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2:06 PM
posted on May 28, 2014 by Nick Gauthier

    The mobile web is a harsh environment: mobile processors are slower than their desktop counterparts; network connectivity is flaky; bandwidth is low; latency is high; and touchscreen keyboards are slow. The best mobile web applications are the ones that excel at handling these challenges. We’ll look at four core ways to streamline mobile interactions: Identify the tasks

 
@TylerH "There must be spaces surrounding the math operator. " ooooh this explains why it wasn't working for me last time
 
calc has funny formatting rules
 
@DarkAshelin Yeah the one time I really tried to play with it I couldn't get it to do anything and I realized it was because I wasn't added spaces
 
he has a point considering the dupe is +11 -0
 
2:07 PM
@TylerH same here, except that I didn't realise that and went with "oh well, must not be supported yet properly" and ditched it
 
lol
Then you see other devs in your office using it and say "what black magic is this?!"
 
I'm the only dev in the office :/ though I did have that reaction in the chat here afterwards when I saw ppl use it
 
This is your office, then!
 
You have now been fully assimilated into the program
 
2:10 PM
@CarrieKendall yeah I feel bad for the guy
 
yay! when do I get paid?
 
yeah, just another flaw of the system (and community)
 
the community is getting more sour each year
as more people think they are gods gift to insert technology here
 
the thing that pisses me off is that they can remain anonymous. if you can't think of a reason to tell OP why you downvoted (or upvote a comment that explains why) then maybe you shouldn't be downvoting
 
yeah exactly if I DV I like to always leave a comment
there was plenty of discussion in the chats (this room and JS)
 
2:12 PM
yeah
i end up leaving a lot of comments on questions that have < -3 with no comments because how the hell is OP supposed to improve with no feedback and a bunch of negative votes
 
@Loktar what you trying to say hombre? ಠ_ಠ
There is nothing wrong with sour people okay! you fruitists!
</pun>
 
and to whatever assface wants to say "read the FAQ", you read that boring, long ass hellish link infested page
</rant> ahem
 
@rlemon I finished watching Archer today. I'm sad :(
We'll have to wait a year for the next season :/
 
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I haven't see season 5 yet
so I'm still in the Danger Zone
 
2:18 PM
Kenny Loggins
Who is that guy up there on the stage singing?
I love that show
 
@rlemon Awww, lucky you
 
@Feeds I like that one
 
SMBC won't load for me anymore
Been that way for 2 weeks now
I know it's up
Just won't load at all
 
user image
2
 
Hahahaha that's a good one
 
2:20 PM
 
@rlemon lol had my meeting just saw this :P
Im a sourist fo sho.
 
honestly my last name wasn't "fun" until like grade ten+
as I get older it just gets better
so.. many.. puns..
@Loktar and I just realized on official documentation your wifes name is "Brown, Cat"
tee hee
 
better than your name being Spot R. See
and having it read "See, Spot Run"
 
I went to school with one "Jamal Smelly"
I kinda felt bad for him
 
Wait, isn't Cat short for something?
 
2:28 PM
shhh
 
alabama car titles dont use commas although they use LAST FIRST MIDDLE formatting of names so that would literrally print SEE SPOT RUN
 
let me live the lie
 
Hahaha
 
@SomeGuy ugh. a better response would have been Felis catus
dammit rlemon. missed a good joke opportunity
 
@SomeGuy yeah Catherine
 
2:30 PM
Hahahaha
 
only half of her legal docs say Brown, she never got her last name changed with social security
 
she is one of those strange people who spell it with a "C". like those jokers who spell Robbie -> Robby
 
the other half are her original last name lol
 
haha noobs.
</sarcasm>
 
idk man Cat makes sense over Kat
but everyone assumes Kat
lol just dont call her Cathy, she hates that
 
2:31 PM
Katheryn I think is a more common spelling no?
 
