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3:01 PM
@SterlingArcher Careful, Someone will flag you :p
 
Meh, somebody can flag my ass for all I care.
Tired of it
 
@KendallFrey Reminds me, have you guys seen all the political cartoons Dr. Seuss did before writing children's books?
 
user1596138
@NickDugger one of these days you'll learn to predict what's likely flaggable lol
 
user1596138
$bad + "this is so bad" == free pass
 
3:03 PM
is codepen.io down ?
fuck no
 
@Retsam That looks like Thidwick
 
@AbhishekHingnikar up for me
just use jsfiddle
 
!!>100/6
 
@AbhishekHingnikar 16.666666666666668
 
3:07 PM
.cont, .one-sixth { box-sizing: border-box;}
.one-sixth {
    width: 16.6667%;
    *width: 16.6357%;
    display: inline-block;
    *display: inline;
}
 
i use *{ box-sizing: border-box };
 
@AbhishekHingnikar I'm moreso worried about how to layout the header (which you've already done) and footer
as well as each indevidual 'cell'
 
 
@rlemon just use my code ?
 
yea I will :P
 
3:08 PM
xD then don't be worried.
flex-box is needed btw*
but your pure-g also used flex box so :3
 
I'm just saying what I need help on, specifically :P
 
no worries i am here to help :D
now lets make your website 10x more usable :D
 
I can tweak the flex stuff for responsiveness, no issues,
what i'm worried about is the details
how each image is displayed, how the voting / tags are displayed, how comments will look, etc.
the stuff I know you do well :P
 
@rlemon what else is needed here :-O
 
when you click through, you get this overly busy mess
 
3:11 PM
My god the horrifying accuracy...
user image
4
 
@AbhishekHingnikar go here and hover images
the little stuff like that, that is what I need most help with
the details :P
 
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@SterlingArcher lol
 
lol wow i was thinking of something like that
 
@SterlingArcher holy shit.
 
Thank god we can't spray acid at each other
We'd never make it
 
3:15 PM
Yisss!!!! got my Roomba
 
@rlemon If you don't put your cat on it in a shark suit you're failure of a human being.
 
user1596138
@rlemon Vaccum? lol
 
user1596138
Mount a tiny beta fish tank on top or something
 
@rlemon this might piss you off but can i use powerpoint xD ?
 
user1596138
Damn @rlemon is sexier than I imagined
 
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3:20 PM
 
user1596138
Look at this guy gettin all wet
 
Well he has a drawback though: he speaks english
 
@Jhawins uhhhhhh...
Is there something we don't know about you, J?
 
@rlemon you have gained pounds ... since your 17s
xD
 
3:21 PM
@FlorianMargaine Could be worse. He could speak French.
 
user1596138
Ahhh I do provoke that too much haha
 
@rlemon nice you got a roomba?
 
@Jhawins I wouldn't go saying that if I were you hahahaha
 
user1596138
@Sippy Hahaha nobody would believe it.
 
we've had a few roombas they all worked alright but we have pets
and didnt get the pet roomba
so they died after a year or so (the roombas)
 
3:24 PM
yea!
just cleaned my office
:D
@AbhishekHingnikar yup
about 20 of them
@Loktar I got the 630
it was on sale.
 
@Jhawins Haha :D
I heard Barak got banned as well, what did he end up doing?
 
@rlemon hackingroomba.com?
 
user1596138
@Sippy The guy with anti-semite avatar?
 
Was it?
 
user1596138
He probably just acted like himself.
 
user1596138
3:26 PM
Idk I forget
 
I thought it was a pic of some glasses.
Adam Barak
The Turkish guy
 
user1596138
Oh we aren't talking about the same people. Idk who that is
 
I just saw that he put up a post on Meta about trying to get some mod disciplined for something
And everyone went a bit nuts.
Lol
 
user1596138
Lets just pretend the people that we're happy aren't here... Aren't here. Haha I know I started it
 
xD
Shame zigi acted a fool, he had some tendencies of a nice guy.
Can't argue with the number of warnings he got though :L
 
3:29 PM
@Loktar I wanna see how it handles my shag rug
I think it will just avoid it
mostly I need it for the hardwood
 
hi folks, is there any difference between using string and non-string as the property name? For example, in the following I use string to specify the property name.
 
@cyanide-basedfood Welcome to the JavaScript chat! Please review the room pseudo-rules. Please don't ask if you can ask or if anyone's around; just ask your question, and if anyone's free and interested they'll help.
 
var classMates = {
"Jamie" : 20,
"Will": 21,
"Rich": 22,
"Jack": 23
}
 
"shag rug" + Brit slang = lol
 
3:32 PM
var classMates = {
Jamie : 20,
Will: 21,
Rich: 22,
Jack: 23
}
 
@KendallFrey The things you know are odd.
 
