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3:00 PM
@corvid You have let but you aren't using ...args?
 
What is args? Is it some special keyword?
 
He's emphasizing the ellipsis, not args
Spread operator, I think?
 
!!mdn spread operator
Yeah
 
...butter
 
3:03 PM
Check that out Corvid ^^
 
function foo(...myArgs) {
    // myArgs is an array of arguments
}
 
scratch that
boss just game me a M500
 
This also works when you have several few other arguments
 
M500...?
 
Oooo, that's pretty cool, thanks for that
 
function foo(a, b, ...other) {
  // ...
}
 
@Callum I applied that to your mom's legs.
 
@KendallFrey Dude, she's..., feel sorry for you bro.
(not dead, just obese)
 
kendall like em thick
 
More cushion for the pushin'
 
3:05 PM
Ah, you'll have loved it, then.
 
@ssube @BenFortune ^^^^
good drive?
I've never had issues with Crucial before
 
SteamOS - Will it run all games from steam, or must they be ported to Linux for them to work?
 
In line chat syntax highlighting!
 
oooo
I should add that to dark theme
 
:o
 
3:09 PM
Woo
 
@Cereal you wrote it?
 
I wrote the userscript
I did not write the syntax highlighting
 
ahh
pleb
 
fite me irl
 
okay
 
3:10 PM
I'll hook u in the gabber m8
 
I'll let you punch me until you get exhausted. then I'll strike
60% of the time, it works every time.
 
@rlemon nice
 
yea, I can't complain. well I can, but not about a free 1tb ssd
 
@rlemon I've seen these have problems
 
I got a new laptop from work, getting it on Sunday
 
3:13 PM
The newer ones are absolutely brilliant though, MX series
 
512 gigs of ssd though, not 1gig D:
+12gb of ram, but overall it's decent, T450S
 
@rlemon I remember the controller being a bit shit
 
user1596138
Regarding our discussion of reverse proxies like Fiddler and how they work...
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum Those things are built like a brick, great laptopts
 
user1596138
I did end up in a state where my browsers were configured to use the proxy yet the proxy wasn't running.
 
user1596138
3:15 PM
Random... But yea, annoying
 
@BenFortune I hope so, it was recommended.
 
@BenFortune I'll probably still buy the Samsung
 
Wow, so just had a meeting. I'm keeping my job for a few months, but they're laying some other people off.
I feel bad now
@rlemon Do it
 
Interesting - Meteor to support Postgres. This changes everything forums.meteor.com/t/an-early-look-at-sql-in-meteor/8736
 
@taco They're supporting ES6 too in their latest build too
 
3:28 PM
@taco they got a fair amount of pressure to actually support real infrastructure
 
@BenFortune but I got that 1tb drive for free.
so I'll probably buy the samsung later
 
It seems like there are no automatic generators for es6 docs that are well documented and reliable :\
 
@corvid nope
 
@rlemon Oh, didn't see that. Noice!
 
yup
boss just gave it to me
 
3:29 PM
@ssube Do you use any?
 
@corvid No. Checked a few months ago and couldn't find anything that works.
 
1TB?
HDD or SSD?
 
There are a few early stage projects to pull comments, but they don't do much yet.
 
@MadaraUchiha ssd
26 mins ago, by rlemon
Crucial

Transformative performance: dramatically faster than a hard drive Nearly instantaneous boot times Ample storage: available in capacities up to terabyte-class Includes top-level hardware encryption technology Advanced controller technology and Micron custom firmware Compatible with PC and Mac systems Extensive quality and reliability testing built into every drive Three-year limited warranty
 
Meteors actually really cool. I just don't feel like learning Blaze
 
3:30 PM
Pulling comments and parsing them into JSON is ideal, so anybody can apply their own docs template.
 
Holy shit, nice!
 
Grats dude
 
@MadaraUchiha yesterday my 500gb ssd crapped out
 
@rlemon how much is that
 
still don't know if I'll be able to recover the documents off of it
 
3:31 PM
@taco Around $500
 
@taco at work we buy ssd's when they go on sale... then sit on them until we need them. This was one of those.
so he payed like $350
how do I re-style chromes scroll bars?
 
military force
 
I've got everything in nice dark themes, and these ugly light scroll bars
but not just webpage, in dev tools as well. :D
halp! urgent!
 
@rlemon no backups, I presume
 
@tereško most stuff was.
 
