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5:00 PM
Someone feel like a close vote, I need one more stackoverflow.com/questions/25792469/…
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum I guess it wouldn't be nice of me if I just removed an entire list item of yours
 
@KendallFrey done
 
@JanDvorak why?
 
need to disable a jQuery UI tooltip : can't seem to reach it.. it is an IMG child of ui-datepicker-trigger class: $(".ui-datepicker-trigger > img" ).children().tooltip("disabled");
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum I would change the meaning of the post, wouldn't I?
 
5:02 PM
@JanDvorak no, I mean - why do you want to remove it?
 
@JoJo never heard of a tooltip method of jQuery. Also, images don't have children.
 
the button element has the IMG child element
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum I might want to keep the 10k flags for cases that are universally bad and deserve a lengthy break on their own
@JoJo children would select the children of the image
 
@JanDvorak awesome thanks
 
@JanDvorak wouldn't it be better if X mod flags suspended the user and notified a mod?
 
5:04 PM
@BenjaminGruenbaum custom flags should never have automatic actions
 
@JanDvorak Like they do now?
 
@JanDvorak to be fair in over a year I haven't really seen spam/offensive flags do anything useful.
 
@Zirak do they?
 
blah.. I still can't reach it.. $(".ui-datepicker-trigger > img" ).click(function (){alert("hello")});
 
@JanDvorak Yes? Enough flags and a user is automatically suspended.
 
5:06 PM
@BenjaminGruenbaum I've validated quite a few foreign-language ones
 
@JanDvorak that you actually understood?
 
@Zirak those are spam/offensive flags
 
I don't validate nor do I invalidate these simply because I don't understand them
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum the official stance is "if any concern is raised about foreign-language posts, validate the flags"
 
Why? If someone just said "hello there" in a foreign language where everyone else speaks in that language in the room that's not offensive
 
5:09 PM
ok... what about handling spam? One minute is not enough of a punishment
 
@JanDvorak a mod flag, a mod can really handle these things better.
They can remove the user from the chat for days, or give them a stern look.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum not too fast, though. And kickban + mod-flag seems like an overkill
 
user1596138
@JanDvorak Second time is 5 mins and mods get notified
 
@Jhawins nope. A mod-flag is raised after the third kick
 
user1596138
kickmute is a mod flag if you use it twice... Basically.
 
5:10 PM
thrice
 
user1596138
@JanDvorak Then what is the time limit progression? I had a mod be notified on a 5 min kick.
 
user1596138
1min -> 5min -> 5min again?
 
1:5:repeat 30
 
@towc @NickDugger
the boy likes cheese
 
user1596138
@JanDvorak ...I'm having trouble understanding this.
 
5:12 PM
I love cheese too
mmmm
 
user1596138
1 -> 5 -> 30?
 
@Jhawins minutes
 
user1596138
@KendallFrey No he said "1:5:repeat 30" what the fuck does that mean haha
 
@Jhawins first is one minute, second is five minutes, all further are 30 minutes each
 
@Jhawins split on :
 
5:12 PM
@Jhawins that's in Haskell
 
user1596138
@JanDvorak Then mod flags are raised before thrice.
 
31
A: Impose a re-entry delay on users kicked out of a chat room

balphaThis has been implemented now. The short story is: room owners can kick abusive users, who will then be banned from re-entering the room for a certain time. Of course you want not just the short story but all the dirty details, so here they are: In the user popup that appears when you click on ...

 
user1596138
Because I kicked @twoc and it was 5 minutes, and mods were informed.
 
third kick of the same guy or by the same guy
 
user1596138
lol idgaf what the doc says. I'm telling you what happened ~20 minutes ago :P
 
5:14 PM
I didn't see that. I did see the docs, though
 
user1596138
.
 
user1596138
Could've been this
 
sounds likely
 
user1596138
.
 
user1596138
Or that but I didn't think I did it 3 times.
 
user1596138
5:16 PM
It's in the link why am I reposting lol
 
so that my reply makes sense, perhaps?
 
