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4:00 PM
@towc ^
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum why is d/dx 1/x === ln(|x|)?
 
@darkyen00 johnny depp
 
that ^^
 
@SecondRikudo Why is 1+1=2?
 
Do you know what d/dx is?
More basically, do you know what a lim is?
 
4:00 PM
@FlorianMargaine oh dear lord i have been spelling john as jhon my whole life i guess
 
@KendallFrey It isn't, if you're running intel.
 
@KendallFrey because that's how 2 is defined.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum no...
 
1
A: Change the name of "Burninate"

Bill the LizardI agree that "burninate" looks too much like "urinate." We need a new term for when we want to massively terminate a tag. I suggest we get rid of the offensive "burninate" and use massternate henceforth.

 
limit!
right...
 
4:01 PM
@rlemon funny...
 
dy/dx is the coefficient of the curve derivated at a certain x?
probably not the exact definition, but you get it...
so, what about ln @BenjaminGruenbaum ?
 
@towc yeah, but do you know what a limit actually is? As in for every epsilon bigger than zero there exists a delta bigger than zero such that if the distance between my x and my limit point on the x axis is less than delta is less than epsilon the function is far from the limit L by at most Epsilon.
 
looking for "luxury problem" in the dictionary... got "Change the name of Burinate" as result
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum let me process that...
 
@darkyen00 Dr. Strange is going to be played by Bennedict Cumberbatch.
 
4:03 PM
@Retsam That will suck
 
I disagree.
 
If you don't understand that definition (which is fine) or those words (which is also fine) - you need to start with what a limit is. Deriving d/dx 1/x isn't hard by definition of the inverse of a derivative and what e^x is defined to be - but there is a lot of background yo uneed first.
 
I love me some Cumberbatch
 
For example e itself is defined by a limit.
 
4:04 PM
@BenjaminGruenbaum Oh, wait, my bad
d/dx == deriative, right?
 
I can't imagine cumberbatch looking like strange
 
No, I meant the other way around
 
@SecondRikudo yes
 
integrate (1/x dx) === ln(|x|)
Why? ^
 
4:05 PM
By the normal rules, 1/x == x^-1 so [x^-1 dx] should have been undefined.
 
am scared of the looks
 
@SecondRikudo that's the same thing as asking why the derivative of ln(x) is 1/x. The fundamental theorem of calculus proves that the inverse of a derivative is an intergral.
 
@towc @SecondRikudo just sayin khan academy has really nice lectures on the subject.
 
as long as they don't go with this look I think it'll be okay
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum less than delta is less than epsilon? is that a typo or a thing?
 
4:06 PM
Yeah, Khan academy is good, I have a good resource in Hebrew if you'd like @SecondRikudo but it'll take some time.
 
He literally looks like Dr Strange :-/
 
@towc you won't get it immediately from reading that :P It's a hard definition to grasp at first.
 
ofc the ones I'm posting that look good are renders
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum I'm actually interested, would be happy if you could spare some links
 
4:06 PM
but it shows the potential he has
 
I have a better option for cumberbatch :-/
 
Alright @BenjaminGruenbaum I'm heading out
 
Ehh, it's been a long time since I've really been impressed by anything Johnny Depp has done.
 
y!=0, E dy != 0 | (x[L] - x ) < dy: x - f(x) < y
 
4:07 PM
@Retsam you might not have recognized him
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum that's what I think I got, if it makes any sense ^
 
Start here @SecondRikudo .
 
@darkyen00 I was just looking at his IMDB, so, not an issue.
 
!!nudge 300m take the socks out
 
4:08 PM
@SecondRikudo Nudge #3 registered.
 
(Don't ask)
 
wait, is ln(x) the limit of d/dx x^y as y => 0?
I probably am bad at this
 
@Retsam ^ thats all jhonny depp
 
4:09 PM
@darkyen00 How goes your react/flux work?
 
when my kid will be in school and we'll have to do his homework with integrates and limits and stuff... ugh
 
@Shmiddty going good :-)
 
@darkyen00 So he has a good makeup/costume artist.
 
