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9:48 AM
Not a fan of "exceptions are for exceptional circumstances" because such reasoning is circular
Also a rarity for some people is a commodity for others
and vice versa
I consider int.TryParse an optimization over int.Parse which is applicable when:
- you handle failure in the same function you are calling this function
- you don't care why the function fails (overflow? underflow? a number in a different base? not a number at all?)
 
Exceptions make sense for IO and user input.
I don't know rust well, do they have exceptions and panic?
Panic seems pretty nice, a way to express that shit hit the fan and the bug should be fixed and no try-catch bs
 
They have a Result<T, E> thing and panics
 
try
{
    ...
}
!no_panic
{
    :)
}
unless
The idea with result and compiler checking that returnvalues are not ignored is nice, I think
Not sure if that would lead to Result<T, TheWorld>
 
10:58 AM
@JohanLarsson dotnetfiddle.net/lyln7h trying to unify the Parse and TryParse functions
 
11:32 AM
Morning
I have a question that is more of a C# question, but anyhow...
is there a way to make
var myString = @"SELECT * FROM myTable
                 WHERE myName = 'test'"
not generate a string that prints
SELECT * FROM myTable
                 WHERE myName = 'test'
but instead
SELECT * FROM myTable
WHERE myName = 'test'
but still avoid using \n
 
no, you need to start the next line from the first column
but do you really care? it's a string that's being fed to a SQL database which won't care about whitespace
you could have a TrimAfterNewlines function if you really care
 
11:48 AM
mm I do care because I want to copy the string. but basically your correct
I'll use the StringBuilder instead
 
12:42 PM
It's a string literal, so it will be interned
And DBMS processing will be more noticeable than copying 20 more spaces
 
12:54 PM
Morning
 
1:12 PM
var myString = @"""SELECT * FROM myTable"
                  "WHERE myName = 'test'"""
something like that would be good
 
if you don't mind an allocation you can do:
var myString = "SELECT * FROM myTable\r\n" +
               "WHERE myName = 'test'";
 
yes, I just wanted to avoid the \n :)
 
G K
2:13 PM
Hi all,
I am working on a customised tree view in WPF where I have the following class structure as in this link - http://pastebin.com/nRMDj2BX

and here is my xaml - http://pastebin.com/e3jBmtm0
But the output is showing like this "MyProjectNameSpace.Menu"
Kindly let me know what is the issue with the binding. My requirement is some thing like binding a directory which contains folders - sub-folders and sub-folders in it.
 
@GK Pretty sure that happens when it can't find a matching DataTemplate
(read: not a binding problem)
 
G K
2:31 PM
Hmm that I got it, but how this design can be resolved to make it show.
 
Are you seeing any errors in the output window?
Trying adding to line 3:
<HierarchicalDataTemplate DataType="{x:Type local:Menu}" x:Key="Level1" ItemsSource="{Binding Menus}" ItemTemplate="{StaticResource Level2}">
^ added itemtemplate element
 
G K
Tried with that also, but no luck.
 
G K
2:48 PM
I have done some more little modifications to my program, now I can see level 1 names and a expand button for level 2, but level2 does not shows up any sub-menu items.
Posting updated xaml and code-behind once
 
@GK please use gist.github.com to share code which supports code highlight & multiple files
also.. I can't see how treeview is binding to source
you're defining resources inside treeview.resources -- which means while children will have the visibility, treeview itself won't
lastly you're defining a key on it.. when using Control.Resources approach, you want to use implicit styles not explicit unless you have some explicit code to do plumbing manually
 
G K
Binding to source is done in code-behind.
 
great.. that rules out any of my help then
 
G K
XAML - https://gist.github.com/Ganeshcse/e3493ee4e795b54e8322a23ad530f83d
Class structure - https://gist.github.com/Ganeshcse/d91b24fbb314721e0eaf79f4546ff923
Actual Code - https://gist.github.com/Ganeshcse/fde55256efc28595c59909913ede87c4
 
you can have multiple files in a single gist :)
 
G K
2:54 PM
oh okay, sorry will do from next time onwards.
 
and you need to name the files properly for it to apply syntax highlight
yea np.. like i said.. since you're using code behind i'm not going to look further anyway :)
 
G K
Did not understand your last statement.
 
oh also, if you revise code, use Edit button on gist rather than creating a new one
Most of us in here only deal with MVVM compliant code
code behind is a big no-no.. so you'd be lucky to get anybody to really dig into your code issues
 
G K
True, this is something I am exploring with the tree view. Once I got the solution then I move the code to MVVM.
 
i can quickly glance through xaml and tell you whats wrong.. but code behind requires a lot more concentration and i actually have to parse your code and then attempt to guess whats wrong
 
2:57 PM
@GK Why not just initially use mvvm?
 