So, jsh is live, kind of. Source here, example session here. Bug reports more than welcome.
5
(both the name and the session id are sucky by accident...)
Anyway, have fun
 
Save doesn't work and I'm not sure how to run the code :P
 
@Zirak seeeeexxxxxyyyyyyyy
 
It's currently Chrome only for bizarre reasons
 
5:19 PM
@Zirak more info? Never seen this before
Kind of like a jsbin for console?
 
bug #1: doesn't work in Firefox
 
@taco It's the dev tools console, just as a page. See the README for motivation.
 
really cool, @Zirak.
 
@Zirak when would it get a prettier url so I don't need to bookmark this super awesome thing?
 
^^
 
5:21 PM
@AwalGarg That's a really good question. Uhh...yes. Definitely.
GAE turned out to be a bitch about this
 
@Zirak I can link motherfucking.codes to it :P
 
@Zirak thanks for making that, and double thanks for making that free :) You've done a great job man! I see it as a handy utility in my due course of learning JS.
 
user1596138
<?php if ($login): ?>
  <p>You aren't logged in</p>p>
<?php else: ?>
  <p> Welcome! </p>p>
<?php endif; ?>
 
user1596138
HAHAHAHAHAHA
 
user1596138
I'm sorry for the PHP. But this is terrible.
 
5:23 PM
@AwalGarg Thanks, hopefully it'll be useful
 
definitely :)
 
user1596138
I wish we could have a collab console in the chat room
 
@Jhawins caprica
 
user1596138
@AwalGarg Is nothing close to a console.
 
(which is again made by @Zirak, ofcourse!)
 
user1596138
5:27 PM
yup
 
balphaaaaa!!!! we need a collaborative console in chat!!!
 
user1596138
...
 
user1596138
!!afk
 
@rlemon I gives points for consistency. Mine had terminator and harry potter, which isn't very consistent at all lol
 
user1596138
It took what like 2 years to get a kick feature? Yeah go ahead ask for a console lmao
 
5:29 PM
@NickDugger I could clean up the hat and his cutout better
but after ten minutes I felt it was time to get back to work
 
I felt like I had eyes over my shoulder, so It took me longer to make mine. Didn't want to get scolded for photoshopping terminator during work hours
 
moooornin
@SomeKittensUx2666 beta consumer rifts are coming out summer of 2015
 
!!ln
 
@Zirak ln target link_name
 
5:31 PM
sudo apt get
 
@Loktar so I can only feel superior for 9 months?
 
haha yea
 
Sigining a lease right meow :3
No more shitty apartment!
 
> kick-mute this user WOOOOHOOO
 
@SterlingArcher got a house?
 
5:33 PM
@FlorianMargaine jsh is "live", check starred messages
 
@rlemon not quite, a house is too expensive. We got a big townhouse though
 
@Zirak awesome
my nitpicks are mostly design-related
 
0
Q: PHP SOAP: Php isnt passing new argument correctly

Mauricio SchellI have a app working with Soap WebService and all things works fine till now. I had to add new field at my soap to diff VIP and Normal customer. So, when im using SoapUI works rly great but when im using php (u can see down here) simply doesnt work. My php application isnt passing the "classe" ar...

 
Isn't that save button sexy? :P
 
5:35 PM
that and the font-size... I'd increase it a bit
 
> In addition, the user is automatically banned from creating new rooms and from sending invites.
niiiice
 
@SterlingArcher I could buy a house right now. but you get better interests and a better mortgage if I have 20% downpayment
I have like 12% atm
 
smart lemon
 
is it similar in the states?
20% is pretty much the cut for better interest rates
 
yeah, with few exceptions
In other words, I'll need at least $100,000 before I can buy a house out here
 
5:37 PM
60K for me
 
We're going from 2 bedroom, 1 bath, 920sq ft to a 3 bedroom, 2.5 bath, 1411 sqft townhouse
3 people, 1 bath room does not work out well
 
in France downpayment doesn't really matter... it's how much you can pay/mo, that's it
 
I got into my house with a first time homebuyers program, then refinanced with 20% which was only 12K ($65K house). House payment is less than 400
 
In France, apartments lease you.
 
It was a bachelor pad though, 900 sq ft
 
5:40 PM
My plan is to save up and move back to NE US and have 80%+ down payment
 
nice
 
@SomeKittensUx2666 just not Ohio. That place is the pitts
 
heh I got mine with no downpayment and the gov paid me 8k :P
 
Ohio isn't really NorthEast
 
probably going to sell in a year or two
 
5:40 PM
@Loktar Detroit?
 
