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4:00 PM
It seems you've got a good handle of the basics
 
I get w3schools results all the friggin time when looking up simple commands
they have a shitload of resource pages
MDN is just better maintained with better explanations of most things imo
 
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@KendallFrey More like "Here's what X is capable of doing and how to make it do that"
 
they've definitely mastered keyword seo
 
@Neil "would be better without the jQuery" WHAT? haha I though jQuery made it way easier, and bootstrap (of course XD)
 
@taco for sure, they are amazing
I envy their SEO skills
they probably make a killing each month
 
4:01 PM
@KendallFrey Never EVER visited MDN before :S
 
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W3Schools likes to combine lots of things and feels like code snippets, not documentation by any standard.
 
@Jhawins yeah thats a good description
 
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@Frondor MDN is the javascript documentation. Basically. That's like saying you use PHP and you've never been to PHP.net?
 
@Jhawins Simply because I never used "raw javascript"
 
@Frondor You can do most of what jQuery allows you to do with few alterations
 
4:02 PM
I started directly with try.jquery.com
 
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@Frondor Aww someone's mind is about to be blown
 
This couldn't be said for certain older browsers *cough IE cough*
 
@Neil lol the most obvious statement of the year :P
 
So apparently I had it wrong, they filmed for the movie last night around 8pm. All I could get from my lunch spot is that they replaced the street signs, but they dont know what movie it is
 
since jQ is written in JS
 
4:03 PM
No, it's the other way around
 
I'm thinking its the boring MLK movie now
 
@Loktar eh, I disagree. in fact I think the opposite. someone who can see the mistakes / omissions and is just in for a quick syntax / argument refresher it is fine. someone trying to learn shouldn't have to make every mistake in the book just to find out the book was wrong :P
 
My mind is already blowing
 
Anyway let's all stop gasping in awe. As you can see @Frondor, w3schools is somewhat frowned upon, you've learned of mdn, have fun.
 
!!afk soup
 
4:04 PM
Whatever... I'm going to sell hot dogs outside a cinema
 
@rlemon the book isn't wrong
w3schools isn't wrong on many things
its just the hipster thing to hate on
 
But why learn it "wrong"
They just have an unmaintainable site is all
 
not really
 
They scatter info everywhere
 
Reading all this, now my opinion is: w3schools.com is amazing for HTML/5 and CSS, but not javascript/jQ
 
4:06 PM
Yeah, that's a good takeaway @Frondor
 
Although w3schools is kinda outdated nowadays
 
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@Frondor While you're at it I'd go look at how to really use your developer tools // that course is long, there are other ways to learn but it's worth the time either way
 
@Jhawins sync is getting moved to node.js completely
nodejs + sqlite
Hi benji :D
 
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You may already know :P. Just trying to help.
 
@Jhawins I love those courses! :D Are they free?? jQuery one worked like a charm for me, I've learn jQuery from scratch in one day
 
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4:08 PM
@Frondor Yeah totally free! Great! You'll learn so much. Dev tools stuff is simple you just need to understand what it can help you with
 
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Even if you don't use the knowledge now maybe in 3 months you'll get stuck and go "Oh yeah I can do $that!" // but you'll benefit from it now too
 
wtf is this @Jhawins
 
That's part of my own philosophy too ^^ Thanks @Jhawins, Thank you @Neil, @rlemon, and the rest :D Helpful developers, nice persons
 
this looks great
 
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@Loktar what? The video? I believe @rlemon linked it to @twoc and I kept it bookmarked
 
4:12 PM
@Frondor Actually we're assholes, but sometimes we're nice.
 
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^
 
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@taco lol you sound so dissapointed that is the mlk movie... what were you hoping it was?
 
Then I'm just a lucky man, I got you in a good mood ^^
 
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If you're trying to improve yourself we're usually nice. If you're trying to solve one specific problem and that's all you care about we don't really care for you.
 
I like sci-fi, so I wouldn't mind seeing the set of the other one @AaronSiciliano
 
4:12 PM
getting real tired of your shit Frodo.
 
haha
 
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@taco yeah ....although the set of burlesque might not have been a bad one to be at either. Although with cher in it you might be able to class that as sci-fi
 
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@SterlingArcher broaby watcha working on outside of work these days?
 