G K
Problem is the tree view is showing up only 1 level and from 2nd level it is not showing its sub-menu items.
 
sadly we're all at our own jobs and we simple don't have the time or energy to spend on code behind as far as xaml related stuff is concerned
your data-template is wrong - i've already pointed out multiple things about it
there's 2 more.. but without proper xaml base code, i can't help any further
 
G K
Code-behind is just creating an observable-collection and binding to tree view itemsource, so not much code to concentrate there.
 
if it's just doing that, why even bother with code behind
 
Yeah... you're like .. 2 minutes away from mvvm :)
 
2:59 PM
we don't even bother with data context definition in there much less itemssource
 
G K
But I think its main issue with the XAML as @Maverik said.
 
-> coffee
 
G K
Hope u can able to look into this now much better.
 
brb and then i'll check
 
G K
Okay
@Maverik
I got the required output now
from this link
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Q: Binding a WPF TreeView to multiple Lists

C4p741nZI'd like to display the following structure in a WPF Treeview: public class Group{ public string Groupname; public IEnumerable<Group> Groups; public Ienumerable<User> Member; } My ViewModel looks like this: public class ViewModel{ public Group RootGroup; } I think the XAML C...

 
3:12 PM
good job :)
and indeed that was one of the other 2 issues i had spotted
you weren't defining the child template for parent
in terms of code, why are you doing an IList Children? an ObservableCollection is an IList too
 
G K
Hmm, I read it some other link
when we have multiple items to bind as childern then group them as a collection item
 
and even if it wasn't, you really shouldn't do: IList Children { get { return new ObservableCollection<T>() } } <-- that's going to rerender everything over an over
 
G K
Okay
and one small doubt
 
collections really should be single instance that can be .clear() .add() .remove() as you need but don't reallocate them over and over
 
G K
now my xaml contains 2 levels of hierarchical templates, what if I want to make it dynamic
updated xaml code is in the second list - gist.github.com/Ganeshcse/e3493ee4e795b54e8322a23ad530f83d
 
3:15 PM
btw, its really nice to see how you've quickly picked up gist system :)
good job
 
G K
:) Thanks and also I could able to see that this code
for any number of levels.
 
thing is, since you can use implicit styles, you do not need to nest them the way you're doing it
<HierarchicalDataTemplate DataType="{x:Type src:League}" ItemsSource="{Binding Path=Divisions}">
    <TextBlock Text="{Binding Path=Name}"/>
</HierarchicalDataTemplate>
thats the typical way of doing it
how to render children and whether there should be additional levels, that depends on what datatemplate is targeting the child
as simply scope another hierarchical data template for child data type in the same scope and it'll get magically picked up by wpf
and you can keep nesting like this for as long as you want
for a change msdn has good example of this ^
 
G K
Hmm, so what you mean is if I put for couple of my levels and the rest it takes care based on the data bind to the control. Am I right?
Sure, will have a look into this
 
implicit styles / datatemplate with proper scoping are the magic sauce that make wpf so great
once you get the hang of it, invest some time in triggers - triggers + data templates can let you do some very cool / complicated stuff without the need for any code-behind
also note that MSDN has the resources defined at Dockpanel.resources level
 
G K
Hmm, yes I need to use them as my screen has some other things to do, that menu item context-menu and lot of stuff moves around there. I will be more active in this group going forward to clear my doubts.
Yes seen that.
 
