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4:00 PM
Where did you all first hear of KSP?
 
but yeah idk, pretty fun if you enjoy TF2, imo anyway
 
I first saw it on Robbaz's channel
 
@KendallFrey random website, I bought KSP when it was in alpha from the devs site
 
@Tuvia it's... not really too broad, but i kinda want to reach for the primarily opinion based close reason.
 
played it, stopped playing it because of a really annoying bug, watched @Loktar playing it on Twitch, started playing again
 
4:01 PM
I thought it was an abbreviation for Kendall Space Program until today. I saw a Steam popup and noticed it was Kerbal
 
I think this is where I first heard of KSP: shamusyoung.com/twentysidedtale/?p=19396
 
@KevinB I cannot vote to close yet.
 
Kendall Frey: Karel said that someone on a some chat site told about that game. It is sooooo nerdy
 
@KarelG Who are you? lol
 
Nathalie
 
user5861300
4:02 PM
looking for help
 
user5861300
please some one help me oot
 
He is checking my car right now but left his laptop open
 
@KendallFrey A fridnd of mine showed it to me. it was pre-0.17. I thought it was "OK" and ignored it for a while, then one day thought "hey.. i wanna go play that game again"
and then, 6 months later, we were married
 
hipster cred plis
 
So I decided to check what he was doing.
 
4:03 PM
also that price ;)
it converted to a steam key on release as well
 
> cummulative
@Loktar release as in 1.0?
 
no I think it was once it passed greenlight
but maybe not I don't fully remember
I just remember getting a steam key for it
and for $15 it wasn't bad for sure haha
bought it for my kids too at the time
 
I'd buy KSP if I get one of each Invasion-themed weapons in TF2 as achievement items
 
It's only been a year since KSP left EA
 
Is there a way to delete the texts that I have placed here? I don't think that Karel would like that.
 
4:05 PM
 
yeah but it didn't hit steam until like 2014 or 2013?
 
@KarelG Not anymore
 
2/24/13 is when i bought it. i think it was pre-steam
 
You know I'm going to tell Karel
 
I hope you mean early access, not Electronic Arts
 
4:05 PM
@JanDvorak duh
 
lol yeah Early Access
 
You are a mean guy
 
EA is crappy regardless (in many cases) though whatever we mean right :P
 
@KarelG And you're snooping
 
What is "snooping" N
 
4:06 PM
most of my favorite games are early access
 
@Luggage yeah there are some great ones, just a lot of noise to filter through. I wonder what the stats are on EA games actually "releasing"
just steam stats even
 
@Luggage selection bias, not correlation
 
I'm currently hooked on Emperion: Galactic Survival
 
I'm hoping Stellaris is good.
 
still in early alpha
 
4:07 PM
@JanDvorak true, but to avoid early access is to avoid some of the best games
 
@Luggage not if you only avoid until release
 
i agree there is a lot of noise, but i don
t go buying everything
 
which I think is a better approach most of the time, for me anyway, at this point
 
most good games have been early access because most games have been early access.
 
@Loktar then you're just robbing yourself of great play time
 
4:08 PM
ok... some of my favorite games are STILL early access
 
@KendallFrey or saving yourself for the full experience :p
 
or, like KSP, I got into them while they were
 
yeah @Luggage in fairness though KSP was before the real big rush
 
@Loktar The optimal approach is obvious. Pretend every game will never get updated and only pay for ones you want to play right now.
 
exactly.
 
4:09 PM
@KendallFrey yeah totally agree with that statement
 
you don't hear about bad early access games because they're not worth talking about, not because they don't exist
 
@Loktar KSP is almost the poster child for successful EA
 
that's why i don't own.. umm.. that big game.. wing commander guy..
 
starfox?
 
lol
 
4:10 PM
Also, EA tends to have a strong correlation with inexpensive
 
ooooh
Star citizen, right @Luggage?
 
duke nukem forever^H^H^H^H^Hstar citizen
 
I don't want to pay $60 for a game
 
s/\$\w+//
 
@Luggage lol in fairness to Duke Nukem Forever it actually came out at least!
and no one paid $20k for a cool shirt in the game
 
4:11 PM
20K for a shirt? wtf
 
star citizen is craaaazy with backing money, I mean power to you if that's your thing, but putting 10k into a game is insane imo
@KendallFrey for ships actually in SC
some people have spent over 20k, it's absurd
 
Plot twist: That's you
 
haha hell no
 
Yo yo yo o/
Oh @Loktar I was here for you !
 