I use Delorean though
@Retsam hes versatile and suits comical roles more
 
@FlorianMargaine I went all the way through high school with no calculus. Unless you have a higher standard of education... yeah, you probably do.
 
4:10 PM
never mind no character can be deadpool, deadpool is more awesome then awesome
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum english version XD?
 
@darkyen00 Did you see Sherlock?
 
4 mins ago, by darkyen00
@towc @SecondRikudo just sayin khan academy has really nice lectures on the subject.
 
@Retsam yes.
@BenjaminGruenbaum probably the only good advice i have given in this room.
 
@darkyen00 Delorean?
 
Just makes it easy to write stuff with react / flux flow
 
The internet's obsession with deadpool is getting old...
 
@Retsam they haven't launched something deadpool enough :P
 
4:12 PM
@Retsam being honest playing sherlock well doesn't make him suit the dr strange, did you read the comics ?
@BenjaminGruenbaum :-)
imdb.com/title/tt1211837 < Despite the fact they have confirmed him... I am skeptical :P
vimeo.com/69782387 < have you seen that one @Retsam ?
 
Don't really care to watch videos about Dr. Strange. You have your opinion, I have mine, agree to disagree, I suppose.
 
You should see the char though :3
 
MLM
I released my first npm package last night :) - gulp-css-spriter. Sprite Sheet Generation from CSS source files. I am very curious to hear to some feedback.
 
user1596138
@HatterisMad he's just really really stupid
 
user2620028
No im not!
 
user2620028
4:20 PM
Sorry. used to being the accused
 
user2620028
How have you been hawins?
 
Ugh what a crappy commute
 
user1596138
@HatterisMad My brother in the ditch I meant..
 
user2620028
Hahahaha didn't know it was your brother :)
 
user1596138
Ooh shit how have I been? I told you about the girl drama right? Hahaha yeah I've been interesting
 
4:22 PM
could any one letme know how can i take the snapshot of my web page that contains graphs and charts . using html2canvas lib i am able to get only text into work , could anyone help me out for correct approach
 
user1596138
But there's enough snow people are getting stuck everywhere.. So I'm doing pretty damn good :)
 
user2620028
@Jhawins you told me the beginning of the girl drama, i didn't get to hear whether samantha threw her sex toy away yet or not
 
Hey cool, somebody put a bounty on my answer stackoverflow.com/a/24458589/774078
 
user2620028
@jhawins making some money with a winch?
 
Is there a way to find out who did it?
 
user1596138
4:23 PM
@HatterisMad ..what?
 
user2620028
@jhawins lol nothing. I never heard the end of the story
 
user1596138
@HatterisMad No I just drive around in it for fun haha. I was climbing ditches an shit and tearing through fields with my bro (same one with that car) for 45 minutes and then got stuck on some uphill ice and wss like oh shit what?? Turns out I never locked the hubs in and we were playing in 2wd the whole time ;P
 
@Jhawins @HatterisMad any help brother
 
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@Gajini don't ping me.
 
ok
 
4:26 PM
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Marvel movies encourage fans to buy and act like the characters in order to impoverish the citizens and destroy world peace and the Japanese take advantage of this confusion to sell biological weapons to Islamists who want to kill Americans.
 
@SterlingArcher - it was the Lemon !
 
@rlemon did you bounty me again?
 
@MLM congratulations for releasing a package and thank you for your contribution! Your code could take a review from the little I've seen, even though it's globally fine. I'm on mobile though, SL I won't be able to do it.
 
If so, thank you :)
 
4:28 PM
!!afk out fishing !
 
user2620028
Damnit, it was Marvel all along
 
user1596138
@Catgocat Context?
 
user2620028
Does that even need context? lol
 
@Jhawins Ant-man
 
@SterlingArcher maybe
maybe you're dreaming all of this
Repception
 
4:29 PM
@Catgocat wat
 
@rlemon Reminds me of how when I asked someone why the sky was blue, on 2 distinct occasions, I've got, "It reflects the seas"
 
@Catgocat ants don't cause poverty.
 
