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3:00 PM
yes, so?
no... classes implement interfaces
 
That's what I meant xD
 
I just used the interface signature for the argument, I am not sure what you are confused about in it :/
 
Ohhhhh
I thought you were implying that it works
 
you don't see the error below?
:P
 
Yes, but you said it's your use of interfaces
I thought you meant it literally
Which is why I was so mindfucked
 
3:02 PM
...
 
does this make it more clear about what I meant?
 
Aye :)
 
Hi, I was looking to moove a div to body and find a solution here : stackoverflow.com/q/2990265/3703099 but does this solution really move the div ? doesn't it add a copy of it to the body ?
 
What's the EPL you're using?
 
3:04 PM
my own fork of phpepl
github.com/awalGarg/phpepl
 
I like it :>
 
@BenFortune read the list of changes :P
> Removed dependency on jQuery
 
@BenFortune
 
I got confused because I thought Zirak was pinging me with random shit
 
oh, it pings you too?
 
3:07 PM
Always check the moustache to ensure it's a real Zirak (but be careful to Mexican imitations)
 
^
indeed
 
is there no way to replace a single object in an array of objects with js?
 
Can I make ST3 run gulp things for a ctrl+b?
 
@corvid can you make your question clearer ?
 
@corvid Of course there is :)
 
3:09 PM
!!tell corvid mdn splice
 
or... just replace with indices
 
_.findWhere(myCollection, { i: 3}, /** replace this object's 's' with 'current' */)
 
but doing it the stupider way is funnier
 
array.object=1
nailed it
 
3:10 PM
But that's an object and not an array
:p
 
shet
true, you do need index or splice :D
@BenFortune thx, I misread
 
@Neoares what is that orange indicator in the tray, if I may ask?
 
Looks like avast
 
avast
 
oh nvm, findwhere has a callback
 
3:19 PM
Hi all
What does everyone here think of a 100 column grid system?
 
too many columns
 
jarvis
 
@Luggage They basically want it so that they can set percentage of any column... like col-sm-34 === 34%
 
responsive?
 
5% increments sounds better
Can't imagine why you'd need it to be so precise
 
3:22 PM
@BenFortune Yea...
 
yea, that's col-sm-4 in a 12-column grid (33%)
 
@Neal doesn't Ionic do that?
 
How do you split in 3 ? 12 sounds better. If you need so much precision, take 60
 
#jusySaying
 
@rlemon thats just what bootstrap does, no?
 
3:24 PM
if only i could depend on flexbox.. :(
 
no
!!caniuse flexbox
 
@Neal it looks like this one has an additional feature: it breaks on IE
 
@rlemon what does the bold row represent?
 
flex is fantasticly powerful.
 
3:25 PM
@Neoares bold row?
outlined?
 
better :)
thanks
 
@dystroy ha
 
yes I meant outlined row xD
 
idk 100 columns seems to high for me
 
looks like the 'works in all versions' row
 
3:26 PM
current browsers
 
I have firefox 37
 
nvm, that is "current aligned"
 
easy rep, for who wants it:
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Q: difference between a.equals(b) and array.equals(a,b)

Daniel CohenI have run this small program: String[] a = {"a","b"}; String[] b = {"a","b"}; if (a.equals(b)){ System.out.println("woop"); }else{ System.out.println("doh!"); } if (Arrays.equals(a, b)){ System.out.println("woop"); }else{ System.out.printl...

(I'm sad)
 
wow, the rep hunters are fast
 
3:28 PM
6 answers in 60 seconds, lmao
 
In search of: a good duplicate for "console.log-ed objects report their properties as they exist at expansion time, not logging time"
 
I miss languages that only have == and it means "actually for real equals"
 
It's sad that pasting from the obvious documentation looks like the thing to do here for so many users, even some with more than 1k... — dystroy 1 min ago
 
@dystroy an 18.4k user answered it -_-
 
3:29 PM
-6
A: difference between a.equals(b) and array.equals(a,b)

TEXHIKjava equals method based on comparing strings, get by toString() method. And it will return a hashcode for arrays.

wow
 
wth
this guy smokes hard
need 125 rep to votedown, damnit xD
 
I've used Java for about an hour and that looks wrong even to me
 
I've never used Java but I just followed @dystroy's comment and googled to see the docs.
 
