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3:00 PM
@OtávioBarreto don't listen to anything I said and you should be good
 
@Royi but you want the permanent caching of a 301
 
so just bought avatar... half way through watching it, I've realized I have made a terrible mistake.
 
So I'm looking at various API frameworks and connected tool kits. I see a common pattern of mapping your DB schema through a ORM directly to your API. And that seems to be the entire API. Is it just me or is that somewhat of a naive approach? Our API is very far from simply pushing model data over the wire
 
Also, I don't care about re-posting a body. If you are posting to the wrong protocol, you aren't my client software.
 
@vap0R
why?
 
3:01 PM
@corvid Porn version?
Or worse, non-porn version? O___O
 
@ssube Post is not a subject to cache. if you post to http and the server send a temporay redirect (301) , then body will not resubmit
 
@OtávioBarreto 2 reason:
1) I was messing around
2) When I wasn't messing around, ssube still has more knowledge than me
 
with 307 - it will
 
@OliverSalzburg nah, that would have some redeeming qualities, like blue boobs. blooobs.
 
@Royi that's fine. Like Luggage said, if somebody is submitting data to an insecure protocol, I want to throw an error.
 
3:02 PM
Ooh wait! **3rd reason**
3) Caesar cipher is the same cipher that is on the back of children's cereal boxes
 
I only even redirect as a courtesy to the user typing in a url manually.
 
Ok thanks for your adivice guys
 
I'd rather be semantically correct and advertise that the site has moved permanently vs help a broken client resubmit data.
@Luggage and bookmarks
 
does 301 update your bookmark?
 
no, but your browser should remember and jump right to the new URL next time
 
3:04 PM
Or you just mean that it's to let bad bookmarks work?
ohh, ok.
 
@Luggage hsts does
 
so. i just do this and have never had a reason to do anything more:
# HTTP (forward only)
server {
    listen 80 default_server;
    listen [::]:80 default_server ipv6only=on;

    # redirect all urls to https://
    location = / {
        return 301 https://$http_host$request_uri;
    }
}
(a reason that I knew of, at least)
 
the only thing I might add is an explicit list of ciphers, that'll get you the A+ on an HTTPS test :P
ssl-default-bind-ciphers ECDH+AESGCM:DH+AESGCM:ECDH+AES256:DH+AES256:ECDH+AES128:DH+AES:ECDH+3DES:DH+3DES:RSA+AESGCM:RSA+AES:RSA+3DES:!aNULL:!MD5:!DSS
ssl-default-bind-options no-sslv3
 
the server{} listening on 443 does have a list
 
We also add HSTS
 
3:08 PM
@ssube What a tryhard
 
I think those settings might block IE8 and 9, but whatevs
 
And we have server_name _; for some reason
Comments people! Comments!
 
well., it's not explicit, it just disincludes some bad ones
Your list is IE11+ compatible ssube? I may use it, then.
can I post what I use judgement-free if it's bad?
 
I think so? There's a site with a bunch of recommendations for cipher lists
I got it from there and cut out a bunch I didn't care about supporting
 
Yea. I found so many recommendations I didn't know which to trust.
 
3:09 PM
The intersection of all of them. :D
 
ssl_protocols TLSv1 TLSv1.1 TLSv1.2;
ssl_ciphers "HIGH:!aNULL:!MD5 or HIGH:!aNULL:!MD5:!3DES";
ssl_prefer_server_ciphers on;
and i think i can drop tls 1..
 
make sure you don't have any Win XP clients
 
fuckem if i do.
 
ugh, that's almost as bad as buzzfeed
 
3:20 PM
> closed surface
 
But really though buzzfeed is not as bad as flat earth calculus
 
agree to disagree
 
I've spent the last two days reading shitposts. fml
> British politician wants death penalty for suicide bombers
 
I read that as cannibalistic benefits.
 
3:25 PM
@littlepootis funny title, but I think they're referring to the ones who didn't explode, and their accomplices
 
I guess it depends on who you eat.
 
They shouldn't get the death penalty anyway.. that's what they want.
Should be forced into the prison population
 
well, a non-martyr death, perhaps.
 
@Loktar You're saying suicide bombers choose to do it because they want to die?
 
