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10:04 PM
@LanaKane well this year I fear I won't have as much $$ so I'm accepting Donation prizes to sweeten the pot.
 
what's the best way to change an object's constructor? say I have a class, and I want to create it with the constructor pointing to another class. but the result is the same otherwise
 
nothing
let thing = new Thing();
thing.constructor = OtherThing; //?
 
I thought about that, but isn't that a cheat/hack
I mean, will it bite me in the ass later because my objects are broken
 
What you're thinking about is cheaty/hacky, so the solution fits
 
ok, not about cheats/hacks, just correctness
 
10:10 PM
// but perhaps more nicely:
var OtherThing = Thing;
 
can't do that
need to keep OtherThing referencing the same thing
 
YZ
 
@phenomnomnominal I don't swing that way
 
This is abysmally confusing. Draw up an example for example input/output?
 
10:11 PM
@rlemon you Canadians and your Rush obsession
 
@rlemon xyzzy
 
@phenomnomnominal he's thinking about the possible downfalls to a proposed solution. so it isn't XY, because he has Y, it is YZ because he wants Z.
 
@phenomnomnominal or the toronto pearson airport
though I don't think many are obsessed about it
who knows
 
@rlemon either way, I still want to know what X is :)
 
@Mosho I'm obsessed with avoiding it
 
10:13 PM
@Mosho It was my brother's password once :/
 
fuck pearson
 
Back when I was good at guessing passwords
 
@rlemon yeah, it's quite shitty compared to where it is
 
@KendallFrey I suspected someone was using my pc when I was not around, so I put a keylogger on my own pc. my brother is not good at guessing passwords.
 
hahahaha
 
10:14 PM
israel's airport is a palace in comparison, and it's basically 3rd world
 
Israel 3rd world? what?
 
I hear if it wasn't for the wars n shit, Israel is a fantastic place
 
user2620028
HAHA niiice
 
^
even with the wars, I still hear it is pretty fantastic if you are a tourist
 
10:16 PM
I hear that about india too
 
difference is not everyone in israel is trying to get out of it
 
If you're a tourist, I think most places are pretty nice
 
ever met an Indian who wanted to stay? /s /kinda
 
@rlemon Not even if I offered her double price
 
you happen to be where most of the ones who don't, go
so your opinion is biased
 
10:18 PM
are not all opinions biased on principal?
I've never got that
 
@Mosho was confusing before the edit, grammatically incorrect after
@rlemon *principle
 
you're right, opinion is not the right word
your view, whatever
your...
 
Biased is the word
 
fuck off
 
Sees only a sliver of the overall spectrum
 
10:19 PM
@KendallFrey better than confusing
 
no, die
 
sooner rather than later
 
!!s/ie/iet/
 
@rlemon As Mosho said, we know Indians who are suffocating in India because of their skills and whatnot.
 
@rlemon no, diet (source)
 
10:20 PM
@rlemon Israel is a decent place to live, if you know how to play the game
 
I just lost the game
 
We'll need to do an extensive field research. Who's volunteering to travel to India?
 
Admittedly, not everyone know how to play the game, most of them aren't even aware that they're playing
 
I just lost the game
 
@Zirak well yes, but the comparison still stands, because I know only programmer Israelites
and you are not all about getting out
so that reasons to stand...
 
10:20 PM
But aside for the wanna-be capitalism and the corruption everywhere, Israel is a decent place to live
 
A lot of people are abandoning ship in Israel
It's a widely known and discussed issue
 
yes, I understand that.
 
wanna-be? is israel not capitalist already?
 
but as far as 'would visit' it still ranks higher for me than India
 
@Zirak Yes, the original FUD campaigns of "Nazis will hunt you down anywhere you go aside from here" are losing grounds
 
10:21 PM
oh, everywhere's better than India
 
@Zirak North Korea.
 
i think chances of being abducted for ransom are about that same in both places.
 
Mars.
 
@Zirak Russia
 
@MadaraUchiha Replaced with "you'll be hunted down anywhere anyway"
 
10:22 PM
But.. not that I'm any great source of info on that.
 