First Homeowner grant thing, @Loktar?
 
More like New England so I can chill with @SimonSarris
 
@SterlingArcher yeah and VA loan
 
for people interested, osx style, math writing using unicode input:
http://embed.plnkr.co/jNA28BBb2JFAccPPX61p/preview
 
Very nice!
 
5:41 PM
the VA loan is fucking sweet
 
@Loktar you sonofabitch
 
one of the best things I got out of the military
 
I'll pay $300K for a POS fixer upper
 
VA != Virginia?
 
Hmm, I forgot about the VA loan
 
5:42 PM
@SterlingArcher veteran
 
Ahhhh
Did you serve or do you have family in the branch?
 
I can use my RSPs as a self loan
 
nah I did
 
$25K I can loan myself tax free and I have like 11 years or something to pay it back
 
That's cool, I didn't know that
Thank you :D
 
5:43 PM
ah yeah I was in the USAF doing web dev/admin/net admin for 4 years :P
haha np thanks man
 
How do I tell a $.when() to wait for this to finish running?
activeLists = _(nodeList.data).filter(function (val) { return val.isdefaults === 'Y'; });
 
I should've went in the Chair Force. My body is falling apart
 
user2620028
@taco what did you do to kill your body?
 
@taco you prior service?
 
user2620028
i know he was in the army during 1999 :P
 
5:45 PM
@AaronSiciliano ran in bad shoes. Ran 3 times a week. 12 mile road marches with a ?30 pound ruck sack, helment, weapon, etc
 
ahh nice
 
user2620028
@taco how long were you in service for?
 
@taco you qualify for the VA loan? If so man its an amazing entitlement
 
I could've f'd up my knees in the AF as well, though, but I hear they dont run much
 
@taco OMG - I never recovered from doing 50 mile road marches with 20lb ruck sacks in flat unsupported combat boots in the late 80's
 
5:46 PM
@taco that all changed when I joined actually they redid the PT testing
before that it was a bike test I guess
 
@Loktar I may have tried to get it, I don't remember. @AaronSiciliano I was in Communications for 4 years, 1996-200 during the IT Bubble
 
when I joined it was the run :?
ah yeah I got veteran status due to "The war on terror"
Thanks GW!
 
@jbolanos I hear you man. Those road marches are for the young. I couldn't go back in
 
I got it for Desert Storm
I'm old :(
 
@jbolanos damn nice didn't realize other vets were in here
 
5:48 PM
I was in during the peaceful Clinton years
 
haha I was a kid during desert storm :P
 
suck'a
@Loktar so was I - LOL
 
what service?
 
/'\
 
U.S. Army 10 Mountain Division, 110th Military Intelligence Battalion, Fort Drum NY
oh - forgot LRSU
 
5:49 PM
heh I expected more AF in a tech chat damn
all you army guys
 
My sister is still in the Navy, freaking squid
 
thanks for your service all you guys
 
@bingo Welcome to the JavaScript chat! Please review the room pseudo-rules. Please don't ask if you can ask or if anyone's around; just ask your question, and if anyone's free and interested they'll help.
 
Navy was my 2nd choice
 
If I didn't find my calling in life I probably would have went army/marines
 
5:50 PM
they have a good tech program as well
but screw being stuck on a ship.. or in a sub
lord that would suck
 
I would be a nervous wreck out at sea
 
Sometimes you go through the service so you can properly be prepared for your calling :) I was a supply clerk/armorer/logistics clerk. Now I'm a bloody UI Developer.
 
haha thats a pretty drastic change @jbolanos
 
@NickDugger not the right time for that one
 
5:52 PM
never know where you;ll end up
 
I was the base web admin/lead developer
 
It's always the right time for that.
 
so pretty much the same here
 
Thanks for serving a country that no longer serves its people
Not that I'd care though
 
eh every country has its issues
 
5:52 PM
In my day, if you wanted to take typing you had to take the girls typing class for a semester and then you got stuck in Home Ec. for the rest of the year.
 
@copy Yeah, we'll see about that net neutrality thing.
 
some more than others
@jbolanos on a type writer as well right?
 