It looks like an awesome game, I paid like $40 so far, but I'm just waiting to see if it's actually released
 
4:12 PM
free to play games are usually much more expensive to play than games that cost money upfront.
 
hey hey @dievardump!
 
like internet chats
 
true, i spent some money of planetside 2.
more than a normal game. no where approaching 20k.
 
@JanDvorak yeah, I prefer that model though really
 
or 1k
 
4:13 PM
then I can try before I buy, and if I like a game, I will drop money to support it
although I hate when the focus of the game is around the pay model
 
@Loktar You're the guy that pays Gaben's salary, admit it.
 
yea, i like the model, but the difference between pay-for-convenience and pay-to-win is really blurry.
 
@Luggage yeah exactly, very few games seem to get it right
 
@JanDvorak I don't pay for F2P
 
@KendallFrey he is really my dad.
 
4:15 PM
@Loktar omg I finally realized what you meant by Canada
 
Do you have any article where I could get the basis of false 3D ? (like 3D but only with a perspective)
I don't know how to explain
 
> text = text.replace(/\bthe game\b/gi, "Canada");
 
@dievardump @towc has an article on codepen explaining it
/me finds link
 
Oh
I can search
 
@dievardump you mean like front-facing sprites?
 
Hum no more knowing how much I have to scale an object according to his Z
 
to fake the perspective
 
that's where Towcs article came from iirc
also where I learned to do it
 
@dievardump That's a pretty simple function, if that's all you need
 
4:17 PM
I want to understand it
not just the function :D
 
What are you trying to understand, beyond the function?
 
the universe.
 
I'm not sure there's anything between "knowing how to do it in 2D" and "knowing how to do it in 3D"
 
@littlepootis It does have skins
 
ahh gnah.. don't fool around with js if you have something important open in a tab
 
4:19 PM
@rlemon photoshop this to make it look like someone wrote "clean me" on the side of CRS-8: youtu.be/YCv31VFk1Lg?t=5m46s
 
do { continue } while( this );
 
@jAndy wait it out
 
or "wash me", etc
 
> Sometimes one of your rockets might fail to explode and you’ll find yourself in space.
haha this is KSP in a nutshell
 
@JanDvorak that never worked for me
 
4:20 PM
Well I'll see if I don't get some things from the article and come back in that case @KendallFrey
 
what is that from, kendall?
 
Thanks Loktar for the links ;)
 
even if I wait.. firefox is unable to resume from an infinite loop
 
yeah np @dievardump good luck!
 
@jAndy for some reason reading that feels so melodic
 
4:20 PM
it is, isn't it!
 
( I just saw a gif that I want to make with canvas aha, so I need this !)
 
Someone linked it further up, I was just reading it
 
@Zirak I wasted a lot of money on skins (like $10) and I now hate them
 
Hats though...
 
@jAndy it lets you kill/break the script after a while. while is usually 5 seconds I think.
 
4:22 PM
as I said, that never worked for me with an infinite loop
it just continues to block
 
I just tested it on Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:47.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/47.0
 
@KendallFrey thanks for the reminder!
you see the last video?
omg.. it was like the season finale
 
no, it's a series??
 
haha no but the effort put into it just made me think of it as that
 
user5992646
4:26 PM
@KendallFrey serious question because I cannot truly understand it: is that video serious?
 
user5992646
truly or entirely.
 
depends what serious is
 
user5992646
especially "cure cancer"
 
@KendallFrey Fuck that looks like Dugger.
 
@TodoPertin medical MJ
 
user5992646
4:28 PM
lol
 
0
Q: How To Make a Video game(the easiest method)

MasterchiefFirst of all I need the easiest way.I don't know where to start with,but I have done some research.Well,one question is there...should I need to learn programming language??If yes,which one??