The 2 instances were different people
 
@SomeGuy well. they were close
 
@ssube That is exacly what they want you to think, if you think about it.
 
4:29 PM
Best brainfart ever.
@rlemon How?
 
at least they didn't say something totally left field.
@SomeGuy backwards is still close.
 
user2620028
The sky does not reflect, it refracts iirc
 
"Because God decided it"
 
"why is the sky blue"
"because pancakes taste like chicken"
 
MLM
4:30 PM
@FlorianMargaine Thanks, I'll look into improving it. A couple things I didn't quite like when developing were some of the variable names like chunkData and the names of the split off modules in /lib.
 
@HatterisMad Yeah, it has nothing to do with any water bodies
 
Pancakes taste like chicken?
 
user2620028
@SomeGuy There goes my lunch money :(
 
@SomeGuy but the water is blue for a reason (well, multiple reasons that play together, but that is moot) .. I was just commenting that they were close, they just had it a little backwards.
 
@MLM there are 2 hard things in programming: naming things and cache invalidation
 
MLM
4:31 PM
If you get some time later to give some more specifics, I'm all ears. ;)
 
I'll try
 
Isn't the line: "there are 2 hard things in programming: naming things and cache invalidation and off-by-one-errors" ?
 
user2620028
@jhawins just started looking at jobs in thailand.... for an entry level programmer, the pay is like $800 a month for full time or 6 days a week
 
@Retsam no, that's the joke. The original is untouched.
Well, AFAIK. I may be wrong though, I often am.
 
@SomeGuy lol
then why is it red/orange at night.. and why is it never green
those silly heads.
 
4:37 PM
did you know that the sun goes below the horizon before it disappears from sight?
air is crazy
 
user2620028
@kendall are you talking about the time difference in it happening and the light reaching our eyes, what kind of perception are you taking here?
 
did you know that the bird is the word?
 
@HatterisMad that's a stupid misconception, it has nothing to do with the earth's rotation
 
user1596138
@HatterisMad Is that a good thing? :/
 
user2620028
@jhawins that is like $5 a day i think
 
4:39 PM
the sun is staying still, so there's no such thing as "where it was"
@HatterisMad an hour, maybe
 
user2620028
The sun has no velocity at all? Measured how?
 
user1596138
5 hours ago, by Neil
Jesus saves, but Satan performs incremental backups.
 
user2620028
kendall a day man
 
@HatterisMad relative to Earth
 
user1596138
Well then. @Neil I really want to understand this joke
 
4:41 PM
that is, the relative velocity of the sun is negligible compared to the speed of light
 
user1596138
@DrogoNevets has been gone for quite awhile :(
 
user2620028
going to bed
 
user2620028
good night all
 
@Jhawins It's just a pun on the word "saves", I think. I don't think there's any deeper logic there.
 
Starting my monthly challenge... gotta figure out what the hey RxJS is
 
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4:42 PM
@Retsam Ah I assumed it was clever
 
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@NickDugger JS by prescription?
 
^ Might be a good resource for people interested in the challenge. Or I'm misremembering what's in the video I just shared.
Still interesting, etiher way.
 
What's the difference between React and RxJS? I can't tell if they do the same thing, or not. React has better documentation
 
MLM
@NickDugger RxJS is all about streams. Everything is s stream. React is about virtual dom and diffing the changes to the real dom to make it performant
 
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4:45 PM
@KendallFrey ... relative to CMB tho brah
 
@Jhawins CMB doesn't affect light travelling in the solar system
 
user1596138
See direct reply
 
The monthly challenge is odd then, right? It wants us to make a game in the DOM? That doesn;t seem right
 
I'm not even sure if "relative to CMB" is meaningful
 
user1596138
Totally is. wtf
 
4:46 PM
I think it is, but not convinced
 
user1596138
I learned this in a church.
 