!!urban damnit
 
@Neoares damnit The retarded cousin of the word "[dammit]."
 
3:31 PM
kek
 
@AwalGarg how have you never used Java? How can anyone develop and never run into Java?
 
@ssube They're saints
 
@ssube well... I wrote hello world in java once
 
@ssube Because the sane ones use C#
 
@Neoares What are you doing here ? Look at jquery questions until you get 100 points
 
3:35 PM
@BenFortune Sane developers use C# and sane sysadmins refuse to run Windows, so we'll always be at odds.
 
Not for long hopefully
With the direction that Microsoft is going in
 
I'd recommend a warm bath :-) — Nifle Aug 25 '09 at 8:57
 
I wanna make a Skype client
Good excuse to play with Electron and React
 
3:54 PM
found a site that shows you how many twitter followers are bots.
anyone remember the guy who made the youtube video "node.js is terrible and if you use it so are you" (or something like that)
59% of his followers are bots
:D
 
still has 12k "legit" followers though, pretty crazy
wonder if he started out buying them (thats why he has so many bots) and as a by product got real followers
 
@rlemon lol
 
I have 1 fake follower
 
@Loktar or the bots are getting better
> Each audit takes a random sample of 5000 Twitter followers for a user and calculates a score for each follower. This score is based on number of tweets, date of the last tweet, and ratio of followers to friends. We use these scores to determine whether any given user is real or fake. Of course, this scoring method is not perfect but it is a good way to tell if someone with lots of followers is likely to have increased their follower count by inorganic, fraudulent, or dishonest means.
 
wut? I have 32 fake followers?
 
4:03 PM
yeah I've had those types of things flag friends of mine who just dont tweet often
 
Bots don't bother following me. Is that good ? ^^
 
@rlemon actually, MadaraUchiha is right.
It's not about circumventing multiple inheritance, PHP has mixins for those. The answer is either old or misguided or both.
 
8 hours ago, by Benjamin Gruenbaum
http://mrale.ph/talks/goto2015/
Really solid talk
 
yeah
 
4:15 PM
@BenjaminGruenbaum Any idea? stackoverflow.com/q/30220226/1420197
 
Also, much funnier than his old ones, he's getting better at presenting. I remember his English from 3 years ago.
Stuff like mrale.ph/talks/goto2015/#/146 is clever :)
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum I see you're back on GitHub. :) What did they reply?
 
Yeah, io.js have much better github, some people there involved with the org noticed my issue was gone so they called GH and sorted it super quick. I got a response myself only after a day.
@IonicăBizău listen to signals.
Although really, why would you wait for it?
 
I saw someone on twitter complain that there are no women on the iojs board
 
I mean, why are you doing this @IonicăBizău ?
 
4:20 PM
From my testing, if I close the parent process when the child process is not yet started (???), the child process is killed as well.
 
@NickDugger sure there are, I can name 3. Although to be fair idiots get kicked regularly on IRC for being disrespectful.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum When I close the process after one second, it works fine. So, what is the signal I need to listen to?
 
Are favicons cached or something?
I removed references to it in my html but it's still appearing, even if I link.remove()
 
@SterlingArcher yes, you have to clear the chrome favicon and bookmark cache to remove them.
(something similar for ff too, but don't remember)
 
Is there a way to do that programatically? :/
Or will re-setting the favicon to "original" be the only way around it? (currently I have a "new update" alert and no original
 
4:25 PM
Yay, I've rewritten the first, tiny, chunk into ES6! Our architect said to test it out in one place first, and now it's done (and no globals, @BenjaminGruenbaum )
 
which "original" one?
 
hola chicos
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum link to the old one? ^_^
 
@NickDugger awesome.
@AwalGarg this isn't the old one, but it's the same topic: mrale.ph/talks/lxjs2013/#
 
@NickDugger lol
yeah right
 
THE
4:42 PM
we all know about tutorial videos but what am really after is someone developing real life projects videos, anyone know any ?
 
