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8:03 PM
Keep it off the resume.
 
Was this some kind of quick interview ? ._.
 
Not intentionally, but it'll help me sell you to my boss.
 
Before I get excited, what is the average value of a junior there ? ._.
 
I started at $50,000/year + quarterly bonuses and benefits.
 
What the fuck ?
 
8:08 PM
which is more than enough to rent an apartment, own a car, and be comfortable in my area.
 
Junior ?
 
Right.
 
What the flying fuck ?
 
Conditions for my bonus? "Be awesome."
 
I can't grow a beard so I can't be thaaaat awesome :(
 
8:09 PM
I can actually see a world where I don't get that bonus.
 
You have blue eyes and can grow a beard, you're almost a viking, you can't be more awesome than that...
 
We'd probably have to introduce some metrics for bonuses if there's more than one of us. I am kinda carving out the position as I go and improving profitability while I do it.
Half Norwegian. The other half? German.
You know what that makes me? Someone who's family is from the Midwest.
 
I'm half russian and half native brazilian so I can pretty much drink a lot without passing out and still have deep thoughts about naked women :P
Just so you know, an average Senior ( almost supervisor ) gets about 3.5k USD monthly
A supervisor gets about 4.9k USD monthly
 
@AndréSilva i don't know many devs with 4 years uni degree that start less than 50k out of college
 
Manager get about 6.4k USD here
I don't have a graduation because I've been working since I was in the second year of high school*
 
8:13 PM
Andre is beginning to learn the difference between developing nation and developed nation :p
 
Different countries have completely different salary issues
but cost of living is also very different
 
right, right.
 
Yeah, that is true, a 58m² apartment in a nice place with really close malls and supermarkets ( about 1km near ) costs an average of 170k USD
 
I've been to Brazil... the standard of living is lower (not 10 times lower, but lower) than here. Everyone seems to have a roommate or lives with their family until they have their own family...
 
but it sounds like andre is struggling, so i think putting it into perspective isn't bad
 
8:15 PM
thing is - in south america, $1500 usd / month is probably a relatively better wage than 50k where I live
@AndréSilva In Seattle, you're talking at least 4x that
 
With 1500$ USD you can live on your own but don't expect having a new car or having fancy cellphone or a nice videogame
 
how so, look at the costs of living! 58m^2
 
Cars that aren't go carts with fiber glass shells don't exist.
 
= 170k... wut
 
right?
 
8:16 PM
my parents is the same and thats like 1.2k sq ft
 
Well, there are some fridges with wheels here that costs about 4k USD
 
we call those coolers here, and we stock them full of brews before going to baseball games.
;)
 
My father-in-law is a plastic surgeon. His primary condo is about the size of mine. He owns a few properties, so it's kind of hard to judge, but... ew.
 
My car is a 1.0 Chevrolet Celta ( one of the cheapiest cars to buy it new ) and I payed 12.483USD
 
wow
you could buy a fleet of them with your salary
 
8:18 PM
My condo is about 94m^2 and it cost about 130k. You've seen where I live, Andre.
 
Photos from the outside I guess
 
link a map.google.com of the area
 
And some pictures of a duck on top of your notebook
Let me get it here
 
^ lol
but he can afford a duck on top of his notebook... haha
 
8:19 PM
The yellowish condo with the big gate
 
nice lookin place, bill
so if i moved to brazil, would i be rich then?
 
170k to look at bad graffiti? No thanks.
 
It seems so cozy
@Billdr You can't run away from bad graffiti made by crackheads
 
Sure I can.
I move to Edina Minnesota :p
 
@NETscape Rich would be if you get about 5kUSD, you would be a lot richer
 
8:21 PM
well, around here, there's pretty much nothing where you'd want to live you can buy for less than 250k
 
Where you at, Reed?
 
WA State
Bellingham, WA ;)
 
On the coast?
 
yeah
it's a coastal town
 
not even in a suburb?
 
8:22 PM
near the canadian border
 
You can get a lot cheaper place to live for a bigger place, but you'd need to live kind of far from the city
 
nope - it's a separate small town
 
i mean, can't find something nice for < 250k
 
not really
realistically, something I'd call "nice" if you want a house, around here, is >350k
 
Ooh, how much does it cost to own one of the little islands out there?
 
8:23 PM
If knowledge was a currency, Reed could buy the world. Twice.
 
