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4:00 PM
and the parents could put on a logic show
 
!!afk software testing bash in the conference room
 
Not with that many daughters they couldn't :p
 
oh, snap
 
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@SterlingArcher lol <input id="#select-none"
 
 <script type="text/javascript" src="http://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/jquery/1.7.2/jquery.min.js">
</script>
<script type="text/javascript">
    $(document).ready(function() {
        $('INPUT[type="text"]').focus(function() {
            $(this).addClass("focus");
        });
        $('INPUT[type="text"]').blur(function() {
            $(this).removeClass("focus");
        });
    });
</script>
<style type="text/css">
.focus {
border: 2px solid black;
background-color: #D6D6D6;
}
</style>
 protected void Page_Load(object sender, EventArgs e)
        {
            TextBox txtunitupcbaseitem = (TextBox)GridView1.HeaderRow.FindControl("TextBox23");
            txtunitupcbaseitem.Focus();
            txtunitupcbaseitem.CssClass = "focus";
        }
 
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4:07 PM
@HackMaster control+k to format code
 
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C#?
 
$('input[type=text]').on('focus blur'), function() { $(this).toggleClass('focus'); });
@Jhawins looks more like java
 
Aren't gridviews more in the .net framework family?
 
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@FlorianMargaine I thought Page_Load was a c# thing
 
@Jhawins ah, maybe
 
4:10 PM
the above code set the focus to the first text box in my gridview and changes the background to light gray which is perfect but when the user clicks the horizontal scroll at the bottom the focus is lost and when tabbed it starts from the first text box
 
the casting to TextBox makes me think of java tho, haven't seen much code like this in C#
 
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I haven't seen much of either
 
so...
I had my first scrum meeting today
in english, on hangouts
I didn't understand a thing
 
is there a way to see how many levels down an element is from a jquery selector?
 
don't worry, nobody understands scrum.
 
4:12 PM
@FlorianMargaine are you guys new to scrum
 
@taco no, I'm new to the team
I meant that I suck at english
 
we use scrum and I just do what I'm told. No idea what that shit is about
 
Anyone used antergos before?
 
we do sprints and daily standups, and then sprint planning once a sprint ends; that's the extent of my involvement
 
@FlorianMargaine vimeo.com/110554082
 
4:14 PM
@FlorianMargaine Why ? Is part of the team not French speaking ?
 
@dystroy there are like 2 french people (me included) in a team of 10
 
OK
 
@BenFortune I quit trying new Linux distros back in the Mandrake Linux days
 
some americans, some british, some croatians, some serbian...
 
4:15 PM
@FlorianMargaine so many opportunities for historically accurate but politically incorrect jokes
 
@ssube yeah, I avoid them.
for now, that is.
 
@BenFortune what is it exactly ? a distro ?
 
(as I said, I'm new to the team)
 
@dystroy no, it's not just a distro, it's a way of life
 
@dystroy Yes. It updates itself as the updates are released upstream.
 
4:16 PM
@FlorianMargaine and his co-workers walk into a bar. The Serbian buys everyone a round of potatoes
 
@BenFortune you want to describe a rolling release distro
and there are many of them, it's not the only one
 
I find it hard to trust...
 
Only distro i find remotely interesting right now is coreos.com
 
yeah... it seems to be a spinoff of arch with default packages
@taco same.
 
A magically complete and always up to date distro whatever your needs ?
 
4:18 PM
Been looking for a new one for my lappy since the whole ElementaryOS/Luna breakdown
 
OSX since 2001 for me. Apple isn't going away anytime soon
 
@BenFortune which breakdown?
 
I'd rather not pay £1000 for something that's going to essentially run linux though
 
coreos might be interesting...
 
@dystroy for servers though, seems to be a pain for desktop
 
OSX is like 15 bucks
 
hah
what did I say about antergos being an arch spinoff? wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/…
:D
 
@FlorianMargaine yes, it's not suited for my needs, but interesting
antergos is weird, on the contrary, I don't get it
 
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I've not really noticed any advantages to any particular distro
 
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In the end it all may as well be the same.
 
