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3:00 PM
love that troll :p
 
@rlemon I would totally play super mario brothers for snes if I weren't at work
Or zelda for that matter
 
HUZZAH! I managed to solve that fucking ridiculous error, only to find an even more obscure error!
Oh happy day
 
anyone good with php's simplexml and xpath in here that would help me out a little?
 
@GNi33 I know xpath, but don't start asking me about php
 
3:14 PM
well, all i gotta do is getting some xml - tags
 
This really doesn't make any fucking sense. It threw an uncatchable and untrackable DOM exception when the worker terminated...because the worker deleted the DOMException property. Now it throws a nice uncaught exception: NS_ERROR_FAILURE: Failure
Seriously Firefox. dafuq?
 
@GNi33 Yeah? Which ones?
 
there are some wrapper-tags with date-attributes
i'll need to get the 5 ones with the "highest" date
 
I want to make you work! I have nothing against you but you keep being a retard! ugh
 
is that somehow possible without going over the whole list and go crazy sorting that stuff?
 
3:16 PM
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man now I want to watch Sister Act 2
fml
who wants to watch sister act 2?!!?!?!
 
wasn't the second one exceptionally bad?
i mean, the first was a mess, but the second...
 
If you want to join in on the fun, dump this into an html page and run in FF
Brute-force, here I come :D
 
@GNi33 I don't think it's possible without sorting, no
That's a fairly complicated xpath
 
@Zirak answering OLD questions I see :-P
 
3:23 PM
yeah, i thought so :/
 
@GNi33 you don't have to do some crazy sorting stuff...
just going through the list once is enough
it's an O(1) sorting algorithm there
 
omg did you see that sleigh
 
FOUND YOU, FUCKER
 
well yeah, i was thinking about pushing higher dates to a hashmap there
 
3:25 PM
DOMException, Event and MessageEvent. SUCCESS
 
..
 
@SimonSarris hehe, yeah. it's a "cute" feature :D
 
@FlorianMargaine Going through the list once is at least O(n)
 
75% done ;D
I love Windows :3 ... cause i can use chrome nicely on it <3
 
3:28 PM
I love chrome on osx more
 
I hate OSX most :(
 
for some reason, the overall webkit engine performance is like 400% faster on osx, than it is on windows
 
yeah
 
@rlemon: how can somebody hate osx
 
@rlemon with you!
 
3:30 PM
its a nice interface which is just keeping all the trouble and blood away from you, but yet you can dig into the bloodiest nightmare of unix, if you wish
 
@jAndy Apple haters :P
 
Hate Apple for business practices....
Hate iPhones because they suck....
Love iPods because they are the best personal music devices out there....
Hate OSX because I am not a fan at all of their UX.
Hate iMacs because they substitute proper design for a sleek form factor... then the thing over heats and crashes
 
After buying iPhone 4S and experiencing iOS 6 i hate em
 
I'm totally on with you on this @jAndy
 
how can you seriously hate the apple UX
 
3:31 PM
except for the "dig into the bloodiest nightmare of unix"
 
its genius
 
it's really bad
the lack of good package manager sucks
 
@jAndy it's not intuitive to someone who has used windows / linux his entire life.
so yea, I hate it.
my brothers gf has an iMac. I've used it before for games and other things... not fun.
 
thats no argument at all
so far, almost any UX and Interface design which is widespreaded and used across devices, had a root on apple
beginning with a simple mouse
 
@jAndy ok, your argument is invalid.
I don't like the UX
I don't think it's intuitive..
 
3:34 PM
ok ok, so we don't have any base for a conversation then
 
Apple made tonnes of innovations in the 80's and 90's with personal computers.
 
OSX has an annoying interface
 
:P
thats @Raynos style
 
recently they just have been giving more form, less function.
 
So I found the most obnoxious bug with node.js and node-canvas
 
3:34 PM
^ how I see it.
I don't mind a clunky tower so long as my heat distribution allows me to play games for a few hours without crashing
iMacs cannot do this
 
setting the canvas context fillStyle to "LightBlue" doesn't work in node-canvas, it must be "lightblue"
 
I never had a crash on any osx device I used
 
@jAndy D3 for < 3 hours on high settings over heated and crashed the machine time after time
looked it up on the Apple support forums or w/e and it's "known" that games that require high processing for graphics may over heat and crash the machine..
o_O but it's a media machine....
 
currently, I'm like chrome (252 tabs), FF(242 tabs), codA, spotify, gimp, random finders and I'm playing path of exile on wine(emulator)
 
and my PC that cost me 1/2 the price plays them without a hitch.
 
3:37 PM
ok its 24gig ram
 
took me 2 hours to realize
 
High graphics? Ours were roasting during Minecraft.
 