@cyanide-basedfood only some keys don't need to be quoted
 
@Sippy I watch a lot of British TV
 
@JanDvorak Thanks. is there any difference?
 
Ah.
Why.
It's all crap.
 
3:33 PM
@cyanide-basedfood only that
 
Comedy game shows
 
Eh, those are alright actually.
Which ones you watch?
 
And Top gear
 
!!> ({x:1})['x']
 
@JanDvorak 1
 
3:33 PM
QI is my favourite show
 
QI is fantastic
 
!!> ({"x":1}).x
 
@JanDvorak 1
 
@JanDvorak How the hell did you find a question about cooking on SO?
 
@Sippy either it was about cooking, or about a cooking-related database design
 
3:36 PM
Oh hahaha
 
user2620028
Top Gear UK is Gold
 
I've also seen one about dentistry. You know, the other kind of indentation.
 
user1596138
physics.stackexchange.com/questions/15855/… // cool shit didn't realize there was a physics.SE
 
user2620028
Lol yes there is.... SE is an odd place for sure but you can find some really cool stuff
 
<3 Top Gear UK
sadly I watched all the eps on netflix
 
user2620028
3:44 PM
Hawins that is just awesome...... Sadly the first thing that comes to mind is..... I should really build a very long bar. Line the bottle of the glasses with that magnet and the bar top with the superconductor and make every slide a perfect one!
 
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@rlemon Same
 
!!afk hunting slides
 
well at least he's honest
 
I'd like to see arduino.stackexchange.com grow. I'm trying to learn microcontrollers a bit
 
@taco good luck xD
var hanoi = function (disc, src, aux, dst) {
if (disc > 0) {
hanoi(disc - 1, src, dst, aux);
document.writeln('Move disc ' + disc +
' from ' + src + ' to ' + dst);
hanoi(disc - 1, aux, src, dst);
}
};
hanoi(3, 'Src', 'Aux', 'Dst');
It produces this solution for three discs:
Move disc 1 from Src to Dst
Move disc 2 from Src to Aux
Move disc 1 from Dst to Aux
Move disc 3 from Src to Dst
Move disc 1 from Aux to Src
Move disc 2 from Aux to Dst
Move disc 1 from Src to Dst
 
3:51 PM
I've made a few things with microcontrollers, but I hacked them together based on tutorials
 
user2620028
For a while i wanted to buy an arduino starter kit but knew i wouldn't have the time to fiddle with it.
 
user2620028
That might change here soon lol
 
I am not sure how first line is "Move disc 1 from Src to Dst" when we are providing value as 3
 
heh
 
user2620028
Sold my dirtbike last night. Turns out the guy that bought it knew my family hahaha.
 
3:52 PM
Well ask me anything about them. I have a basic high-level knowledge
 
user2620028
About the Dirt Bike, The Guy, or the Arduino Start Kit?
 
user1596138
@AaronSiciliano bluno is nice too
 
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For trivial stuff and learning anyway
 
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It's just a Uno with BLE
 
user2620028
The only thing that is keeping me out of arduino, other than time, is the money involved with it. It seems like a sinkhole for a wallet.
 
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3:58 PM
Yeah...
 
user2620028
Ooh that looks like fun. Is that replacing the RFC chips that were popular with that?
 
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@AaronSiciliano hey do you know much about vehicle's aerodynamics? (does rake hurt or help gas mileage or is it always going to be per-vehicle?) // sorry quick distraction
 
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If not eh but I figured I'd ask before I go and ask the guys on TRS
 
Can anyone tell me how recursion is happening in this code please ?
 
user2620028
@Jhawins Rake is LIKELY to always hurt aerodynamics. Of course it depends on the shape of the vehicle. The vehicle was made to be aerodynamic at the ride height level it was sold at. If you raise the back end of the vehicle it is exposing more surface area. Thats theoretically of course because with one of the vehicles that has a teardrop back end that all is thrown out of the window.
 
