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7:00 PM
@MadaraUchiha JS had unfair advantage
 
In chrome console, why would a CSS block be grayed out and non-editable?
 
@Pheonixblade9 No, JS is a solved problem.
 
@SterlingArcher agent stylesheet?
 
crl
@Pheonixblade9 nice, dynjs.org
 
Is there any real benefit of using compile-to-JS languages to compile to node.js?
 
7:01 PM
@crl @Zirak yes, Nashorn.
 
@SterlingArcher css syntax error somewhere
maybe
 
Don't use Rhino anymore, Nashorn is much faster.
 
@MadaraUchiha not sure what that is. I was able to edit it before
 
@MadaraUchiha You don't really need "inner workings of computers" to get a job as a C++ dev. Most of them are pretty bad TBH.
 
@BartekBanachewicz so does probably every successful thing in the world.
 
7:01 PM
@JanDvorak You get to use a language which isn't js
 
Hmm refresh fixed it. Not sure why it locked a specific selector block though
 
Same reason you have compile-to-js in the browser
You want the environment, but not the language.
 
@Zirak so, why not use Rails instead of opal.rb/node?
 
@JanDvorak emphasis on which half?
Node is faster than Rails
more portable, too
 
7:02 PM
@JanDvorak Once I've shown my colleague the Http.OutgoingMessage.end implementation today, he concluded that Node is actually worse than PHP.
 
Node is very simple imo
 
@JanDvorak Because of the environment, ecosystem, etc
 
Node is super easy to deploy
 
@BartekBanachewicz I do a lot of C++ dev here, it's...kinda painful sometimes.
 
A bit of a learning curve, but I -- a moron -- was able to get an async map system going with it in just a couple weeks
<3 Node
 
7:04 PM
@SterlingArcher erm yeah
 
@ssube oh, was it a follow-up to Rhino? I remember there was a ruckus about Rhino some time back.
 
@Zirak Java 8 ships with a built-in Rhino-fork-based JS runtime
 
Oh it's the Oracle one
oooohhhhh
 
it's real quick
 
crl
@BartekBanachewicz it's http module? I think express doesn't depend on http
 
7:05 PM
actually compiles JS down to JVM bytecode
 
Java 9 should ship only with v8 based js runtime.
 
(typically)
@Abhishrek Nashorn is competitive with (but still a little slower than) v8
 
Yes I saw it, completely slipped out of my mind
 
@ssube there was a poor joke in there somewhere T_T
 
It also interfaces with Java trivially (you can use a JS object as if it were a Java class)
 
7:05 PM
@Abhishrek If there's one thing which can be said of Java people, it's that they know how to build VMs
 
^ That I agree
 
@Zirak TypeScript!
 
@Zirak That's not something I would accuse them of, on account of .Net being faster and not having erasure. :P
 
@Lok
 
The initial JVM spec was a bit wonky, and they're paying for it to this day, but hot damn did they stand out in their days.
 
7:06 PM
The GC in 1.8 is pretty good, now
 
Most of the really smart v8 people came from working on the JVM
 
@Loktar it's from Samurai Gunn maxistentialism.com/samuraigunn
The greatest game in the world
 
@Zirak Java solved a lot of very painful problems at the time
 
@ssube The CLR really is a better runtime, that's also true.
 
@crl I am pretty sure it does.
 
7:07 PM
Pointer arithmetics and memory allocation symmetry were huge bug factories with C and C++
And Java made those go away
 
@Trasiva "kinda"? "sometimes"? You're not doing a lot of C++ dev then.
 
@Zirak Not to snub Java, but they had 20 years of watching what mistakes Java made.
The amount of experience that went into the CLR, after seeing another near-identical project, gave it an inevitable foot up.
 
@ssube And the sad thing is they copied a lot of the mistakes Java and C made.
 
@BartekBanachewicz For the most part it's not that bad really. But I've been doing C++ for almost ten years at this point. If I hadn't been doing it as long as I have on our embedded system I'm sure it'd be worse.
 
7:09 PM
@Zirak But some of those were language design choices or just architectural stuff that they couldn't really work around.
 
crl
Java managed to have to most confusing version system 1.8==8
 
Or legacy features that people expect now
 
Guys, does this look like Flash to you?
 
crl
it looks like a youtube video :)
 
@crl That's because it's a built-in module
 
7:10 PM
flash with a bunch of bitmaps
 
They have to use http, what else would they use?
 