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4:21 PM
Bash+weird package manager built on posix. Go!
 
> The purpose of Antergos is to provide a modern, elegant, and powerful operating system based on one of the best Linux distributions available, Arch Linux.
@FlorianMargaine It's not like they were hiding the fact :P
 
This test should not be passing right now
 
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Hahaha antergos.com gets 3 slides to show off the OS on the homepage and what do they choose to put in them? "Your Linux. Always Fresh. Never Frozen.", "Antergos includes exclusive desktop and icon themes...", "Antergos is developed with simplicity in mind..."
 
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Now I know why I should use antergos
 
4:25 PM
@Zirak cat foo > #<buffer *scratch*> is pretty fun
 
@Jhawins yes, it looks like a joke
 
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Oh is it a joke? I'm just not seeing any useful information about it on the homepage but they seem very serious :/
 
I don't think it's a joke but it does look like it.
 
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They have a pic of one of the devs next to a lifesize "stitch" (lilo and stitch) so it can't be that much of a joke!
 
hey, it's a distribution which is always up to date and has pretty icons. Doesn't make sense in my world.
 
4:28 PM
@Jhawins it's largely about who's backing it
centos is free RHEL, so you can run most things, and get security updates real quick
 
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Yeah lol "it's up to date we use rolling releases, that should be all you need to know so go ahead and download it"
 
@Jhawins weird package manager built on posix?
 
ubuntu, could have security, maybe (it's probably in another channel)
 
@ssube ubuntu uses debian security afaik
although they probably have their own channel
but it's usually pretty good in my experience
 
@FlorianMargaine ah, debian, where it's the 90s forever
debian is the parachute pants of linux
 
4:30 PM
then again, distros have... weird ways to package stuff
for example php 5.3 in ubuntu packages is a mix of php 5.3 and a lot of backports of php 5.4/5.5/5.6
so you don't really know what's in it
 
that's why I like being downstream from rhel.
 
same for rhel :)
 
It may not be new, but you know exactly what it is, and it has every known security fix.
 
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There's always Mandriva
 
rpm has a way to check backports for CVE patches at least. not sure about apt
 
4:32 PM
rhel and debian have the same issue in this regard.
 
nah you can check on rhel with rpm
 
I want opposite things from my distros and my women. Distros should be slow, stable, and secure.
 
rpm -q --changelog php
 
@Jhawins Sounds like a nasty venereal disease
 
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@Neil Yeah KDE is pretty nasty
 
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4:34 PM
It comes with full blown aids by default but you can downgrade to HIV with some work
 
@ssube depends if for desktop or server
 
New to mocha. It looks like it's asynchronous so I can't just throw a done() at the end of a test, can I?
 
@FlorianMargaine nah, centos on both
 
Centos for desktop sounds stupid...
 
@Jhawins Requires money-3.4 to downgrade to HIV
 
4:35 PM
Yeah its not for desktop imo
 
And I want to try KDE plasma... It looks very nice
 
I've never liked Centos, but that's probably just because I'm shit.
 
@FlorianMargaine why? I only ever use konsole
 
Tried downgrading mysql, had so many problems and conflicts
 
it's the same env as all our servers
 
4:37 PM
@ssube because I don't use my desktop to develop for work only. I have VMs for that
 
what do you mean?
 
I use a lot of stuff that often requires more recent versions than what centos provides
And yes, it's unstable, but I don't care because it's shiny
(And it's stable enough for desktop.)
 
shiny is the work of satan
 
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@ssube Konsole is great
 
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Yakuake too
 
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Everyone should just use Winux... On their <Win2000 and old nix machines
 
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Get bent infected!
 