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4:02 PM
@AaronSiciliano Well after a few modifications you lose sight of the original ride height. 16 months ago.
 
user2620028
The only reason rake is put in a vehicle for performance reasons is so that whenever the vehicle accelerates so quickly it picks up the front end, the rake compensates and turns that into forward byte.
 
 
user1596138
And leaf springs sag. I was actually a little nose up. Yesterday I put the new shackles on and I have a factory looking rake
 
user2620028
@Jhawins yeah with your truck you broke that rule a while a go hahaha. To be completely honest hawins i cant see adding rake affecting your mpg drastically.
 
user1596138
It's rake vs level those are my options haha
 
4:03 PM
@AaronSiciliano not true, because rake effects downforce. At high speeds, a front-low rake will tend to create more downforce
 
user2620028
However there is an easy way to measure it. Take it to a wind tunnel with a weight scale before and after you have rake in it. However much weight was added to the vehicle just factor that in to your mpg
 
user2620028
@ircmaxell Right i am saying that the downforce is the factor causing less mpg
 
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@AaronSiciliano What rule? haha. Yeah she's had 4" of extra height since last year and now the rear is finally back where it should be. Next Monday I need to replace leaf packs (getting rid of the big plastic bloxk Ford gave me for 100% leaf)
 
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@AaronSiciliano Yeah man that's soooooo easy. Just go pull into the neighborhood wind tunnel
 
user2620028
@Jhawins i meant the keeping it aerodynamic rule. You raised the truck a lot didnt you?
 
user2620028
4:05 PM
@Jhawins being satirical :)
 
user1596138
Well the truck has gained ~3" in tires, 1.5" on the front when we redid the front end and now ~2.5" (less because of sag) on the back
 
user1596138
It's not stupid tall. Just a nice capable height.
 
does anyone know where i can find a way to format a date that will default in today date in javascript, its for a form , i got this right now
<script type="text/javascript">
document.getElementById('date').value = Date();
</script>
i would like it like 07/01/2014 format
 
@AaronSiciliano it could theoretically lessen it depending on shapes of cowels, etc. But the point was more that acceleration isn't the only reason. And adjusting rake from factory can have a negative effect on high speed stability...
 
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@AaronSiciliano I plan to wrap HD vinyl from the tow hook cross member back underneath the front axle (IFS remember) and essentially the same for my rear hitch and bumper that act like a parachute. I'm already doing 21mpg combined (19 before seafoam) and the real world estimate from others is 17 combined. I'd say a 4mpg increase is amazing for having ~2" suspension lift and 31s on a ranger
 
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4:08 PM
Although I have those 4.10 gears ;). But they were factory.
 
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@ircmaxell My big point for it is when I toss a trailer behind it or go get a yard of dirt. It's this or stiffen up the springs or get airbags. I tow
 
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Either way I have to lose 4mpg to get stock gas mileage anyway. I'll be fine
 
user1596138
Sorry to clutter the room again I know I change the subject to this a lot.
 
user2620028
@ircmaxell Yes i agree it definitely depends on the vehicle. I was referencing the reason we have rake in racecars. And as far as manufacturer specs. I think Hawins already has a lift on this vehicle?
 
anyone into interesting questions ?
 
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4:11 PM
@AaronSiciliano Ford gave me a 2" lift factory, in the form of plastic block (i36.photobucket.com/albums/e24/wilburisthecoolest/Ranger/…). When I put the explorer leaf pack on I can pull that block out and stop risking axle wrap and retain stock height with better stiffness
 
user2620028
@Jhawins dude your doing great MPG wise.
 
user2620028
And that is rather scary.
 
user1596138
@AaronSiciliano Why scary? I have the OHV 4.0, it plays nice. Wanna know what mpg I got combined in March?
 
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15.
 
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Bad alignment, bad IAC, bad MAF, missing an O2 sensor so running open loop (lol just a hole in the exhaust), vacuum leak, gunk in the differential fluid (and ford uses stuff with friction additives from the factory ugh..), bad fuel pump, don't know if the ujoints helped but the truck stopped shaking my brains out. I've not gone a full month without tearing into it this year.. But I bought it cheap and used. Just going to replace everything once and I'm almost done.
 
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4:17 PM
We replaced the entire front end in 11 hours on 1 day.
 
@JanDvorak ... wow
 
gone
 
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@Jhawins Yeah that sounds like fun. I want to take the engines out of my bike and car and polish everything. Not to mention my car needs to have the suspension gone through. I destroyed it scaring my girlfriend driving too fast lol.
 
@JanDvorak hahaha
 
4:24 PM
So trying to walk away from JQuery because...frankly I barely use it... -> I can use array.prototype.forEach instead of $.each, bluebird for promises, what good libraries out there replace $.ajax ?
 
@JimmyHoffa whats the lowest browser you have to support?
 
@Loktar doesn't matter, internal app I get to tell internal users what browser to use for it
 
there are some good micro libraries/frameworks here microjs.com/#
@JimmyHoffa ah nice
 
what's good for doing xhr requests, and has basic cross-browser support, doesn't have to be supporting a large public audience or anything, but I don't want to find out I'm using a library that only works on a particular version of one browser
 
4:26 PM
just go xhr2
 
@Loktar ? don't know it.
 
