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5:00 PM
Ah.
 
so it's been ripped off a lot, copyright/license removed, and sold a bunch
kinda annoying
 
there are always assholes.
 
@rlemon can't you sue them?
 
but.. i was talking about legit stuff like selling support for open source software.
 
I've decided all of my future software is going to have a backdoor
@towc not interested.
 
5:01 PM
@rlemon but.... money!
 
it isn't a million dollar product
 
It's a shame people don't respect licenses, it's basically pissing on other programmers
 
and lawsuits are not fun
 
@rlemon still, money!
 
it'll COST money.
 
5:01 PM
@towc 1year to maybe make $5K?
it isn't worth it
 
@rlemon but it's money :D
 
I MIT all of my personal projects; mostly because I never finish any of my personal projects, so they're worthless
 
I'll stop
 
HAMMERTIME!
 
caaaaaaaap! wb
 
5:03 PM
@rlemon I do the same thing when I write stuff. Back when I used to MUD I always had a backdoor so if I sent a tell/whisper it'd kill the scripts and self destruct.
 
:( I'm almost 29 years old and I just learned these tags are supposed to be removed when you buy the suit.
 
btw, how much should I ask for?
50€?
I have no idea how to rate programmer work
sometime I really underrate it, sometime I overrate it
 
8 cents a character
 
@rlemon Well I'm 35 and I still don't own a suit
 
quick: add a shitton of comments!
 
5:05 PM
23; no suit, but I will come february, when I have to buy one for my brother's wedding
 
@towc $50/hour unless it's something stupid that's in high demand, like "synergizing angular information architecture designforce consultant"
 
@Nick rent one, then if you get fat before you need it again you can rent a bigger one
 
@ssube this guy legally doesn't owe me any money
 
@ssube "synergizing angular information architecture dragonforce consultant" ftfy
 
@NathanJones that is better
@ivarni @Nick just go to a department store and get a cheap suit for like $300 and take it to a tailor
 
5:07 PM
@ivarni I'm already fat, and slimming down very slowly... lol
 
> "cheap" = "300$"
 
a $250 suit with $50 of tailoring looks better than a regular $800 suit
 
That is cheap for a suit
A Decent suit at men's warehouse will run you at least $500
 
I'd rather not use a suit...
 
So, here's an oddity, in before webforms: I click JUST outside the checkbox in side the span. The checkbox returns as checked, even when it isn't.
 
5:08 PM
I can rent a suit for a weekend for less than $100 and since I use one maybe every second year that's the better option imho
 
@Nick "decent" and "men's wearhouse" shouldn't really be in the same sentence
 
@ivarni make a website: suitrentals.com
 
@ssube Not all of us can afford silk underwear
 
that's like saying "suit that will stay in one piece for more than 5 minutes" and "Jos. A. Bank" together
 
@towc As someone who wore dress blues in the military on a regular basis, a tailored suit will make you look more impressive than the generic cut.
 
5:09 PM
@towc what if you want to take a girl out to a nice dinner?
they won't let you into the restaurant without a suit, or at least a jacket
 
wear suspenders and a trucker hat
 
@ssube I show how I am, not how people would like me to be
and if I want to not show myself to a girl I'm dating I might aswell get a hooker
 
@ssube That's at least where having a sports coat comes in handy.
 
at some point in their life, almost everybody learns to appreciate looking good on occasion
if you never reach that point, you aren't gonna get very far
 
@towc Nice restaurants won't let you in usually without a sports coat or dinner jacket.
 
5:10 PM
 
@Trasiva @towc yep, any decent place will enforce a business casual or better dress code
 
@ssube I need to go back to London and get a couple suits done again. My last one finally wore out. :(
 
when I was in Chicago a few weeks ago I took the lady friend out to a nice dinner, we dressed up and had wine pairings with each course, and it was a great time
 
what if I wear a 49ers starter winter coat?
 
every man should own a nice wool peacoat
 
5:12 PM
@ssube how about jeans and a shirt?
 
 
Everyone should own a nice peacoat
 
I used to own that jacket as a kid
 
@Trasiva I've always been intrigued by custom suits, but honestly, I just go to Macy's and get something mass-designer, then take it to an old lady to tailor
@towc they will not let you in and will probably charge you for missing your reservation
 
you can get this for < $200
 
5:13 PM
You might even be able to find a nice one at a thrift store
 
a decent peacoat isn't expensive.
 
@ssube I don't have any old ladies around here I trust, and the suits I had from London were sharp. I like them better than american style.
 
this is reminding me I need to get my suit drycleaned still.
 