I would go to mars in a heartbeat
 
one-way?
 
@rlemon Russia has a lot of beautiful places
 
grow potatoes in my own shit
it'll be great
 
@Mosho Really now?
 
10:22 PM
I would goto mars if I had a link to google.
 
is that what happens in 'The MArtian'?
 
real time
 
@Mosho Do we have the technology to go to Mars in a heartbeat yet?
 
I don't think you appreciate the number of unsolved problems yet to be solved before we can even start thinking seriously about sending people there :P
 
one-way is much easier, though
 
10:23 PM
@Luggage Not by much
 
just improve communication technology and give a high speed link to the internet.
even a moron could survive
 
I'm willing to be like
the 50th person to go
 
@Zirak a small electric shock applied to the heart should do the trick
 
easy
 
still a monumental challenge, obviously.
 
10:23 PM
srs
 
@rlemon The fact that Google's servers will be a few light-minutes away from you, might cause a bit of a delay
 
@rlemon Or better yet, destroy the internet, build something better than HTTP and html. It's our one chance
 
@MadaraUchiha do you even quantum
 
> just improve communication technology
 
10:24 PM
@rlemon "how 2 grow tomatoes w/ atmosphere"
 
(trademark)
 
@Mosho I do. Theoretically.
 
@Mosho do you even GR
 
can't improve latency.
 
> just move faster than the speed of light
 
10:24 PM
QM provides no way to transmit information faster than c
 
ohh, ok.
 
!!youtube how 2 build atmosphere enclosure
 
meh
 
!!s/QM/your face/
 
10:25 PM
it's glass
 
@phenomnomnominal your face provides no way to transmit information faster than c (source)
 
close enough
 
although, quantum teleportation would be a neat way to get there
 
@KendallFrey I slept through that course
 
I fucking loved the Martian though.
 
10:25 PM
@KendallFrey Well, experiments were successful in causing effects in atoms a distance away instantaneously, that's faster than c.
 
@KendallFrey "beam me up Kenny"
 
better than 'Gravity'?
 
@KendallFrey you'd only be transferring your atoms, not your consciousness
@Luggage I think so
 
@MadaraUchiha What "effects" are you referring to?
@phenomnomnominal That's entirely up in the air
 
my atoms are my consciousness as far as new me knows.
 
10:26 PM
> However, some argue that superluminal communication could be achieved via quantum entanglement using other methods that don't rely on cloning a quantum system.
do you even wikipedia
I win
 
@KendallFrey Electrons being aggro'd
 
'Some argue'. that settles that.
 
@Luggage yes but your new me would be a different me
even if it knew everything from the old one, the old one wouldn't magically appear over there
 
@MadaraUchiha aggro'd?
 
let it be known, once we discover tachyons all problems will go away. I don't know how, but they just will.
 
10:27 PM
@KendallFrey Similar to being hit by photons
 
it'd wake up thinking it lived my life.
 
@MadaraUchiha link?
 
@KendallFrey looking
 
it's like hibernating a PC and cloning the HD over the internet and waking it up
 
@rlemon creating a black hole on earth should solve quite a few
 
10:28 PM
@rlemon I learned something really fascinating about tachyons. A tachyon is defined as a particle with imaginary mass.
 
it would have to be
 
@Mosho and create one.
 
I don't see it
I'll be on mars
gg
 
ok, well we'll do it in your neighborhood, then.
 
Atom effectively exists in two places at once, so when you interact with it in one place, the interaction is observable in the other place at the same time, regardless of distance.
 
10:30 PM
didn't we prove entanglement with the Double-slit experiment???
 
Anyone watch Homeworld?
 
was I sleeping?
 
@rlemon No
 
@Luggage have it here
was it good?
 
But these are still very early experiments, and the way to actually harness those newly found superpowers are not very clear.
 
10:30 PM
I mean homeland..
 
@MadaraUchiha no mention of FTL communication, and no explanation of how they "split" a photon
 
@Luggage that's totally how I read that
 
But we can all agree that rlemon was never homeless
 
@KendallFrey There's a link to the actual paper there
 
polarizing beam splitters would explain it
 
10:31 PM
I haven't read it, but you're free to take a look
 
mmk, I might
 
The first episide has an awesome (or horrible) speech about how to solve the isis problem.
 
