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7:00 PM
my phones LTE connection is faster :P
 
we have a lousy line from TWC and kinda bad wifi in the office, plus routing everything to our DC and out, and I still get 45/60
 
sometimes I just use that, but I'm almost capped this month
 
btw @rlemon I am downloading a video at 185kbps right now :D we get higher speeds midnight.
 
@rlemon I didn't realize there were people out there with worse speeds than me
 
7:01 PM
@ʞɔᴉN well, this is only at work
 
lel, it actually exists
 
oh
 
NOOOOOOOOO
I DIDNT MEANT TO HIT CANCEL
ASDFASDFASDFASDf
fuckit
I'll dl it at home
:(
 
haha
 
I shouldn't be tying up our bandwidth for Ubuntu MATE anyway
 
7:03 PM
tinder for ubuntu users
 
atleast you don't have to download windows :P
 
I will when I get off my ass and do the 10 upgrade (and they accept it or w/e)
damn icon keeps staring me in the face
 
Can't install it til tomorrow
 
@rlemon you weren't following me on codepen? >:( how dare you!
 
7:07 PM
@towc I don't need to follow you, you're on the front page weekly.
 
haha!
 
attention whore
 
@ʞɔᴉN whore
 
np.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/3dcvps/… Dave Copperfield comments on someone talking about a trick he did. takes 12 days for anyone to notice it was him
 
i am highly offend
 
7:09 PM
@ʞɔᴉN you should :P:
let me be more of an attention whore: today was awesome! Not only I've coded my first css fractal and got 200 followers on codepen, the girl in my picture shared her music playlists (which was just awesome, I've been waiting on that for a long time) and got pretty comfortable with driving in an empty park with obstacles!
 
> shared her music playlists
is that what the kids are calling it these days?
 
no, it's literally just that :P
 
@towc is she your girlfriend?
 
why is that exciting?
 
@MadaraUchiha \o/
 
7:14 PM
@towc css fractal, you say?
 
but pretty much all of the music I listen now is from her. Listening exactly to what she listens is just awesome, the combination of music is the best thing that could happen to this planet
 
Adorbs
 
@Shmiddty a very simple and hacky one, but yup :P codepen.io/towc/pen/QbJNMd
 
@towc that seems just a little creepy there bro
 
No, it's super cute
 
7:16 PM
@ssube it has nothing to do with her. It's the music that is really awesome
I'd likely be still listening to mozart if it wasn't for her
 
oy
what do you have against mozart?
 
@BadgerCat I'd wish
 
@towc well, that's less creepy
@BadgerCat are you sure?
 
box-reflect is cool :D
 
tho Crypt of the Necrodancer soundtrack is pretty great.
 
@towc What's wrong with Mozart?
 
@ElliotBonneville I love his music, but I wouldn't want get caught listening to it
 
Damn fine editing skills in that one
 
@ElliotBonneville mozart is dead
 
@towc :(
peer pressure these days :(
 
7:18 PM
@ssube I haven't seen the body. He could still be alive!
 
!!afk
 
@ssube so is the guy who invented the computer, but you still use that
 
@towc you kidding? Folks will think you're a bit dull, but super classy
@ElliotBonneville I don't listen to them, though. I only listen to things by people who are still alive.
 
user3119231
	window.onbeforeunload = function(){
		document.getElementById(session).remove();
		return false;
	}
 
user3119231
7:19 PM
any reasion why this doesn't work?
 
@ssube that's too bad, I hope none of your favorite artists ever pass away
 
me too
 
@ssube If someone tells me he listens to mozart I'll happily share my love for his music with him, but I wouldn't go around saying I listen to mozart
 
@Maurize what are you trying to do?
 
in any case, her music is just much better
 
7:20 PM
what kind of music is it?
 
@towc Why not? So long as you're not only ever listening to boring stuff, you'll be fine.
 
user3119231
@ssube remove element when window is closed.
 
Listen to some pop punk and some mozart.
@Maurize But all the elements get removed when the window closes anyway.
 
@ElliotBonneville ever heard of HU?
 
mozart is like a musical condiment
nope
as long as you have more other stuff than mozart, you're good.
 
user3119231
7:20 PM
@ssube oh wrong thinking. Let me show you something.
 
@ElliotBonneville youtube Hollywood Undead
 
@towc oh hell no
 
!!youtube hollywood undead
 
no
you went from Mozart to fucking Hollywood Undead?
 