My peacoat was like $80
 
:?
 
5:14 PM
@Nick I got a sweet leather jacket at a thrift store for $35 and it actually fit my arms (length-wise)
 
I have a Guess Peacoat that cost me like $240+tax that doesn't fit me anymore
got it just before I started working out
:/
 
@ssube I used to go to a certain Savers in Maplewood, but it's gone :(
 
@rlemon That's the problem I have right now with a lot of my clothes, I put about two inches on my waist since getting out of the military. I'm trying to get back down so I can fit into my old stuff again.
 
@Trasiva I put on 2 inches in my waist and almost 5 in my chest
nothing fits
I used to be very thin
 
Suck it I was this big when I was 15
 
5:16 PM
it is nice not being an XS but at the same time sucks
I had a lot of nice clothing
 
@rlemon If I drop down to my regular weight in the military, it should all fit again.
 
you could shop in the kids section
 
for the ladies in the room, 5 years ago I could fit into size 26 skinny jeans.
 
@rlemon how I can put on some weight?
 
25 if I sucked it in, and tucked it in.
 
5:17 PM
@Nick ragstock is decent for jackets
@Nick also, if you ever need a tailor: sewsimple.us
 
There's one in the mall, right?
I don't remember which mall, though...
It's been so long
 
@rlemon I had the same problem when I went into the military, I dropped almost 200 lbs to join, and then packed on almost 30 lbs of muscle by the time I left basic, and then another 25 by the time I left tech school. It sucked, haha.
 
I've been gone for 3 years
 
@Nick one in southdale, two in MoA, and one at lyndale+lake
there's also a buffalo exchange at lynlake, but that's more pricy
 
5:18 PM
@Harish Eat more
 
@Harish Take weights, put them on.
 
lyndale is pretty close to work
 
you're always close to lyndale or snelling, but not always the right part
 
@ssube really?
 
lol
 
5:20 PM
@Harish You want to put on weight, start working out to bulk. Low reps, high weight.
Or take the @Nick way and eat tons of McDs.
 
Yup
Actually, back when I was eating Mcdonalds, I was losing weight
Not sure how
my Cholesteral got pretty high, though
 
Because you ate fewer calories than you burned
 
Bulking is gross. High reps, low weight is the best.
 
I didn't start to gain weight until I started consuming an over abundance of beer and not stumbling from party to party
 
I wanna grow up to look like Chris Pratt and be able to do cardio for hours, ifyouknowwhatImean
 
5:21 PM
being an adult sucks.
@ssube fuck you I bulk
 
@ssube You won't gain much in weight going the lean muscle route.
 
I need to lose weight
do I eat nothing
 
@Trasiva lol, I'm already like 195, don't need more weight
 
if I can lift the weight more than 6 times, I need to put on more plates.
 
if I gained weight, I'd be able to accidentally kill people
 
5:22 PM
or fuck it all and eat 50 hamburgers
 
@Nick Calculate your tdee then eat 500 fewer calories
 
only 500?
 
@Nick Start swimming.
 
What if I only eat 500 calories
I used to swim laps every morning
 
@Nick you'll probably die
 
5:23 PM
@Nick eat 2000 calories (that is a good amount of food), but make sure you burn at least 800 doing exercise
 
If you only eat 500 calories you'll probably have lots of loose skin
 
what if I just skip to the end and only eat 1200?
 
If you only eat 500 calories you die
 
If you want to lose weight you'll probably need to be eating close to 1200
 
^ don't listen to her
 
5:23 PM
You wouldn't die ya dingus
 
that is fucking wrong
 
@Nick Average male needs 1400 calories a day if I recall correctly.
 
@Meredith You're a dingus
 
I don't want to lose it too fast and have flaps
 
you burn like 900 calories just breathing all day.
 
5:24 PM
ew
 
Yeah it's called your bmr
 
if you (only) eat 1200 calories a day you are a fucking moron.
 
@rlemon Right
 
Idk if you're joking or not
 
I've heard that eating green things can help, too
 
5:24 PM
If you don't get calories from food, you get it from fat
That's how weight loss works...
 
Is there a service that prepackages 2000 calories a day? I don't want to calculate it
 
@Nick don't calculate it
what are you, wearing uggs and drinking a smoothie?
 