 
Is there a javascript trigger for editing a textbox? (not onchange because thats only when the user edits the textbox then leaves)
 
@AwalGarg lol
 
The reason I am asking is because I'm trying to create a textbox with lines on the side, similar to copy.sh/brainfuck
 
4:31 PM
@Abhishrek this looks horrifying
 
@Cereal its actually really nice, they have 6 - 8 year olds publishing tiny games :D
and someone even wrote a raytracer init.
 
@Abhishrek the games are boring though
 
@thepiercingarrow they're for kids
 
@Abhishrek and they dont use computer science to its fullest
 
@thepiercingarrow YMMV, I and RhyTooManyNumbers have made pretty complex games on it
 
4:32 PM
we don't either
 
@littlepootis their algorithms are bad and you don't even want to know the time complexity for some of them
 
@thepiercingarrow I have written DOOM like game on it
 
@littlepootis scratch advocates the "as long as it works" philospoly which is bad practice
 
and its perfect for that stuff
 
4:33 PM
javascript is better
or C with ncurses
 
As long as it works is the best philosophy
 
@thepiercingarrow it is for fucking 8 year olds who barely even know how cos and sin works
 
Especially without tests
 
@Abhishrek 8 year olds shouldnt be trying to make games
 
4:34 PM
you want them to learn algorithm complexity?
 
@Abhishrek yup
 
@thepiercingarrow why not ? who the fuck are you to decide ?
 
@thepiercingarrow are you trolling?
 
@littlepootis Has to be
 
just because an 8 year old makes better code than you, don't hate on scratch.
 
4:34 PM
@littlepootis no i am not. (i am 14 years old maybe that helps)
 
@thepiercingarrow wait wait, you are an Indian mom, right?
 
oblivious troll is oblivious
 
@AwalGarg nope.
 
Well, you'll make a good one, then.
 
14 year old High School freshman who is in class right now not paying attention to the teacher
 
4:35 PM
@thepiercingarrow I am much older than you, and you're wrong
@thepiercingarrow that's bad
 
Wow you're so cool
 
@thepiercingarrow I was on scratch at your age.
 
I was here at your age
 
and the very idea that I could make pretty cool things (including prims implementations) was mind blowing :D
 
4:36 PM
@thepiercingarrow I am the teacher. You pay attention right now or get out of the class.
 
Whoever made that last one... fuck you xD
 
Scratch is limited and that is the very best thing about it, it focuses you to think more and think smart with the things you have. It pushes you to exhaust everything.
 
7 year olds don't care about algorithmic complexity.
 
I don't even care about algorithmic complexity
if I cared about algorithmic complexity, I wouldn't be using ruby
 
I don't need to care either
 
4:37 PM
@littlepootis Deal with it. making simple games with no regard to proper programming practice is bad for the youth
 
@Cereal or javascript for that instance.
 
it ruins their minds
corrupts their souls
 
@thepiercingarrow Hardly
 
@thepiercingarrow so scratch ruined mine ?
 
@SterlingArcher You want to fuck a big fucking cawk? ok then...
 
4:37 PM
@thepiercingarrow programming practice?
 
@Abhishrek scratch is a one time thing - just dont get too serious with it
 
2 mins ago, by little pootis
oblivious troll is oblivious
 
They're youth?
 
and this guy's who re-implemented
 
pootis got something right
 
4:37 PM
sim's open source ?
 
@AwalGarg Hardly. My teacher is female
 
He's the master of disguise m8
 
@thepiercingarrow how do you know?
 
I had a woman prof in first year, she'd kick anyone out that wasn't apying attention. It was great
One of my better profs
 
gtg to next class, bye. Nice talking :)
 
4:39 PM
@thepiercingarrow what about awal's profile says he's even a real person ?
 