3:36 PM
did you clone the disk already?
 
not yet
unplugged it last night, was gonna try to recover it, but got drunk instead
 
well, at least you have not used it since then
dd to the rescue
 
yea, that is my plan
still, I'm a lemon, I don't have much faith in the recovery working out
 
clone it, make a duplicate from the clone .. and the rest is matter of trying
if journal is intact, you could be able to recove most of what you need
 
luckily all of my porn was on another drive.
that would have been devastating.
 
3:40 PM
You should just stream it like Abhishek
 
meh, you can always get new porn from torents
 
Ugghhh. Raise a question against an Indian teacher, and they'd be like "fuck you, don't debate me".
 
you both misunderstood me. my porn.
 
I like the "don't challenge mah authoritah" version
 
:D
 
3:40 PM
@rlemon Hahahaha, my bad!
 
@rlemon making your own porn is kinda creepy
 
no, we make it for the story line
the sex is just a bonus
 
@AwalGarg what question?
 
!!should I re-write dark theme in es6?
 
@rlemon Indeed
 
3:43 PM
@tereško The question itself is usually irrelevant
They'll often spout some nonsense straight from a bad resource
 
@SomeGuy wow
 
@tereško professor gave us some random useless year long (literally year long) assignment to do. I asked if this counts for anything in exams, and he replied "Do you just study for marks?". A few minutes before he had said "I teach for the curriculum, and I expect you to study for, and get marks." when I asked how do we define floats less than 0, since the range he gave us for floating values started at something slightly above 0.
 
And if you ask them anything about it, they'll shoot you down because they don't really get it themselves
 
@SomeGuy oth-or-i-tay :p
 
@rlemon Wait, what? Is it not just CSS?
 
3:45 PM
@BenFortune there is a bunch of js in there as well
 
The other day, I was asking a teacher if you should use super.xyz in Java. She told me that you can't do that because super can only be used to call the parent constructor
 
inline webm, user colors, etc.
 
Oh, thought it was a userstyle :p
 
user image
4
@SomeGuy ^
 
She thought that because the textbook she was using never mentioned accessing properties / attributes / whatever
 
3:46 PM
@rlemon Jesus christ, he needs a good backhand
 
@rlemon Nuts
 
> Regards, Adam Hilliker
 
@Callum Shhhhhhhhhhhhhh
 
;p
 
3:46 PM
I wasn't being sexist
 
@rlemon that sounds like the dream letter to write of all my past computer/programming teachers.
 
Regards, some fake person
 
Don't go all tumblr on me
 
@SomeGuy I am starting to get a feeling, that you are being taught by the second generation of "indian IT initiative" //cc @AwalGarg
 
@tereško there is no IT initiative. Just "another way to torture students and take their money".
 
3:47 PM
@BenFortune I'm not, that's Nick's job. Anyway, if you don't know their gender for certain just use they/their
 
We also used to use TurboC as our compiler!
So yay!
 
@Callum no, that's very specifically incorrect grammar. They/their is strictly plural.
 
And our leaders have to show expenses somewhere for all the money they secretly slide into their large pockets, so education is one of the departments for that.
 
@ssube no
 
English doesn't have a good neutral noun.
 
3:48 PM
Welcome to the evolution of language, boys(and/or whatever you identify as)!
 
Historically, he/him was neutral, but then some twat decided women were inferior and needed their own noun, and he became male.
 
@AwalGarg as I recall, there was a governmental support for teaching more IT students in India. Which caused the uncontrolled growth of colleges
 
49 secs ago, by Awal Garg
And our leaders have to show expenses somewhere for all the money they secretly slide into their large pockets, so education is one of the departments for that.
 
@ssube shklee
 
JavaSharpScript++
 
@rlemon that's a pretty good option. It shouldn't offend anyone.
 
@Callum I've seen him somewhere. Was he on Numberphile?
 
@SomeGuy And computerphile
 
Right
 
3:50 PM
I will continue to refer to people based on their scientific, biological selfs. Get over it.
 
@SomeGuy He's also his own thing, lots of great videos
 
@Nick what if you don't know the person?
 
We need to just undo the whole he/man association with male, especially since we don't apply it universally and it's fairly recent.
Since mankind still means everybody, it's stupid that man doesn't.
 
did someone just say...
 