IE needs localhost :-|
 
@SomeKittens lol, welll D3 is the only game I've played on a mac.
I tend to stay away from them at all costs.
when I was working in eLearning I had to test on a mac.... FML
 
@rlemon i will buy a mac sooner or later :P
 
3:38 PM
and I TOTALLY WANT THE 2012 IMAC LINE
 
Mac SQA is annoying
 
i dont care about overheating , if i am moving to canada i doubt they will ever overheat ;-)
 
I'm stuck on my 2010, it looks so clunky and fat now
 
@Abhishek dude, I live in Canada. This is where it over heated.
time after time
 
@rlemon over-clocked ?
 
3:38 PM
nope
stock, out of the box.
 
probably it was angry at u (XD)
 
my bro's gf is a 'designer' - so she bought the bad ass iMac in 2011... dunno exact model. I'm sure I can find it.
 
@Abhishek you know, even if it's cold in canada, people have heaters
 
we got her D3 and when i'm at his house I use her Mac for LAN (not real LAN) games.
 
@FlorianMargaine Hey flo, i doubt anybody heats there house as much as my house is normally
 
3:40 PM
@Abhishek Really?
 
Sure enough, 20 minutes in and I cannot touch the back of it, 2-3 hours in and it over heats and crashes.
 
its december and i am sitting comfortably with a fan 4 inches by me :P
@AmaanCheval yes .. sadly (x
 
oh yeah sure
 
Why?
 
just a second :P
 
3:40 PM
@Abhishek my GF makes me keep the apartment at 27C
!!/convert 27C
 
Oh don't mind me, that isn't difficult at all...
@rlemon 80.6F, 300.15K
 
sounds like a broken fan or smth
 
We use Celsius too
 
!!thanks
 
@rlemon in india we use Celcius
 
3:40 PM
@SomeKittens Y U NO MAEK SENSE!? Could not understand thank
 
We don't...
 
I know, I was doing that for SomeKittens and Loktar
 
@SomeKittens My pleasure
 
Yeah, well.
 
Which is stupid. Metric is better.
 
3:41 PM
true, true
 
At least in Farenheit, 0 is too cold, and 100 is too hot
 
Metric at least makes sense. Imperial was "hrmm... this doesn't really make sense but this is close to recognizable things"
but to be frank. Kelvin is the only (temp) scale that REALLY makes sense.
 
0
 
@rlemon Kind of.. 0 makes sense, but the scale makes as much sense as Celsius scale
 
It still blows my mind how people can casually say negative degrees (metric or imperial.)
 
3:45 PM
Just doing a java project for university... to be honest, I can somewhat understand why so many people dump their crap on SO in a plz-send-me-the-codez style...
 
You can't travel a negative distance, you can't spend a negative amount of time.
 
Why can there be negative degrees? Kelvin for president
 
doesn't any scale make sense intrinsically, per definition ?
 
@FlorianMargaine see it :P
 
3:46 PM
@Neil Celsius only "makes sense" because it is temperatures we care about. 0 (freezing point of water) and 100 (boiling point) are easy to understand and relate too.. Kelvin on the other hand is the true representation of the temperature on a scale that makes sense globally and to every species (assuming there are intelligent aliens)
@jAndy Kelvin.
 
i am still using a fan blowing straight onto me :P
 
@jAndy 0 is "no heat". voila.
 
define temperature, then tell me Kelvin isn't an accurate representation of the temperature scale.
 
0 meters is "no distance", 0 seconds is "no time", 0 kelvin is "no heat". Makes perfect sense.
 
heat or movement, which came first?
oh wai--
 
3:47 PM
@rlemon You reason that Kelvin is smart, unlike Celsius, then you say that the scale smartly uses Celsius scale
 
@FlorianMargaine aha, now there I got it wrong
 
@Neil did you just tell me to go fuck myself?
3
 
I assumed that heat and movement are a function of one another, but they're not
 
@rlemon No, I think I said something different
 
They're just two different entities
 
3:47 PM
I agree kelvin is the closest scale on reality and makes therefore a lot of sense, but as somebody stated, we could also define any scale and .. if get used to it, it makes sense
kelvin is just the core, describing reality and the lowest possible temperature and celcius is defined more on reason
 
@AmaanCheval facebook.com/VosCast
screenshot that page for me
 
kelvin is already impractical for everyday use
 
By your logic, meters is just too low level, so we need another scale...?
 
@Neil Who cares, fuck the infidels who don't use kelvin
 
3:49 PM
Might as well use a scale that's based on say, the freezing point of hydrogen or something
 
You can also use a distance-scale based on where you are in relation to Buckingham palace
 
Celsius is smart only because it is relational to something universal like water.
Kelvin is the best because it accurately represents temperature, and not a reflection on how temperature affects our lives.

Metric is smart because it is a scale that follows simple rules and progresses by powers of ten. Unlike Imperial systems which are representations of things that remind us of measurements (foot for example).
 
