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8:00 AM
@dystroy what do you mainly use?
 
morning
 
@royhowie io.js of course
 
@dystroy oh, I've seen this
it just simplifies the use of the --harmony flags
 
No, really not. It goes far further. node.js is just too far behind regarding V8 versions integration
 
but differentiating between them feels almost as pedantic as differentiating between HBO now and HBO go
 
8:04 AM
Real men use luvit! NodeJS-family is old man!
 
@dystroy unless you're actually using it in prod
 
@royhowie I was half joking of course
 
@RoelvanUden love2d.org
 
@phenomnomnominal Of course I use io.js in prod.
 
@dystroy On miaou?
 
8:06 AM
@phenomnomnominal yes, and in some closed source projects in my company
 
we're gonna use node 0.10 in some public projects at my company
 
@dystroy I'll maybe use it on my next project (but it'll hardly matter since it's just a restful api I'm building on node for ticket sales)
 
But there is no way I'd be able to convince them that io is stable
 
@phenomnomnominal You realize the latest version is 0.12.x, right?
 
@MadaraUchiha Yep
But it's unreliable as fuck
 
8:08 AM
@phenomnomnominal and you may convince them nodejs is stable ?
 
@royhowie I know this :-) I was only joking though, JS simply has a better ecosys
@phenomnomnominal Unreliable how?
 
Node is 7 years old. I wish that wasn't a factor, but it simply is
I've had lots of issues with npm modules just not working on 0.12
 
@MadaraUchiha hey
Remember when you said Atomic Coding?
might not be good or fit SE?
 
@phenomnomnominal iojs is the same code but with updates and bug fixes. You may say it's older as it wasn't frozen
 
@Cinch Yeah
 
8:09 AM
@RoelvanUden I understood; "luvit" just reminded me of that website (which I recently came across)
 
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Q: Why Atomic Coding Is Not Stack Overflow

CinchProposal: Atomic Coding Stack Overflow is a general programming Q&A website reserved for only programming. Atomic Coding is a programming learning Q&A website dedicated to answering frequently-asked programming questions with minimal, compact, extremely digestible answers, modeling the Socrat...

 
@dystroy Yeah I'm well aware. People at big companies are scared though
 
@royhowie It's actually kind of cool, as it Luvit. But yeah, small ecosys :P
 
@Cinch Would you please stop posting it here?
 
@Cinch I think you have the problem backwards.
 
8:09 AM
@Cinch I learned how to program with stackoverflow…go and witness my horrible first questions
 
People post crap on Stack Overflow precisely because they can't be bothered to search and learn
 
@royhowie So did I. I got question banned FAST.
 
We're looking at up to 200,000 simultaneous socket connections. Their perception is that node is safer and that more people have experience in it.
 
@Cinch okay, then my questions weren't as crap as yours
 
I'm wondering if you can get q-banned on A51
 
8:10 AM
Not once and not twice have I directly copy/pasted a person's question into Google and found a good answer in the first result.
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@royhowie There is a need to cater to programmers who cannot even formulate a proper question and need guidance before they can reach that state.
 
@Cinch debatable
 
@Cinch But that place is not Stack Exchange.
 
if they can't formulate a proper question here, how will they formulate it on atomic coding?
 
Stack Exchange is a Question and Answer site, you're expected to know how to ask a question, in order to ask a question.
 
8:11 AM
@Cinch uh, why?
 
plus, learning is all about stumbling and getting back up
 
@royhowie Because Atomic Coding is proactive in its Q&A format. Remember that "share your knowledge with your own answer" option?
That's Atomic Coding, in essense.
 
No. Those are self-answers
 
@Cinch what's stopping you from posting your tutorials on Stack Overflow as self answered QA?
 
@JanDvorak this
 
8:12 AM
@MadaraUchiha Because they do not fit the format.
 
@Cinch they do stackoverflow.com/questions/25943488/… (I did one, with a tepid reaction)
 
@Cinch I have about 8000 rep I gave away to such answers that say differently.
 
@royhowie That question is downvoted. Why?
 
@cinch idk…I didn't downvote it
 
Now it's at 0; got my upvote at least :p
 
8:13 AM
@royhowie Neither did I, but someone in the community feels that way. Why?
 
Because idiots are everywhere.
 
@Cinch Because they're idiots.
 
@Cinch There's tons of sites that do, coursera etc, it doesn't fit on SO though
 
Atomic Coding is also suited towards beginners in its format to turn general thinking into specifics.
 
!! whois @canonical
 
8:14 AM
@argentum47 "SyntaxError: illegal character"
 
@ivarni Exactly! That's why I proposed Atomic Coding!
 
@argentum47 That didn't make much sense. Maybe you meant: whoosh
 
And I've rewritten the proposal as well!
 