@Shmiddty are u there ?
 
maybe
 
posted on May 13, 2015 by Alex R. Young

TJ Steps Down Timothy J Fontaine has stepped down as the leader of the Node project: Given the strength of its community, I'm confident that Node.js is heading in the right direction. With that said, it's time for me to step back. The formation of the Node.js Foundation

 
@THE people actually writing code don't have time to film it. You're thinking of startups.
 
THE
million of videos are uploaded everyday, bet someone would uploaded some
 
4:44 PM
@THE you can probably ask someone for a pair programming session
 
THE
@AwalGarg not that easy
 
@THE what you're really after is actually coding.
 
Pick something and go with it, come to chat in a week with a prototype
 
thinkful.com has mentors for $300 - $500 /month
 
THE
4:45 PM
@BenjaminGruenbaum yes,, but i don't learn by tut, i want to see big projects getting done
 
or maybe follow the IRC mantra of RTFM. If the manual doesn't make sense, you have a knowledge gap
 
the more code you write, the more... well, just write more code.
 
@THE you don't need a tutorial, you need to stop doing what it is you're doing and start writing code.
 
THE
@AwalGarg haha am coding for last 5 years and am shit at it
 
@THE holy shit dude you are coding for 5 years??
 
4:46 PM
We had a guy in the PHP room the other day trying to use a PHP framework. He didn't know PHP
 
@taco not an uncommon thing to see, actually ;)
 
THE
@AwalGarg yup, i am certified sharepoint solution expert too
 
That's a great way to spin your wheels and burn out
 
@THE ...
 
THE
4:48 PM
:)
 
@THE if this is your level after 5 years maybe programming just isn't for you.
There are lots of things that aren't hardcore programming you can do and be good at.
 
sharepoint doesn't count as real programming any more than PHP does
 
THE
i developed many projects but am just not happy with them
 
QA is nice, there is a lot of IT work that can be interesting, and so on. Or you can try to get a more fundamental understanding by getting a degree and trying your luck again.
 
THE
you want something i will develop it for you
 
4:49 PM
Possible to change placeholder color for a textbox? The background must be white to match the scheme and chrome sets placeholder color to light gray, so fades away.
 
If you have been coding for 5 years and this is your level, clearly it will not work.
 
THE
but my code stinks
 
Go do codeschool or hackademy or something
 
THE
i already konw what they teach....
i just don't know how to put that to practice
 
4:49 PM
or just read up on idioms in your language and figure out what they're good for
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum So, which is the signal I need to listen to?
 
@THE you need to pick a project
For example I wrote HaloSpy because I wanted to solve a problem with the first Halo PC game
I wrote audiodisco, because I wanted to find indie music on blogs
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum umm... maybe that's not the way. iunno
 
I had no idea what I was doing I just did it
 
THE
@taco exactly you are right
 
4:55 PM
The projects that make you a better developer are the ones you treat like art. Be passionate about the subject and obsess over every detail to make it perfect. You'll find a lot of patterns and idioms start to make sense as you go along, and don't be afraid to erase everything and start over.
 
which reminds me, for a while I am writing less code and just reading a lot of things about programming - trying to grab "knowledge". what to do :(
 
Granola is the best things humanity has ever invented
 
!!s/humanity/white people with dreads/
 
@ssube Granola is the best things white people with dreads has ever invented (source)
 
@ssube I don't see how the dreads come into play
 
4:59 PM
Granola is the demesne of damn dirty hippies.
 
@ssube Granola is freaking delicious
I don't know who you think I am, but I'm definitely not hippy :P
 
I know. I'm not critiquing granola, only its origins.
 
@MadaraUchiha go hug a tree
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum That's Hashirama, my arch nemesis, he's the tree hugger
(literally)
 
damn animes
 
5:00 PM
@MadaraUchiha It's a made up character from a cartoon, damn hippies.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum That's rarcist
Also
 
@MadaraUchiha rarcist = winrar in-family porn?
 