@Loktar is it simple?
 
Boss is buying me lunch and said I deserve it for working so hard this summer :)
 
4:29 PM
He's so awesome to me
OH SNAP
 
@Loktar looking at the kb of your JS is only relevant for people working on public stuff - it's the least relevant metric on a bit of JS for internal apps ever.
 
@FlorianMargaine did you offend Cap? :P
 
I... don't think so?
 
Wish I could find people analyzing more about JS libraries than just their size...
 
@rlemon how good are you with implementing grids ?
 
4:31 PM
@Loktar supported in modern chrome and FireFox?
 
like masonary ?
 
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@AaronSiciliano lol I don't want to take engines out ever... The bike is easy, but that's smal for me.
 
@JimmyHoffa var xhr = function(method, url, data) { return new Promise(function(resolve, reject) { var x = new XMLHttpRequest(); x.onload = resolve; x.onerror = reject; x.open(method, url, data); x.send(); }; }
 
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@AaronSiciliano here i.imgur.com/I1Lm6RK.jpg // yeah it's too much rake I'll fix it later
 
4:32 PM
@FlorianMargaine awesome.
thanks!
 
@JimmyHoffa you might need some helper function to serialize POST data
 
guys are the stats of caniuse.com for opera mini correct? It doesn't seem to support almost anything... even IE seems to be better.
 
@FlorianMargaine communication APIs should never be responsible for serialization in my opinion so that's how I'd want it
people combine communication and serialization so often into the same API and it often causes problems when someone wants to do something non-standard
 
the serializer could be injected in the communicator still
 
@AwalGarg it's just a GTK front-end for sed, it has very poor HTML support.
 
4:36 PM
@JimmyHoffa 'sed'?
 
user2620028
Looks like im going to have to have pizza for lunch now that i looked at lorempizza
 
user2620028
actually wait its thursday and there is a buffalo wild wings near here o.O
 
@FlorianMargaine would you like me to re-add you to the owners list or are you playing with the bot?
 
@JimmyHoffa haha... ok. But I was just wondering because when I code something, and I see how good is the browser support with caniuse, Opera mini depresses me so much more than IE.
Even pollyfills don't work with it.
 
4:41 PM
 
@AwalGarg yes, but opera mini will support new releases like this one
 
What a fun subject line to read from Backblaze.
"Pretty sure my computer is right in front of me backblaze. calm yo shit."
 
@JimmyHoffa hahahaha
 
@JimmyHoffa huh? I wasn't suggesting the size matters
 
@AbhishekHingnikar huh
 
4:43 PM
to me it sounds like you just decided to not use jQuery because its unhip in your eyes
 
yet you want some other frameworks/libraries to replace it
 
!!refresh
 
@rlemon gave me 50x
 
@FlorianMargaine there is still a bug with Cap.
 
4:43 PM
@Loktar size always matters
 
@AbhishekHingnikar works for me
!!pizza 400 400
 
@SterlingArcher its how you use dat size!!
 
broken link for me
 
@Loktar I know, but it seems the clear intent and focus of the site you linked
 
4:44 PM
Would you rather have a 6" inch sub from subway and be like "That was good but I'm still hungry" or would you rather pound a footlong and lay there in shame with your innards all torn up.
It's a clear choice.
 
@AbhishekHingnikar I've noticed it sometimes takes a long while
but then speeds up
 
they define size by measurable kb, I define a libraries size by a meaningful semantic analysis of their API
 
I'll have to investigate whether it is node/nginx/the proxy/or my script
 
@SterlingArcher yes; it is clear. Don't eat subway, simple.
 
IT WAS A EUPHEMISM FOR A PENIS DAMMIT
 
4:45 PM
@SterlingArcher I eat a footlong no problem. Man up, bro
 
@KendallFrey lolz
 
@KendallFrey I was about to say the same
 
@SterlingArcher don't eat those either...
 
foot long meatball sub. no problem.
 
Subway has good cookies too
 
4:46 PM
@KendallFrey EWWW
they purposefully undercook them so they can leave them in their for days at a time
 
foot long roast beef with swiss
OMG NOM NOM NOM
 
fully cooked they'd go stale, so it's basically lightly browned cookie dough. they're horrible
 
@KendallFrey I never would have guessed this -- but Burger King has really good cookies
 
@JimmyHoffa that is the intent to an extent, basically if you dont need 1000 features of X library use one of the ones there
 
@rlemon animation on you brah
 
4:48 PM
@JimmyHoffa undercooked >> overcooked, every single time
 
but in all honesty why look for another ajax library and just use jQ instead?
 