7:21 PM
@ssube they're my favorite
 
you're dating a wigger emo girl?
no they're not
 
@ssube nooo dude... the elements get "removed", but he wants to "remove" them right before unload so the next time the page loads they get loaded faster get it? noob.
 
@ssube that sounds pretty hot to be honest
 
If you want something you should never admit to listening to in public, HU is that. There are places where you will actually get your ass beaten for listening to them.
 
@ssube not dating her... but kinda
 
7:22 PM
That is not a scene you wanna get involved in, trust me.
 
@ssube have you ever been 15 in 2015?
 
HU and that clown band draw a particularly unfortunate crowd and folks may come down on you
@towc they were around when I was 15
 
imgur.com/gallery/rUTMHkS damn, the sauce is powerful
 
physically
 
7:23 PM
I knew a good number of folks who listened to hollywood undead in high school
They tried very hard to act like gangsters and got beaten half to death for it a few different times
 
@towc I will be c: And Hollywood Undead are god-awful...
 
lol not my jam
 
Avoid that whole scene of school shooter music
 
@ssube hey, I'm totally not trying to look like a gangster
I just love their music, that's all
it pumps me when I'm coding and similar
 
that's not some shit you wanna get mixed up in, dude
 
7:25 PM
no worries
 
here is a thought, like what you want
 
hit up some led zep and rush, bro.
 
and don't give a fuck what anyone else says :p
 
at best, it leads to growing up and liking Disturbed and being the weird kid
 
2PAC FOR LIFE
 
7:26 PM
@ssube hey! I don't dislike them
 
at worst, you hang out with the folks who really get into HU and the clown band, and end up smoking meth in the city
 
I like Hollywood Undead
 
I AM LISTENING TO MONTELL JORDAN
COME AT ME HATERS!
 
I actually knew a few kids who got too into that, played hard around the wrong people, ended up pissing off the local real gangs, and were killed for it
it's not a good scene
 
!!tell Loktar youtube this is how we do it
 
@Loktar not sure how useful that is. I don't get too emotionally involved in what the others think, but still being cautious about it feels needed to me
 
!!youtube ride the wings of pestilence
 
throwback hams
 
quick q for all you UK folks, what do you think is a decent daily rate for a contractor?
 
7:27 PM
charge hourly.
$75-$150/hr
 
hmm was thinking that $70 USD = 350 pounds a day, but that's on the low end?
 
I said PER HOUR
 
at 8/hrs a day
 
yea
 
depends on experience. <3 years, $30-50. >5 years, $80+
 
7:29 PM
If you're contracting, definitely charge by hour because you don't get benefits of salary
 
@ElliotBonneville I've only really done stuffs for free, so I'm useless here.
 
Zirak old = $9001+
 
@SterlingArcher and people seem to forget the tax man
 
No healthcare, no paid vacation, etc
Exactly
 
you have to over charge your own taxes
Big Brother is taking 20-35% of that at the end of the year
 
user3119231
 
factor that in
 
user3119231
:D:D:D:D
 
@towc but seriously dude, be careful with the fanbase those bands have. Some really creepy kids get drawn to that. Depending on where you live, it can actually end up being dangerous.
 
usually comes to around 30% for me, @rlemon
 
@towc ssube is right. Don't base your persona off music. Just enjoy the music and be yourself
 
7:30 PM
@Maurize your session management is the tits
 
And ffs don't try to be a gangster. Gangsters die or work at mcdonalds
3
 
var session = Math.floor(Math.random() * 100000) + 999999;
 
@ssube I'm pretty sure he's from Oxford, I assume most of Oxfordshire listens to classical, and there's not really any fanbase for that hu drivel.
 
@ssube in any case, what do you expect people from oxford could do? It's just a huge community of well-intentioned students, nothing to worry about
 
user3119231
@rlemon yeah not the best :D
 
user3119231
7:31 PM
@rlemon auto increment in db better?
 
and as I said, I won't get too much into it anyway
 
@SterlingArcher Fake ones never get to McDs. :(
@towc I have no idea. Didn't know where you live.
 
lol this isn't an after school special
its music.
 