WHY IS THIS COMPLICATED
 
It isn't
 
each approximately a good for you amount of food
then work out
boom, muscles
 
5:25 PM
will I become too sexy for my shirt?
 
if you do it right
 
@Nick work out for 30 minutes before you eat in the morning, drink lots of water, eat less carbs (not none, just less, stay away from pasta and bread) eat a handful of nuts with every meal, and sub fruit for veg any chance you can. in a month you'll drop ten pounds
 
.
 
Just fill that out
 
5:26 PM
@rlemon Depends how overweight he is now, he could very well lose more than that.
 
Set activity level to couch potato and add in any calories you burn separately
 
@Trasiva Dugger isn't obese, just a little chubby
 
@rlemon stay away from pasta??? You serious?
 
You lose 1 pound for every 3500 calories
 
I did have a hamburger yesterday... I caved
 
5:26 PM
> Bread makes you fat?!
 
@Meredith 3000
 
So if you're 500 calories under your tdee every day, that's 1 pound/week
 
@towc pasta is high on the glycemic index
 
3500
 
if you can avoid bread and pasta for rice, you'll be doing yourself a favour.
note: avoid, not ignore.
 
5:27 PM
That's stupid
 
so, I can still eat rice?
 
If you can afford the calories, you can eat it
 
I eat pasta basically every day, sometimes for both lunch and dinner, and I tell you, I'm one of the most well-built people I know
 
lol
 
STOP ARGUING AND FIX ME
 
5:28 PM
@Nick You want to really fix yourself? Go see a nutritionist.
 
@Nick listen to me. I dropped 8% body fat in 5 weeks.
 
Did you fill out the tdee calculator?
 
2 mins ago, by rlemon
@Nick work out for 30 minutes before you eat in the morning, drink lots of water, eat less carbs (not none, just less, stay away from pasta and bread) eat a handful of nuts with every meal, and sub fruit for veg any chance you can. in a month you'll drop ten pounds
 
@Trasiva I've been considering getting a personal trainer
 
@Nick take a knife, slice your belly out, apply duct tape. Done
 
5:28 PM
@Meredith are you trying to kill someone or just working on accidentally doing so?
 
Just subtract 500 calories from that number and you'll lose a pound a week
 
@Nick I got my plan from a personal trainer. He explained it to me exactly how I'm explaining it to you
 
is this about javascript
 
@ssube What the fuck are you talking about?
 
@BjornTipling it can be, if you want
 
5:29 PM
@rlemon Essentially, work out for a half an hour each morning, eat less carbs, drink more water?
 
@Nick you got it
 
@BjornTipling do you have a question?
 
@Nick Personal trainer is actually a good call. @rlemon will probably back me up on that. It'll force you to go to the gym because you pay for it even if you don't show up.
 
@BjornTipling it's also about javascripters
 
gotta work out every day
 
5:29 PM
I'm assuming the workout should be primarilly cardio? @rlemon
 
@Nick Wrong.
 
@Nick depends on what you wanna do
 
no just joined, maybe I could help out
 
I want to lose weight
 
@Nick honestly, doesn't even matter. so long as you are moving
 
5:29 PM
I don't need to be ripped
 
Just run
 
then cardio it up
 
Mine is 5x5 bench, squats, and 45 mins on a bike
 
Don't overcomplicate it
 
just seems totally off topic
 
5:30 PM
overhead and dead lift when I feel like it, which is ~never
 
@Nick For weight loss, go high rep, low weight for lean muscle build. That will will burn extra calories and fat.
 
I'll run for 30 minutes every morning; how bout it, folks?
 
lose some weight, then start building muscle
 
bench, squats, crunches, curls, push ups, and bike are everything you need
 
Just make sure you actually put effort into it
 
5:30 PM
hits p.much ever muscle
 
Don't quit after a week
 
@Purag Sure, but weight loss is more important, and comes first, in my mind
 
I'm no expert, but don't you need to vary workouts?
 
No
 
@Purag it's good to
 
5:31 PM
@Nick yes, but before you eat. then eat normal during the day following the tips (less carbs, more veg, more nuts)
 
You need to give muscle groups some rest
 
2-3 times a week, switching between two different workouts is good
 
But that's not really an issue if you're just running
 
Do I have to actually start eating breakfast? :(
 
@Nick 30 minutes every day this early I don't suggest. Go every other running.
 
5:31 PM
@Nick yes
 
dude yes. life changing
 
@Nick no, breakfast is for suckers
 
It doesn't matter if you eat breakfast or not
 
breakfast starts your metabolism for the day. putting off eating in the morning doesn't help if you're trying to lose weight.
 