It looks like typical giant anime boobs
 
crl
ah ok, sorry, didn't know
 
@SterlingArcher That's hardly anime
 
You didn't dispute the typical boobs though :D
 
7:11 PM
Probably one of my biggest turn offs of anime is the fucking enormous tits
 
@MadaraUchiha giant eyes, giant boobs, still screens with irrelevant text, ... pretty sure it's an anime
 
that and the characters spelling out their motives
 
> Next time, on Dragon these BallZ...
 
> Hey, you there, protagonist child! It is I, Gianto Boobtacular, here to destroy your world using this, the Artifact Of Doomstiny. The only way to stop me is to step on my cape sometime during the next 314 episodes. Now, read my backstory in this 30-second still, before we return to a show with no audio production whatsoever.
 
Oh come on guys, that testicle joke was top notch
 
7:13 PM
@SterlingArcher !!s/Dragon/Draggin'
 
@KendallFrey appreciate me D: ^
 
@SterlingArcher I'll give you a star, happy?
 
@SterlingArcher Does appreciating your sexual favours count?
 
Yes, and yes.
 
> Notice me, Senpai.
 
7:17 PM
.. D:
ffs Zirak
 
@Trasiva Wat
 
If I look up the definition for senpai will i be fired?
I've tried so hard not to learn what that is
 
@MadaraUchiha Look at Zirak posted.
 
7:18 PM
If you have to look up the definition...
 
@SterlingArcher It's not bad, it's a very traditional Japanese term.
 
ftr, it's not directly porn-related
 
The only thing I know about Senpai comes from the USB port gif that disturbed me
 
@Trasiva Yeah, I noticed :D
 
hello friends
 
7:18 PM
@SterlingArcher it's better when you know who senpai is
 
@MadaraUchiha I thought it fit perfectly.
@Jesse I'm not your friend, buddy.
 
Is Zirak Senpai?
 
just use the internet ffs
 
@Trasiva I'm not your buddy, guy.
 
I want senpai to notice me.
 
7:19 PM
@Trasiva Senpai thought it didn't fit
 
@SterlingArcher I'm not your guy, friend.
 
@KendallFrey fuck you and your precious internet >=[
 
what time?
 
Iunno.. quarter to 5?
 
> N...n...no! Who said you can push this button!? BAKA
 
7:19 PM
Whatever is most convenient for you.
 
 
@SterlingArcher how bout quarter after?
 
roger that
 
@Zirak I hate you break it to you, but this is not r/Tsundre.
 
@Zirak I don't get it
 
7:20 PM
!!tell SterlingArcher urban senpai
 
@SterlingArcher Senpai Someone who will never notice you.
3
 
HA
 
I was literally about to do that
:(
 
!!urban senpai 2
 
7:21 PM
@SterlingArcher Senpai It originates from anime and manga. It's someone older than you. Someone you look up to. If they give the slightest attention to you, you sort of explode. They are just really admired by you and if you are a senpai, bask in it!
 
@Trasiva I accidentally ran into a /r/TsundereSharks alternative: Tsundere Lamps.
That's one example. I have more.
 
@Zirak There's a dozen different Tsundere subreddits, it's getting creepy.
 
@Trasiva They just want you to notice them
 
7:22 PM
@Zirak I've got a clue.
 
reddit.com/r/funny/comments/22vx54/… this was the first thing I ever noticed "senpai" related
Avoid most of the comment links.. some nsfw stuff
 
i am opening applications to be someone's senpai
 
Well apparently I got Kendall for that shit
I got shafted. Dude's never gonna notice me
 
i am senpai
yass, fucking fly
slow flies die around here
 
7:25 PM
grabbed outta the air like a boss
 
If it wasn't by chopsticks nobody cares bro
ohhhhh
 
cc @Zirak @Trasiva
 
@MadaraUchiha Haha
 
I don't get it
 
@SterlingArcher The guy standing there is god level
He's plenty capable of taking on the titan towering over the giant wall.
He happens to be Madara Uchiha :P
 
7:30 PM
ah
 
i never got past the first episode of that
 
@Jesse Really?
Didn't like it?
 
Something on Titan is all I know about any of this
 
Of "Attack on Titan"? The first one ran deep
 
yeah.. idk, it just didn't grip me
 
7:31 PM
I'm cautious about the live action.
 
maybe i should give it another shot
 
@Jesse your mom sure gripped me
 
@KendallFrey RIP penis
 
@Trasiva No reason to be cautious: We all know it will be bad.
 
7:32 PM
@Zirak It's already out
And it's already bad.
 
Just like how live action avatar and live action dragonball z was a fucking disaster?
 
@SterlingArcher Exactly.
 
I haven't seen either of them actually.
 
@Trasiva You are still pure.
 
Avatar. Best cartoon ever.
 
7:33 PM
@MadaraUchiha ssssShocker
 
Make sure you stay that way.
 