In leu of binning copy imma just go smoke :P
!!afk smoke
 
@SterlingArcher I'm sure the latter is worse
 
@Loktar IBM monster with the steel ball that was all BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM
 
5:53 PM
I'm so tired of fighting the government over net neutrality... they'll go through with whatever they want.
 
@NickDugger how have you fought the gov?
did you sign an online petition or something?
That shit can be tiring.
 
if ya don't vote you don't get to complain.
 
Petitions and letters, yo
 
have to make calls
 
user2620028
Is not voting and not complaining acceptable?
 
5:54 PM
@AaronSiciliano do you even USA?
 
@AaronSiciliano haha sure
 
Voting doesn't count for shit these days
 
Voting counts for 1
 
run for a local offic
 
user2620028
@NickDugger Hey i was just contemplating... i never said i was capable or not complaining.
 
5:55 PM
okay - my belly says its lunch time since no one is going to give me an idea about my question :) LOL
 
Government: "Hmm, let's screw everyone over"
People: "No thanks"
Government: "Yes"
 
oh come on public reaction has effected many things
one of the more recent examples I can think of is our involvement with the Syrian civil war
Obama was ready to go in, and the public was like no fuck that
 
Heads up: I'm cleaning up the room access list, so this page will reload for pretty much everyone here shortly.
 
If I've learned one thing from the recent debacle, it's that no matter how hard I try, I can't spell neautrality nutrality nautrl being fair to both sides.
@balpha Thanks!
@bingo Exactly. That's what my dad did
 
@balpha thanks
 
6:00 PM
Hello, can I try to ask anybody something about webRTC
 
Let's criticize brands, 'cause criticizing unconstitutional govt programs would be poor form on the anniversary of excuse for building them.
 
@rlemon :DDDDDDDDDD
 
user2620028
oooooh its sept 11.... didnt even notice....
 
@NickDugger rlemon won by default: he had cheese in his work of art. Loads of it
 
Little do you know... there was cheese in your stomach in my photo.
 
6:05 PM
Contest: Design me a new avatar. Reward: I'll use your thing as an avatar.
2
 
NickDugger prove me that there was my stomach in that photo
 
touche'
@SomeKittensUx2666 Do we get a photograph of you to work with?
 
@NickDugger you have to make a shapeless mass of powerful cats
that's what he wants to be thought as
 
@NickDugger Yes
 
also... I changed my haircut, better change my pixel me aswell
 
@JanDvorak it is. And I've already cut way back :3 once I fix my vape pen im confident I can finish quitting
 
Though you can play off of the kittens motif like @towc suggested.
 
@SomeKittensUx2666 wait... you actually live in a body?
 
6:08 PM
Shhhh, that's what I want them to think
 
ooooh, ok
 
@SomeKittensUx2666 How often do people tell you that you look like Macaulay Culkin
 
FAR TOO OFTEN
 
by the way, you look like Macaulay Culkin.
 
I thought that was Macaulay Culkin
 
6:11 PM
user image
3
there you go
 
@SomeKittensUx2666 what's thirst games?
 
user2620028
I think he looks like the other guy that was in party monster with Macaulay Culkin
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum Our college's idea of the Hunger Games
 
Oh, I didn't know you're in college, cool :)
 
@towc I knew you'd like that
 
@NickDugger wait, what? That isn't Culkin?
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum That's an old picture
unless that was a joke?
 
yes Skittles looks like Culkin
 
@rlemon I mean, there goes my haircut... but I still love it!
 
6:14 PM
that is a pretty bauce hairdo
 
@SomeKittensUx2666 sends me pictures of his food and legs a lot
 
I've had people convinced I actually was Culkin
 
@rlemon you're right! I should put cheese all over my head!
 
^ I kinda like that song
 
6:17 PM
@towc no head cheese please
 
@KendallFrey I thought girls loved cheeseheads! (not serious)
@SomeKittensUx2666 it's nice
 
@SomeKittensUx2666 it was -_-
(I assumed that was clear since we talked about your work several times and all :P)
Ooh, that song has an accordion, awesome.
 
said no one ever
 
In practice six people found a message asking for JavaScript help in the JavaScript room offensive and that was not the first time. Now you could argue this might be a cultural problem, but it certainly seemed to require 'context' although it was definitely an OK message to post to begin with. — Benjamin Gruenbaum 29 mins ago
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum what was wrong with that?
 