Just hit your macros
 
5:31 PM
Breakfast is gonna be the hardest part of this, lol
 
@rlemon breakfast is the illuminati
 
@rlemon That literally couldn't be less true
 
@Meredith lol
 
YOU'RE BOTH WRONG AND RIGHT
 
@Meredith s/less/more/
 
5:32 PM
this is my training schedule: run 12km twice a week, preferably after midnight or before 7am, it needs to be cool outside, alternate from day to day between pushups and abs, do a session before breakfast and one right before going to bed, if you feel useless some days also do it after lunch. Keep track of your previous number of pushups/abs and if you can increment it, do it, but never let yourself do less than the previous number. Also anytime you need to go somewhere in a 40km radius and
 
@Meredith so he should eat 1200 calories a day?? or eat a shitload of carbs???
 
just eat a bit less more often?
 
sweating a bit is not a prob, do it by bike
 
@rlemon He should hit his macros
 
@Meredith I'm wondering if you're just trying to annoy some grammar purist in here
 
5:32 PM
Doesn't matter how he does it
 
you should just stop
 
HAMMERTIME!
 
@rlemon @Meredith thinks he should eat 1200 calories a day, entirely carbs, because that's a macro, and never run or eat breakfast
or that's what I've read so far
 
???
Are you reading what I'
 
internet morning peeps
 
5:33 PM
it doesn't make any damn sense
 
'm saying
Or are you just trolling
 
also, every time the fridge attracts you for no real reason, do another pushup/abs session, eventually you'll lose interest in casual eating
 
Cuz it's getting on my nerves
 
@Nick do you own a blender?
 
Yeah
 
5:34 PM
do you like bananas? and peanut butter?
 
If you're trying to lose a pound a week, you eat 500 fewer calories than you burn each day
Idk why that's such a hard concept for you two to grasp
 
No
 
this program is scalable, so you can start out doing maybe 5 pushups par session if you can't do more, but don't forget to increment it when you can
 
@Nick which don't you like?
 
Bananas are weird
peanutbutter is great
 
5:34 PM
!!s/weird/radioactive/
 
@JanDvorak Bananas are radioactive (source)
 
okay well good thing once you add peanut butter everything tastes like it :D
 
@Nick they are, because they're slimy, but they're good for you
you'll die without bananas
 
Is there a way of having ng-repeat over multiple arrays like so:
li#people(ng-repeat='user in 1starray or 2ndarray | filter:searchText')
 
@feners concat the arrays first?
 
5:35 PM
@rlemon I don't like peanut butter :(
 
@towc cashew butter? pistachio? almond?
 
Peanut butter is pretty calorie dense anyway
 
nut butters in general are good for you
 
you can make peanut butter chicken with only peanut butter, no chicken.
 
@rlemon Are you saying to add bananas and peanutbutter to a blender? What does that even make?
 
5:36 PM
Like 100 calories per tablespoon
 
@ssube the only butter I like is butter, because it's a cousin of good'ol cheese
 
@AwalGarg ... Isn't that just peanut butter
 
@ssube well I need this for an app that will display online user, offline user and all user. These are stored in separate arrays respectively..
 
@Nick protein shake
 
mmmm bananas
 
5:36 PM
@Nick breakfast (easy, and fast) whey protein (1 scoop, w/e that is for the type you get), 2 cups of almond milk, a banana, and a table spoon or two of peanut-butter. This has fats, carbs, proteins, and all the good stuff you want in the morning. Nuts are fatty but it isn't a bad thing, you need some fats. this takes 3 minutes to make and is a healthy breakfast.
 
@feners merge them first, then repeat over them
 
go for a run then drink that shake.
 
@ssube but yeah, let me try that..
 
bleh whey
 
@rlemon they're mostly good fats, aren't they?
 
5:37 PM
@ssube yup
 
I'd rather make a couple of eggs with chopped up broccolli and hot sauce
 
you can probably swap the whey for some other nuts, too
 
Very much so.
Eggs aren't actually that fantastic for you.
 
@Nick yea but this is crazy easy to prepare and drink on your way to work
 
it'll be lower on protein, but not low
 
5:37 PM
I want to lose weight, but I don't want to put in any effort
 
@Nick seriously, if you want to lose weight and have enough willpower, this program is perfect
5 mins ago, by towc
this is my training schedule: run 12km twice a week, preferably after midnight or before 7am, it needs to be cool outside, alternate from day to day between pushups and abs, do a session before breakfast and one right before going to bed, if you feel useless some days also do it after lunch. Keep track of your previous number of pushups/abs and if you can increment it, do it, but never let yourself do less than the previous number. Also anytime you need to go somewhere in a 40km radius and
 
most people don't stick with a diet because making your own healthy food is "hard" and "time consuming"
 
those shakes also taste good and can be made in bulk
it'll last a few days, so you can make a week's worth if you have a pitcher
 
@towc No offense, but a regime for a kid is gonna be different than that of an adult
 
you need to find a good plan that you can stick with essentially for life
 
5:38 PM
True facts.
 