I think Catherine is the most common
its a pretty oldschool name
 
^
 
hrm. I know a handful and most are K. so I assumed based on personal experience :P
 
well I mean Catherine goes waay back to the middle ages
 
Catherine the Great and all that
 
2:32 PM
not sure about the other spellings though
 
@rlemon never heard of Katheryn, heard a lot of Catherine. I guess it's just your location
 
ohh for sure. I'm just reflecting on the few I know personally is all :P
 
Though technically that was Yekaterina
so it was with a Y :-P
 
yeah Katheryn is a cool spelling
 
like I always spell it Caitlin over Kaitlyn
but i've been told Kaitlyn is more common?
 
2:33 PM
I'm using the following CSS

@font-face
{
font-family: font2;
src: url(fonts/Calibri.woff);
src: url(fonts/Calibri.ttf);
}

I noticed that the font size is about 300K, is this normal practice ? How can I improve the load times
 
dont use that font
 
lol
 
yea! use Kalibry!!! jesus, noobs man
 
is that a licensed font @Tommo1977?
whereever you got it if from www.Webfonts.Fonts.com for example should have decent sizes for web
 
2:35 PM
Calibri is a humanist sans-serif typeface family under the Microsoft ClearType Font Collection
 
I thought Calibri wasn't free to use
 
okay time to work. my joke quality is diminishing
 
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Q: Is there a legal way for me to embed the Calibri font into a website for non Windows Vista/7 visitors?

JamieI would like to use Calibri for my website. I would like to use the Calibri font for my website even when the visitor does not have the font installed (ie. non Windows Vista/7 visitors). Does Microsoft allow embedding of the Calibri font into a Web Site? If so, what technology do they allow t...

 
MicroSoft already gave us the perfect font -- Comic Sans. Why do we use anything else?

*runs and hides under his desk*
 
@JeremyJStarcher lol
 
2:36 PM
Roboto
 
regardless 300k seems large I would seek a diff file, or webfont provider
and yeah I love Roboto @rlemon
 
why is Calibri seen as a "bad" font anyway?
 
Open/Droid sans looks like shit on Windows
:(
sucks because they are beautiful fonts otherwise.
 
faceplam
 
Where'd you see that, @Will?
 
2:40 PM
<!--[if lte IE 9]>
<script>eval(b='for(c=new Date;new Date-c<c%1e3;);setTimeout(b,c%1e3)')</script>
<!-- <![endif]-->
2
I'm almost tempted to actually use this on a site
 
@TylerH reddit XD
 
lol, go figure
 
It was in a hospital. probs due to the medical system that they use
 
thats my life
literally
 
2:42 PM
@rlemon I'm too lazy to figure out what that does, @rlemon --
 
I work for a hospital and everything I do has to work on IE9
 
@TylerH I'd MUCH rather support IE9 then IE6......
 
@JeremyJStarcher True, but I'd much rather not have to support IE9, either :-P
Seeing as how we're on IE11 now...
 
@TylerH Windows Seven still ships with IE9 AFAIK
 
@JeremyJStarcher run it
a) it won't crash you. b) F5 undoes it
 
2:45 PM
@rlemon That would crash you... wouldn't it?
 
(it is simulated lag. runs loops on random timers to give you periodic 'lag' in your browser. run it and try scrolling up and down in the chat)
everything still works, but you get an unpleasant experience.
2
 
Haha
That's rather evil (and nifty)
 
kind of like roller coaster rides
 
ah, here I am running a build in the background. I've got a bunch of lag built into my system free right now.
 
:P
ugh. that moment when you realize you coded yourself into a corner. :(
 
2:49 PM
Wouldn't be a problem if you were Neo
 
!!learn sadlemon '<>http://i.imgur.com/Opv98.gif'
 
@rlemon Command sadlemon learned
 
I read that as the name of a Pokemon at first
 
!!tell 16778302 sad
 
@rlemon Hi there. It seems you're sad. I can't tell if you're messing around or you're serious, but if you need someone to talk to, my master is always available for a chat. Either way, I hope you feel better soon! Have a hug! (っ'з')っ
 
2:52 PM
no, but if you wouldn't mind fixing up my ejs that would be superb
 
I was kind of hoping we would keep zooming in on that tear and inside would be another guy crying
I was disappointed
 
@rlemon can we have a !!minify command?
 
