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3:00 PM
I think edge to edge would look pretty neat
 
@AbhishekHingnikar should be fine
 
Angular people: Often times, when I see ng-include, I think "Maybe that should be a directive instead"... is that a reasonable thought to have?
 
@AbhishekHingnikar hard to say when I haven't seen any designs ;)
 
> our CSS files are actually php
which was "cool" but it's a really horrible idea
yeah, you know how everyone can choose their own colors
we do that by injecting php code inside of CSS
 
yea! 1999! woo!!!!
 
3:01 PM
Does anybody know the php.ini I would have to change to let it see the CSS files?
I have no idea what that means, aside from a bad practice
 
<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="css.php" />
 
I don't think it's a php.ini... I think it's httpd.conf
Apache decides which files are processed, not PHP
 
or keep it .php and mod_rewrite foo.css.php to foo.css
 
You might be able to do it with a .htaccess
Or do it like @rlemon
 
MOD_REWRITE ALL OF THE THINGS!
 
3:03 PM
Hmm
It might be an httpd.conf thing
 
@rlemon yeah wait
 
I thought that if a page could load something as a resource, it can also be accessible directly
 
it.. can?
 
@RyanKinal err, just realized I'm not running apache xD
 
user2620028
I hate how if you answer a simple css question then the person probably isn't going to understand you or WHY the page reacts to the css change in the way it does. I do not feel like i am helping at all, in fact probably hurting them worse because they get the solution without learning anything at all.
 
Um, using git and it's saying fatal: unable to access '[path to git]': Could not resolve host: bitbucket.org
 
user1596138
@SomeKittensUx2666 I applied to Runnable
 
I'm on a VM, but does that mean my VM can't connect?
 
user1596138
(Anyone else want me to try and be their co-worker? :D)
 
user1596138
@SterlingArcher ping from within the VM works?
 
3:20 PM
ping: unknown host www.bitbucket.org
hmm
Ahh, my ethernet connection wasn't tethered to the VM for some reason
 
placeholder, y u no let me style you :(
 
did that
had no effect though
 
m59
Again where I mark a duplicate with a great answer, and a high rep user answers anyway stackoverflow.com/q/25916676/1435655
 
node.js facebook group
> it is necessary to use mongoDB with node.js ?
 
m59
3:31 PM
should I continue to call people out for this?
 
> U cn use any db. Choice of db depends on nature of operation you will person
> people like mongo because it uses javascript as its primary language.
 
@BartekBanachewicz you didn't respond to my lounge message :D
 
> No u can use any database, but if r handling json data then I m suggesting you to use nosql database like mongodb
 
@BartekBanachewicz what operation are you person-ing?
 
Also, yeah, most node developers are retards but that's true for any practical ecosystem.
 
/reallydumbjoke
 
@Jhawins ^ thats our competitors app [suggesting if those 2 dudes were sneha ... i think we winning big way ]
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum I know, I didn't understand it :P
 
If people are using it for stuff they're actually pushing to production - it'll be full of retards
 
user1596138
lol nice
 
3:32 PM
@NickDugger I don't even. I am not sure why I'm even in that group
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum Smart people are by definition rare.
 
@BartekBanachewicz oh lol, the point is that Swift doesn't use exceptions and I've come to be totally fine with that (finally)
@KendallFrey you don't have to be smart to not be a retard :D
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum I was recently struck by realization that fail is in Monad class
I suppose that once you understand that, you don't really need exceptions
 
@BartekBanachewicz Don't use Monad class because it is full of fail
 
@BartekBanachewicz yeah, I feel I realized that in Swift just today. I don't use the Fail enum I wrote very often but I use the same principle everywhere.
If I have a method that logs a user in I'd just have an enum for that that has .Success .AuthFailure .ConnectionFailure etc.
 
3:35 PM
The only real problem is that fail :: String -> m a instead of SomeError e => e -> m a
 
Swift forces you to handle all the cases or handle a default error case. It helps that enums can have types.
 
So... I almost just lost my nickdugger.com domain name... my card on file was old, and it would have been 30 days expired tomorrow.
My current website is garbage, but I don't wanna lose the domain
 
Instead of using something like fail I use different enums everywhere.
 