@KendallFrey yes.
 
3:26 PM
That's what suicide bombers say.
 
That seems unlikely to me
 
to die a martyr ensures an eternity in heaven
 
It's a guaranteed entry into their "heaven" being the ultimate martyr, even if they did a lot of stuff considered harem.
@Luggage yeah exactly
 
@KendallFrey that's because you aren't the target audience
 
So they want to die, but it only counts under certain conditions?
 
3:28 PM
Just tell them that their heaven doesn't exist and let them go
Easy
 
fixed my css thingy.. now instead of find and replacing in the sheet it generates a new sheet and only plucks the selectors / value rules that contain colours
 
@Luggage LOL
 
@Meredith That makes the problem slightly worse
 
Really cuz I was proposing it completely seriously
 
How would that help anything, at all
 
3:29 PM
@Meredith yeah they would totally listen to infidels telling them that.
 
@Meredith lol
 
that doesn't work with any religion, half the doctrine is dedicated to "those people who tell you this is fake are lying"
 
You're basically saying to them "I'm an infidel, now go back to what you were doing"
 
Or you could make them watch gay porn for 6 hours and just see what happens
 
right.
 
3:30 PM
Ubisoft could take some hints from organized religion on threatening users into engagement
 
Nothing, really.
 
Meredith they shoot up night clubs.
 
^
 
I think they would come to accept it after 6 hours
 
Were you a judge before, by any chance?
 
3:31 PM
No I'm an amateur
 
@KendallFrey good lord. Kik launched their own digital currency kik.com/blog/announcing-kin-a-cryptocurrency-for-an-open-future
 
It's so pretty!
 
@BenFortune I always knew you were a brony.
 
@Trasiva You know it. Gotta love animated horses fucking each other
 
Looks like a part to fix your hyperdrive.
 
3:36 PM
opening statement
> We’ve reached a worrying point in the evolution of the internet: more and more of our everyday digital activities – from talking to friends to ordering food to sharing photos – are controlled by fewer and fewer companies.
in a fucking blog post talking about centralising everything to their app.
 
Ok but kik sucks
 
god dammit PR people..; get your shit together.
 
What a ridiculous idea.
 
@BenFortune clean your trashy desk dude wth
 
@Loktar mostly receipts haha
 
3:38 PM
lol
 
I just .. like the first half of the post is talking about how bad what they're doing it when other companies do it
 
tell people it's origami
 
and tiny bottles of scotch
 
^
Origami mountains
 
Origami screwed up pieces of paper
It's art
 
3:38 PM
@BenFortune otoh, your fingernails are immaculate.
 
> an economy based on buying and selling stickers, hosting and joining group chats, creating and using bots, and much more.
 
throwback to like 2010
whats ur kik
 
@rlemon People always comment on my fingernails, it's fucking weird man
I cut them every week, people think I get manicures
 
@BenFortune most peoples nails are not that nice.
 
two weeks is two long
 
3:40 PM
I'm refactoring es5 react to es6. They have a thing called blacklist that appears to remove certain properties from an object. I thought there was a native way to do this with es6. Was it called Destructing?

Example:
var props = {foo: "bar", fuzz: "buzz"}
props = blacklist(props, "fuzz")
console.log(props)
// {foo: "bar"}
 
three weeks is three long
 
I'm a biter 😒 my nails forever look like shit
 
I bite my nails
 
my nails would be velociraptor talons after 3 weeks
 
Finally switched to some expensive liquid too, I don't think I can ever go back
 
3:40 PM
I pay like $50 for 120ml
 
@Vap0r look in react docs for "object rest spread"
 
Used to pay £1 for 10ml
 
@Luggage thanks!
 
This bottle was £15 for 60ml, and it's incredible
 
that's pretty cheap :P
 
3:41 PM
The new laws suck though
They sell it at 0mg with a nicotine shot
 
the $20-25/60mL range is where it's at. The fancy stuff doesn't taste any better.
 
so you gotta mix it yourself?
 
Whats the difference between the cheapo stuff and the fancy stuff
 
less than that and you get the gross sour flavors that give you a sore throat and stuff
 
that sounds more dangerous tbh.
 
3:42 PM
Just mix it in and shake it for 60 seconds or so
 
letting customers handle the concentrated nic.
 