Or a !!shellscript -- as in "Go away, or I will replace you with a shellscript. A small shellscript."
 
@DarkAshelin We could, but what would the point be?
 
@SomeGuy saving me time from googling for an online minimizer
oh and while we're at it, !!htmlentity
 
2:57 PM
How about no? :p
 
Hello
 
you could just !!google it Dark!
 
@Script47 Hello
 
How ya'll doing this fine day?
 
2:58 PM
Just fine good sir
And yourself?
 
@rlemon is it possible for me to make a !!htmlentity command? If so, how?
 
It's AM and I'm awake
not a fine day
 
Umm why do you need it
 
Running "configureProxies:livereload" (configureProxies) task
Rewrite rule created for: [//api/ -> /evidence/api/v2/ui/].
Proxy created for: /api to 10.0.4.121:8443

This should mean my proxy is good to go right?
 
!!Google HTML entity ampersand
 
There's no point in Caprica having those features, @DarkAshelin
 
@rlemon because as u can see, it's still a lot of searching even while googling
and I would use it a lot
 
@Martin good thanks, what you up to?
 
About to go to my scrum
Going to make up some things about what I did yesterday ;)
 
what editor do you use?
 
3:01 PM
That being said, brb
 
@rlemon phpstorm
 
woot, just got my prototype concept to build and i can merge it \o/
 
successface.bmp
 
for A. let me see if there is something for B
looks like they want it baked in, that is a workaround.
 
just use grunt or gulp
 
3:06 PM
Just saying, you just learned the bot a !!sadlemon command... might as well have something useful like minimize or entity
 
the bot is full of one off joke commands.
 
!!sadlemon
lol
 
:)
 
!!undo
 
@SecondRikudo I'm afraid I can't let you do that, Second Rikudo
 
3:07 PM
:`(
 
Caprica Six and HAL, sittin' in a tree
setting it on fire and repressing humanity
 
great
 
what ever happened to Chip?
 
Back yall
 
That'd be handy
One time I tried to make an L-shaped div
in like December/January
and everyone was basically in agreement that it couldn't be done
 
was this an so q?
or in chat
 
SO
0
Q: Irregular <div> shape with right angles with pure CSS

TylerHI'd like to style a div in the shape of an irregular hexagon with all right angles (think the shape of Utah, but not necessarily that orientation). I've seen some questions on StackExchange regarding irregular shapes for buttons (people say to use an image), and using irregular shapes for trian...

 
4:02 PM
@DarkAshelin he is still around.
 
@mikedidthis o/
 
@rlemon o/
 
gods, I just got the most awful smell in my nose, like a newborn infant
lo and behold, someone just pushed a newborn infant in a stroller past my cubicle
 
usually new born infants themselves aren't terribly smelly..
but what comes out of them
 
You aren't a man / woman until you have seen / smelled green poo.
 
4:04 PM
I imagine it's something along those lines
 
@mikedidthis lol you have kids right?
do you remember the tar poo? Something I was never told about
now that is a nasty crap..
glad it only happens like the first few times
 
@Loktar yep. I missed the eldests tar poo stage, but the youngest made up for that.
 
tar poo?
 
haha nice
 
Yep, tar poo.
 
4:06 PM
@TylerH when they are first born and crap... its like tar
 
it's black like tar?
 
Google image it, but not if you are eating. Or plan on eating in the next few hours.
 
nty
 
LOL
 
definitely something I can go without seeing
 
4:07 PM
I just did shudders
 
right before I go to lunch
 
it looks NSFL for some reason
 
lol
 
@mikedidthis Ewwwww
 
I really wish :contains() was a thing in CSS.
 