@rlemon I don't know anything about quantum entanglement, but double slit experiment is about waves and how they behave moving through space.
 
By Quinn (sp?)
 
In quantum mechanics, the quantum eraser experiment is an interferometer experiment that demonstrates several fundamental aspects of quantum mechanics, including quantum entanglement and complementarity. The double-slit quantum eraser experiment described in this article has three stages: First, the experimenter reproduces the interference pattern of Young's double-slit experiment by shining photons at the double-slit interferometer and checking for an interference pattern at the detection screen. Next, the experimenter marks through which slit each photon went, without disturbing its wavefunction...
 
10:32 PM
@rlemon that only demonstrates a particle interfering with itself
 
@rlemon oh. That's not the double slit experiment I know of.
 
!!wiki bell test experiments
 
Bell test experiments or Bell's inequality experiments are designed to demonstrate the real world existence of certain theoretical consequences of the phenomenon of entanglement in quantum mechanics which could not possibly occur according to a classical picture of the world, characterised by the notion of local realism. Under local realism, correlations between outcomes of different measurements performed on separated physical systems have to satisfy certain constraints, called Bell inequalities. John Bell derived the first inequality of this kind in his paper "On the Einstein-Podolsky-Rosen Paradox...
 
The modern double-slit experiment is a demonstration that light and matter can display characteristics of both classically defined waves and particles; moreover, it displays the fundamentally probabilistic nature of quantum mechanical phenomena. A simpler form of the double-slit experiment was performed originally by Thomas Young in 1801 (well before quantum mechanics). He believed it demonstrated that the wave theory of light was correct and his experiment is sometimes referred to as Young's experiment or Young's slits. The experiment belongs to a general class of "double path" experiments, in...
 
for entanglement proofs
 
10:32 PM
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@Zirak yes, double-slit is the first stage of this
 
this is a fascinating topic, but what about my fucking js question
 
(I went to Special:Random, don't ask me what this is, I dunno)
 
it is basically using double-slit to demonstrate it
 
@Mosho I don't want to be fucking your js question.
 
10:33 PM
22 mins ago, by Zirak
This is abysmally confusing. Draw up an example for example input/output?
 
right
it('sets up constructor to match the type', () => {
    let proxy = createProxy(Bar);
    const BarProxy = proxy.get();
    const barInstance = renderer.render(<BarProxy />);
    expect(barInstance.constructor).toEqual(BarProxy);
  });
 
wat
 
does const even have a meaning in a function like that?
 
wat?
 
Why is this useful
 
10:35 PM
hot reloading
fuck
oh come on
 
@Mosho The line in the middle
The empty line, add 4 spaces
 
it('sets up constructor to match the type', () => {
  let proxy = createProxy(Bar);
  const BarProxy = proxy.get();
  const barInstance = renderer.render(<BarProxy />);
  expect(barInstance.constructor).toEqual(BarProxy);
  expect(barInstance instanceof BarProxy).toEqual(true);

  proxy.update(Baz);
  const BazProxy = proxy.get();
  expect(BarProxy).toEqual(BazProxy);
  expect(barInstance.constructor).toEqual(BazProxy);
  expect(barInstance instanceof BazProxy).toEqual(true);
});
that's the full test
 
@Mosho How would that help you?
 
function createProxy(fun) {
    var wat = fun;

    return {
        get() {
            return wat;
        }
    };
}
 
Changing the constructor after an instance was created?
 
10:38 PM
function createProxy(weeeeeeeeeee) {
 
@Zirak this is what I do, but it doesn't do that
 
const createProxy = fun => ...
come at me..
 
@rlemon You and your silly conventions
 
@rlemon do you even this
 
@Mosho What fails?
 
10:39 PM
@Mosho ... can represent a number of things
 
expect(barInstance.constructor).toEqual(BarProxy);
@rlemon but not the context of that function
noob.
 