Just know that growing up near Baltimore, there were some folks who got really offended by the HU posers.
 
you guys are talking about bands like they're meth or something
 
7:31 PM
I have a friend who tries so hard to be an Asian Boy gang member... he's always broke, talks so much shit, deals drugs (tries to, owes dangerous people money he doesn't have), has no car, lives with his parents who hate him, and will never amount to shit
 
> Look man I hear the notes they play will fuck you up
 
guys, stop worrying about it 0.o
I just enjoy their music. That's all!
 
be careful dude
 
user3119231
@rlemon the main point - is there any way to delete cursors after window unload?
 
Just avoid the culture their hardcore fanbase has
 
7:32 PM
> I once listened to 2 Alice Coopers, ruined my life
2
 
@Maurize heartbeat - websockets will tell you when a connection is dropped
 
@Loktar oh dear
 
> Alice Cooper not even once.
 
@SterlingArcher wait, and he's your friend?
 
7:32 PM
@ivarni was*
 
I have a past with this guy I'm not proud of
 
wait, are we talking about Disturbed?
 
@SterlingArcher I'm going to be a full-stack developer ( whatever that means ) and work at google while running a splendid and criminal-free life. How about that?
 
because I like that band
 
7:33 PM
I remember hiding in my parent's basement with the window open so they couldn't hear the Alice Cooper
@rlemon no
 
user3119231
@rlemon ah thanks. abudaan.github.io/heartbeat :D
 
@towc work at Google?
 
@towc why not become financially independent and never work full time again?
 
Google is for noobs
Valve or bust
 
^ +1
 
7:34 PM
@Loktar life goal?
@SterlingArcher ok, whatever
 
:D
my dream job is either Valve, or Supercell
 
Don't be a full stack developer, that's not a real thing. Specialize a little bit.
 
@Maurize I meant this: stackoverflow.com/a/7074193/829835 (that post explains why you would want to use them)
 
I just want to work with games
 
The only places that will hire you to do everything are ones that will also expect you to do everything.
 
7:35 PM
Something fun
 
what's a full stack developer anyway?
@SterlingArcher I'm more a research guy I think
 
front end, back end, database, networking
 
somebody who writes server and client code, and everything in the middle
 
@towc ohhh ok
I thought you were talking about things about to happen :p
 
@towc you do UI, client, API, server, and probably some design/UX and networking/sysadmin
 
7:35 PM
@towc I here there are a lot of full stack overflow developers in India
 
it's essentially a one-man product team
 
was going to say I get a 1099 from Google every year so I kind of work for Google :p
 
I also hear a lot of people in India falsify their resumes
 
@Loktar wus that?
 
@Loktar I'll bite, why?
 
7:36 PM
It's like in the olympics they have some people who are average at everything and they compete in like 10 different things
 
@SterlingArcher link required
 
@SterlingArcher oh yeah
 
No link, my old boss had me sit in on interviews and 8/10 lied on their resumes
 
I know a recruiter who gets a call every other week from someone who had a friend translate their resume and the phone conversation
 
And by lied, I mean blatantly, and a lot
 
7:37 PM
unsurprisingly, they don't get jobs when they can't speak whatever language the company uses
 
user3119231
@rlemon simple include this and ready to go?: "We distribute the browser client through our CDN, for free, forever.

<script src="https://cdn.socket.io/socket.io-1.3.5.js"></script>"
 
claiming to have visas is a common one, too
 
@rlemon I love that song
 
@SterlingArcher Did you know I once programmed a general AI to check CVs/resumés for lies, and mine came out clean?
 
7:38 PM
@Maurize how are you doing server->client communication now?
I assumed you were using websockets
@SterlingArcher I had forgot about disturbed
 
@Abhishrek can you verify that people in India lie on their resumes ?
 
now i'm on a throwback
 
@CallumBarclay sauce?
!!youtube korn thoughtless
 
advertsing money @ElliotBonneville @towc
sorry was talking to a coworker lol
 
7:39 PM
I think this video has Jesse from breaking bad in it
 
adsense
 
@Loktar what are you advertising? 0.o
 
@towc titties
 
@towc old zombie site from 2007
used to make half of my income from it
 
7:39 PM
oooh
 
zombie titties
 
I get emails from people occasionally who want to put ads on my site
 
make over 5k a month! lol
 
just. no.
 
@ElliotBonneville omg I get those all the time
 
7:40 PM
@Loktar that's absurd, dude
you've mentioned it before, but still.
 