@AbhishekHingnikar wait, these are not the same person ?
:P
 
Good morning
 
3:35 PM
I just enumerate the return cases. It's very nice once I got used to it.
 
yep. statically typed error checking is nice
 
software folk, anything like SolidWorks 3D CAD that doesn't cost me an arm and a leg?
 
Not using a generic Either but rather using a different enum for each scenario ended up being what I was looking for all along
@Shmiddty hey
 
but dependent types are even better :S (since you can get rid of a lot of those actually)
 
what is wrong with this thing?
 
3:37 PM
@BartekBanachewicz well, not having it in this case would be horrible because no exceptions. Then again in a dynamic language this wouldn't be needed. I still enjoy the safety.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum How's it going?
 
the moment I invoke twitters "typeahead" on some input element, it changes the colour of the placeholder
 
@BartekBanachewicz in swift, you sort of have those since in enums each enum value can have a type. You can .ServerFail with a ServerFailure or .Success with a UserData
 
ffs
 
@GNi33 code of gtfo
 
3:38 PM
@BenjaminGruenbaum I am still amazed by the ability to change divBy2 :: Num a => a -> Maybe a to :: Num a => a<divisableBy2> -> a
 
@ircmaxell @RyanKinal you're both really really old
 
I feel like it finally clicked. Also, like a retard.
@Shmiddty good, I guess
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum Things can always be better, right?
 
you basically move the "error" to upfront signature
 
@Shmiddty heh, for sure, I have bad deadlines.
 
3:39 PM
and that's really powerful
 
@BartekBanachewicz yeah, and that's amazing.
 
!!afk get in mah belley!
 
@BartekBanachewicz exactly, I can't believe I just got that. I've been using Either and fail in Haskell all the time where I should be just using my own return types. It took a language like Swift that didn't have those builtins to make me realize I didn't really need them.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum show an example of that code! :)
 
Well, I only have Swift open atm, but basically I'm writing code for all sorts of things that could fail.
(surprise surprise)
And I'm really enjoying it :)
 
3:42 PM
yeah I wanted that Swift source
if you can share it
 
Lemme find a bit
 
Here's 1
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum So looked up powershell
Is it possible to download it without all the extra 95% crap that Microsoft tries to shove in my face?
 
@IBAction func loginClicked(sender: AnyObject) {
        var alert = UIAlertView(...)
        var manager = self.di
        var login:Promise<LoginResult> = manager.login(..., password: ...)
        login.then { (result) -> () in
            var str = ""
            switch result{
            case .AuthFailed: str += " Password incorrect"
            case .ConnectionFailed: str +=  "Connection failed :("
            case .HttpStatusFailed: str += "Server failed :("
            case .Success: str += "Success!"
@BartekBanachewicz
 
@SecondRikudo You want to learn powershell?
 
3:45 PM
@Neil I want some sort of shell/terminal for Windows that doesn't suck balls
 
@SecondRikudo Powershell isn't bad
 
In MySQL, is it possible to generate INSERT statements for the content in your db?
 
It would suck less if it weren't 100% microsoft though
 
@Shmiddty shhhhh
 
@Neil Only I have to download 95% extra crap to download it
I don't want the entire fucking framework, I just want my dang shell
 
3:46 PM
@SecondRikudo Hmm, I don't know if it depends on the framework or not
that does seem like something MS would do
 
What's that you said about Microsoft having a good terminal @BenjaminGruenbaum?
Yeah, no.
 
user2620028
its maxells birthday today as well? Happy birthday man
 
@Neil what
 
@BartekBanachewicz what what
 
in the
 
3:48 PM
@NickDugger fail
 
user2620028
butt
 
It wasn't a fail, I intentionally left it open
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum nice. Do you have totality checking on that?
 
thanks!
 
@ircmaxell How old are you today?
Or have we reached the point of "not talking about it"?
 
3:49 PM
@SecondRikudo since when is "coming from MS" equivalent to "bad"
 
since ie6
 
@BartekBanachewicz Since, well, IE, Access, Visual basic, Windows, the list goes on...
 
Windows isn't bad.
 
@BartekBanachewicz MS? Bad reputation? Never!
 
Neither is every MS product.
 
3:50 PM
@BartekBanachewicz I never said every.
I said most.
Also, Windows, currently, !> Linux.
 
meh, dumb prejudices are dumb.
 