250k in a suburb around here will get you a 4 bedroom house, huge yard, lots of space, probably a finished basement, and great neighborhood, if you live 15 miles from the inner city.
 
@Billdr quite a bit ;)
 
It snows in Washington. Condo with underground parking plz.
wait... do you have underground parking out there?
 
You guys get to feel real cold...
 
Faults and oceans and whatnot?
 
8:24 PM
@Billdr Doesn't snow much - but to get condo with underground parking is a LOT more than that - over $500k (there aren't many of them)
 
parking underground here costs $130 a month. i opted out.
 
I pay like $120 a year/each in property taxes on my spots.
I own two car-shaped plots of land.
 
When it is freezing cold ( like old people and homeless dying ) it is about 5C
 
That is because you guys don't use insulation for some unfathomable reason.
 
@Billdr For example, this is a condo with underground parking here: kw.com/homes-for-sale/98225/WA/Bellingham-/1310--10th-Street/…
good neighborhood
 
8:25 PM
No one can tell me why.
 
Because we don't prepare for nothing. We think about today and make stuff work for today.
If we know something terrible will happen, we will wait for it to happen instead of preventing
 
$500k and you can see the ocean from your porch? Seems reasonable.
I'd probably offer 450.
 
reed, you could get toasted, fall off your porch, roll down the hill, and drown in the ocean... of course that'll cost a penny!
 
@NETscape hehehe
I could from my office
my house is in the hills
 
I think that's the first reasonable Ogden ave I've ever seen, Netscape.
 
8:28 PM
by my office is on the water (for the next couple of weeks, then I'm moving downtown)
 
sounds like a great place to get some biking in
 
@NETscape as long as you don't mind a lot of hills, it's great
 
Damnit @ReedCopsey Such a nice view from the place you linked
 
there is also ogden on the other side of the river thats not reasonable haha
i happen to drive through the "unreasonable" part to/from work
 
I'd like to retire in northern washington. There's skiing up there....not a lot of people. Seems nice.
 
8:29 PM
@AndréSilva yeah - it's nice - that's why it's $500k though
for a condo
 
take a streetview roll down fond du lac ave
where 30 means 45-60mph and yellow means green and red means yellow.
 
Damn, I can't even imagine having 500kUSD
 
could be worse - where my father lives, it's almost impossible to buy anything livable for <1m :S
 
I got lost in Milwakee once, going to a concert as a kid. Bunch of us in the car, probably not entirely sober.
 
I can make you all cringe by telling some electronics price that we have it in Brazil
 
8:30 PM
I thought it was the scariest place I'd ever see.
 
The Rave? Summerfest?
could be worse... yea... to us.
 
I paid 960USD for my iPhone 5 :(
 
I don't really remember. See the aformentioned not-entirely sober.
 
PS4 costs 1783USD here in Brazil
 
8:31 PM
I saw the Deftones at The Rave in 98 or so... but I feel like we were trying to go to someplace outside of Milwakee.
 
@AndréSilva What do you pay for the service, though?
 
iPad costs about 1kUSD here
 
that's quite an interesting part of the city haha.
 
@ReedCopsey No, just the device
 
@AndréSilva yeah, but I'm sure your service is far lower than here
 
8:32 PM
I don't think that was the time. We got off at a bad exit or something.
 
I pay about 100$ for the phone services ( 3g, calling and stuff )
 
yeah, easy to take a wrong turn haha
 
ahh, okay - that's expensive there too (compared to most of the world)
 
a month andre?
 
I pay 100$ to use 500mb of 3G ( no 4g ) and 100 minutes to call
Monthly, yeah
 
8:32 PM
WOW
/exit
 
Electronics here is a total suicide
 
Yeah, the place was supposed to be out in Oconomowoc, I think.
 
i pay like $65 for 3GB of 4G service and unlimited text/calling
 
@Billdr Isn't that one of the ships in Matrix series ?
 
haha, wow, you guys were way off.
 
8:33 PM
Nobucodonosor, I got mistaken, sorry
 
Is Camp Randal out there?
 
that's Madison
 
@NETscape Well, at least texting is unlimited, but you know.. WhatsApp
 
Hmm.
 
~1hr drive
from here
 
8:34 PM
Oil here isn't expensive.. At least I think
 
what's petrol cost per litre?
 