I'll just refer to everyone as 'it'
 
3:51 PM
I dont need to know someone. If they're aman, they're aman, etc.
 
no, @SomeGuy is aman
XD
 
@rlemon it's an idiot
 
Typing on phone
 
@rlemon teehee
 
3:52 PM
@rlemon Hahaha
 
@Callum SJW detected
 
@rlemon No, SomeGuy is a boy
 
idiotic first world problem is what that is
 
@tereško we don't use that word here
 
3:53 PM
what? "detected"?
 
@tereško I try not to be, like really try, but I also don't want to offend :p
 
@rlemon yes. It's sightist.
 
@Callum TRIGGERED
 
@BenFortune Trigger? What are?
 
@BenFortune oh god dammit
 
3:54 PM
> I have a dream that one day this nation will rise up and choose the best framework for the job, despite the color of its logo.
 
Sometimes thetruth hurts; people need to be less whiney about everything, and just libe their lives
 
Detecting things is a micro-aggression by the light-sensitivity-priv-abled.
 
he meant "spotted"
 
@FlorianMargaine that's discriminating against the homocolored
 
@ssube you're a dick
 
3:55 PM
coloured*
3
FTFY
 
I just love how tumblr's version of PC can be used to ruin everything. :D
 
@ssube detection isn't limited to photons you insensitive asshole
 
Tumblr isa disease on humanity
2
 
@Nick that's an offensive thing to say
 
@Nick I think lack of whitespace is a more pressing problem.
 
3:56 PM
@KendallFrey why does everyone credit assholes as being bad. does it work for other holes that waste comes from? can I call you a insensitive peehole?
 
I chose a bad time to quit sniffing glue
3
 
@rlemon yes
 
I've linked this before, but it's amazing: github.com/girliemac/RPi-KittyCam
 
nobody wants to be a peehole either
 
@rlemon dickhole may be more effective
 
3:56 PM
Im typing on a phone. Im sorry im retarded :(
 
@BenFortune AMAZING
 
what is the cleanest way with jquery to check if the event target is from any of the following elements:

div
  span
  a
 
> Johnny-Five
The JavaScript Robotics Programming Framework
All humanity has progressed up to this point - AND IT IS GLORIOUS
 
I am listening from the document
 
3:59 PM
Can you somehow get a reference to an attached listener?
 
@SuperUberDuper use event delegation
 
@SuperUberDuper don't use jQ
 
have to support ie8
 
you can just look at the target
 
@corvid no. Use a named function.
 
3:59 PM
 
20 secs ago, by SuperUberDuper
have to support ie8
 
yeah but the span doesn't have an id
 
new jQuery does not support IE8
 
const $$ = (selector, context = document) => context.querySelectorAll(selector);
 
Eh, I always feel uncomfortable working with .bind for some reason :\
 
4:00 PM
@FlorianMargaine s/the\s\S+\s(\S+).+/no $1s at all/
 
japanQuery
 
switch (e.target.id) {
          case 'baa':
          {
            document.getElementById('#foo').click();
          }
          case '
 
IE8 has less need for support than your mom's chest.
 
i have old jquery
we have thousads of machiens running ie8
 
@corvid .bind is fucking awesome.
so many uses
 
4:01 PM
it is needed
 
@SuperUberDuper then hire a developer
 
@Luggage fucking lame compared to what it should be
 
thousands on ie8?
 
It is, but I am terrible at it. I always get .bind, .apply, and .call mixed up
 
old hardware
 
4:01 PM
@KendallFrey given the current conversation, "XYZ has more support than a SJW feminist on Twitter"
 
cant run chrome
 
bullshit.
 
lol wat?
chrome existed alongside ie8
 
chromes runs on old-ass xp machines
 
not ours
 
4:02 PM
yes
lol
 
there is no excuse for having outdated hardware
 
I'll say again: Bullshit
 
+ we cant get the lockdown ie8 gives us
 
@SomeKittens Microsoft also have a great API for stuff like that (IPC, SPI, GPio, etc) msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/apps/br211377.aspx
 
we all move forward in time at approximately the same rate
 
4:02 PM
if you can run IE8, you can run Chrome.
you just choose not too
 
specs?
 
or your company does
 
benchmarks
my company of course
 
i don't know the extent, but chrome can by deployed on a windows domain and maybe can be locked to some degree
I mean pushed out automatically
 
Though that requires you to run their Windows 10 IoT core OS
 
4:05 PM
wont fly here
 
If you have low specs' hardware, and do stuff in the browser environment -> switch to a decent lightweight linux distro, with a lightweight DM like lxde. You get back all your lockup and no need to look at IE ever.
 
not with that attitude :)
but I feel for you, I've had to support IE 8 before
but no more!! wooooo
ever again, I hope
 
we have windows specific critical software
the money drew me in
its the price I pay
 
corrected to IE 8, I still supprt ie
 
!!afk street meat.
 