3:24 PM
until you have a clear idea of how scoping works in xaml, it'd be best to define implicit style on a parent of control you're targetting (i normally take the immediate parent of control which is generally a layout control)
yea we're generally a helpful bunch as long as you're willing to listen and can work your way through google :)
i think you can do both so you should get plenty of help here (in terms of pointing you in the right direction)
 
G K
Yes that is right point.
yes, I really need to understand the scoping here. One small question over the MSDN example.
 
sure shoot
 
G K
The code which I have written is called implicit style and the code in msdn is called explicit style correct?
 
umm the idea is: if it has an x:Key on it.. it is explicit style
otherwise it is implicit
the concept is: as soon as you put an x:Key on something, you've taken control of using that resource as you see fit - WPF will not do anything on its own with that until you hook it up
stuff without x:Key is in WPF's direct control - when it's trying to find best fit for a situation, it can see the implicit resources and it can decide what to apply where
 
G K
Okay but in the msdn example, how it could identify that Divisions should come under Leagues and Team under Divisions?
 
3:29 PM
Scoping: generally this just means things can see outside themselves only from top to bottom
ItemsSource
 
G K
MSDN Example - As we are not doing a direct hierarchy nor provided any x:Key ?
You mean the class hierarchy decides that Team comes under Leagues and Divisions under Team
 
ItemsSource says: hey this is what my children are supposed to be.. then WPF goes and finds out that it happens to be a Division child, then it tries to find a data template that targets Division child through its DataType and thats how it knows
if the data template targeting the type happens to be a hierarchical template itself, well the process just repeats itself
it renders the template's direct content & then looks at its children and then just starts looking at how to render the resulting children
this DataType + DataTemplate concept lets us do things from a single view that used to take multiple windows in WinForms
 
G K
Okay, this is a great explanation and I am clear with this now much better I started reading on my own.
 
we simply change the code's class and wpf automagically updates the view with proper data template
(well automagically depends on you raising INotifyPropertyChanged.PropertyChanged event or INotifyCollectionChanged.CollectionChanged event)
 
G K
Yes, got the point the usage of WPF compared with Win-Forms
 
3:34 PM
when you start out in xaml -- it feels very verbose.. because we tend to do a lot of child rendering manually
as you learn and practice, you'll slowly find out we can push a lot of manual tinkering to ViewModel code
and we only define a template for wpf to figure out how to render the combos
 
G K
Hmm
 
the recursive hierarchical data template is a good example of this
when you first encounter it, it feels like you need define how its children should look and then their children and so on
until you realise.. wait.. no.. wpf can compose things on its own if we tell it how to
one prime area where this is very helpful: when your collection has hybrid items
ObservableCollection<Food> that has a Fruit & Vegetable item in it
 
G K
Hmm
 
this scenario can be handled with a fair bit of triggers based plumbing if you had to do this yourself
 
What's the easiest way to set up column filtering on a DataGrid
 
3:38 PM
or you can simply bind ItemsSource to Food and define implicit data tempaltes.. 1 for Fruit and 1 for Vegetable and let WPF do the plumbing itself
sigh.. DataGrid is horrid >.<
 
G K
Hmm
 
but wpf uses the same mechanism for all filtering/ sorting/ grouping: CollectionViewSource
 
@Maverik what do you suggest using for tabled data?
 
we normally use ListView with GridView for our data
but in your case perhaps DataGrid would make sense if you're actually using its full functionality like group/filtering
since its column / header templates are a lot more powerful than listview
 
G K
Thanks for the support @Maverik, I have to leave my work place now. Gn8.
 
3:41 PM
DataGrid has a built in filtering option?
 
g'night GK & you're welcome
no as I said.. WPF uses CollectionViewSource for all that
 
G K
:)
 
the target view control just needs to be hooked up to this
 
And I need to build my own?
 
CVS is a builtin control
in fact all ItemsSource implicitly define a CVS internally
 
3:42 PM
Oh, it IS a control. I though it was just a class.
 
WPF's collection binding is: Collection -> CollectionViewSource.View -> Control.ItemsSource
so yea, you need to define one explicitly so you can get access to its SortDescription / Filter / GroupDescription stuff
then CVS.Source will take your collection and you'll bind ItemsSource to CVS itself (generally as a StaticResource)
 
Is google slow for anyone else?
 
dunno.. don't use google here :D
 
4:40 PM
I'm using DDG for 2.5 years already
 
yea i've been on it for years as well
being as chatty/spammy as I am in here.. i'm sure i can pin point it!
 
now I only need to get rid of my GMail account
that will be difficult because of all the accounts registered on that email
 