@AbhishekHingnikar I want to understand what you are saying.. I really do :P
but I don't
 
> Guys I hate JQ its uncool whats another random library I can use?
 
YUI
best library ever
 
@Loktar Three
 
4:48 PM
@rlemon YUI is dead
or will be anyway
 
YUI IS LOVE! YUI IS LIFE!
 
take it for YUI
 
they announced they are done
 
(what's YUI?)
 
4:49 PM
@Loktar because at large people seem to have agreed Jq is not-preferable, and upon realizing I'm not using it for anything but a couple tiny tasks, I figure I can replace it with more modern purpose-built libraries that may be better in the long run... hopefully...
 
> Therefore, we have made the difficult decision to immediately stop all new development on YUI in order to focus our efforts on this new technology landscape. This means that, going forward, new YUI releases will likely be few and far between, and will only contain targeted fixes that are absolutely critical to Yahoo properties.
@JimmyHoffa at large? Or hipsters in the JS room?
 
!!s/YUI IS/SHREK IS/
 
@SterlingArcher SHREK IS LOVE! YUI IS LIFE! (source)
 
fuck i forgot /g
-1
Q: AngularJS Nobase HTML5?

KirankamanaSome body please explain about this error, I am not able to solve . Error: [$location:nobase] $location in HTML5 mode requires a tag to be present!

 
JQ 2.0 is "modern purpose built"
 
4:50 PM
@Loktar from what I read around the internet...at large, even my boss (not hipster) has spread the rumor of the JQ being terrible. I don't necessarily believe it, but if it's the direction people are going...
 
but really seeking a new library just because seems rather silly.
haha I would argue jquery isn't going anywhere
also I would ask your boss what he dislikes about it in particular
its easy to jump on bandwagons and not have a clue.
 
@Loktar listen you sonofabitch... if I wanna troll by suggesting and obviously shitty library you just shut your pretty mouth and let me okay?!?!
OR DO I HAVE TO GET MAD!
 
@Loktar the other thing is I want to start using bluebird promises, and JQ's xhr doesn't use them
 
:tears shirt a little:
 
@rlemon I thoughty ou liked YUI because you like pure
 
4:52 PM
I like pure, but no, I dislike YUI
 
!!google YUI
 
pure is nice. I'm always in awe at how it was a product of YUI
 
!!should I upgrade you to FF32 or not
 
@rlemon You should upgrade you to FF32
 
4:52 PM
Bootstrap is a classic. A bit bloated, but classic.
I'm just discovering all it can do
 
@rlemon oh, she removed me?
 
@Loktar oh I know, like I said, he spread it blindly... I know that. "It's too large" -> Yeah, whatever that means. No reason not to stay close to what modern devs seem to be doing though, because when I get away from this project I'll probably rarely touch it, the closer to modern it is now the less legacy it will be 2 years from now...
 
didn't see it
 
@FlorianMargaine it's a known bug. Zirak keeps claiming to have fixed it
:D
 
Sort of like how you claim to be "canadian"
 
4:54 PM
k
 
@CapricaSix another library eh?
 
I do'nt buy it >:(
 
yeah, we all know rlemon lives in Chicago
 
afk, upgrading my bits.
 
also, if we need proof-ish of my location
!!> new Date().getTimezoneOffset()
 
4:55 PM
@rlemon 240
 
you can safely assume i'm on EST
 
Chicago is in EST...
 
So is a slice of Texas
 
no it isn't
Chicago is UTC
 
anyway, I can change the timezone of my computer too
 
4:56 PM
!!are you alive?
 
@rlemon Indeed
 
I have updated Caprica to the latest version of FF, in the past things have broken updating the browser. Please ping Zirak if you notice any new bugs due to the upgrade. k thanxs.
 
damnit work got in the way of our discussion
 
don't you hate it when that happens
 
m59
I'm still questioning dev/build setup stuff. On that topic, how the heck do these guys develop this? github.com/angular-ui/bootstrap
 
4:57 PM
:P
 
but yeah @JimmyHoffa since your boss seems to hate JQ I would ask him what he rather you use.
I mean he sounds like an expert
> ANY LIBRARY IS BETTER THAN JQ OMG
^ not the case.
and in fact jq 2.0 isn't bad imo
 
m59
I mean, say I cloned it... I could write some code, but how would I even run it? (there's nothing in the repo to quick start a server or any file to run anyway)
 
lol, tell him to use Zepto
best of both worlds
 
yes, you get to use your jQuery-like API, and your boss is non the wiser
 
that isn't the topic under debate
 
the question was what is better
 
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