Is the Legend of Korra any good?
Is that even a thing?
 
@SterlingArcher An attempt was made.
 
How much of an attempt
1 season? 4 episodes?
 
Are we all at work but not actually working so instead we hanging out in this chat?
 
7:34 PM
@SterlingArcher 3 books
 
I'm waiting for shit to compile
 
Each worse than the last
First book was decent
Second was meh
 
@MadaraUchiha aka 3 seasons right? Like the 4 books in the OG
 
Third was OMG PLEASE STOP
 
@AmericanSlime There are other timezones than yours
 
7:34 PM
HAMMERTIME!
 
@SterlingArcher Yeah
 
@copy That's a good point. There I got being American again thinking we're the center of the world. ;)
 
It completely lost the magic though
 
That's a shame
 
It became just another cartoon with cool powers
 
7:35 PM
They could have done so much
 
TLAB had real magic
 
I'd like to see a season on Uncle Iroh growing up to be a general
He's the real MVP
 
@SterlingArcher I'd like to see an adaptation of The Search
Where Zuko searches for his mother
 
Avatar: The Last Airbender – The Search is a graphic novel, written by Gene Yang and illustrated by Studio Gurihiru that was released in three parts throughout 2013. It is a sequel to Avatar: The Last Airbender and a prequel to The Legend of Korra, both of which are animated TV series created by Michael Dante DiMartino and Bryan Konietzko. It takes place after the events of the graphic novel Avatar: The Last Airbender – The Promise. It is followed by a sequel, Avatar: The Last Airbender – The Rift. == Overview == The Search focuses on the mystery surrounding Zuko and Azula's long-lost mother, Ursa...
 
7:36 PM
Oh yeah @MadaraUchiha, we gave up on Hellsing. We didn't enjoy it.
 
@Zirak I figured
Some people really love it, some really don't.
@SterlingArcher My absolute favorite scene was Azula vs Zuko
 
Gave up just after the siege of London episode, was so meh
 
It's not that the battle was epic (it was)
 
Where she had a psychotic meltdown?
 
What really caught me was the music
It was probably the most epic battle of the series
 
7:37 PM
I didn't like that they changed the color and shit on their fire and made it more smokey than fiery
 
But the music is slow and sad, because the whole scene is sad
 
It was either that, or the Airship Smash where we thought Sokka and Toph were gonna die
 
Did you know Azula was 14 at the time of TLAB?
 
Yeah, I think a lot of the metaphors was the pressure put on children
 
That meltdown scene really put me to think at what kind of forces drove a 14 year old girl to gain so much power and fight her own brother to the death
Sadly, you see it IRL too
 
7:39 PM
child soldiers and shit. yeah
 
@SterlingArcher Just yesterday we had a Palestinian 13y/o stab another, Jewish 13y/o, only to get shot by police
 
@copy Well, technically his statement isn't wrong.
 
Disregarding politics and conflict
That whole scene is just fucking sad
 
you can't disregard politics and conflict or the scene makes no sense.
 
@Luggage It doesn't make any sense whatsoever
 
7:44 PM
the middle east is a wrecked mess
 
which part?
oh.
 
was it ever peaceful? when did it start going so downhill? the crusades?
 
crl
there was a ressource sharing problem
 
also a bit of a disagreement on dogma.
among so many others reasons, some of which is put apon them from the outside
 
There's a big difference between the current conflict and historical ones: Largely, this is one of public opinion, not weapons.
Sadly, that means increased civilian casualties (if you can set things up such that the other side ends up shooting at your civilians, they look bad)
 
7:51 PM
@SomeKittens Oh yes, the 13 year old was shot, and how quickly the West Bank people waved the photo of him bleeding on the sidewalk in front of the cameras
"Cold blooded execution"
Guess what, he's alive, and is being treated at an Israeli hospital.
 
Exactly. Fire rockets from your soccer stadium, then yell about how there was an airstrike against the stadium (but forget that you were launching rockets from there).
 
There's a video out there, which I won't link to, that shows someone running a bunch of people down with his car, then coming out with an axe to make sure they're dead. The comments on that video are almost as surreal as the video itself.
 
Like any complex multinational issue, this can be summed up via two comics: i.imgur.com/TuzcYi1.png & i.imgur.com/F3GmDE1.png
5
 
just blame Russia
 
Russia <3
 
7:56 PM
@SomeKittens :D
 
!!s/Russia/from Russia with /
 
s/Russia/from $1 with /
 
@SomeKittens i like that israel joke. so true
 
s/Russia/from £0.65 with/
 
cap r u ok
 
7:59 PM
!! live
 

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