Mar 19 '13 at 12:03, by Maverik
left google months back when SO introduced me to DDG
so.. somewhere in late 2012 i'd guess - SO's blog will narrow the timeframe down but i'm not gonna go that far :)
 
the best part about DDG is that when someone tells me "I've been googling since 2 days" and I respond with a DDG link with relevant entry being the second one
 
:)
in my case i love its SO answers
 
4:44 PM
and they can't excuse themselves with "you have personalised history so you've seen it and I didn't"
 
since i search predominantly for code stuff, and it responds with the perfect SO answer as top entry everytime.. well that's all the reason i need to stick with DDG
and if there's ever a need to switch to google because I'm searching for something obscure i only have to bang it with !g :)
 
also a satisfaction that I'm able to find a thing with a supposedly inferior search engine and they didn't
 
my most frequent case of that is when i want to time restrict the search: !gy or map search with !gm or image search with !gi
heh
that personalized history thing is a sham anyway
googles been sending me shit i couldn't care less about and in some cases i absolutely hate like the "pro-life" campaigns.. i absolutely despise that shit.. and yet it lands in android's feeds
I only enjoy reading trump stuff for comic relief.. i have no other interest in his agendas and certainly not in right wing stuff
the only thing i've not yet turned off is location history.. i actually like it.. but i realise that its an amazing data source for google.. but without an alternative.. i'm not sure how to deal with that
i want the history for myself but only for myself unless somebody asks me what was I doing on an X day
 
might as well use offline history then
 
my android's life isn't long enough for it :)
and given the years I already have on cloud, i'd need a way to convert that :)
it all sounds like a project i'd need to embark on at some point but.. too little time and such
one of the things that i really hate about google's location history is its lack of mass data management ability
if i want to correct a wrong location that occurs constantly 100s of times, i have to edit every single day individually
rather than saying.. hey that's the wrong place you've tagged and it really was this instead.. for all your instances
i've even left them feedback twice on it.. but nada.. been years but seems its too difficult a request
(or of course they want to retain their purity of data because its important for them even if its off by a few houses)
 
5:26 PM
This is weird. I have a DataGrid that has a sub DataGrid in the RowDetails. When the sub datagrid loads its rows, it adds an empty row at the bottom.
 
thats the insert new row behavior isnt it?
theres an option to turn it off
 
Got it. I noticed that the main DataGrid didn't have it, so I looked and realized it was set to ReadOnly. I set the sub one to ReadOnly as well and the row went away.
 
 
1 hour later…
6:58 PM
WpfFarmer.GenerateTumbleweeds(5);
* * * * *
 
been a while! the farmers been busy i guess :)
 
Yeah, he's got lots of land to tend to ;)
 
of course :)
 
Been up to my eyeballs in T-SQL and MVC
Are you still doing JS and Vue.js?
 
just give up and embrace raw JS world of node :)
well i've yet to write something concrete.. but yea lots of vue.js training
unlike moving from one lib to another in .net -- this is like starting from scratch in your programming career
 
7:05 PM
"If once you start down the dark path (Node!), forever will it dominate your destiny, consume you it will" in my best Yoda voice
 
well while i still don't like raw JS... nodejs.. well its a very solid platform from what i can see
 
It is. Hear good things about it
 
and big massive huge ecosystem.. its beautiful insert waving hand gesture here
 
It's an entirely different way to handle server side
 
not really
i find it more like instead of coding in c#, i'm coding in JS.. but thats about it
 
7:07 PM
I'm speaking from the perspective of one who has never done node
 
ES2015 has brought JS forward a lot..
I'm having trouble mixing typescript right now, but if i manage to crack it.. JS world would be much easier to tame
 
Would you ever learn TypeScript?
 
already have.. its not really a new language as such
 
You answered it before I asked!
 
typescript is more like annotating JS with stuff than a new language to learn
 
7:08 PM
Angular uses it heavily
I can handle that
 
angular 2*
 
Just don't want to learn something and a few years later, it's by the wayside
 
definitelytyped.org have done a lot of heavy lifting to let you use TS with popular JS stuff
 
Yeah, Angular 2+ is all about TS
 
well you're not investing enough time into TS itself to cause worry if it gets ditched a few years down the line
your end result is still JS.. anybody can pick it up and move to next flavour of annotations
 