Have you used IE, though?
 
Have you used IE? :P
 
@BartekBanachewicz Did you just prejudice prejudice and call it dumb as the same time?
 
Yes. It's a very decent browser
 
3:51 PM
@NickDugger TBH, at the time, IE6 was the best browser around.
 
I have, yes. I actually used to be an IE fanboy until 8... shame.
 
IE 11 is way better than chrome on a touchscreen
 
IE8 was... less than satisfactory.
 
ie11 can suck butt
 
it was years ago FYI
 
3:52 PM
@BartekBanachewicz Who the hell gets a PC with a touchscreen?
It's an abomination.
 
lol okay
 
@SecondRikudo I did, because it detaches from the keyboard, giving me a tablet
 
whatever.
 
but I still use chrome on it
 
keep living under a rock
 
3:53 PM
I already do, if you check my description.
 
@BartekBanachewicz yes, it won't compile if I haven't exhausted the cases.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum sweet
 
( The actual code is larger and each line is a function code and not a string append )
 
I've learned recently that I need -Wall for that in GHC
I felt bad until I've realized that my code is pretty quiet under -Wall anyway
 
!!define GHC
 
3:54 PM
@SecondRikudo No definition found.
 
@SecondRikudo Glasgow Haskell Compiler
 
I got Green House Coordinator.
 
Back in my day, we used to just call that cocaine
 
I guessed it's not that :D
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum I wanted to ask :D. Looks decent.
 
3:57 PM
@BartekBanachewicz well, it's just to illustrate rhe issue, still that code has too many types.
(explicit)
 
(xzibit)
 
(xhibit a)
 
stop writing Lisp :P
 
Swift is mostly an indication that languages are finally moving forward
and in a good direction
Swift, ES7, Scala...
Rust.
 
4:01 PM
@rlemon the first guys name i forgot, second one is me
 
@AbhishekHingnikar rlemon is afk: get in mah belley!
 
and the competitors software is recognizing us as sneha
 
@BartekBanachewicz well , the type inference still hickups on nested types of nested functions which is really annoying with monadic code. You can fix it by being explicit about the types but that kind of sucks
 
oh BTW @Benjamin -Wall produces a warning for a non-explicit type of an outer function :P
so that might explain a bit WRT our last discussion
@BenjaminGruenbaum that will improve in time. It's one of the most challenging parts in a language vOv
 
sex detection is also wrong in the competitor, my how the heck did they even ship it !
 
@BartekBanachewicz also compiling is still way too slow, even with all optimizations turned off
 
what is Swift compiler written in?
The backend is LLVM I presume.
 
Son of a bitch...
 
@BartekBanachewicz I assume C or Objective-C or C++, it'll probably be eventually written in Swift as it's pretty fast.
 
Was that kickstarter for real or just an elaborate game?
 
4:05 PM
@SterlingArcher think it was a real one
 
Aside from my rage, that game looks awesome
 
wait... how's The Game involved?
@SterlingArcher ^
 
It's... the game...
 
what did it have to do with that?
 
It didn't
It's the game. I saw it, I lost.
 
4:10 PM
oooh! didn't even read XD
just watched the video
 
Happy birthday, @RyanKinal!
 
Holy balls I just found some code I wrote 3 years ago
echo "[ <a href='javascript:void(0)' onclick='$(\"#hideMe\").toggle()'>Toggle List</a> ]<br />";
I want to invent time travel just so I can slap myself
 
@SterlingArcher I do the same with the code I wrote 3 days ago
 
why not just slap your future self?
 
Because I might spawn the doom of mankind by messing with time, Jan.
 
4:16 PM
I meant the future of your past. Specifically, your current self.
 
That would be counter productive because I wouldn't learn anything D:
It's like rubbing a dogs nose in a spot they peed 3 years ago
They're gonna be like, wtf bro
 
then I suggest you forgive your past self
 
... The deed is done, sir. :D
 
@SterlingArcher slap yourself now and remind yourself why in 3 years when you find a WTF
 
Hey guys - Noobish question:
I want to get a value of class that is in ID. This is the script:
build_place = document.getElementById('cronFrame').contentWindow.document.getElementById('l_place').getElementsByClassName('label').innerHTML;

The HTML is:
<div id='l_place'><span class='label'>1</span></div>
 
4:24 PM
@SterlingArcher you better not let people know it was your code
 
Anyone else using the Minuum keyboard? I'm not sure I like it. I've gotten so used to the swype style keyboard that Minuum just feels slow and clumsy
 
user2620028
i try not to use swype as much as possible but to my knowledge i can't disable it on my phone
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum the pre-emptive slap, I wonder if anybody has done that and actually remembered "Oh yeah, I slapped myself in 1997 for doing that.."
 
