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6:00 PM
did chat change and break cap?
 
she was fine yesterday,, removed my code 3 times :|
 
FML, cant figure out the small differences.
the question was so simple!
What's your favorite feature of Internet Explorer? Answer: The close button.
 
actually my favorite feature is that it is now evergreen
 
evergreen?
 
6:04 PM
@JoshLeBlanc auto updates to new/future versions
like FF and chrome do
 
Oooh
Neat
Was we talking about edge or IE?
 
IE11 and up isnt it?
 
IE or IE(dge)
I'm pretty sure IE9 was evergreen wasn't it?
 
@rlemon still via windows update, though, right?
 
I know 10 is for sure evergreen
but I thought 9 'technically' slipped in
 
6:06 PM
IE updates only do so much good when you can block them in AD
 
!!urban AD 2
 
@rlemon [AD](http://ad.urbanup.com/876446) Anno Domini, Latin for "in the year of our lord". AD marks the years after the birth of Jesus Christ.

For politically correct reasons, AD is being replaced by [\[CE\]](http://urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=CE).
@rlemon AD Short for the too short-lived show [Arrested Development] formerly on Fox.
 
I give up
 
active directory
 
ohh yea, that thing
 
6:07 PM
many (most?) companies have updates show up in AD and have their admins approve them after a week or two
so they can just block all IE updates
 
Let's all ditch javascript and move to Go
 
Good idea.
 
Go? No. Go is a no-go.
 
I like Go
 
6:10 PM
LETS ALL USE DART! YEA!
 
Only if it compiles to java
 
Dart is a little rusty, no? Speaking of rust, I say we use it.
 
Let's just write everything in godust-script
 
Really?
 
javaskell
 
6:11 PM
GoDustScalaScript
 
@JoshLeBlanc network drive brah
 
That sounds like the most retarded pokemon ever
> I choose you, GoDustScalaScript!
 
@ssube But I'm connected to it and it's mapped ;_;
 
> [syndrome noises]
 
net use disagrees. Well windows, I'm actively copying things to and from the network drive, so screw you
 
6:14 PM
I found a weird JS thing...
so, we know that `[]+{}` = "[object Object]"
and that `{}+[]` = 0;
However, when you put the latter in an array, it changes...
`[{}+[]]` = `["[object Object"]` instead of `[0]`
damn
whatever, you get it
 
!!>[{}+[]][0] === []+{}
 
@JoshLeBlanc true
 
Isn't that because "[object Object]" is just a string?
 
{} is not the same as [{}].
 
!!> [].toString()
 
6:16 PM
@ssube ""
 
well, that explains all of that
!!> {} + {}
 
what
 
@ssube "NaN"
 
GAMES DONE QUICK IS ON!?
 
!!> {} + [], [{} + []] // I don't get it
 
6:17 PM
@Nick ["[object Object]"]
 
!!> {} + []
 
@Nick 0
 
js gods pls
 
It's because
 
!!> +[]
 
6:17 PM
@AwalGarg 0
 
{} is a block. add an array = nothing but 0
 
!!> {}, [], {} + [], {} + []
 
@JoshLeBlanc "SyntaxError: expected expression, got ','"
 
{}+[] --> {};+[] --> +[] === 0
 
oh
I get it
 
6:18 PM
2 mins ago, by Awal Garg
{} is not the same as [{}].
 
var a = 'abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz1234567890.',
    i = 18, j = 0,
    b = [a[i++],a[++i],a[++j],a[--i-1],a[i],a[--i-1],a[++j*(j+j)],a[--i-(j+j)],a[j*j+j]].join(''),
    f = function(x,y) { switch(x){case(1):o=y;break;case(0):l=y;break;} return y; }, o,l,
    c = [a[b](i+j)[0], a[b](i++,i), f(1,a[b](--i-(++j),i-(--j))), f(0,a[b](--i-((j++)+j), (i++)-(--j+j))) ].join(''),
    e = o + l,
    d = c+Array(++j+j).join(e);
console.log(d);
 
don't get it at first, eh? :P
 
oy pus
 
BROOOO
 
6:28 PM
@rlemon I see what you did there
 
o_O sexuality.se in private beta
 
attackhelicopters.se
 
I'm sad, the desktop environment on my RPi is slower than I expected
 
@AwalGarg no, they already released that: tumblr.com
 
lol
 
6:33 PM
@OctavianDamiean IKR
bloody useless
 
I wanted it to be a cheap 'home gym' pc
so I can watch netflix
 
so I'll have to do stuff instead
 
I couldn't even get a DE on top of Raspbian tho
 
X11 forwarding stuff
 
6:34 PM
> It's slow, let's use X forwarding instead
 
I hope that works the way I want it
 
X forwarding is the single slowest thing I've ever seen and I used to be a snailologist
 
I'm going to try Ubuntu MATE this weekend maybe
 
lol, Schools in Florida are allowed to teach satanism
 
@rlemon whats so great about MATE?
 
6:35 PM
I might as well just use it headless the way it was meant to be
 
@ʞɔᴉN it might actually work
 
@ssube faster than remote desktop crap
 
@Nick article?
 
@ʞɔᴉN there's a dedicated Ubuntu Mate version for RPi that has supposedly been optimized
 
6:36 PM
@AwalGarg RDP and NX are both way faster. Even VNC tends to be faster than X forwarding.
 
