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5:03 PM
hey is the weight of @media(media queries) rule the same as normal css?
I mean if I was class after the @media it will override it?
 
Yes
 
@IGRACH yes
 
@media has no effect on the cascade whatsoever
 
k
 
All it does is hide/show rules where appropriate
 
5:03 PM
ty
 
@IGRACH well, order matters though
 
I just find out that testing
yes
its like normal ccs rule
so I shoud include @madia rules last in my css
@media*
 
THX
 
@IGRACH yea or in a separate stylesheet if you want to bifurcate your styles but will cost you an additional http req
 
5:06 PM
I'using sass @import
 
css has imports as well
@import url('media768.css');
but I prefer this way if the stylesheet is huge
 
Except you can't use @import after any style rules
 
I use sass like this
@import "bourbon/bourbon";
@import "default/defaults";
@import "jqueryui/jqueryui";
@import "current/current";

body {
background: #888;
}
so I shoud pass @media import at the end of file?
@import "bourbon/bourbon";
@import "default/defaults";
@import "jqueryui/jqueryui";
@import "current/current";

body {
background: #888;
}
 
does sass compile in a single sheet or it compiles each import in a separate file?
 
5:09 PM
sinlge
 
step one, stop using jqueryui
 
single
 
single
@rlemon why?
 
it's probably the only library I'd ever suggest giving up on
 
@IGRACH You can edit old comments by the way
 
5:09 PM
horribly coded, horrible to expand, horrible UI elements
 
compile them separately and use local css import feature for convenience ....
 
no problem I use gulp-minifiy-css
it removes unused css
 
I would use YUI before I used jQueryUI again
 
@rlemon looks bad, should I give a shot, whats the topic, whats preferred color scheme
 
don't get me started on jQuery mobile
ugh.
@Mr.Alien so, looks like your face eh?
#ohholdschoolburn
 
5:11 PM
@rlemon haha more or less yea
 
it's a stock image service, haven't decided on any gui / colour schemes
really like the ask ubuntu logo, and enjoy a softer green/blue
but orange/yellow is also very nice
 
hmm
I am developing a site currently, with black and yellow
darker yellow
 
:/
 
and if its images, black is always recommended as background
 
not gonna happen
:P
black backgrounds look horrible to me
dark theme, sure, but not solid black.
 
5:14 PM
not if you control it well...or may be I prefer black cuz I code more at night.. and nah nah not pitch black, say around 191919 or 242424 ..
 
111111
 
@rlemon #888 best color
 
thats too gray
 
I use it in all ps backgrounds
sry actualy #CCCCCC for folders background -)
 
5:20 PM
nah wait
 
@rlemon Bubble is ugly IMO
I hate that the font is different size (or looks to be)
 
also, on the topics of background colours, #272822 is clearly the best option
!!afk coffee
 
something like
 
I like #272727
my fav "black"
also drop the awful drop shadow, either make it subtle or dont make it at all
 
thats just a demo
if the site is flat, dropping the shadow is must
 
5:28 PM
even if it's not, drop shadow blends well with flat and non-flat, if you use it wisely
on flat, it needs to barely be there, on non-flat, it can be more effectively used, but even then nothing remotely close to that shadow.
 
I don't think shadow will suit well on flats
 
k111ky.com/contact < my contact form uses shadow
 
insets
 
still shadows, my point is, they can be used effectively if used wisely.
and gotta remember that anything graphical that makes things pretty, but not more "usable" per se should fade to background, not foreground. Something I often forget, but it's important.
 
second looks better jsfiddle.net/qhLs8aLd
and I see, jsfiddle increases the length of the uid
 
5:40 PM
jsfiddle.net/qhLs8aLd/1 < rgba's are better imo
 
@k111ky You mean literally barely, too :-P
those shadows are almost invisible
 
yup
 
yea, subtle
@TylerH thats the best thing imo
 
@Mr.Alien I'm not a huge fan :/
 
@Mr.Alien it depends
 
5:41 PM
but still, flats fun
 
flat can be fun but doesn't always look better
 
I like to mix the best of both skeuo and flat world
and I think the result is pretty nice
 