@ssube What do you have against my local supermarket?
@BenjaminGruenbaum Totally
!!urban rarcist
 
@MadaraUchiha No definition found for rarcist
 
This needs to be a thing ^
 
5:02 PM
It is
 
g'morning
 
firefox has been importing my history for past 2 and a half hours
which is mostly porn tabs and msdn
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum Oh, I would have thought it was being biased against .tar.gz files
 
5:17 PM
Don't think this has been posted recently: maximumcompression.com/data/summary_mf.php
Remember kids: RAR is ok, 7zip sucks, but neither really compresses things.
 
Goodmorning
 
@ApathyBear great morning my amazing friend
 
Nes Cafe, not even to sound snooty, taste/smells like roach sh!t.
It's quite fascinating really
 
@Neoares That doesn't have any useful languages, so I'll go with Javascript is not a real language, learn C++
 
5:28 PM
@copy but JavaScript is a real language, is it not?
 
It's a toy language for designers
 
Hrmph. Anyone here familiar with iron:router? Got a quick question from this code sample... what's the best way to manage this in JavaScript?
 
@copy lol
 
Apr 5 at 20:09, by Awal Garg
JS is till now the best toy language I have used...
attested
 
> KANYE WEST lyrics are property and copyright of their owners. "Mercy" lyrics provided for educational purposes and personal use only
@GNi33 ^ Mercy --- for educational purpose ( azlyrics.com/lyrics/kanyewest/mercy.html )
 
5:35 PM
You shouldn't be allowed to own things you can spell, so kanye shouldn't be allowed to own anything.
 
http://www.commitstrip.com/en/2015/05/13/the-main-issue-with-autonomous-cars/
CommitStrip - Blog relating the daily life of web agencies developers
The main issue with autonomous cars
CommitStrip
1431538555
 
@ssube lol
what educational purpose can mercy service, except for how not to write a song :o
 
@SomeKittens tar.gz is for losers
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum rarist.
 
@darkyen00 Mercy serves no purpose but to undermine natural selection.
Mercy is weakness (the attitude I take when doing code reviews)
 
5:47 PM
You need some mercy or else the entire humanity would get wiped out.
 
Mercy is for after the build completes successfully.
 
Think about the 0.1% of human population that is actually worth keeping around
 
What are you guys thoughts on Vim? Does anyone here use it ? Worth learning, etc?
Emacs?
 
I've been using Vim for years. Then Internet finally came around and I looked up the way to shut it down.
 
@ssube the song.
 
5:50 PM
@JanDvorak Is there a tough learning curve? Why do you use it over Emacs? I just realized that was partially a joke.
 
Emacs at least has a sensible way to close it.
Vim does have a steep learning curve. But it's very powerful, in the same sense that APL is very powerful.
 
every time someone mentions emacs, I have to make the same joke
if emacs is so good, then why did steve jobs invent osxmac
 
@ApathyBear the basics aren't bad but are incredibly unintuitive.
you'll need a cheatsheet open for the first week. After that, since everything is home row key chords, it turns into muscle memory
 
@ssube Do you use it daily? I am curious if it will actually make me significantly more productive in the long run
 
yesterday, by Zirak
I made a thing: https://gist.github.com/Zirak/9999e97e01a7bd0a76f6 (list of editors). Please add stuff.
 
5:57 PM
@ApathyBear yes. I thought I still used other editors, then realized I haven't touched anything else in months.
 
@ApathyBear There are exactly zero editors that will make you more productive over other editors in the long run
 
vim's power is in text editing without piling a bunch of magic on top. You can indent multiple lines, add a prefix (like //) to lines, delete multiple lines, etc.
 
Y U NO ONEBOX?
 
@ssube as long as you know the right magic incantations, that is
 
It shows matching parens, does basic syntax highlighting, and that sort of stuff.
 
5:59 PM
@ssube I've never heard of a full-featured (read not-gedit) editor that couldn't do all of those things.
 
You can also autocomplete within the file.
@SomeKittens most editors don't have a hotkey for delete-line, or don't advertise it
 

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