at 9:59
seriously well, sorry but.. I need to support any number of columns, in a for loop
 
@TylerH I think it depends on the scope of the project. For a large, commercial application, it appears to be almost necessary. That, or the BA's need an actual UX designer on the team.
 
if the BA creates a wireframe based on business needs, then you can just work directly off of that
@crl notice there are approximately 12,000 other answers
@Plummer Analysts creating a wireframe should be highly flexible because they should be cognizant of the fact they're not (UX) designers
 
crl
ok thanks, but I think I'll mix bootstrap with a bit of flex since it's well supported (will take care of IE<11 later)
 
@crl bootstrap varialbes file
search for @grid-columns
 
4:34 PM
@Mr.Alien My internet is as bad as yours now
rip LEM
 
@Sippy LEM?
 
Legendary Eagle Master
 
crl
@Plummer yes but this is done at less compilation time right?
 
...isn't everything?
 
crl
I'd like something dynamic, e.g. user has 6 equal columns, and wants a 7th, in js (so you'd have to make a server request for this? for doing the less compilation etc...)
 
4:39 PM
@Sippy cs?
 
Dude.
 
crl
yes
 
Keep editing the same line.
 
crl
what?
 
@easwee Yeah :D
 
4:40 PM
It will depend on how you want to arrange your grid. I don't know or anyone who compiles LESS dynamically on page load.
 
smh
 
You compile your styles when they go into production.
Generally in a deployment workflow.
 
crl
@Plummer do you see that I want something completely dynamic? the CMS user changes the paramater of the grid on the page itself
bootstrap seems ok for static content, dynamic it's a pain
 
@Plummer the only time i have ever felt the need to write out "user stories" is for my first dev job. the company owner, who was dictating the direction of the project, was completely out of touch with who our users were and why they come to our site. he had a "if we are just like facebook, people will like us" mentality
 
@cimmanon lol
reminds me of all the "facebook killer" app stories
 
4:43 PM
@Sippy heh lame did they lower your bandwidth or wut?
 
back when people thought they could kill facebook
 
@cimmanon This project is for cloud based dental software. You only really understand the complexities of the UX and User needs if you're a dentist
 
@crl I would use a function to recalculate the col width to a specific number each time the user adds/removes one
 
Without user stories, it's almost impossible to understand what you're trying to do
 
crl
facebook probably made one good thing at least (react)
 
4:44 PM
Since you want user-customizable column amounts you're gonna have to use JS anyway
 
crl
@TylerH good point
or flex-box :) no need of %
 
well yes, but flexbox doesn't have to work in Bootstrap
and there are some edge cases, especially with IE
 
@Plummer i dont think you need "stories" to do that. unless your idea of story is something completely different from mine. the kinds of stories ive seen are "sally is a 32 year old mother of 3 and cant setup her own email client"
 
Totally different @cimmanon
 
@DNC Why did you invite me to another room ?
 
4:47 PM
you just need a basic flowchart. these are the user's objectives, heres a list of tasks the user needs to complete to achieve those objectives
 
crl
IE<11 is what? 1%? caniuse.com/usage-table
 
@cimmanon we don't get user flows either
 
@crl it depends on your userbase, but I was including 11
 
This is a user story I'm talking about
As a user, in a Condition Session, I need the ability to review all of the conditions I have applied to all the teeth in the current session.
 
globally IE9 usage is negligible but at my job something like 99% of users are on IE9 and can't change
 
crl
4:48 PM
@TylerH flexbox works well on 11
 
@crl yes, I said edge cases :-)
 
So it's like a "shopping cart" of how many cavities a dentist would see in a patient at checkup appointment
Here's how the story was submitted to dev
As a user I need the ability to add or edit a condition to a tooth in the clinical chart.
That's like, an epic level story
The rest of the user interation was written out in acceptance criteria
And a bunch of stuff was missing
 
@Plummer I wouldn't call those "user stories" so much as "requirements"
 
@TylerH fair enough
 
and since you asked, crl, IE<11 usage globally is 3.29%
 
4:52 PM
Hey guys. Now I'm creating ui buttons for my web app / site ... I have a whole bunch of different buttons for actions .. eg. opening a modal, saving something or a refine a filter button. For the best practice and for seo ... should I use links for such buttons when no linking is actually done or div blocks (no semantic meaning) with special cursors assigned to them?
 
which is approximately 99 million people
 
So, then the problem is the requirements aren't written in a way that makes sense and lack consistency.
 
@Plummer wireframes and data flow diagrams help with that
 
@TylerH Yeah, but I can't get the project director to agree to let us develop those before the features come down to dev
So we spend half the sprint just trying to figure out what they want
 
first the analysts should discuss how data should flow (information, not data as in actual bytes) with a dfd, then based on that they should create wireframes to bring to the UX designer and developer
 
4:54 PM
And then have a bunch of carry over.
 
The best you can do in that case is keep a record of all the times you've had to figure stuff out that would be fixed by handling that beforehand, and then use that evidence against the project manager or director or whomever so that whoever can make a decision will see the value in it
Ron Swanson <3
 
@TylerH That's the next step. What sucks is the higher ups deciding, "Let's just add another 20 story points each sprint to motivate the team to try harder."
 