@rlemon start off with the site, you'll get an idea of how your logo should be
 
lol
I know how my logo should be, I just can't seem to get it there
 
@TylerH if not done well, am sure after few years, people will leave gradients, and glossy colors, only white and black, or other multi colors but flats
@rlemon seriously, don't waste much time, I often design logos in the middle of the project ;
 
5:43 PM
I'm going to base the UI on the logo
I am not a designer, I don't work in the traditional sense. I can't see the layout without a starting point
for me that is the logo, or something similar
 
so the best thing to do is use ask ubuntu for now and change to something similar later
 
better or worse with the outline?
 
ratio is off
the bubble is way too high/big
if you zoom it out a bit you'll see, the "pics" will be too tiny
 
better without outline
or make it smaller
 
honestly, that looks like that instrument we use to blow in the fire... I can't recollect the exact name
 
5:47 PM
jsfiddle.net/rlemon/xojsrewa this is when I 1:1 steal the ask ubuntu logo
 
much better
I think you shared this before
 
1
A: Difference between initial containing block and viewport

BoltClockNo, they're two very different things. The viewport generally refers to the area of a browser window in which a page is rendered on screen, while the initial containing block is the logical area within the page in which the root element and everything else is rendered. The initial containing blo...

tbh I don't know if this is correct
 
I was busy so didn't commented that time
 
But I should have been in bed about 20 minutes earlier because I need to be up early in the morning
 
5:48 PM
it is literally an exact copy with text changed
 
do one thing
use an orange dot
take out the triangle
 
see I liked the speech bubble because "Ahh!"
like someones yelling it
it works so well :P
 
hmm it goes well symbolically but if you don't want to copy 100% so get rid of the triangle and see
 
closes illustrator
 
5:57 PM
jsfiddle.net/rlemon/5jz7p29x/4 pics is slightly higher
 
I dont think that looks good at bottom
lemon shape goes well jsfiddle.net/qhLs8aLd/3
 
6:18 PM
@mikedidthis wanna feel useful / loved?
take that and turn it into a vector image for me so I can have nice scaling 32->512 versions
kthanxs
aww, where did mike go?
 
6:33 PM
@rlemon illustrator is his source of power; with it closed, the universe has lost its connection to mike
and all his past incarnations
 
@mikedidthis is back. I said nothing...
:looks around:
 
Wes can do it :)
 
booooooooo
:sobs:
and I thought we had something special ..
!!tell mikedidthis youtube quit playing games with my heart
 
@rlemon - i can make it fast :P
 
6:47 PM
I could make it, aside from the subtle text shadow effect
which i'm not even sure adds any value
 
Hello all
i'm trying to use google calendar api using JS
 
@rlemon dump shadows in logos
 
and i'm wondering in this case, which api key should i be using?
 
@easwee it was more of an inset effect
 
don't know if the font variant is the right one tough
 
6:52 PM
ok, i just got the answer
don't worry
 
@easwee Ubuntu font face
!!google ubuntu font
 
imgur.com/gallery/UnwCb this is hilarious
@easwee any reason the original is embedded into it?
data:image/jpeg;base64,/9j/4AAQSkZJRgABAgAAZABk ...
jsbin.com/hilof/1/edit and is there any way to make it cleaner when scaling an svg?
 
user652649
did @easwee made it already?
 
user652649
btw, i don't like the name @rlemon
 
6:57 PM
yea well, I already bought the domain a long ass time ago
 
@rlemon probably - I can optimize it later - dinner atm
 
had no idea what to put on it, so this is it now
 
user652649
is it like shutterstock or like imgur?
 
shutterstock
 
user652649
what about Oh My Pics
 
6:59 PM
stock image service, not an image hosting service
lol DOMAIN IS BOUGHT!
 
user652649
lol
 
I want it to get big and I want to start a thing where you have to yell AHHHHHHH but softly say pics
> hey, have you seen AAHHHHHHH!!!!!!!! pics yet? nice site.
> dude, why are you screaming at me?
 
user652649
ahah
 
user652649
i thought it was "Ahh!" (fart just came out) "Pics"
 
user652649
anyway search is 99% of the job
 
user652649
7:03 PM
if you can't get a decent search engine it will likely fail imho
 
user652649
shutterstock did a monumental job with tags and synonyms
 
well searching i'm going to try to do my best on. however my edge ( I hope ) will be automatic image tagging / detection
 
user652649
i think they use sphinx btw
 
I think I should be able to categorize / tag images automagically
you upload a picture of a bridge, I should know it is a bridge without you having to tag it
I think if I can get that right it will be successful
 
user652649
will you do that using google image search-- "search by image"?
 