user1596138
So it must be true
 
MLM
@NickDugger I think it is. This comment in that video cleared that up for me
 
user1596138
But no. Psh. I know for damn fact that we measure speeds relative to CMB
 
@Jhawins "we" being?
 
user1596138
4:47 PM
The milky way's velocity is measured with respect to CMB, and then we can measure our solar system/sun/other things relative to that
 
user1596138
We being the world.
 
user1596138
Google it
 
I know for damn fact that travelling at .9999c won't affect the dynamics of the solar system
We don't measure Earth's speed relative to CMB
 
@MLM So, we are rendering a game in the DOM? seems so damn wrong... lol
 
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33 secs ago, by Kendall Frey
I know for damn fact that travelling at .9999c won't affect the dynamics of the solar system
 
user1596138
4:49 PM
^ most randomest
 
@NickDugger Check out the video I linked; pretty sure they're using the React/RxJS
 
user1596138
@KendallFrey Maybe you're picking at words
 
You're the random one, bringing up an argument that has no bearing on what I said
 
user1596138
You mean "that's not the only way we can do that"?
 
MLM
@NickDugger I am not totally sure, still watching the video to see what she does.
 
4:49 PM
@Retsam yeah, watching it now
 
user1596138
10 mins ago, by Kendall Frey
the sun is staying still, so there's no such thing as "where it was"
 
user1596138
This is what I replied to. That is all.
 
user1596138
!!google velocity of the sun
 
user1596138
> Because the Milky Way is moving with respect to the cosmic microwave background radiation (CMB) in the direction of the constellation Hydra with a speed of 550 km/s, the Sun's resultant velocity with respect to the CMB is about 370 km/s in the direction of Crater or Leo.
 
You are correct in the larger system
 
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4:50 PM
Awwwwwwww shiiiiiiiit
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum explanation needed for the challenge, can you update the readme of the repo?
@BenjaminGruenbaum specifically, @NickDugger is confused. Update the repo anyway for next challengers that may be confused too.
 
@Jhawins So our galaxy is moving to hail Hydra?
 
user1596138
Yes. Hail Hydra
 
@Retsam You forgot about Hydra's velocity
I think we're moving toward Andromeda, relatively speaking
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum clarification on my confusion; React makes DOM? Does that mean that we're creating a game in the DOM instead of on canvas?
 
4:52 PM
Yes, it does.
I'm kind of busy atm
 
user1596138
I think worms are slimy, relatively speaking
 
user2620028
If anyone has any good advice on finding a remote job in the United States ping me puhlease lol
 
user1596138
@HatterisMad that was fast lol
 
@Jhawins not relative to your genitals
#shortsfired
 
user1596138
My genitals velocity is measured relative to your moms genitals with which they are constantly making contact
 
user1596138
4:54 PM
Like Newton's cradle...
 
user2620028
@jhawins looking at the job market in thailand, i dont want to touch it with a ten foot pole. They want someone who will work till they die on a project they don't care about to make dollars a day. 6 days a week.
 
user1596138
Did you research this before you moved? :P
 
user2620028
@Jhawins moved with the assumption i would not be able to get a job here anyways.
 
@Jhawins "contact" is not well-defined.
 
user1596138
@KendallFrey It sounds like "ssssssck ssssck sssssck"
 
user1596138
4:58 PM
> Jhawins: I need to know your schedule for the week
S: *sends very ambiguous and not comprehendible schedule back*
Jhawins: I need to clarify what you meant with your schedule it doesn't make any sense to me
S: No, no need to clarify AGAIN, I'm not an idiot. I will and planned on (after our discussion), once again, sending in the daily email of what my day consisted of ie: where//who
Jhawins: ...
 
user1596138
My day doesn't make any sense.
 
user1596138
I need to slap a hoe (joke)
 
user1596138
@Loktar AWESOME
 
pretty cool
 
5:00 PM
@Loktar start setting coworkers pcs to .1x and watch them bug out.
 
apparently in Canary 41 I guess
@rlemon haha
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum it's ok if you're busy, pings work so that you can come back when you're less busy :)
 
!!cap?
yay! missed my nudge XD
 
Hey are their any bower solutions for libraries that have the same function name?
 