I also cut out fruit juices for the most part.
I still drink cranberry juice.
but that is about it
 
@Nick not in this case
 
@rlemon Great idea, consume 500 calories in liquid form
 
protein shakes for breakfast on the short term...but eventually you gotta know what foods will work for you in the mornings
 
I just dropped out soda and energy drinks from my diet last week. I'm slowly getting healthier... slowly.,
 
5:39 PM
it literally takes you less than 10 mins a day and maybe 1 hour twice a week for the run
 
@Purag almost any breakfast food can be turned into a shake
 
@Meredith listen, talk to any trainer who is trying to achieve for their client when Nick wants and they'll tell you the same thing
I'm not trying to tell him to consume 1200 calories
 
He's trying to lose weight
 
Btw, college started teaching C today. Professor started explaining how C is a "very high level" language and other ones like python and javascript are just macro recording scripts. Then jumped straight into syntax without explaining what programming really means. "you need to add void main so your program runs are you getting me dear?!!?!?". students are like "wtf wtf". I tried "helping" a friend and the way to help was to have him not listen to the professor simply.
 
pretty much everything you say now I'm ignoring because "dumb"
 
5:40 PM
Ok let's hold on a second
Do you know what a calorie is?
 
@AwalGarg That's just terrible.
 
@AwalGarg wait, what?
 
@AwalGarg 0.o
 
C is "very high level?"
 
@Meredith not very relevant to nutrition or weight loss, that's what
 
5:40 PM
how is...?
 
you gotta stop trolling Nick
 
Because I think you have a very fundamental misunderstanding of how calories work
@ssube Holy shit, that's next level stupid
 
I find this all amusing.
 
Like I feel bad
 
calorie counting is pretty important...
 
5:41 PM
You're gonna get so fat
 
My BMR says 2230
 
Ok so try to aim for like 1700 + whatever you burn from exercis
I eat about 1700/day so it's pretty easy
 
@Nick ignore that. shoot for 2000 calories a day but don't sweat it. eat healthy (like I mentioned) and get your workout on in the AM
 
^you need to get a lot of nutritional content out of your food though
no matter how much you eat
 
@Nick that is all you need to do.
 
5:42 PM
eating the right things is way more important than counting calories
 
crazy simple as long as you stick to it.
 
You probably need more protein since you're a guy but other than that it's pretty similar
 
@Purag So my litre of coke a day isnt good?
 
If I can somehow sue that professor in court, I will, for mental torture of 40 minutes.
 
@rlemon has the right of it @Nick.
 
5:42 PM
truth: when eating healthy it is hard to get 2000 calories in you
 
@rlemon Hey, can you pull myself and @Nick into a private chat?
 
@BenCraig coke is nutrition for the mind...or something
 
I don't like private chats
 
coke is nutrition for the taste buds, duh
 
Meredith has me in one now
 
5:43 PM
@Nick Mer is going to likely get you sick.
 
@Nick I want to get some money without doing anything
 
@Nick would you rather count calories and all that crap, or just eat sensibly and maybe do 30-45 minutes of cardio a day?
 
1700 calories is way too low for someone accustomed to far more to jump right into
 
@Neoares same here.
 
@rlemon both?
 
5:45 PM
would you actually keep up counting calories?
because I tried, it isn't fun.
 
but wait, counting calories isn't hard...
 
your life starts revolving around 'ohh but how many calories is this'
 
but I don't think you need to be firm, per se
you can hit, more or less, the daily goal
 
@rlemon So, I'm going to put this out here now because it needs to be said. I was a certified training instructor for the 'fat kid program' in the Air Force. Basically, that meant I had six weeks to get people from failing to passing their six month physical fitness test.
 
@Purag then why bother? eating sensibly should tell me I don't need half a cheese pizza to myself. not that it is 1100 calories
 
5:46 PM
@rlemon Your trainer has the right of it for the record.
 
@Trasiva neat, I bet that was fun and very frustrating
 
@rlemon We NEVER had them count calories.
 