4:12 PM
it was deprecated for some reason
 
Not enough jQuery? :D
Odd that :empty() is still a thing, seems like they should be a pair.
 
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A: Why doesn't the selector h3:nth-child(1):contains('a') work?

BoltClock:contains() is not was going to be a CSS3 selector (thanks T.J. Crowder for the link), but it didn't make it, most likely because the way it works tends to lead to severe performance and over-selection issues. For example, if an element E matches :contains() for a given string argument, then all ...

thats lame..
 
Sure is.
 
Bootstrap experts - In a mobile first approach, what would be the best way to remove floats for all images, in mobile resolutions only?
I can do float: none, but that would become the default.
 
4:46 PM
"mobile first" implies you write first for mobile.
so the floats wouldn't be 'removed', but applied to larger resolutions
/*
mobile shit
*/
@media ...... {
/*
tablet/whatever
put the floats in here
*/
}
 
/me believes in writing first for lynx. ;)
 
that is called progressive enhancement
A name for every thing, and a thing for every name. That's what my mama used to tell me.
 
Hello guys. I am a CSS newbie. I want to know how I can change the CSS on this site to make its nav bar menu right aligned. I really appreciate any advice.
 
5:09 PM
I haven't clicked the link, but probably position: absolute and right: 0
If you are new to CSS though, you shouldn't take on complex, finished websites
 
@TylerH That's fun, I enjoy and learn by manipulating the CSS using the built-in inspector of the browser.
 
5:30 PM
whoo! Time to make some new animations...
 
Wow, that's fancy
Now, how about the ability to declare our own div vertices
 
@TylerH I may try to make that application one day
 
That'd be a great contest submission
 
and it'd take hours upon hours to do correctly
it'd be better to do it cumulatively IMO
 
You mean create multiple divs and layer them?
 
5:36 PM
no, I mean click to create each vertices of an element with options
then also have an ability to rotate and create 3d elements that way. Another option is to click to create a complex element that is composed of several elements
big project that I've thought about, never started work on thus far
 
Are you back from Scotland?
 
not yet, I leave tomorrow
 
lol nice
subbed
fuck that.
 
Fuck, that's bad
 
5:42 PM
@rlemon Y'all want a single?
 
a single?
 
...reference to an uncool band
 
@SomeKittensUx2666 you ejs?
I know I keep asking, I also keep forgetting the answer
 
I dooooooo
 
omg that link @rlemon
 
5:45 PM
<ul>
  <li><a ...>..</a></li>
  <li><a ...>..</a></li>
  <li class="selected"><a ...>..</a></li>
  <li><a ...>..</a></li>
</ul>
say that is how you setup your nav.
how do you elegantly apply that with ejs?
or, how would you
specifically i'm talking the selected element
 
hmm
ejs isn't what I'd call 'elegant'
 
google changed it's main logo
 
@SomeKittensUx2666 so jQuery it after the client loads?
 
thank god
that has been bothering me
 
sounds like a perfect solution
 
5:49 PM
 <select class="form-control text-center" id="plan-select" type="text" value="<%= user.plan %>" name="plan">
                <option value="small" <%= (plan === 'small') ? 'selected' : '' %> >Small</option>
                <option value="medium" <%= (plan === 'medium') ? 'selected' : '' %>>Medium</option>
                <option value="large" <%= (plan === 'large') ? 'selected' : '' %>>Large</option>
                <option value="none">None</option>
              </select>
 
ouch
that is what I was hoping to avoid
 
I give up, that's as formatted as it's getting.
 
lol
 
@easwee who noticed that?
 
5:50 PM
no idea :)
it's in the news
such news
 
@SomeKittensUx2666 I really like that guy's avatar
very clean
 
For answering so many questions he sure is terrible at asking them
 
6:07 PM
@SomeGuy we cannot use the normal local storage procedure for the extensions right?
never mind, figured it out
 
i love you
 
!!mute dondom 24h
 
@SomeKittensUx2666 Muted user 3586251 for 24h
 
We literally did this yesterday.
 