@Cinch You mean Q&A like this? stackoverflow.com/questions/12769982/…
 
@Cinch it's +2/-2; it was downvoted when I first posted it, not sure why
 
8:16 AM
now that you've properly annoyed me by your persistence, here's a downvote for your proposal
 
@Sheepy Perhaps. But this category of question is much different than your usual answer.
 
@Cinch Like prototype inheritance?
 
@Sheepy Much more basic.
 
@JanDvorak meh, that's hardly fair; you should ultimately vote on merit
 
i.e. My model question was "What are and why should I use C++ smart pointers?"
 
8:18 AM
@Cinch Stack Exchange works by attracting the experts of a topic together using interesting QA and discussion
 
@Cinch but the problem is that that question is too broad
 
You're proposing a site that's deliberately made for newbies, not for experts.
 
@royhowie also a great reason to downvote this proposal ;-)
 
and how can you possibly hope to answer such a question?
 
No one, and I mean no one likes a site that's full of noobs
 
8:19 AM
@royhowie Because smart pointers were designed to solve specific problems.
 
Even noobs don't like sites that are full of noobs
 
@MadaraUchiha Doesn't matter what you like, it's what the community needs.
 
@Cinch Of course it matters what we like!
 
Nobody likes beginners in other professions, but there are no future masters without training.
 
If experts don't like it, they won't participate, and if they don't participate, you have no site.
 
8:20 AM
@MadaraUchiha exlpain Yahoo answers
 
Not everyone likes to teach, but it is necessary.
 
it's sort of like asking someone to take on a part-time teaching job with no compensation
 
(Or you have lots of newbies pretending to be masters)
 
@JanDvorak I have yet to see someone saying they genuinely like Yahoo answers
Have you visited there recently? It's complete crap.
 
@royhowie Sounds like SO to me :-(
 
8:20 AM
@MadaraUchiha have you asked there?
 
@Sheepy SO is NOT supposed to be a teaching job. It's supposed to be a cooperative community.
 
@JanDvorak I have.
 
@Sheepy but stackoverflow provides compensation through engagement
 
Was active there and on Answers.com before Stack Overflow.
 
@YahooAnswersTXT
Questions we can all relate to, real unedited questions from @YahooAnswers
4k tweets, 31.5k followers, following 8 users
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8:21 AM
@JanDvorak that's gold
 
can i Control the darkness inside me.?
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Oh my god that is incredible.
 
So many different opinions...
 
What's the deal with 4-20?
 
@JanDvorak eventually, a site like Yahoo Answers is only seriously good for the humor.
 
@Sheepy Atomic Coding would also not be opinion-based
It would aggregate evidence that a certain question deserves a beginner-friendly canonical in a teaching format and use the Socratic method to frame the knowledge.
It makes for a natural learning process.
 
8:23 AM
@Cinch That's great for a blog, or for canonicals on Stack Overflow. But a site that's just that will have a hard time finding long standing contributors.
 
@Cinch I smell a big problem, when you say you will provide something not opinion based to the newbies, on SO.
 
@Cinch you can already do this on SO with canonicals
or just with self-answered Q+A
you're free to write your Q+A however you like, so long as it reasonably follows the help center guidelines
so writing a canonical on "smart pointers in C++" is perfectly fine; you just have to make sure you have an actual question with an actual answer
 
@royhowie good point.
 
@royhowie And as long as it wasn't asked before
 
Can you write this to sufficiently definitively close the proposal?
 
8:25 AM
And what do you know, it was
 
In that case, I'll just work on editing questions.
Thanks guys!
 
@Cinch you don't want to run a site anyway
 
@royhowie Probably. But perhaps the answer is canonicals, not a new site.
Thanks for the insight.
 
@royhowie Thank you.
 
8:33 AM
posted on April 28, 2015 by kbironneau

/* by Array(); */

 
My Boob Fell Off.... ?
 
Haha I wish I could star that. Stupid mobile
 
The related list sounds fun, too
those answers are ridiculous youtube.com/watch?v=QCyfkSE_Q1Q
 
8:54 AM
how to extract this part only

150204072026|150204072042|150204072053|150204072103|150204072113

from this data

xxx,fccccc,xcd,3,0,150204072026|150204072042|150204072053|150204072103|150204072113*33
 
Split by comma, then by asterisk?
 
@jemz 'xxx,fccccc,xcd,3,0,150204072026|150204072042|150204072053|150204072103|1502040‌​72113*33'.match( /\d+(\|\d+)+/ )
 
@Sheepy Shaun
 
@Neoares Mea~
 
@Sheepy, what if it has extension .jpg?
150204072026_cee1.jpg|150204072042_cee1.jpg|150204072053_cee1.jpg|150204072103_c‌​ee1.jpg|150204072113_cee1.jpg
 
9:07 AM
@jemz uh... wat?
 