6:26 PM
@towc what do you mean?
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum that message seemed pretty ok to me
can't see how did it get 7 flags
 
Read the linked post, it shouldn't have gotten 7 flags
 
exactly
 
That was my point in that comment
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum that post shouldn't have gotten a single flag O.o
Unless he was spamming..?
 
6:27 PM
yup
no
 
116
Q: Flags in chat are defective by design

Benjamin GruenbaumYes, I know the topic has been discussed before. I know that Meta already has threads that complain about how flagging doesn't work. I wanted to give a practical example. Today, a user came in to the JavaScript chat and asked the following question: Hey guys, as soon as I embed javascript,...

 
do we know who flagged it?
 
Is there a way to see how many close votes I have cast?
 
@SterlingArcher yes
goto your profile, votes tab
I have 1,179 [close] Votes Cast
 
6:30 PM
185 Votes Cast
That can't be right
Does it not count deleted questions?
 
only 185 close votes? What a noob
 
I got none :D
lol
21
A: Flags in chat are defective by design

dystroyYeah, they should totally do that

best answer ever dystroy
still... it got 21 upvotes
 
And a bounty
500 rep
 
500 rep bounty for that? xD
That's awesome
 
yeah, what's the bounty about?
 
6:36 PM
It's actually 3 bounties
 
Is there anybody who can help me for something related with webrtc
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum what do you use to compile binary modules on windows ?
for node.js
 
VC++, or just edge
 
@SterlingArcher did no one tell him deleting old downvoted closed questions is leading to a question ban?
 
@rlemon why is that? the question was harmful to the overcall community, someone told him with cv and downvotes and he deleted it
 
My boss just brought in this hot sauce for our kitchen xD
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum for some reason node-js binary modules fail to compile for me, using vs 2013 ultimate... can you help ?
 
you have a kitchen at the office? :0
 
No, busy, sorry.
 
6:42 PM
@towc improve the question
don't delete it
 
@towc Most offices do
 
@towc most offices do! They need a fridge and sink for employees to keep lunch in
and wash dishes
 
@rlemon right...
 
seriously. that is one of the flags for question bans
deleting poor questions goes against you
 
6:44 PM
in italy usually workers have a lunch break. Only very big agencies keep their workers for lunch
wasn't a sarcastic 'right', was a serious 'right'
but could not not have added ellipses
 
@towc everybody has a lunch break in america - it's law. However, many people bring their lunch to work instead of going out, so they need a place to store their food for a few hours
 
oh. Italians eat at home
 
it's the same everywhere
@towc did you work at several agencies?
 
@copy are you replying to my mail now ?
 
I'd go home to eat but home is 1.5 hours away
 
6:47 PM
@SterlingArcher I think what he meant is that big companies can have a company's restaurant
 
@FlorianMargaine yep, all of them
 
@towc I have a 45 minute commute on a good day. No way in hell I could go home for lunch
 
@FlorianMargaine OHHH
 
my father usually eats lunch at the office, but he works in a quite big non-italian agency. The rest I've heard from schoolmates and other friends, apparently the average parent has a 1:45h break to go home and have lunch
not sure if it's because their kids don't know how to prepare lunch, so the office allowed them to or if it's a common thing in italy
 
anyone here knows how to enable directory listing in nginx? I tried setting autoindex to on but it is not working...
 
6:51 PM
@AbhishekHingnikar There's not much to say, is there?
 
@copy some stuff changed since i wrote that email
like a vc got actually interested, and hes... german
 
@AbhishekHingnikar I have heard that VCs are not nice people... is that true?
 
what's a VC?
 
Venture Capitalist
 
google says Venture Capital... doubt it
oh...
eheh
 
6:55 PM
they come to you, give you money and take your free DOM
 
seems awesome!
 
VCs are basically school teachers in black suits
 
Somebody please close this one, guy abandoned the question and left it open stackoverflow.com/questions/25793262/…
If VC's are generally not nice people why do some people refer to them as VC angels?
 
Anyone around to help me with a question about MutationObservers?
Namely: Besides onkey and onchange, is there a more modern way to observe changes in the contents of input elements?
 
6:59 PM
Define "modern"
 
ES6
 

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