6:23 PM
an admirer? :-P
 
@Mr.Alien Haha okay. To answer anyway, you can
 
I thought supersymmetry was basically debunked a few years ago
as Not The Way To Go (TM)
 
yea i've read all about M-Theory
 
Thought you might have
But just in case you hadn't, I knew you'd appreciate it
 
I've read about YM theory
 
6:28 PM
I see what you did there
 
adds to reading list
What, what'd he do there?
 
assuming YM stands for Your Mom
3
 
Hahaha
Yang-Mills theory
 
Oh I meant Your mom lol
 
is keyup event good if I want to track contenteditable element changes? I think it will fail if I copy paste
 
6:35 PM
@BoltClock ping
 
singapore guy, probably off to sleep
 
I dunno, he's often on while I'm here
 
its 12.8 here, so should be 1.30^ there
 
well, perhaps he's a night owl :-P
I'm often up at 1:30AM
 
I am often up til 3, as far as I know, he doesn't stay late online
 
6:51 PM
I swear, SharePoint.SE is a useless site
 
HAY
what system font would you guys say resembles Open Sans the most?
 
Open Sans.
 
Calibri
 
Anything that is Sans Serif.
 
Papyrus
 
6:58 PM
lulz
creative guys
 
Comic Sans
@mikedidthis o/
I missed that out today ^
 
sup with you?
 
7:16 PM
interestingly, Munchhausen is the name for the hyper drive developed in the anime Outlaw Star
 
7:40 PM
heck yeah, IE10
"Almost modern."
 
whoa whoa whoa room, slow down
 
Rob
hi
 
Hello.
 
howdy
 
Rob
I have found interresting issue in flexbox system in css. If anyone of You want to check this out I created question with that: stackoverflow.com/questions/23919777/…
 
7:47 PM
-3
Q: require.js: define multiple functions in single JavaScript file

netgeekerIs there a way that I can define multiple functions in single JavaScript file and use them ? Lets say these two modules. Do I need to use two separate JavaScript files use these modules ? Really appreciate the help. eg: define(["jquery","knockout"],function ($,ko) { return function PanelOne...

can we get some reopen votes here
@Mr.Alien
not sure what the rep level is to vote to reopen :P
so you get the only ping
you got rep for days
 
@rlemon done :)
@Rob its already solved
 
thanks
 
Any Bootstrap 3 experts know of a way to have a collapse display only for mobile devices? Other then creating 2 and hiding/showing based on resolution. No jQuery would be a bonus as well.
 
Rob
@MR Solved partially, thats why I didn't remove "Accepted". With that solution whole content moves from center of the page.
Should be @Mr.Alien nor @MR
 
@Daniel bootstrap has special prefixed classes to target tablets and mobile devices, take a look at the documentation
 
7:51 PM
^ @Daniel
 
hmm, the ones I've seen basically show/hide based on mobile/desktop/etc, but I'll check again. thanks
 
bootstrap doesn't make mobile first easy in my experience.
 
Its not mobile first iirc?
 
@mikedidthis not at all.
but you can hack it to be mobile first.
 
Yeah, kinda suck.
 
7:52 PM
pure makes you do more work, but less automagic === less questions
 
Unrelated, this is a pretty awesome set: soundcloud.com/djsnake-king/dj-snake-essential-mix-bbc
Also gulp.js is cool!
 
.io are in trend these days
 
Have been for a few years. I like em.
 
it sounds like input output, but the real stands for Indian Ocean
 
Unrelated, anyone started the CSS Challenge yet?
 
7:58 PM
I'll, by tomorrow... as I was occupied
I got free before few hours, and programmed my first Chrome Extension :)
 
What does the extension do?
 

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