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@BenFortune only 29mb too
 
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> alert("WARNING: malicious javascript detected on this domain")
 
4:45 PM
@Jhawins It is only the first level though
 
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@BenFortune Yeah I know
 
Still, impressive
 
why does china even bother?
 
morning
 
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@BenFortune OMG! Did you actually download and play it? It looks absolutely amazing I did it just now on a 27" iMac haha
 
4:48 PM
@SomeKittens i found a better solution to my clientUser data situation
 
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Video doesn't do it justice
 
@Jhawins I can't see it running well on my old work Windows PC
 
@itanex oh good! What was it?
 
removed the service call and gave my server the ability to write a cookie instead, allowing me to have less complication with user data
 
Going home in 10 minutes, and it'd likely take an hour or so to download
 
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4:49 PM
Oh actually the video is pretty good if you watch it in HD.. Heh
 
TL;DR Shit PC shit internet
 
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@BenFortune You take an hour for 29mb??
 
Work internet doesn't even have fibre
Fucking peasants
 
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Fibre?
 
internet made of glass
 
4:50 PM
Fibre optic
We're on ADSL
Paying stupid money for a 10/10 connection, that isn't actually 10/10
 
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Yeah I figured that but I think it's strange you would say it should have fibre. You have to drive 3 hours to get to a fibre connection here
 
The flats across the road have fibre
 
what kind of office doesn't have fibre?
 
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Yea we don't get that
 
that may have been common in the 80s
 
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4:51 PM
@ssube most?
 
@ssube a home office
 
probably not even then
 
My home has fibre...
 
@ssube rural...
 
@KendallFrey I mean like corporate offices in real buildings.
 
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4:51 PM
In Indiana most. Because it's not an option
 
Oh no, this is a fairly old building converted into offices
 
and btw, isn't the english word "fiber"?
 
@ssube And I mean home offices
 
If your company can't bother to get fibre, why would you bother to work there?
 
@FlorianMargaine that's the murican one
 
4:52 PM
I'm the sole developer/IT tech
 
English is fibre
 
First job, experience, etc
 
@KendallFrey thanks
 
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Business class internet here is a bridged DSL connection (using two of your lines) and it gets you to 20mbps download and 3.5mbps upload. And it's expensive and not even available for residential
 
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Residential is either 10down 1.5 up or you won't even get DSL and have to get satellite.
 
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4:53 PM
1 provider for the entire county, no options.
 
@Jhawins That's sad :(
 
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20mbps download is fuckin fast to me..
 
@BenFortune that's USA.
 
First world problems :>
 
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They didn't even offer the 20 until like 7-8 months ago.
 
4:54 PM
USA is more like 2nd world when it comes to internet
 
I do a ridiculous amount of downloading and streaming at home though
 
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Century Link is terrible
Worse customer service than Comcast
 
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Centruy Link is the only option for 40 minutes in any direction (if you even get them)
 
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And actually CL is fucking awesome. I call them at the end of each month and go "your speeds were shit the whole time" then send them tests from each week, then they credit me 50% of my bill.
 
4:55 PM
 
I insulted Century Link in front of one of its reps at best buy, once. Told him how absolute garbage it was, and we were there to switch to comcast
 
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You went to Best Buy to sign up for internet...? He probably just thought you were nuts.
 
 
And to Comcast at that
 
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@ssube "faster than 94% of US"
 
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4:56 PM
And that's not even that fast
 
@Jhawins Nah, they have internet reps at best buy in cities that aren't small
 
that's our work line
from my laptop
 
Friend in Latvia has a 500/500 to his home
 
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@NickDugger They don't have Best Buy at cities that are small ;P I have to drive 40 min
 
pays something like 25 euros for it
 
4:57 PM
we have 100/100 at home, for $40
 
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omg
 
could've gotten 1000/1000 for $80 or 100
 
I pay £50 a month for 100/10 with tv and phone
 
fibre to the premises
 
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4:58 PM
Shit no. $80/month is 10mbps down and 1.5 up, what I have at home. That's almost double what $80/month gets you.
 
FTTP here is like £300+ a month
and that's without the £2k installation fee
 
apparently my ISP recently launched 10G FTP, too: fiber.usinternet.com
 
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Oh actually there is a business here that has a google fiber line
 
Google need to get their arses in gear and expand
 
4:59 PM
they are the city's ISP, so they have special permits to run fibre under roads and all kinds of shit
 
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They paid some outrageous amount and do a lot of other testing shit with Google
 
10g, can't even write to my PCIeSSD that fast.
 

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