I've never really found self flagellation to be productive.
 
4:45 PM
@towc I can't stand that drag and drop crap
 
@rlemon you aren't the target audience for drag-and-drop
 
@rlemon I probably wouldn't aswell, but I don't think that most gamers who can feel code for the first time would mind
 
@Shmiddty it's a game for programmers. I am the target audience ;)
@towc they should offer me an api/console mode ;P
 
@rlemon It's a game to boost interest in programming
 
^
 
4:46 PM
@rlemon They mentioned being able to code directly with javascript in the info
 
ahh
 
@rlemon that would be cool
 
it looks pretty neat
 
So many possible regex jokes. Can't decide D:
 
I just got like 2 minutes into the super laggy video
 
4:46 PM
a game that you need to crack through the console to win
 
closed it and went down the images
 
@towc there is one like that
I need to play it damnit.. I grabbed it a while ago
/me tries to find it
 
@Loktar tell me when you did!
 
Hack n Slash
 
@rlemon did you ever play Diablo 2?
 
4:47 PM
yes
 
@rlemon worked fine for me
 
did you ever use bots in D2?
 
I wonder if there has been upgrades to Overgrowth
 
@towc my internet can be shit at times
@Shmiddty nope
 
4:48 PM
@SterlingArcher man.. speaking of an amazing programmer
 
I wrote macro's for ultima online
 
that guy is so fucking awesome
 
but you actually wrote that code.
 
@rlemon Probably pretty similar there.
 
@SterlingArcher you see his update about blood?
 
4:48 PM
Wolfire?
> I was dropkicked into a wall so hard my game crashed....
11/10
LOL
 
I would grind in d2 while my macro was running on UO
 
@rlemon When you got heavy into botting, you would alter the scripts and customize them for your own needs
 
best of both worlds.
 
It's basically what encouraged me to get into programming
 
ahh, yea I was already into programming before that
 
4:49 PM
@Loktar like, js console
 
TNG got me into programming
 
^ so cool.
@towc yeah kind of you "hack" the game to beat it
 
ohh and I would macro the playstation
 
sounds really interesting I have yet to play it though Ill try to tonight
 
Anyways, grandpa, I'd love to see a game where scripting/automation was supported natively. I think it'd be interesting
 
4:50 PM
setup a battle in FFT, get some rulers, pencils, rubber bands, books, and press down the appropriate button / buttons
walk away
 
kind of like those tank battle AI games, but much more depth
 
@Shmiddty already posted a link.
Hack n Slash.
 
@Loktar not really hacky enough... the game gave the user a pretty nice UI to hack, and you don't really need any hacking/programming skills to beat it. Still pretty good
 
@Loktar that intro video is painful
like... PAINFUL
 
lol those blood squirt effects are awesome
 
4:51 PM
@rlemon haha yea
video 2 is better
shows how the game works
I think its a pretty sweet idea overall
 
@Loktar I'll have to check that out
 
@Shmiddty yeah its probably more of a hybrid of what you want
its not hardcore programming
 
right
 
but its a step in the right direction
 
Overgrowth looks like it's going to be one of the most fun combat games I've seen in a while
The amount of detail into every aspect of the fights is incredible
 
4:54 PM
yea man
 
might give it a shot
looks interesting
 
@Loktar the heck is that, a bleeding simulator?
 
@KendallFrey fight simulator
 
can I edit the assembly? or do I have to go into the room and do it in game?
 
I still need to check out Goat Simulator as well
 
4:57 PM
it was fun for like 25 minutes
 
I hate those games
"It looked like so much fun when Markiplier did it!"
 
Goat Simulator..?
 
@Jhawins I saw!
 
@SterlingArcher .... BRO! DO YOU EVEN INTERNET?!
 
@m59 Get the gold JS badge and ÜberBan
 

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