I put 50L of gasoline today in my car and I payed 56$
 
i delivered beer all over milwaukee + surrounding areas so i'm pretty comfortable anywhere. I delivered to a store that had 5 dudes smoking weed inside and kids running rampant inside and out.
 
1,29$/L of Gasoline
 
almost hit one of the kids with the blade of my dolley. wouldn't been a tragic ending to my life
 
8:36 PM
I don't think that is expensive
 
still expensive
 
@AndréSilva That's higher than here, but much lower than europe/canada
US is cheap for petrol though
 
Well, he have Petrobras. One of the richest oil companies in the world.
 
it's $3.87 for 3.78L here
 
A great portion of Cosan/Shell oil come from Brazil
Wait, what ? Really ? That is about 1$ a litter
 
8:37 PM
@AndréSilva Yeah - we're looking at doign a huge consulting job for/with Petrobras :D
 
sounds like brazil is doing something wrong, that's just me though
 
@AndréSilva Yeah - US is one of the cheapest places for fuel in the world. Our taxes are quite low for that
 
@ReedCopsey Really ? When I worked for Deloitte, we used to do Transfer Pricing for them
 
holy hell, google streetview edited out my childhood home.
 
doesn't beat places like Yemen though -_-
 
8:38 PM
@AndréSilva btw - feel free to send me your CV, too
 
Well, US has to have cheap oil.. you know.. for all that killing and stuff.
Even with killing Brazil has its problems.. We kill ourselves only haha
But hey, I'm getting excited with this o.o
I'll totally update my resume and I might even join LinkedIn
 
with everything i see on liveleak about brazil, even your hometown andre, i'd never live there lol
reed should just hire WPF+C# chat
 
holy shit, it's not even that... it's just gone.
 
build an army
o_0
 
@Billdr Wait, what ?
 
8:41 PM
I should probably keep in closer touch with my mom. :0
 
Imagine all the wpf room working in the same place, side by side...
That would be really cool
 
@NETscape lol
couldn't afford it ;)
 
The spot where my house should be is missing. The man-made pond that was there? that's filled in. The wetlands that surrounded my house? converted to farmland.
 
But if you put C# room in the same room, they would probably say something disrespectful and there would be a lot of people not talking to each other and from time to time someone would ask something nonsense and everyone would just laugh and ignore
Well, I'm getting my notebook to another floor, so I'll be right back.
 
pay me in rep Reed, I'll only need cash if you require me to babysit your youngins
 
8:44 PM
hehehe
@NETscape Done - I'll bounty you once per day ?
 
yeah, just ask questions like "How old is NETscape?"
put up a bounty, i'll answer it and get the bounty
 
oh shit... found it. The pond's still there. It's just covered in algae so thick it looks like grass :/
I lived there for four years. Longest time I spent in any one place. Anyway, that place ran about 50k when my mom bought it. I don't know what it'd be worth now/who owns it.
 
do you know the address?
 
looking it up actually.
 
$195 across the street, for sale ;)
 
8:53 PM
reed, how is var an implicit type, but it'll catch errors during compile time as if its explicitly typed?
whoops
 
why whoops?
var is implicitly typed based on the initializer expression
so the type is "baked in" at the line where it's initialized, which means from then on, it's defined as a specific type
 
the 79k house up the road was a way nicer place. The 195 must have a ton of land.
 
because i switched implicit and explicit originally
ahh gotcha
also, up for discussion. how do you write a resume to include everything you've done for a company when that includes wayyy more than there is room for
aka writing the entire application myself while maintaining all old products
 
Reed can probably speak closer to this, but I don't want your life story, I want broad strokes.
I'll get the details I care about at interview time.
 
I'd say try to keep your resume short and sweet, list the things most relevant for the job
 
9:03 PM
That said, a link to github/so profile/whatever would be nice.
(and that's what a cover letter is for.)
 
Also a pic is helpful ime, helps connecting the paper to the person.
 
I disagree. I don't want to be accused of being ageist/racist/whatever.
 
^
 
Everyone should be Sam Smith generic carbon based life form until they show up for an interview.
 
but after the interview it is helpful ime
 
9:05 PM
Ah, got you.
 