@Abhishrek good point..
 
yeah, racist to assume. amirite pedant frnds?
yes, I am :s
 
@Abhishrek that's one straightforward username
 
4:41 PM
@thepiercingarrow I'm assuming you're a.. perfect programmer who follows only the best practices.
 
user5992646
lol
 
@thepiercingarrow look at scratch.mit.edu/users/RHY3756547 :P
 
@SterlingArcher I was pretty disappointed with the difficulty of DS3
 
and that was with an even more restricted scratch
 
user5992646
little pootis how do you italicise words?
 
4:42 PM
Course it's like the 5th souls game, so probably just used to it now
 
@Abhishrek wtf tht's amazing
 
you have to put emphasis on the keyboard keys when typing those words to italicize the text.
 
@littlepootis I used to have a similar account on that site (x
I wrote path finders in that langauge
then got too mad and ragequit x(
 
user5992646
how do I italicise words on here? could somebody tell me?
 
4:43 PM
46 secs ago, by Awal Garg
you have to put emphasis on the keyboard keys when typing those words to italicize the text.
 
@TodoPertin asterisks
 
His C# work is effing cool though and deserves more recognition.
 
I think
 
no
It's underscores
 
@Cereal Is it not as hard as people are painting it?
 
4:44 PM
@Abhishrek ah, C#, eh okay
 
@Trasiva It's hard like a gameboy game. Once you know the spawns and patterns, it's just fine
 
@littlepootis re-implementing sims online from scratch... ok ?
 
> Requirements: Visual Studio 2015
ah nice
 
There's not a whole lot of rng
 
@Abhishrek that's.. great
 
4:45 PM
@littlepootis drop me a mail if you ever feel like installing it.
 
@Cereal That's really a shame. I mean, I get the point of the game is learning from each death, but a little rng would keep it interesting.
 
@Abhishrek Will probably not work on my PC, though
 
@Trasiva Other people can join your game without your permission with the sole purpose of killing you
So there's that
 
But that's cool
 
user5992646
thank you my friends. :)
 
4:46 PM
@Cereal I...what?
 
@littlepootis drop me a message on hangouts if you ever feel like installing it. I would stop all communication with you immediately.
 
user5992646
italicized
 
"Let's just make it so you can get FUCKED OVER EVEN MORE!"
 
@Trasiva There's 2 states. "dead" and "alive", so to speak. If oyu're alive, anyone can join your game and they get rewarded for killnig you. If you're "dead", you ahlf like half the health, but no worry of someone killing you
you also can't summon other players to help you
There's whole mechanics revolving around killing and protecting people
 
@Cereal Do they get special souls? Or just regular ones?
 
4:49 PM
They get souls, also other items depending if they're part of a covenant that rewards that behavior
 
@AwalGarg k
 
@Cereal Oh, interesting. So it has -some- appeal at least.
 
my god
 
@SterlingArcher my sister has cerebral palsy and i find that ofentive
 
4:51 PM
@SterlingArcher What Ap-palsy-ing behavior. I bet that poor kit was cerebral that someone was hanging out with him.
 
@littlepootis We wouldn't want to ofent you.
 
Let me counter the ofent with this
 
@SterlingArcher holy shit, thats ......
 
@SterlingArcher :O :D
 
@SterlingArcher Hey, it's almost summer! That gives me an idea for a summer camp...
 
@SterlingArcher 3 people and the entire php core team find it ofentve
 
so, what do you guys think of Angular2?
 
I can't do this :(
 
4:55 PM
@SomeKittens Is that season 2?
 
@littlepootis it's ok, I'm jewish
Suck it PHP core team!
 
@Trasiva yeppers peppers
 
@SomeKittens That's next on my list after I finish reading my book.
 
How'd the interview go. by the way?
 
i.imgur.com/f6I8wr6.jpg mother of god. @rlemon
!!afk need to vape after that one
 
4:58 PM
> wat u do 4 livin' m8?
> i spin pens m9
 
just opened, woot (private beta) anyone want an invite?
 
@SterlingArcher holy shit that's the funniest thing I've seen this week
 
@littlepootis well its a pretty cool trick to do anyways
 
!!s/ns/nis/
 
@Abhishrek wat u do 4 livin' m8? i spin penis m9 (source)
 

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