7:05 PM
no, there are paid algo's you can buy.
also you can just train NN's for months and let them do the grunt work
but that is, ugh, tedious
I'm weighing the cost effectiveness of the image detection
 
user652649
btw image recognition and synonyms are two different things
 
yes, but synonyms are easier (imo)
also, these will be for free stock images.
nothing paid
so how is everyone doing of late?
 
@BoltClock it looks correct to me, but I'm not 100% sure either :P
 
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7:31 PM
CSS Guidelines: cssguidelin.es
 
I still don't get why some people love spaces instead of tabs
tabs were made for indenting, not spaces.
 
You can't indent half a tab
 
but to each their own I guess
 
What @BenjaminGruenbaum said.
 
Why would I want to indent half a tab?
 
7:35 PM
Plus I think tabs width can be rendered differently per editor. With spaces there is no argument.
Why not soft tab and make all the people happy.
 
yea, and with any decent editor you can change tab width
it's customizable .. spaces are not
 
That's kinda the issue.
Spaces are the same no matter what editor :D
 
I hate spaces. Too many times I've had to stare at code where indentation is done with spaces and 6 characters of them.
F that
never have I had a problem with tabs tho'
 
Editors don't care
 
bleh, I'll carry on with tabs.
 
7:39 PM
use soft tabs :D
 
user652649
@mikedidthis you can still make people sad using soft tabs with a tab-size different than yours
 
@WesleyCrushed but at least they are sad about the spaces not matching :D
 
user652649
they are sad for another reason you mean? xD
 
yeah.
"fuck this guy, he uses tabs"
"fuck this guy, he uses 2 spaces"
 
"fuck k111ky, he uses tabs that are as wide as 2 spaces"
 
user652649
7:43 PM
i prefer tabs, even if my tab size is different, it's easier to fix it than spaces
 
you sir, I love you
 
user652649
also, 99% of editors use a 4-spaces tab size
 
Yeah... I love Wes, but I don't love his style.
 
@WesleyCrushed Atom uses 2, so screw you
 
facebook is down
 
7:46 PM
who cares
 
user652649
@BenjaminGruenbaum NO WAY
 
user652649
happens at least once a day xD
 
So, facebook is down.
 
user652649
what's atom?
 
don't have a facebook
 
7:47 PM
@WesleyCrushed Only like the best editor ever; atom.io, and the fact that you don't know makes me look odd at you
 
@mikedidthis do you even socialize "socialize"
 
@Billy kinda. I have kids, so its limited.
 
he has kids, no?
dammet
 
However, its nice to have things to talk about as I haven't seen them on facebook.
 
user652649
@Billy socialize socialise
 
7:49 PM
basically I've concluded that getting married: you lose 50% of everything (including nerves) and having children: you lose the last 50%
 
@k111ky heck no, you lose nerves / patience / hair having kids.
Also not married, so I still have 50%.
 
haha
at least you still have your dignity
 
@WesleyCrushed That's what I thought it was, wasn't sure, googled it, and it corrects to socialize
although it does say "verb: socialise" in small but I didn't see that
 
user652649
@Billy xD it's the british version of socialize
 
@k111ky oh, that goes with kids too. Once your kids urinate, barf or make you poor, you have only memories and drink / drugs.
 
7:50 PM
Ah, well, we're here for you.
 
Thanks, I appreciate it.
 
The way things are heading for me is that I may soon be in the same boat. An alcoholic, potentially a drug addict, and instead of my RSS feed being my home page it'll be a forum for homegrown drug tutorials.
 
hi
isup.me/facebook.com wdf facebook's down lol
 
@BenBeri hi, please disregard what I said. Sidenote; we don't care about facebook.
 