@Loktar so annoying
 
@ssube yeah it was pretty damn awesome
 
I bet it was tax hell, though
 
what was the site?
 
now I get significantly less
 
7:40 PM
I don't get any. I guess that's how I know my programming skills are worth nothing :P
 
@SterlingArcher yes so much
 
@ElliotBonneville I don't get those at all :( Not that I'd accept, but it'd show that my website has some popularity.
 
was even in PC Gamer magazine :p
but yeah I made it in 2007 and barely changed anything since then
 
I dread the day my taxes move away from a 1040ez form
 
7:41 PM
oh sweet, @Loktar
 
@Loktar tweet about it sometimes! Like once a month?
 
83 people online... in its hayday over 400 at a time :/
 
@uselesschien @argentum47 come to miaou, I have something fantastic to show :D
 
@AwalGarg uselesschien is afk: 7-day ban
 
@tereško yes
 
7:41 PM
awesome
 
@towc meh zombies are dying
2
 
they are taught for 2 months on how to lie on resume, class is known is
 
what happened to uselesschien
 
it was #1 for zombie games on google forever
 
@Loktar -_-
 
7:42 PM
thats where I got all my money/traffic
 
"Resume & Interview Training"
 
now its #2/#3
 
@Loktar pun intended?
 
@Loktar I could get you back up to #1
 
but the overall traffic for the position dropped over 50% anyway
lol yeah pun intended
 
7:42 PM
theoretically.
 
user3119231
okay, lets get started with socket.io :D
 
@ElliotBonneville thanks, but I don't care enough about it anymore
 
ah okey, hehe
 
I spent so much time getting it to #1
 
what'd you do?
 
7:43 PM
@Loktar what ever happened to grapple hero?
 
ever invest in a PBN or two?
 
so many backlinks, content pages targeting the keyword, performance improvements
 
youtube.com/watch?v=jVqBsMgDrWE I forgot how depressing this song was
 
this was all in 2009-2011 mind you
@rlemon we dont talk about that around the house anymore
 
:(
 
7:44 PM
lol actually all the kids ask me about it all the time and berate me for not finishing it
 
as they should
it was a good game
:D
 
!!youtube fall out boy jet pack blues
 
and you have all of that new sexy artwork
 
how bout some not scary music?
 
7:44 PM
!!s/scary/emo/
 
@CallumBarclay how bout some not emo music? (source)
 
no, it's still emo
 
!!youtube all the king's horses two steps from hell
 
@ElliotBonneville That didn't make much sense. Use the !!/help command to learn more.
 
fall out boy is awesome aswell
 
7:45 PM
!!youtube The Wonders - That thing you do
 
@ssube ^^
 
it's just not the show-up-in-school-with-a-backup-full-of-ammo emo like disturbed and korn
 
@ssube totally wouldn't call that emo
 
7:45 PM
Jokes on you guys, @Loktar and I share music tastes sooooo fuck off :D
 
^ +1
 
@towc pop punk was made by and for emo kids
trust me, I was around when emo was a thing
 
I don't think there is much music I dislike
 
hell, I was your age when emo was a thing
 
just have different moods
 
7:46 PM
country
right?
 
I like it
 
@ssube the meaning of emo changed or something then
 
@towc it went from punk to goth to emo to scene to whatever they have now
 
@Abhishrek lo, you have a class for that ?!
 
btw, this is the playlist I'm listening to
 
7:46 PM
jezz
 
@ElliotBonneville darius rucker is one of my favorite performers
 
emo was a lot like scene but not brightly colored
goth was all black and super slow music, emo brought pop punk into the mix
 
@towc that is so not my thing lol sorry bruh
 
good country
 
7:47 PM
it had some color, but they still cut themselves
@rlemon only good country comes from the hank williams family
 
@towc thanks for the tweet :p
 
have you given darius a try?
he's the lead singer of hootie and the blowfish
 
I cant login to my twitter account at work forgot my pass got a notification on my phone lol
 
nickelback is the best band
3
 
@rlemon I actually have heard some of his stuff
 
7:48 PM
@ʞɔᴉN you really are nick dugger
 
he did a few songs on a TV show on time, some talk show
 
there is no denying it now
 
@Loktar won't do much unless the CP guys like Tiffany and RachSmith retweet it, so...
 
@ssube he has such a soothing voice.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cX8szNPgrEs
Seeing them live next week :P
 
7:48 PM
@ssube in his own words, youtube.com/watch?v=27xzJl4tIuU this is his first country song (this is my favorite version of said song)
 
nickelback married avril lavigne and now they're divorced
 
!!youtube avril lavigne complicated
 
I can't tell if this is secure...
 