4:07 PM
i think companies need to pay to upgrade whatever one piece of software is holding them back. it makes everythign else difficult
its harder to quantify all the other vulnerabilities and extra effort it takes to supprt aging OSes
an inability to upgrade is a liability that should be solved
 
yeah its must be 10k a day of dev time to support ie8
 
is the legacy software in-house or from some 3rd party?
 
3rd party
 
and they don't make a newer version? out of business?
 
but the cost is the hardware mostly
 
4:10 PM
or some sort of "if we make a windows 7 version, we have to get everything recertified" situation?
that happens..
 
maybe
it cant go wrong
 
like with medical software
 
or finance
 
@Luggage a lot of it is ActiveX still
and a fear of local VMs or VDI
 
activeX is how ie6 does ajax
 
4:12 PM
having a couple XP machines on a VDI server somewhere would solve the whole thing
you can firewall the hell out of em
 
how my genius ;)
 
er.. maybe, but you just use XmlHttpRequest, tight?
 
@Luggage not before IE8
 
oh
 
that's why jQ $.ajax was a thing
 
4:13 PM
ah
i still use it :)
crap.. i think i ate too many jalepenos.
it's too late
i'm ruined
 
do I want to get a wrap for lunch or just WFH the rest of the day since my meeting got pushed?
 
@rlemon You should really put syntax highlighting into the dark theme. It's actually way better than just a plain <pre>
 
@Cereal rlemon is afk: street meat.
 
Didn't know rlemon was into that kind of thing
 
@ssube treat yourself to a meal deal sainsburies
 
4:21 PM
wow, people are still using jQuery
 
wow, people are still using angular
 
Where have you been? People abuse the shit out of jquery
 
@Nick mostly for legacy, and are migrating from it :D
 
to react
 
It's the mootools and extjs of today
 
4:22 PM
I end up needing jquery as a dependency for a few things so I use its ajax.
 
reactQueryNGscript
its*
boom
grammared
 
he was right..
 
you weren't
 
"it is the mootools and extjs of today"
it is = it's
 
your sentence
look at it
 
4:24 PM
I don't get the "apples vs pears" thingy. Comparing apples to pears sounds fair to me.
 
ohh, me. durp
 
> so I use it's ajax
PEDANTICISM
 
@AwalGarg apples and oranges is the common idiom
 
that sounds fair as well
 
whats a nice way to check an element has a parent of some element somewhere up the dom path? ie8 :)
 
4:25 PM
Apples are schite, get oranges instead.
 
but you can't compare apples and oranges in many categories, like crispness
 
I like green apples
 
you can have a preference, but they can't be rated against each other.
 
You can have a preference between two things -> they are related.
 
i prefer pizza more than ebola
 
4:28 PM
@Luggage me too! we must be soulmates.
 
(I assume, I never tasted ebola..)
 
well, clearly you've never had my mother's ebola
 
lol
 
Within a callback, how do you know the type of event that was fired? Eg, Cylon._messages.addListener('close', namedFunction), in namedFunction, could you know that it was called by a close event on Cylon._messages?
 
!!define preference
 
4:29 PM
@AwalGarg preference The selection of one thing or person over others.
 
you only know if the event caller passes in some value that tells you
you could always use .bind() to make one up.
 
So... is this when I use bind?
 
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@Luggage Please don't post unformatted code - hit Ctrl+K before sending, use up-arrow to edit messages, and see the faq.
 
function namedFunction(eventName, evt) {
}

Cylon._messages.addListener('close', namedfunction.bind(null, 'close'));
then eventName will be 'close' and evt will be whatever Cylon passes in as the first arg when calling the event.
 
How can I get a list of slack teams I am in from an email?
 
4:46 PM
Hm... what's the most common way to make a server variable reactive to the client?
 
go native
 
never knew home buying could be so nerve racking
 
did you get the taco?
Anyone know any neat DOM api proposals that never made it?
 

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