@Zirak this has been happening a lot lately
 
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5:12 PM
@NickDugger I guess lollipop came out for our phones you install it yet?
 
I haven't seen an update come across my screen. How would I check?
I had an old phone for too long, no idea how to use these new devices lol
 
The new lollipop style is growing on me.
 
user1596138
I guess somewhere in settings. It gave me an alert
 
yea, settings, about, check for updates
 
user1596138
But I;ve been ignoring the bullshit update for 3 months so actually? I'm pretty sure this one is full on lollipop tho. They released it everywhere else in december
 
5:14 PM
@Luggage that just checks for app updates
 
Negative. You do that in the 'play store'.
Settings, About Phone, 'System Updates'.
 
I don't seem to have an andorid update
 
user1596138
I don't want to lose root so
 
if you have root you might not get or be able to apply that updates
 
user1596138
@NickDugger It's coming in waves. I have the ATT one
 
5:17 PM
I'm on sprint
 
IS this the moto x you're talking about or somerthing else?
 
user1596138
@Luggage Haha ofc. It comes up and freaks the fuck out :)
 
user1596138
LG G3
 
decent looking phone. You like it?
 
5:21 PM
So far, yeah. I might like it even more if I could get dat lollipop
 
user1596138
It's stupid
 
I gave up on naming things.
function processIncomingData() {
 
user1596138
@Luggage The battery is 150% the size of a comparable phone... But with a display at 1440x2560 it has the same or worse battery life (SOT is like ~6 hours for me)
 
@rlemon dear
 
Ok the monthly challenge seems pretty cool
 
5:24 PM
@FlorianMargaine it gets better!
function getSerialInformation() {
	return new Promise(function(resolve, reject) {
		serialPort.list(function(err, ports) {
			if( err ) return reject(err);
			resolve(ports);
		});
	});
}
 
I may participate if I can find the time and the motivation
 
I'm about to give up on the monthly challenge. React is confusing, so far
 
var Promise = require('bluebird');
Promise.promisifyAll(serialPort);

function getSerialInformation() {
    return serialPort.listAsync();
}
 
Just pretend you're working with dom elements
 
ohh and SO MANY GLOBALS!
@FlorianMargaine yea I'll get around to it
making it 'work' first
 
5:25 PM
but... it's simpler
 
probably the wrong way to do it, but I make things work then I refactor till they're pretty
 
you don't even need the function tbh...
@rlemon nah, I do the same too. But in this case...
 
@FlorianMargaine ... i've already written the code and moved on to another part of the program ;)
so i'll take care of that later :P
 
am I the only one getting a 500? developer.chrome.com/extensions/optionsV2
@rlemon I see
 
@Loktar another nw question. using ST is there a plugin or a <insert voodoo> I can use to automagically build my project on save, similar to livereload
or anyone who knows ^
 
5:29 PM
if you have two libraries that each have a function with the same name, what should you do?
 
neat
 
I thought gulp/grunt/file watchers did that for you?
 
I don't use task watchers/runners
I'm a bad programmer
 
oh ok
they're so great
they save so much time
 
5:30 PM
0
Q: The method getSettings() is undefined for the type CordovaWebView

Alex StaneseHello I need some help regarding the communication between crosswalk and java. I used to create phonegap apps and now I implement the code into crosswalk. Before, in phonegap apps, I used to add these lines in Java: JavaScriptInterface jsInterface = new JavaScriptInterface(this); appView...

 
I know I should. I just haven't gotten into them yet
they intimidate me thus far
 
fair enough. I was thrown into them myself with the new job
 
but node did as well before I took the time to get into it
 
I still don't know how to configure one
 
!!afk COFFEE!!!!!
 