@AmaanCheval facepalm
 
not even kelvin is really so great, since the "lowest possible temperatur" is not fixed. Its variable and will fall over the next million / billion years
 
3:51 PM
@Abhishek What?
 
nothing nv,
i am having issues with facebook :-/ but urgh
 
@jAndy good thing mankind won't be there to care anymore then
 
@jAndy how do you figure.
 
so celcius is probably more smart, to define/assciate "0" with some process in nature we can observe
 
It's not the "lowest possible temperature" though
 
3:51 PM
Absolute Zero is Absolute. Matter stops moving.
 
It's "no temperature", which isn't possible
 
this is not going to change... matter will not all of a sudden move in reverse.
 
Still, the Imperial Hitler is useful.
 
@rlemon: at current standard theory, its going to expand with no ending
 
Kelvin is based on this. We cannot produce absolute zero but we have been close.
@jAndy there is no "hottest", but there is a defined "coldest"
 
and since we "believe" universe and space was yesterday smaller than today, it was hotter
 
> One hitler shall henceforth be a unit of measurement equal to 6.0*10^6 human deaths.
 
than today, which the the process for the last 13,7(?) billion years
 
coldest is absolute zero. no matter moves.
we do not EXACTLY no what that would equate to temperature wise (because we cannot achieve it) but we can make a very good educated guess.
 
well, true
 
3:54 PM
and it's not going to change.
 
@Zirak Brilliant
 
how we perceive matter will... and if the universe never stops expanding or doesn't start slowing down matter will eventually get to the point where it is expanding faster than light.
then the universe will suck.
 
yay true, I was confused. Kelvin's lowpoint is at the ultimate zero point right ?
 
reddit is awesome
 
3:55 PM
There are some epic comments in that thread
 
based on the assumption that it will exist where the trend says it will.
if we are a slight few points off then it is there and Kelvin assumed wrong :P but until we know what absolute zero really is, we have to take his word on it :P
 
There have been many tests which indicate a clear linear trend towards absolute zero
It would be rather surprising to come to find out that it does a curve like a silly straw at the point when it should hit absolute zero
 
YES but we can not PROVE it yet :P
 
which actually is still not possible / compatible with quantum mechanics
 
@Neil well stranger things have been recorded at those temperatures
 
3:57 PM
if that was true, movement and position would be defined
which is impossible, if Planck wasn't wrong :p
 
@jAndy how much physics makes sense in the quantum world :P seriously, it's like comparing apples and oranges
 
@rlemon: well, any phsyics ends there obivously
 
Quantum Physics teacher on first day of class: "There is no point arguing with me, this stuff will pretty much go against everything we taught you up till now.... it is a damn shame"
 
Which actually, I profess my ignorance in such things, but if absolute zero means that things become as close together, isn't that what causes heat?
 
so if zero temperature describes zero movement, this will be toughe to accomplish (ignoring the fact that we most certainly never will be able to measure)
 
3:59 PM
@jAndy yes but the rules are so different (and we don't FULLY understand it yet, so defining rules and extrapolating differences is just a guess at this point)
 
or maybe it's movement combined with the fact that it's forced together that makes heat
at that point, is a black hole made of incredibly hot or incredibly cold material?
 
heat === excited molecules...
slow down the molecules and the heat is reduced...
stop the molecules and you cannot "remove" any more heat - i.e. absolute zero
 
@rlemon I'm surprised he didn't say "You'll be both right and wrong at the same time"
 
Hi guys
 
@rlemon: if we believe planck, it is more or less a rule. But nonetheless we can't come closer to facts, observing
 
4:00 PM
@Neil read my last statement and you will have your black hole answer
 
Quantum stuff blows my mind.
 
My questions seems to get very few attention, could someone please look into it? [stackoverflow.com/questions/13817700/…
 
@SomeKittens he was indecisive about that joke ;)
 
@rlemon Actually I was asking the chatroom, but glad to get your input, thx
 
!!/rimshot
 
4:01 PM
@SomeKittens Command rimshot does not exist.
 
@ThiefMaster you here ?
 
@Neil am I not part of the chat room? Shit....
 
!!/listcommands
 
need to discuss a small thought outa my head :-/
 
@SomeKittens Available commands: help, listen, eval, live, die, refresh, forget, ban, unban, regex, jquery, choose, user, listcommands, purgecommands, define, norris, urban, parse, tell, mdn, beautify, convert, get, google, hang, learn, slap, nudge, ring, roll, spec, stat, todo, undo, echo, whatswhat
 
4:01 PM
yes
 
!!/help whatswhat
 
!!/learn rimshot *Buh dum tsh*
.*
 
@SomeKittens whatswhat: User-taught command: ` If you are going to try to hack me, please do so in the SandBox. Thanks.`
 
Okay thief you are familiar with shoutcast , dont you think it puts way too much load on a single server ?
 