7:10 PM
Hmm, they've got TS version of jQuery?
 
very likely yes
 
Interesting
 
lol they have it on frontpage as example :)
/// <reference path="jquery/jquery.d.ts" />
^ add that in your .ts to get jquery typed intellisense :)
 
Wow. Nice
 
you can rename your .js to .ts and get away with that generally
 
for most part its that simple
 
Tons of other goodies
 
yup
but since i'm using npm .. i normally use @types namespace and let it deal with sources :)
13682 packages found for "@types" ^
 
I've seen all these in VS... npm, Bower, Gulp.
 
hmm the npm search seems to have misunderstood me
@xxx means look under this namespace.. it's ignoring @ from search
but npm -i @types/jquery would basically give you the same jquery type that was being referenced up there via package management
though if you take npm route.. prefer yarn over npm.. (paket over nuget kinda thing)
oh and man webpack 2 is something amazing :)
once you're past 10 different include files, its time you start learning webpack basics and let it deal with complexity
(gulp can do similar stuff via its tasks but i find webpack easier solution)
 
7:20 PM
Right now we're just throwing the stuff into BundleConfig.cs as bundles
 
the webpack ecosystem is also pretty well established
yea the .net world :) but if you're ever in the nodejs world :)
 
Does webpack work with MVC?
Is it needed there?
 
webpack doesn't really care about how you're doing things.. its plugin based
 
Ahh
 
if there's a plugin that can understand your file, webpack will happily churn it away
in itself its just a blind bundler & linker
 
7:21 PM
@JohanLarsson Also makes me wonder why there's no TryOpenFile function. I mean, if you think about it, there's no difference between int.Parse and OpenFile. Both can fail
 
@milleniumbug write an extension on string that returns an IntPtr :)
 
@milleniumbug there is one difference: there is no way to check that a file exists
sure you can check File.Exists but some other process can delete it before you read on the next line
 
if it ain't IntPtr.Zero, you're good to go and you're not going to get into race issues because Handle will lock the file for the purpose :)
 
right, that's what he's saying in the article, but that doesn't influence this comparison
 
as usual lippert writes a nice article.. though this one felt like a slight rant :) (nothing wrong with that and i find it healthy even)
well .net throws the exception.. win32 doesn't
 
7:24 PM
one could have a hypothetical IsValidIntegerString function and use it like if(IsValidIntegerString(s) { int a = int.Parse(s); /* no exception */ } and it would be valid, as opposed to if(File.Exists(path) { var file = OpenRead(path); }
 
but TryOpen could be a nice api
 
i dunno.. i think the whole Try idea reeks
 
int.Parse wraps int.TryParse iirc
 
8 hours ago, by milleniumbug
@JohanLarsson https://dotnetfiddle.net/lyln7h trying to unify the Parse and TryParse functions
 
it implies there's a chance to fail.. i much prefer the Result<Action<TSuccess>, Action<TFailure>> approach
 
exceptions really slow you down if you're running into them frequently enough
i had an api that was crawling because there was a bit of code that was looping through stuff with try -> Parse -> Exception: continue loop logic
 
maybe I'm the only one who does not hate the try idea
 
80% of time was spent in that parse method alone.. simply switching to try mode fixed the bottleneck
 
not often anyone says anything nice about it
 
nah, it's just an API annoyance
 
7:28 PM
I don't love it but I don't mind it
 
you have twice as many methods
 
c#7 and var out will make it nicer
 
well i don't know about others, but for me its the exact thing that Eric says: Vexing exceptions
 
Something() and SomethingAsync() also feel annoying, but you can't easily write one in terms of another, so I'm mostly fine with it
 
yea thats unfortunate reality of backward compatibility.. this at least i can understand
but Parse: TryParse - that makes no sense
parsing failures are part of design logic.. you're not supposed to throw
 
7:31 PM
@JohanLarsson I like this link you've sent me joeduffyblog.com/2016/02/07/the-error-model
it comprehensively describes various error handling strategies
 
yeah it is awesome
post it as a formatted link and I'll star it for the room
In six months you will be top 1% of c#ers.
 