It's not concentrated
 
I'm pretty sure it's just watered down nicotine and artificial flavors
 
It's a 10ml shot
 
@Meredith better ingredients (real food grade stuff vs animal food stuff) and better flavors.
 
3:42 PM
huh?
 
Can you vape caffeine?
 
like, cheapo stuff will be bottom shelf VG and some pink lemonade powder
 
when you're DIY juice making you get a concentrated nic base (like 100mg/ml+) in pg, and then your VG + flavour
mix them all together with some more PG
 
What's VG?
What's PG
 
I've thrown the bottle away, but it's like 10ml pure vg mixed with nicotine iirc
 
3:43 PM
frosting sugar and another kind of sugar
 
Propylene Glycol and Vegetable Glycerin
 
Oh
 
Glycerin, the stuff you put in shampoo bottles and sneak onto planes
 
you could probably add VG to fireball and vape it
 
3:44 PM
18mg
not too bad then
 
fireball whiskey?
 
it's 18mg/10ml of vg, the mix i got was 0mg/50ml
 
fireball "whiskey"
 
drop it in and it's 3mg/60ml
 
Vegetable Glycerin is in everything
I didn't notice how much we use VG until I started vaping
 
3:45 PM
Like airplane bombs
 
but it's not inhaled in most of those forms
 
it's like corn syrup when you want the consistency, rather than sweetness
 
@Meredith except those, sorry.
 
@Luggage Pretty much every form other than vaping
 
VG is used in a lot of cosmetics, health crap, fog machines, soaps, etc. it's also used for farm animal laxatives
that last one I just think is funny
 
3:46 PM
It also looks like shampoo
 
and you can fill an entire room with fog machine smoke and breath just fine
having helped film some music videos, let me tell you about smoke machine abuse
 
that's different than vaping every day for years and years.
 
I'm pretty sure you can breath an atmosphere made of nothing but VG
 
@ssube I noticed after vaping in my car, there's a very thin film on my windscreen
 
I'm not saying it's dangerous, but that previous uses don't prove it safe, either.
 
3:47 PM
@BenFortune especially during the winter
 
Yeah, comes off easily enough though
 
VG and PG are both safe to inhale. we've been using them forever. the danger is the flavourings.
 
And the mishandling of pure nicotine
 
inhaling food grade flavourings is new
so yea, we're kinda hoping for the best
 
Which IIRC is poisonous to the touch?
 
3:47 PM
well, they likely are safe, but we haven't been breathing them on a daily basis forever.
 
@Luggage some people have
 
and breathing vs eating vs bathing in are different.
 
just not the masses
 
Ehhhh there is a lot of legitimate debate about the safety of VG and PG inhalation, but you're right, flavourings and nicotine are both more dangerous
 
nicotine isn't even that dangerous.
 
3:48 PM
there is some science on breathing VG, because it's been used in fog machines for so long
 
not in those small amounts
 
we have some flavors that we know are toxic, like popcorn butter
 
But really though vaping is pretty douchey
 
@BenFortune you do remember correctly
 
@ssube any career stage tech would have a solid 10+ years breathing it
 
Yea. Don't take what I have to say as fear-mongering. I'd vape. It's gotta be better than smoking. I just fight back at what I perceive as a blindness to the IDEA that it might not be perfect for you. I support any legit study into it.
 
He didn't die, it's safe
 
@ssube there are 0 cases of diacetyl causing popcorn lungs in vapours (tmk), we just know if you're working in the factory for a number of years you're gonna have a bad time.
 
Also I prefer the smell of cigarettes to the smell of artificial strawberry
Like it's gross
 
I always hear people talking about popcorn lungs, but never seen any studies
 
3:50 PM
I agree with Luggage's sentiment entirely. Almost everything is carcinogenic in some form. To pretend that something that leaves a film in your car is not damaging a mucous membrane in your body in some (however slight) way is ignorant
 
@Meredith pipe tobacco is the best to smell.
 
@Meredith I wasn't sold until a friend of mine has blue raspberry.
 
Currently on cherry lemonade
 
Why don't you vape something more cultured
 
@Vap0r We're not arguing that vapes are safe, just that VG is. Some of the flavors definitely are not.
 