I think the problem might be that they're calling them "story points"
if you refer to them pointedly as "requirements" maybe they'll understand it's not such a good idea to just add more without giving you more time
and hopefully they don't just respond with "well a good architecture from the beginning would mean easy implementation of new ideas seamlessly without having to spend time restructuring"
 
The structure is: Product Backlog Item (PBI) contains requirements. PBI's are given story points based on requirements. X number of story points are taken on each sprint.
The response was they want the developers to enforce design standards on the BAs. But the developers have no clue what standards should be because they aren't the ones writing the requirements.
 
Did anyone tell "they" that?
 
5:01 PM
Yup
 
Well there ya go. It'll be fixed, right? This is a perfect world, right? :-P
 
@TylerH Kumbaya, mother fucker.
I made a slide show and everything.
2 Legit 2 Quit
 
Not enough hand drawn circles/arrows
dislike
 
Should have written it in crayon
 
yep, it would have that "personal" flair then
 
5:12 PM
@TylerH story points have nothing to do with requirements, but with project velocity - at the begining of sprint you estimate the tasks with story points usually based on fibonacci (1, 2, 5, 8, 20) - short tasks get 1 hard tasks get 20 if a task wants more then 20 it has to be split in two sprints because it won't be completed in the given sprint
it's devs job to estimate the tasks on sprint planning
you should be real - try to not underestimate tasks
it's for your own good since you will only commit to deliver that ammount of work - sprint will keep you protected from higher management's "brilliant every day ideas" that you won't go implementing because you are commiting to the sprint
story points also help the project manager to track the project progress - if you are using some decent managing software like Jira you get autogenerated burndown charts
if more tickets get added to sprints or unclosed tickets remain in a sprint you will see it on the burndown chart since the red and green graph won't match
this can alert the project manager early before project delivery that the team is badly behind the schedule
 
@easwee oh it's a sprint thing
 
why people hate story points is because you have to give a honest estimate before you actually go to code
and the management may be angry at you for under/over estimating a task
 
I shudder at agile development
 
but you actually get a feeling for it once you have worked with sprint metodology for some time
agile is good
compared to waterfall
 
and waterfall
 
5:17 PM
I've been working in agile teams for 5 years now
and I can say that it is a great way to work - but whole team must commit to it and you must not have slackers
not saying it's perfect but it is one of the best ways to work
and it can work for a team of 5 or 5000 people
@TylerH you may but you need to be organized when you are working on a large scale project that involves many people :)
chaos just does not work
 
@easwee hah! guess you don't remember Windows ME then :-D
 
ofc I do lol
but it's 2015 nao :D
 
gods... that was 15 years ago
 
yeah lol
 
hurry up age curing technology!
I'm ready to live hundreds of years
!!afk lunch
 
5:31 PM
@easwee They're using TFS now and just dumping requirements straight into PBI's. The problem that arises is that the PBI's have inconsistencies between then because they are being created and written in their own little micro-cosms.
There's no central requirements documents for particular areas of functionality in the app
 
@easwee I agree. I work amongst a lot of chaos. Project management is apparently too much to ask for here.
 
@Plummer well just saying you are doing agile does not mean you are doing it right :D
 
@easwee agreed
I tried introducing them to confluence. They just kind of spit it back at me.
 
heh - we use it a lot, it's specially usefull because we have offices all around the globe and you often don't even know who you need to speak to get something done - so you just check in confluence who's assigned to the project and where to find him
also you have all the specs in place
and any docs you may need to provide (usually API and integration docs) you just put there and the sales when they need info read all from the confluence - I never get contacted by anyone asking me some trivial stuff about the project
even if someone would need to they speak to our project manager and he will then ask me if even needed - it's mostly such trivial stuff he can answer since he knows the project enough
makes a devs job actually a dev job
no mail bouncing
 
crl
5:50 PM
bootstrap doesn't like float output.jsbin.com/juziwu
 
6:01 PM
4
Q: Javascript: How to get the month name of the current date without setting an array of month names?

Beast_CodeI am attempting to get the month name of the current date using the JavaScript Date(); class. I have noticed that there isn't a way to do this unless I create an array of strings with the month names. var month = new Date(); month.getMonth(); > 10 I am looking to get "November" instead of an i...

close as duplicate answer is taken from other answer on SO
 
6:13 PM
 
my python never gets used :(
 
crl
dang wanted to use title in body to avoid repeating it in the head, but it's not shown
I wish you could do in CSS, title = h1 and extend it I guess that's what less or sass does
 
@crl man you should find some sort of html/css online tutorials or course
 
Abe
@Kitler it might been slow, but i liked it
 
@Abe that's what she said
which is actually good I guess
:D
 
Abe
6:19 PM
lol
 
crl
@easwee I've a w3school certification in html/css.
10
 
@crl that's rad man
 
crl
some people lacks humor
 
wut I starred your joke
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Q: The Teams Private Beta is Starting

Thomas OrozcoThe Teams private beta is starting now! Here’s what a Team page looks like: What’s Happening Now? For Users That Are Enrolled in the Beta: If you are enrolled in the beta, you should have received (or will shortly receive) an email with instructions regarding how to create your Team. You wil...

should we make a team?
:P
 
Abe
Can I create a 1-person Team?

Provided you meet the guideline above, of course (e.g. you’re developing an app or open-source project on your own, you run your own consultancy, etc.).
[insert forever alone pic]
 
6:40 PM
lol
:D
 
6:58 PM
This works, ul li:not(:nth-child(1)):before, but if I chain two of them, it doesn't. Why is that?
 
chain two of what
 

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