The Error Model - lessons from Midori error handling
2
 
duffy has a nice talk about perf, lemme find it
 
milleniumbug I finally got through that fiddle.. it managed to timeout for some reason.. that's kinda the thing i was talking about
but the proper implementation would be the Railway Pattern
Result Parse<T>(T input) where Result is the Maybe monad :) with either Some T or None as its valid value :)
and of course then we can use it with c# 7 to get into nice pattern matched railway pattern programming
 
7:42 PM
feels pro by throwing the word monad around
 
TIL it's called "railway pattern" in F# ecosystem
 
@Maverik How does C# 7 help there?
 
its not f# specific.. but that page does make it very nice in explanation
 
it doesn't add "real" pattern matching anywhere...
 
Hmm i thought that's what they were doing?
 
7:43 PM
they dropped everything except type test matches, and then, they only work in limited scenarios
 
O.O
 
pretty much dropped everything except the portion of pattern matching that's usually a sign of a bad design 😋
 
well i could make the thing work based off type test
 
its not exhaustive, though
 
something is better than nothing right :) otherwise we can point them in f# direction ;)
 
7:58 PM
railways are a cute analogy
also less scary than seeing terms like "Yoneda lemma", "Kleisli composition" and others
 
where did you find words like that? rightfold?
 
yes, in lounge
also dozens of links to haskell docs
 
do you know haskell?
 
Has anyone called sprocs from EF in C#?
It's throwing this exception: When executing a command, parameters must be exclusively database parameters or values.
Been searching up and down to figure out what's causing it
 
@JohanLarsson a bit, still not enough to feel comfortable when writing a program
 
8:13 PM
and now you learned c# in a couple of weeks
 
TIL "sproc" is a shortcut for "stored procedure"
 
Got it.... need to set the value on the field in an object initializer block { }...
new SqlParameter("RowLimit", SqlDbType.Int)
{
	Value = 500
},
 
interesting
how was it previously set?
 
Strangely enough, it was like this:
new SqlParameter("RowLimit", SqlDbType.Int).Value = 500
Why would that make a diff?
 
8:19 PM
post contructor operation?
no idea. weird
 
new SqlParameter("RowLimit", SqlDbType.Int).Value = 500 evaluates to .Value, not SqlParameter
and I'm guessing the interface accepted it because it's also an object
 
That must be it, but I've seen examples of it out there
It took trial and error to find that answer. Sheesh!
 
8:35 PM
@milleniumbug that's a nice website
 
8:56 PM
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so kewl
 
9:24 PM
That's a little over 2.5 billion calculations per second per GPU. I didn't realize they were that fast now.
 
:)
 
@Mav go home
 
I wish I could.
 
yea i was just thinking.. damn it its 9:34pm
catch you guys tomorrow :) g'night all
@LynnCrumbling just upgraded to ipv6 in office and skype is broken now... while my phone can still pick up skype messages probably better to ping me stuff on slack DM
^ also valid for anybody else who is on my skype
 
Night, Maverik
 
9:36 PM
@Maverik ACK
 
nod *poof
 
See ya, Maverik
 
 
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10:38 PM
I am trying to set a GridView column to collapsed by binding its Visibility to a property in the codebehind. There's no errors, I can stop on a breakpoint and see that the value is "Collapsed", but the column is still showing up.
 
10:52 PM
is INPC implemented properly?
show some binding code
a nice trick is to purposefully change the name of the property you are binding against to something incorrect
that will force an error to show up if the binding is bad, and if you see no error at all it's because the binding has no data context
 
<DataGridTemplateColumn Visibility="{Binding DeleteVisibility}" Header="Delete" IsReadOnly="True">
 
yeah so change DeleteVisiblity to testesttestestest
then look for an error in the output
 
11:08 PM
Which value is collapsed: DataGridTemplateColumn or DeleteVisibility or both?
 
11:22 PM
i want to do some loading and show a mat design dialog while the loading is occurring
            Task.Run(() => LoadDatabase()).ContinueWith(task =>
            {
                Application.Current.Dispatcher.Invoke(() =>
                {
                    DialogHost.CloseDialogCommand.Execute(null, null);
                });
            });

            var databaseLoaderControl = new DatabaseLoaderControl() {DataContext = this};

            await DialogHost.Show(databaseLoaderControl, "RootDialog");
is this a good pattern?
private async Task LoadDatabase()
 
Same thing I do, but that's not saying much :P
 

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