@Trasiva he isn't my trainer any longer :( he got fired for doing work on the side (against contract at this gym)
kinda bullshit
but w/e not my rules.
 
@rlemon right, a mix of both is totally fine, too. you don't eat that much cause it's calories that give you no nutritional value
 
@Purag I am aware of calories, I don't count them
 
5:47 PM
yeah that's all that's important
awareness, a ballpark of what you're getting every day
 
like, Coffee and Pickles have almost no calories. so If I want a pick me up I'll have a coffee and not a sugar fruit drink.
if I want a snack I'll have a pickle, not an apple
 
@rlemon Very much so. Especially if you'd go to the mall and you'd see one of the guys in your program sitting at the local bar eating a fried chicken patty with a double order of loaded fries and on his second pint of beer.
 
ff shipped pointer events in nightly :o
 
I cut down a 10 year old maple tree yesterday and my wrist didn't die on me.
I think I might be ready to go back to the gym. :D
 
@rlemon coffee still has caffeine, which increases the blood pressure more than body weight does
 
5:49 PM
^ I don't drink coffee ever. more because I don't like it
 
I don't care about blood pressure (in this regard) as the increase is benign
of course this assumes I'm not drinking more than 2 cups a day..
 
too many people my age are already caffeinating themselves like crazy
 
@rlemon I've never seen an issue with coffee. It's a life staple for mornings anymore.
 
I used to drink too much coffee and energy drinks. Got an ulcer, that stopped
 
I was never sure if it was the coffee, or the three years of non-stop motrin that did it.
 
5:52 PM
I don't think the excessive caffeinating is super helpful in the long run. it's a highly addictive thing.
 
@rlemon I have an ulcer; gonna go see the doctor next week. It's been a pain in the ass (literally) for the past month or so
but now I don't drink soda or energy drinks, it acts up a lot less
 
@Nick one a day pills.
 
and less painfully
 
it goes away in a month or so
 
Yeah, I do take nexium
 
5:53 PM
i drink sooooooo much water, and almost no soda
at restaurants, I always get water...in rare occasions, sprite
 
a can of mountain dew means an hour on the toilet
 
@Nick I was on pantoloc(?)
did the two month script, haven't had issues since
 
but i'm not that healthy. anyways, @rlemon and @trasivia, you seem like a good source for this info. :)
 
last year I decided I wanted to go on a health kick.
put on 40 lbs of muscle, dropped 10% body fat
then broke my wrist :( still in recovery stage now
 
@Purag Comes from practical use, not online voodoo.
 
5:56 PM
I just want to be healthier; no need to be ripped. I just want to be able to go hiking without getting short in breath, lol
 
@Nick That's a cardio thing man.
 
@Nick same. ironically weight training did that.
 
@Trasiva yeah, that's the plan
 
I'm so wary of online voodoo. relatives of mine have tried every garbage "diet" there is. it's just about consistently eating sensibly like rlemon said and moving every single day.
 
@Nick Running's all fine and dandy, but swimming doesn't put the stress on your joints, and it's a full body workout.
 
5:57 PM
I have crap joints, so running (even low impact) was painful. so weight training is a good way to stay fit and get some cardio done
swimming > running for sure.
 
@Trasiva I did used to swim laps every morning, but I've got a chronic wound on my lower back from a surgery. I don't think I can swim yet.
 
swimming is excellent, and who tf doesn't like swimming? :D
aww
 
@Purag me
I'm bad at it
 
pff
you're not racing
 
@rlemon You're talking to a man that his first two years of the military ran 10 miles every other day until he realized his knees were getting destroyed, haha. I know all about that.
 
5:58 PM
go at your own pace, it's just about getting in there and moving
 
@rlemon yeah, running is awful for your legs. Swimming or biking is way more effective and causes no damage.
 
@Nick Double check, and for the love of god, DON'T START OFF FULL RUNNING.
 
@Purag the only direction I move in a pool is down, usually
 
My rule is: if it hurts, stop doing it
 
you gotta break your comfort zone occasionally
 
5:58 PM
@Nick if you are a picky eater, don't count calories (just be aware that X has more than Y) just make sure to avoid empty calories (calories that come with no nutrition) and you'll lose weight.
trust me.
ohh, and exercise.
 
Nah, I used to be a picky eater, now I'll eat anything
 
exorcise too, if you need it
 
@JanDvorak not unless you know the safe word.
 
then you're just working your body where it can already go. you gotta exert a bit further, and accustom your body to handling more exercise
 

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