7 mins ago, by Billy
So, facebook is down.
 
7:56 PM
 
Wow
 
user652649
@crypticツ FINISH HIM!
 
user652649
 
@WesleyCrushed Asshole. You had me refresh the page.
5
 
not only you... even after reading "ajax-loader.gif" in the status bar...
 
user652649
8:04 PM
xD
 
still not loading for me even after refresh. @WesleyCrushed you've failed us all.
 
same here ...
@crypticツ that's an image of a loading spinner ..
 
user652649
ahahha
 
@WesleyCrushed well played, well played.
 
Now go do that in every room on SO.
 
user652649
8:07 PM
that's your job now
 
<3 when someone who doesn't actually know what they are talking about tries to tell me I'm wrong and how to do my job
 
@rlemon It's called Mt. Stupid
 
it was a co-worker, rattled my feathers.
had to argue with him why I was correct
 
8:32 PM
position: sticky is interesting, its supported by default in firefox. Demo page
 
one is square other is clutter free rectangle
removed that encoded image (seems that illustrator embed hidden layers in svg by default) and edited pixel hinting - should look better
 
Is it just me or does Safari on Mac really suck?
 
!!s/Safari on.*/suck?/
 
@SecondRikudo why does .foo do 9 things depending suck? (source)
 
w00t?
 
8:37 PM
ugh.. for the 100th time
 
@SecondRikudo No matching message (are you sure we're in the right room?)
 
it looks in the DOM, you can't use it in rooms other than 17
 
Ah, right
only JS for that command
Then there should be a condition that says "I can't do this here!" or something if you're not on 17
A decent error. That's all I'm asking
 
you're asking too much :P
 
pull request
 
8:41 PM
is testing a svg scale by altering browser zoom legit?
 
I just change the tag height/width css rules
 
i wonder if it can be optimized further - will check online on some tips
 
saved, will look at home to see how I can tweak / optimize further
 
8:56 PM
gg
 
9:14 PM
 
@crypticツ lol
 
9:45 PM
Is it bad to have a slide-in animation that doesn't have an origin (like the edge of hte page)? Example
 
not entirely sure what you mean by "doesn't have an origin" but I can't see any problem with what you're doing there
 
As in its not sliding in from anywhere, its just appearing from the middle of the page.
 
10:01 PM
yeah sure lots of slide shows are like that but it depends on your case I guess
check the carousel on this site I did a while a go
is that the same as what you mean?
 
10:23 PM
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10:43 PM
obviously crap.
tips on how to become excellent?
 
Be excellent to one another
 
user652649
it's not bad
 
god I love bill and ted
 
user652649
margin between images is wider than margin between image and viewport border
 
user652649
just that
 
10:46 PM
yea it was just quickly done
 
user652649
so far looks ok
 
colours are okay?
 
user652649
i'm a fan of light colors
 
user652649
i'd use a white bg
 
I prefer dark themes, but I'm using scss so I can change them around easily
 
10:54 PM
I think it looks good. There should have been a delicious food warning though, my stomach is aching now.
 
11:12 PM
 
anyone here use Chosen?
 
@eazimmerman I used something similar, let me have a look
 
I had to upgrade from 0.9.12 to 1.1.0 and it didn't go smoothly. I was just curious if anyone knew any issues with it.
I'm not sure how popular it is
 
I ended up using Selectize because everything I read said Chosen and Select2 (similar plugins) were buggy
But haven't used chosen so can't really help you sorry
 
no worries, thanks
 
11:32 PM
so I got our style guide from the designers.. its weird, they have the typography setup crazy for example the have something called Page Title, and then H1 under it..
kind of annoys me, I feel like the page title style should be the H1
 
11:57 PM
@Loktar Do your designers know html?
 
they seem to a bit..
but they must not know much
its weird though because they are dictating styles at a few points as well
 
that's strange... veto powers?
 
yeah I should have them
 
:D you tell them
 
Im going through actually turning their guide into real html/css
so making a list of things to talk to them about
it just struck me as odd to see .page-title font-size 28px, and then .h1 font-size 22px
 

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