3:51 PM
Like caviar or truffles
 
because those are gross
 
@Vap0r there are studies. people have tested this now. vaping is "at least" 95% safer than smoking. the particulate counts in the vapor is so small you're basically standing in heavy traffic or better
 
rich people food is disgusting
 
depending on the coil, and how hot you get it
 
well, truffle oil is great
 
3:52 PM
Truffle oil is aids
 
PG still has some studies that indicate there are issues.
 
a little truffle oil on popcorn.. so good.
 
@Vap0r so does white flour
 
How can i use variables from super class in extended class?
 
is there even a market for farm-grown truffles or morels ?
 
3:52 PM
I'm not concerned when I make a sandwich
 
I did make mushroom sauce with truffle oil and red wine, that was good.
 
i had popcorn at the theatre last night it was so good
 
Can you even grow truffles on a farm?
 
@TruongHieu super.foo
 
You should be. White bread is killing us. :)
 
3:53 PM
i only ever hear about people foraging for them, but surely they must be farmable
 
Like isn't that the whole reason they're expensive
You can't farm them
 
they grow in the woods, mostly
 
I just got a few pigs and make sure to stock up on hay
the truffles just show up in the mornings
 
it's not like ambergris
 
You just buy some pigs from marnie and feed them. Bam. Truffles.
 
3:53 PM
^
 
On the other hand, good luck finding natural foie gras
 
go squeeze a goose
 
When Mayor Lewis isn't pummeling her.
 
@ssube I don't have a death wish, no thanks.
 
@rlemon I'm not arguing that vaping is unsafe, or that cigs are better. I'm just saying that to pretend that inhaling ANYTHING repeatedly that isn't specifically meant to be absorbed by the body isn't damaging is false. Vaping is probably safer than living in certain areas of china as far as atmosphere is concern. But I believe the threshold for what makes something carcinogenic is what we're actually arguing here
 
3:55 PM
My baseclass: https://gist.github.com/kainjinez/d14d4eb11f6753ff707f3502299c5529
My extended class: https://gist.github.com/kainjinez/3e0275e507ac7e070051f72237827957
I cannot call super.connectionPool
 
@Vap0r yes, and all of that has also been tested.
 
Idk my opinion is that if you claim that vaping is really bad for you, you better not be eating processed foods
 
@TruongHieu that's because you're using a singleton. Don't use singletons.
 
and will continue to be tested. Lots of people are worried.
 
the best thing about big tobacco coming down on vaping is it pushed people to pay for studies
 
3:55 PM
@TruongHieu this
 
@rlemon which only bone tobacco companies
 
Things that are carcinogenic:
Going outside and holding your breath,
Staying inside and breathing,
Being anywhere near EM radiation
 
@Vap0r Are you using your statistics course here again?
 
i just don't think we're sciencing hard enough
 
@rlemon there are no long term studies so still a lot of unknowns
 
3:56 PM
^
 
sure. I never refuted that
 
Nobody really knows the long term effects yet
 
@Meredith You uh....can't get natural foie gras. It's literally specially raised ducks for their livers.
 
But vape away and be open to news of harm in the future if there is any legit news of it.
 
things we know about: inhaling nic, inhaling VG, inhaling PG. things we don't know about: inhaling food flavourings and what the coils and cotton do.
 
3:57 PM
@Trasiva lol no I read up on this because I was trying to figure out how to get THC-e-juice and ended up going down a rabbit hole
 
@Trasiva Yeah that's what I said
 
Oh, carry on then.
 
@Vap0r I've tried it, smoking it is so much better than vaping
 
@BenFortune depends on the concentrations
 
what I find is people who don't know about what goes into vape juice are more concerned about the nic, vg, and pg.. when they're the things we are pretty solid about -- what people should be focusing on is the flavour additives.
 
3:58 PM
I enjoy dried plants.
 
I wouldn't run any kind of thc through a vape coil for long, though, you'll gunk it up.
 
@ssube You can buy specially designed mods/tanks for it
 
yea, wax and oil attys are a thing now
haven't used one. don't care too
but seen them
 
I've seen them around
I'm not a fan of vaping anything very hot and they all run way too high
 

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