@MadaraUchiha the site has an error loading the main paper, but the abstract makes no mention of anything related to FTL communication
 
@Luggage you totally ruined my punchline
 
ohh, sorry.
 
@Mosho meh, this is lame
 
10:40 PM
@KendallFrey It's not the point of the experiment, it's inferred of it
 
inferred how, by whom?
 
1 message moved to Trash can
 
@Luggage np :D
 
10:41 PM
If you have an atom that's at two places at once, interacting with it on "one place" would be observable in "the other place"
 
I don't know what renderer is so I replaced it with new
 
it's react
 
Hey guys!
 
@MadaraUchiha no
 
it's two particles entangled. not one in two places
 
10:41 PM
if you can interact with it in one position, it cannot be in another position
 
ohh, i see. a particle in superposition. carry on
 
@Mosho Then of course that won't work since your render doesn't return something which was created from Bar
 
@Zirak it's more complicated than that, fun is a class
 
@Zirak the horse says; "DOCTORATE DENIED"
 
that I instantiate
 
10:43 PM
Classes are functions with shit on top, new ClassName is same shit
 
functions with a prototype
 
@Zirak that doesn't change what I meant
 
I don't see why renderer.render would return something which was created from Bar
It returns the rendered stuff
 
var foo = new ClassName(arg1, arg1);
// or
var foo = Object.create(ClassName.prototype);
ClassName.apply(foo, [arg1, arg2]);
// right?
 
@Zirak it returns the instance
 
10:46 PM
are we trying to determine the proper way to instantiate objects in JS (not using new?)
 
nothing proper about this
 
nothing proper about new in javascript either.
Apparently we're supposed to do it differently
but fuck that
 
@Mosho okay, then I wasn't wrong at the end about replacing renderer.render with new, same end result
So what doesn't work?
I really don't get what you're doing
 
@Luggage yeah but the old you and the new you wouldn't be connected in any way, so the you you would die
 
10:48 PM
look at that
@Zirak yeah, that's right
 
Right. But new me will say "hey, it worked" and go on, so..
in a sense, my consciousness transfers
 
@Luggage yes, it transfers, but it's not connected
so you would stop existing
 
@Zirak actually that: jsh.zirak.me/1k77m8k5uyo
 
there would just be another version of you that is exactly the same and thinks it is you, but actually the you died
 
so though the naming is crap, createProxy is a class
 
10:50 PM
 
Right... but unless you think there is a soul, then the important part is all there. Sure... on SOME level you just snuffed yourself, but on another, you traveled a great distance
 
@phenomnomnominal I like the version where space is folded to reduce the distance between the two travel points better.
 
@MadaraUchiha me too, that's the only version that doesn't freak me out
 
But I have to sleep, otherwise destruction
 
@phenomnomnominal Oh it totally freaks me out
 
10:51 PM
@phenomnomnominal Obviously I'd have my reservations about doing this myself, as I'd still consider it death.
 
Malfunction while you're just in the middle of that space-wasy bubble of wormholeness
Your atoms scattered across the empty space from here to Mars in a tiny fraction of a second.
 
or you just get unstuck in time
 
But at least it doesn't involved you dying over and over again to get from one place to another.
 
@Zirak thanks for nothing :(
 
I feel like that's better than rocket explosion though
 
10:53 PM
poor kid
 
Am I the only one that thinks it's perfectly normal for wormholes to be unstable? I mean, a shortcut through spacetime links two points in spacetime, not two points in space over infinite time.
 
user2620028
@madara was just scrolling through youtube comments and stumbled across a comment by someone with the same username as you :P
 
@HatterisMad Might as well be me.
Link?
 
@rlemon was hilarious until I read the title
 
user2620028
how do i make sure that the youtube video doesn't one box
 
user2620028
 
user2620028
yeah that worked cool... lol
 
user2620028
anyways scroll down, it is a reply to joe barbaro
 
user2620028
was killing a couple minutes of time and scrolling through the aids that is youtube comments for a chuckle and went woah madara
 
11:06 PM
Good Morning universe
 
hehehe
 
11:28 PM
Futurama S7 E9 on one of the signs "create this"
hehe
 

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