@rlemon Yes, as I figure, you are a part of it
 
4:02 PM
@rlemon Command rimshot learned
 
yes, somewhat
No, why should it?
 
It depends too much on a single server
 
It just buffers a small amount of data and dumps them on a socket
And you could always use a DNS round-robin to distribute people on multiple servers
 
// err got my words wrong
 
@ThiefMaster can I IM you a list of users that piss me off and you can ban them? Please? Pretty Please?
 
4:02 PM
haha
 
@ThiefMaster can u explain this one better ?
 
Of course the server is a single point of failure if you have just one
But then again, even if it crashes.. clients will reconnect as long as the server is back soon enough
 
what if its down for long , client gets frustrated :-|
i was thinking of a cloud based broadcast server , fail safe
what you say ? worth writing code or not ?
 
Probably overkill except for very large stations that are likely to attract ddos attacks
 
can u private talk somewhere ? // the topic is kinda too vague and open to talk in public
 
4:08 PM
watch out, rlemon's trying to get us all banned!
 
Uh, kind of busy right now
 
Meh. I'm fairly certain I'm not on his "to ban" list
 
But feel free to message on IRC if you want
 
@ThiefMaster what room are u at ?
 
gamesurge or freenode network; just PM me there
 
4:10 PM
ppl still use irc ..
 
nvm i will ttyl
 
@GNi33 No, just me I'm sure :P
 
@Neil You sure? I think it was Neal who was annoying :p
Were you the one whining about being mis-pinged?
 
@rlemon this sounds most dangerous
 
@AmaanCheval Neal is me afterall
 
4:19 PM
Hahaha
 
Isn't that true, @Neal?
 
@jAndy Why not? It's still nice. Especially if you have unlimited powers :P
 
@Neil what?
 
@Neal That you're me.
 
4:22 PM
somekittens@somekittens-PC ~ $ man woman
No manual entry for woman
 
@SomeKittens Hahaha
@Neil Damn you! Stop confusing yourself!
 
@Neil Sorry.
 
somekittens@somekittens-PC ~ $ ^How did the sex change operation go?
bash: substitution failed
 
C:\>If you're happy and you know it, syntax error!
Syntax error.
 
@SimonSarris imagine me as a chanting crowd Pull request, pull request, pull request!
 
4:29 PM
Poll: If node.js's tutorial says to use someone else's ppa, and that ppa fails, are they responsible to at least remove the instruction?
 
This is the happiest commit I ever had: github.com/Zirak/SO-ChatBot/commit/…
@SomeKittens Like anything dishing out false information, yeah, yell at them.
 
@Abhishek you like techno and metal, right?
 
yes
but not in the mood of both at the moment .. i just wanna focus on coding .. silently
 
@Neil Huh? I already know that I am me.
 
Check out Celldweller if you haven't already (whenever)
 
4:34 PM
eehhrrmmm....
 
@Neal You sound like a ventriloquist doll. Stop it.
 
if you register for DOMContentLoaded after the event fired already, what is actually best practice check/fire a callback ?
 
@Neil No you stop it
 
it won't fire then, will it ?
 
4:38 PM
@SomeKittens Switch back
 
is there a W3C DOMReady best practice check ?
 
@Abhishek Yup.
 
New standing-desk rig, as of yesterday:
Woo!
 
@SomeKittens heard em about 2 years back man
 
oh... there is document.readyState
neat
 
4:41 PM
Oh fine. Still awesome.
 
my favoite coding music is still and will be Linkin Park though
 
I'm not a fan of standing desks. Though that may just be my ADD/constant fidgeting (not good for standing)
 
It's pretty awesome. I feel less lazy, even though I still just stand in one place all day.
 
my colleague has an awesome project
he can't use jquery.
 
That is awesome.
 
4:44 PM
yeah
phonegap project
 
I've decided recently that jQuery doesn't just make things easy, it makes thingks boring.
@FlorianMargaine Ah, I see.
 
@FlorianMargaine why cant ?
PhoneGap is just a web-friken view! jQuery works just fine!
 
@Abhishek project requirements
lucky him.
he just discovered mdn
 
!!/tell florian's_coworker mdn ALL THE THINGS
 
Oh don't mind me, that isn't difficult at all...
:6648619 Could not process input. Error: Unexpected end of input: Expected ' on column 38
 
4:48 PM
he's like "woa that's awesome"
 
I've forgotten how long it can take to make on a P3.
 
welp I'm done with NodeJS for now. Anyone use PhantomJS?
 
@SimonSarris I tried for an hour
Why?
 
> The uploader has not made this video available in your country.
 
4:57 PM
> Unfortunately, this video is not available in Germany because it may contain music for which GEMA has not granted the respective music rights.
fuck them. even the labels hate that most of their videos are banned here
 

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