5:31 PM
hmf
I want to use this
but I'm on chromium 39.
 
> Need to check if you got meaningful input from a user
 
FML.
of course, 40 is beta.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum: Seriously?
You would use foo == false instead of !foo for that?
 
@ThiefMaster he wouldn't, he just showed valid use cases
 
I'd say a use case where something else is much cleaner and more readable is not a valid one ;)
 
5:38 PM
What if some other condition controls whether you're checking input or not?
foo == expectingInput?
 
if( foo.value == 99 ) console.log( ' you have a lot of beer left' );
 
@rlemon yeah what @Shmiddty said
I use a gulp watcher to just rebuild
 
After this case, and the other case, we only have one case left!
 
yea I'm going to dig into gulp today
 
@rlemon === :)
 
5:48 PM
morning
 
how do i modal a form?
 
morning?
oh, yeah, time zones :p
 
it would be dynamically generated, so i would need to do some spa on it
 
@eyeLoveFiddle you put it into a container and fade out the underlying page
 
"Spa" on it.
 
5:49 PM
@eyeLoveFiddle There is no built in way in html. You just make a div that's positioned how you like. There are lots of libraries / stylesheets that can do it for you. Bootstrap is one. There are many others.
 
modals are easy purecss now
 
True.
 
!!google pure css modal
 
have a little js triggering it
 
5:50 PM
even the bootstap one is mostly css with a little bit of javasscript to show/hide programatically
 
wham bam thankyou eyeLoveFiddle
 
yep, like a single page application
 
there was a nice one I found yesterday
/me looks
 
IF you'd like to make one from scratch then you'l have a div that covers the whole screen to prevent/catch clicks, than a div on top of that to BE the modal.
 
i'm confused by the jquery one
can you fiddle an example?
 
5:52 PM
the jquery ui one? It should have an example already
 
mark out how to pass the data
 
do you have a more specific question about it?
 
@rlemon well thanks buddy :) I really appreciate it
 
how do you use them to send the data?
 
5:53 PM
@ThiefMaster == is horrible I don't use it at all I'm playing devil's advocate
 
@eyeLoveFiddle the form inside of it you control. it is a regular form
 
I was making the point Programmers.SE is stupid :D
 
@eyeLoveFiddle You'll ahve more luck making a fiddle with your problem, then asking for help. Not so many people will want ot create an exmaple for you when there are some on jqueryui's site.
 
@Luggage I think he/she is asking how to post the data now
 
won't it redirect the whole page?
 
5:54 PM
ohh, ok
 
@eyeLoveFiddle google "xmlhttprequest"
 
@Shmiddty I kind of abuse react at some places
 
@eyeLoveFiddle You probably don't want to do your $.post until you click the button. That fiddle has it doing it right away. You are also just passing it a form element instead of data. What does the server expect? JSON?
 
5:57 PM
for instance a component which i know will be present here regardless, I added css powered transitions
and now paying the price :-(
 
@rlemon i already have a spa running, but not able to understand how to modal the form
 
it's just some css dude
that is it
there are like 1000 tutorials on it
 
@Luggage exactly, that's why i need to figure out how to modal it
 
I went to the store and got a sandwich and some soup. I'm full after the sandwich, but the soup is so good... what do I do?
 
@darkyen00 Most of the project I work on (at work) is not completely correct react.
 
5:58 PM
Question: Do you guys spell S-Q-L or sequel?
 
But working code wins out
 
You need to be reading on how to submit data via Ajax in jquery. The modal is not your problem.
 
@Shmiddty :D
Did you check out delorean ?
 
@Catgocat I say sequel
 
@Catgocat SQL
 
5:59 PM
and spell SQL
 
@Catgocat Depends on what we're trying to spell. If it's a book, then sequel.
 
"how to modal it" doesn't really make sense how you're saying it
 
'sequel' is the microsoft product. They just spelled it SQL
 
I say sequel because that's what other people say, but I used to say SQL before anyone told me that it had a pronunciation
 
I go back and fourth
 

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