I know that whole album, pmuch
 
7:50 PM
Avril was my first celebrity crush
 
@Nick right?
skater girls, man
 
Quick! Everyone! What is that one song you don't like to tell people you listen too weekly.
 
#justminnesotathings
 
@Loktar fun fact: towc.eu is not even in the first page of google search for towc
 
@Loktar have you ever listened to After the Burial?
 
7:50 PM
they were the early 2000s equivalent of stoner girls in sweater dresses
 
@rlemon Masterpiece by Jessie J
 
I actually haven't added any google analytics and such to it
 
@rlemon I don't really have one of those songs
 
@Nick that would be Metric
because apparently everyone in MN likes Metric
 
7:51 PM
@SterlingArcher nope
 
checking them out now
 
Eye Of the Tiger, but it's more like. every other week
 
Metric? Like centimeters?
 
but as I listen to this song, I can for sure say that "Let Her Cry" is probably in my top three favorite songs
 
7:51 PM
don't tell.
 
@rlemon Everything Taylor Swift
2
 
!!youtube Metric Black Sheep
 
Jk, I tell everyone I love her
 
@ssube youtu.be/27xzJl4tIuU?t=2m32s tell me this isn't just perfect
 
7:52 PM
!!tell loktar youtube after the burial to carry you away
 
this is a good song
 
@ssube I like it, but I've never been acquainted with them.
 
I bet the music that the most people here would like is probably Punk Goes Pop
 
ew
 
user1596138
7:53 PM
Gotta come into chat and check on @SterlingArcher
 
it combines almost all of our interests
 
Jordan would like it
 

JamExchange FM39.426

Featuring DJ Caprica. Room player: gist.github.com/CS1000/4553...
 
@Jhawins I'm ok :D
 
user1596138
How's it going
 
7:53 PM
don't forget about this room guys
 
@BadgerCat tswift is love, tswift is life
3
 
@Nick false, i hate that kind of rock
It's too... hipster punk
 
It's not hipster punk, it's teen girl punk
 
I still don't like it lol
 
But you like other music that's also generally teen girl punk
 
7:54 PM
Does anyone here have a programming song?
 
@BadgerCat anything screamo lol
 
Mine is Girls by Beastie Boys
 
@OctavianDamiean <3
 
use C
 
7:55 PM
Guys my beard is back and rockin
 
@BadgerCat harry potter theme dubstep
 
@SterlingArcher pics or it didn't happen
 
@CallumBarclay oh yeah! I used to listen to them a lot!
 
If I listened to Beastie Boys at work I'd be rocking out too hard to code
 
7:57 PM
@Loktar omg, I forgot, We Came As Roman's new self titled album came out over the weekend!
I was so drunk I forgot
 
Oh, I should get drunk
 
Now I'm free from uni :)
 
You graduated?
 
No, the semester ended
 
7:57 PM
@towc I like it because Dundee isn't too far away, quite simply.
 
Too bad copy still has an exam tomorrow
 
Don't worry, your life will crumble into barely salvageable shambles eventually
aka post grad
 
I'm free too, I dropped out :D
 
@BadgerCat oh, right! How did machine learning go?
 
7:58 PM
everybody knows dropouts are smarter anyways
 
just to save up for a better school.
 
just look at Zuckerberg right
 
I dropped out, and look how smart I am
 
@towc I hope fine, I don't have a grade yet.
 
fingers crossed
 
7:59 PM
@Nick p smart
 
@Nick I never went, and I'm a fucking moron.
 
Hey ppl. I have an interview with a company for an entry-level JS position. I know to use JS but had not used it in a while and never really got deep into it. During the interview they will ask me about 15-20 questions. Do you think they will be more related to general programming or more related to JS?
 
@Cristian Welcome to the JavaScript chat! Please review the room pseudo-rules. Please don't ask if you can ask or if anyone's around; just ask your question, and if anyone's free and interested they'll help.
 
I just don't want to waste my time on gen. eds.
 
7:59 PM
same ^ lol
 
@Cristian from experience, it will get pretty specific
 
though to be fair I have most of mine out of the way already :/
 
@Cristian Related to JS I assume,
 
But it will also probably cover HTML and CSS
 

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