Well I don't have github or any other projects because all my free time is spent working unless i have obligations like sports and things to do around the house
 
maybe different in the us idk
 
My SO profile helped me get my job.
Both of my jobs, actually.
Demonstrating an ability to articulate a question clearly is important. Also, it shows how you write in a slightly less structured context.
 
don't point them to chat :)
 
yeah i guess the place for content is more in the cover letter
 
9:07 PM
Do not point them to chat.
 
duh haha
don't even know why i'd give them SO, not hard to go into the chat anyways
 
Are you seriously interested in switching to security, NETscape?
 
if feel like if someone gave me their SO, i'd check chat first.
 
not many know about chat
 
Be prolific. B.E. prolific.
 
9:08 PM
it is pretty obscure compared to SO main
 
If you spam, they'll never find the incriminating evidence.
 
they could count number of messages during office hours and divide it by the average time to type a char :)
 
Shit.
Well, they'd have to know my WPM for that.
Still though... Yikes.
 
they could assume 80 cos frequent chatter
mine is 40 in English & Swedish
hopefully higher in C#
 
Really?
 
9:11 PM
yeah I look at the keyboard
type like a manager
 
Ok, I'm back
 
80wpm for me...good guess.
wb andre.
 
and i'm interested, yes. i thought everyone would be interested in security
i did my first crytopquip when i was like 12 haha, did a few more, then didn't do anything related to "security" until briefly learning some concepts in uni
 
yeah
i didn't know the term or even the strategy of solving them when i was solving them.
 
9:26 PM
we don't do a lot of this, but it looks fun.
I already tried a Cesar cipher, but that doesn't work.
 
no idea how i even solved my first few. brain worked in miraculous ways.
 
I'm writing a spreadsheet now.
 
9:50 PM
82wpm
81 my first shot. bad posture.
89wpm sitting up.
 
I have determined that this method is impractical. I suddenly like Andre's brute force attack, but I wonder how long it'd take to create a database of every possible substitution matched alphabet.
 
i think its more of a guessing game at first
i think thats how i approached it
TWO DOCTORS ARE APPARENTLY DOING THAT GUY'S SURGERY TOGETHER. NOW THAT'S REAL CO-OPERATION.
 
how did you nail it so quickly?
 
:(
 
10:00 PM
pretty impressive
 
I don't think googling the answer is in the spirit of the game.
 
oh i wasn't trying to solve it, sorry
i figured you were done
 
Naw, spent all the time formatting my spreadsheet to write out my guesses for me.
 
Damn operator declaration
Is this any sort of decent code or am I using it wrongly ?
    public class Formato
    {
        public static explicit operator FormatoDIPJ(Formato Seila)
        {
            //I still have to write code in here
            return FormatoDIPJ.Alfanumerico;
        }
    }

    public enum FormatoDIPJ
    {
        Alfanumerico = 0,
        Numerico = 1,
        Branco = 2,
        CNPJ = 3,
        EOL = 4,
        DATA = 5
    }
 
10:21 PM
What are you doing?
I, in general, never use implicit or explicit operators - I find them to be pretty nasty
 
I just followed a tutorial actually
One sec
Ok, I read from a datatable that it is imported from an Excel Sheet
And there it contains a column with some formats ( they are just like flags )
So when I'm filling my collection, I want to put them formatted, with the correct types
So since there isn't a pattern for the formats, I decided to create my type so it will be easy to manipulate in the future
Just to make the object orientation work so I don't have to put unnecessary code in some places
 
@Billdr got it
 
I do not yet. Learning about letter frequencies now.
wife's home, so I won't get to it. What was the answer?
 
haha oops i skipped an entire word
"Exciting new drama show featuring insects who are pillages: "Six feet plunder."
except I missed the entire PZEMQMFGR word
which looks to be....
malicious
 
H e
I
K
L w w
M
N t
O
P
Q
R
S
T n
 
10:36 PM
malicious insects
 
Was so close.
 
A
B D
C Z
D
E
F O
G U
H E
I
J
K
L W
M I
N X
O
P M
Q C
R S
S T
V F
U H
W G
X
Y R
Z A
 
N was used 10 times... how is that x?
M wsa 10 times, N was 3. I typoed it.
Alright, well that's why I don't do that I guess. Time to hit the old.... laters.
 
like I said, I know no formal concept or strategy, I pieced it together using the english language haha
 
I bet you're good at wheel of fortune.
laters
 
10:38 PM
eh, i'm not into much pop culture
adios
 
11:05 PM
Erm I think I have a problem :(
I'm casting to a type and it is not calling my explicit type convertion
 
11:24 PM
did you make sure it's public?
 
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