@Nick So basically there's no law against it, then.
 
Raspbian doesn't like me
 
ugh pi
is there any practical purpose to the rpi?
 
@CallumBarclay Yes, but you know, media, news, republicans, etc.
 
or is it just something to play with
 
6:37 PM
@ʞɔᴉN is there a practical purpose to arduinos?
they are fun
fun is practical
 
@ssube RDP works in linux?
 
@AwalGarg it can be rigged to, but NX or VNC are better choices
 
the only issue I have is that I hate developing node on Windows, Virtualbox is not really an option at the moment because Atom is slow as fuck and there's a webkit bug on Virtualbox instances of Ubuntu rendering it it useless
 
@OctavianDamiean dual boot?
 
@OctavianDamiean vmware, player if you need free
 
6:38 PM
I haven't had issues with Node on windows
 
vmware is way faster than vbox anyway
 
@rlemon need to be on windows
 
@OctavianDamiean get a second pc
 
@rlemon sort of
 
@ʞɔᴉN not really. prototyping maybe.
 
6:39 PM
arduino is good for prototyping
 
but you're not putting an arduino into production ready products.
 
@rlemon that was the idea behind my RPi but yea, I'll have to look for an alternative :)
 
@rlemon mm, who says? :)
 
If you really want an impractical board, try Tessel
 
@ʞɔᴉN the same can be said about the rpi
 
6:39 PM
Build a computer on a breadboard. Much more fun.
 
a practical embedded pc is the beagle board/bone
 
@rlemon perhaps, not sure what you would use it for though
 
beagle is a bit pricey though.. good for prototyping
 
@ʞɔᴉN home automation. :P you have a nice GPIO
 
6:40 PM
I'll make a computer out of html
 
so my RPi will be a staging server instead
 
@ssube never used (heard of) NX. I like VNC though.
 
@OctavianDamiean I'll be using my rpi1 as a controller for my greenhouse
 
and the rpi2?? no clue yet
 
6:41 PM
interesting
 
@AwalGarg @uselesschien @SomeGuy ^
 
@AwalGarg NoMachine cross platform rdp
 
@rlemon would the arduno be less practical for this?
 
@ssube yeah just reading about that
 
it's the fastest I've seen after actual windows 7+ RDP
 
6:42 PM
@ʞɔᴉN the rpi is the controller for the controllers. the arduinos are acting as individual modules
I will need to get air temps, moisture readings, wind speeds, etc.
 
@rlemon oh
 
arduino nanos (what I prefer) don't really have enough power and memory to do anything large scale
 
yeah true
and it's not really fun to write larger programs
blinky light is the most advanced I got to
 
plus solenoids, sensors, relays, etc. all cheaper as 'add ons' for arduino on dx.com
 
add ons?
i'd just buy em as discrete parts and hook em up to a motor shield or whatever
 
6:44 PM
"arduino compatible"
 
right
 
for the extra $1 I get a nice package.
 
Pfft hardware
I fried 2 cpus by not putting rubber nibs between my mobo and the case
I avoid hardware now
 
the main 'technical' challenges are a) controlling the vents / fans relational to the sunlight and windspeed/direction. b) measuring moisture and controlled waterings.
and even those are pretty simple
just need to figure out a neat way to pull it all off.
 
@JoshLeBlanc lol you need to do that?
 
6:48 PM
When the case isn't painted, it's metal on metal
 
pretty sure on decent mobos/cases they have little plastic rings around the screw holes
damn
 
So it'll short the whole system
 
even if it is painted it could short though
 
I figured that out recently actually. Was laying in bed when I was like "I wonder if the inside is painted"
 
the case should be your ground - shorting on the case shouldn't fry anything.
 
6:48 PM
haha
 
@ssube seems to have encryption as well, very nice
 
and lo and behold, the reason for my wasted money
 
yeah true.. generally there are contact points between case and mobo for grounding
did you check your CPU socket? maybe you fucked up some pins
 
Nah, it worked fine in the other case
I was bored and felt like trying to squeeze the system into a smaller case
a Node 304, I think
 
oh that's fractal, those are quality
 
6:50 PM
Yeah. I put in the mobo, tried to fire it up and got the same problem I had with my other computer.
Which used to be in that case
worked for 4 months, then stopped
Didn't really consider it was the cases fault
It was sitting in my apartment for a year, and I brought it home a couple months ago. Figured I'd throw my current on in it. Poor choice
 
that blows
 
@AwalGarg it uses an SSH tunnel, so no weird VNC-style ports or anything
 
decent PSU?
 
Corsair, 700w
 
@ssube how can it support windows then?
 
6:53 PM
@AwalGarg iono, magic
I think it can use SSH but also do it's own thing, but operates on a single port either way
unlike VNC's port per session nonsense
 
yeah maybe it falls back to some windowsy thing when no ssh
 
le sigh
I hate my work connection
2 hours to download 900 meg
I feel like @AwalGarg
 
wait... 2 hours and you "hate" it?!
 
that is uber slow for me
I'm downloading at 90KB/s
:(
 
can you email me your office connection pls? kthnx.
 
6:58 PM
jesus. Where is your office, the Mars version of India in the past?
 
@ssube at work, speed test, 9 down, .4 up
SAME PRICE at home
speed test
140 down, 50 up
we wanna switch but there is only one ISP with lines in my works area
so we're fucked
infrastructure is old and crappy here.
 
shit
 

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