@jemz You are not making any sense.
 
@jemz What you are probably doing is against Googles's terms of service.
 
user2985029
@BenjaminGruenbaum what is it?
 
We're Hiring! Israel, really fun, no remote. Ping me about details.
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9:11 AM
@BenjaminGruenbaum That's a great idea :)
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum Cool. But it sounds as if anybody solving that challenge should send an email, even if not interested in the job
 
user2985029
@BenjaminGruenbaum what's it like for black people in isreal?
 
@dystroy yeah, it does :)
 
@jemz /\w+\.jpg(\|\w+\.jpg)+/
 
@9205892 Don't worry, it's OK for a developer being 3 young asian women, just like everywhere
 
9:13 AM
This is a very simple regx...
 
@9205892 don't know I'm not black. There is some racism but it's not as bad as most other places (better than the US) - I only have two 'black' friends, both are very successful (one is a medicine student, other has a cs degree).
 
@dystroy I'm still standing, so I guess it is OK, yeah.
 
@Sheepy vamp feeder alert!
 
@Sheepy, Thank you
 
user2985029
@BenjaminGruenbaum reason I ask is that I saw something on tv or youtube about people feeling resentment towards black people working in isreal, politicians making a big deal out of their presence
 
9:17 AM
@9205892 oh, those aren't "black people", those are illegal work immigrants, the reason they don't like them isn't the color of their skin.
 
We've advanced so much with technology and there are still people moaning about skin color?
What a silly world ;d
 
user2985029
@BenjaminGruenbaum the problem with that is that people who are legal are targeted because they are black, the assumption is that every black person is illegal
 
It's the fact they're illegal work immigrants, personally I don't mind them since they usually escaped horrible places but the people hate the financial burden they impose and the fact they deteriorate some neighborhoods.
@9205892 no no, there are plenty of black people here that are legal to not cause that issue.
Also, anyone who feels like sharing the gist - appreciated.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum Haha, love the email challenge
 
Thanks, I was inspired by something Prezi did, props go to them or whoever they took the idea from
 
9:23 AM
Too bad it's no remote.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum Even with the clues given, there are multiple possibilities, right?
 
No, there is one, I picked one number that does this
The integers are positive (1+) repetitions are allowed.
 
Ah, I included 0
@BenjaminGruenbaum Btw, how does this look? ocw.mit.edu/courses/mathematics/…
I'll try going through that in the summer
 
Since it depends on multivariable calculus and that's what we're doing in college right now, I should probably wait until we're done
@BenjaminGruenbaum Do you know of a better one?
 
9:36 AM
Yay i figured it out
 
The email?
 
Ya
 
I love the idea
 
I should've written a script to solve it L
 
It's brilliant to use something like that before they can even get in touch with you
@Meredith Haha, did you do it by hand?
 
9:38 AM
Using a calculator but yeah
 
@SomeGuy it looks fine
 
rsz
hi all
 
@rsz Welcome to the JavaScript chat! Please review the room pseudo-rules. Please don't ask if you can ask or if anyone's around; just ask your question, and if anyone's free and interested they'll help.
 
rsz
i have a file input field, which is triggered by click action, now if i click a button with my mouse, it is triggered but when i write it in the console i mean $('#selector').trigger('click'); then the click event is not triggered
i mean console vs mouse, with the one the same code works but if i trigger it in the console it does not
i can't seem to figure it out
 
10:06 AM
@BenjaminGruenbaum lol nice
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum can I send an email to Gilad if I'm not interested in the job too?
 
@FlorianMargaine you can, but I don't think it'll help much :D
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum Can I post the email I figured here?
 
Sure, I guessed you guys could solve it it's a line of haskell or 5 lines of JS.
It's meant to filter out people who can't really program from
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum I got multiple answers from my script, but only 1 has a valid mailbox on your server (so says telnet)
 
10:09 AM
@AwalGarg nice (the telnet), you probably have answers with zeros - so not those ones
 
Yeah there are a bunch w/ 0s
 
gilad1001@yoursite // telnet says rcpt OK
 
This one is not the answer.
 
Can I spoil it
 
Sure, jsut delete it after a few seconds.
 
10:11 AM
@BenjaminGruenbaum two lines, really...
 
@Sheepy if you have a range function hmm
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum I know, it doesn't fit the format. It was a bug in my script :P
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum repeats allowed?
 
@MadaraUchiha yes
 
But I am curious why it exists in the first place :P
 
10:13 AM
probably script
 
Also, anyone else experiencing timeouts with chat, or just me? :(
 
(as in, it's a destination of some reporting service)
 
ah
 
@Meredith, maybe you had a typo, but your last digit was wrong
At least as far as I can tell
 
Couple of other emails results rcpt OK too. 9420 etc. @BenjaminGruenbaum
 
10:14 AM
Yeah my bad
That was the square
 
@AwalGarg He probably receives any email @tipranks.com
 
Square root the last number
 
Yeah
I can't wait until things like this are standard practice
 
@SomeGuy but some emails fail.
 
I remember reading about some Security community seeking out people by giving them clues
I can't remember what it was called
Quite famous, IIRC
 
10:16 AM
Not surprising, foobar@tipranks.com is also valid :P
 
@AwalGarg Ah. Don't know, then :P
 
!!> var range = (from, to, result = []) => (to - from === 0) ? result : result.concat(from).concat(range(from+1, to, result)); range(3,7);
 
@MadaraUchiha []
 
@SomeGuy Almost sure 9420 is the correct one :P
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum I sent one anyway :P
@AwalGarg It isn't
It's positive, so every digit is >= 1
 
10:18 AM
@MadaraUchiha [3,4,5,6]
 
@MadaraUchiha Fancy
 
Shouldn't range(3,7) include 7?
 
@SomeGuy Then their mail server seems to be buggy :P
 
@BenFortune I wouldn't say so
 
@SomeGuy heh
@MadaraUchiha naw, it should be an iterator not an array
 
10:21 AM
!!> var rangeInclusive = (from, to, result = []) => (to - from === 0) ? result.concat(from) : result.concat(from).concat(rangeInclusive(from+1, to, result)); rangeInclusive(3,7);
 
@MadaraUchiha "ReferenceError: range is not defined"
@MadaraUchiha [3,4,5,6,7]
 
@BenFortune ^
 
LOOK ZERO IS JUST (ALMOST) POSITIVE
 
@AwalGarg Haha, I assumed 0 would be included too, initially
@BenjaminGruenbaum Maybe you should clarify that the digits range from 1-9 inclusive in the gist
 
Maybe
I'm not sending the gist, I'm posting this mainly on FB, so people like @MadaraUchiha can share it :D
 
10:25 AM
Ah, fair enough
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum My FB activity is about the same as your Google+ activity.
 
Great, share it on Google+ and FB then :D
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum Hahahaha this is awesome youtu.be/v5hDF6792ko
I did need that
 
@SomeGuy LOL
The one at 0:55, it's feet didn't even leave the table xD
 
10:32 AM
@BenjaminGruenbaum why no TCO?
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum Array(9000).fill(0).map( (e,i) => String(i+1000).split('') ).filter( e => e.indexOf('0') < 0 && e.reduce( (p,v) => p+(v*v), 0 ) === 101 && e.reduce( (p,v) => p > v ? 10 : v, e[0] ) <= 9 ).map( e => e.join('') )
 
!!> Array(9000).fill(0).map( (e,i) => String(i+1000).split('') ).filter( e => e.indexOf('0') < 0 && e.reduce( (p,v) => p+(v*v), 0 ) === 101 && e.reduce( (p,v) => p > v ? 10 : v, e[0] ) <= 9 ).map( e => e.join('') )
!!undo
 
Oh, our Caprica can run ES6!
 
Since it works and we don't want to give the answer away
 
Functional programming is great
 
10:35 AM
@Sheepy That's atrocious
 
Yeah, you'd rather just use the for loops than have such a large array
It's still cool
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum I have 12 answers!
 
Is repetition of digits allowed?
 
Yes
 
@FlorianMargaine The digits can be 1-9 inclusive
And they're in descending order
So there's only 1 answer
 
10:37 AM
@SomeGuy nah, it's just that I went bruteforce and didn't sort/uniq
 
I loved Lisp. When I still remembered it. Now I only remember I loved Lisp. T-T
 
@MadaraUchiha Doesn't seem to work with lambdas. I guess the assumption is that it might be overwritten by another function
 
@FlorianMargaine That's what I did too
 
changed script to use generators and got 6643. If only there were 5 digits :/
 
however, I don't have the same result as you do, @Meredith
 
10:38 AM
@copy Doesn't seem to work even when I change to normal function
 
@FlorianMargaine His last digit was incorrect
 
@MadaraUchiha babeljs.io/repl/…
 
Yeah square root the last digit
I messed up my typing
 
10:39 AM
@copy Ah, I left is as range = function....
 
@rlemon That's awesome!
 
@SomeGuy ah, fair enough then
 
What did you get?
 
ooh **** was the last result which I didn't iterate :D
 
Ye that's it
 
10:41 AM
in AngularJS, 51 secs ago, by deostroll
Can anyone explain why the input element isn't binding to dir?
 
@deostroll Maybe it's shy
 
or maybe angular is sleeping
BTW, you posted the same question in the space of a minute in multiple chat rooms === qban.
 
@rlemon Haha
 

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