!!s/Frodo\./Frodo\. Throws Frodo into the lava/
 
4:14 PM
@taco getting real tired of your shit Frodo\. Throws Frodo into the lava (source)
 
oops
 
regex question : How would you split a text on new lines (\n) except when there's a : at the end of the line (without losing any other char) ?
 
@AaronSiciliano I see too much burlesque already
 
FU! XD I love to script with the latest standards, and using the maximum optimization I could on my code, I'm not done until I read my code and I see no glitches on it... this is an example medialab.soluciones.ml of course its not flawless, but I really put some effort on it :D
 
@Jhawins my personal projects are on hold right now. Now that I've added being healthy to my routine and my lack of home computerage I don't have time :(
Yesterday I was making a userscript to detect rick roll links though <.<
 
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4:15 PM
@SterlingArcher It's so hard to make time :(
 
I know right?
 
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I tried for 3 days last weekend to just sit for an hour to work on something...
 
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@taco too much scantily clad women? Give me your man card right now im going to burn it.
 
Not every woman should be scantily clad
 
@taco So what? 80-90%?
 
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4:16 PM
I made a chat using Node and Socket.io this week tho
 
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stops to think .... but......
 
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(As if that takes hardly any effort at all lol)
 
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I just wanna show competence in JS (server and client)
 
@Jhawins took me a lot of effort on the backend
I'm dumb, though
 
@Jhawins It's a good first application with websockets
 
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4:18 PM
@taco Yeah? :/. It's ok to be dumb Mr. Anonymous/Fawkes
 
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@taco if it took you a lot of effort on the back end maybe you were with one of those women you were saying shouldn't be scantily clad
 
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Just kidding lmao
 
:(
 
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im sorry it was too easy!
 
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@taco What part was difficult? History?
 
4:19 PM
SO Chat is taking me back to my HS days :|
@Jhawins I didn't grasp Node until I tried a socket.io chat room. It kicked my butt
It's the reason I started poking my head in here
 
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Or setting up the env and such? I had never used npm before and didn't quite understand how the packages worked and --save and such so I fucked it up royally in the first 10 minutes.
 
OMG NOOB
:P
yeah --save and --save-dev tripped me up the first time
 
I'd used python, so I learned npm fairly quickly
 
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I assumed it would be like apt-get where I install packages for the entire system lol
 
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I am going to re-write my RESTful api in Node instead of PHP this weekend hopefully
 
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4:22 PM
I'm in the middle of backend services for an app..
 
lol
 
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^ Speaking of this... Why aren't there PayPal payments over NFC?
 
in fairness wasn't it their passwords that were comprimised?
 
yeah
 
4:25 PM
I heard hers was "Hunger G@mes3"
 
lol no way
 
@taco haha j/j
 
@Loktar i'm not saying this stuff without having experienced it
I would hope you know me better than that
 
@rlemon I used w3schools as well
when it was the only resource available (2005-2008 or so)
 
and it is my opinion that beginners shouldn't use it.
 
4:26 PM
was fine as a reference.
Should make a web-fools site with a giant blacklist of books/blogs that have had incorrect information at one time or another.
 
So, a web archive?
 
I'm not linking to the fools page. I just said it was not the best resource for beginners. and it isn't. There is no point in debating it, I won't change my mind.
 
@rlemon its cool, my opinion is you're wrong
but hipsters gonna hip.
 
and my opinion is that calling someone a hipster for not liking w3schools is a douchey move
douches gonna douche
<3ro
 
that hurt my one feeling
 
4:31 PM
w3schools is like bing. Why use it when there are better alternatives?
 
@KendallFrey ehh for porn Bing is pretty good
 
So that's why my coworker refuses to use Google...
 
lol
better resources exist and always have, but I don't discount the entire site especially as a reference
 
nah, jk he's a bit... idk. He uses Bing because it's the default in IE, and he uses IE because our internal sites are designed for IE because he uses IE because it comes with Windows.
 
Bing for porn? Eh?
 
4:34 PM
it's for security
 
Bing does search porn pretty well
 
no one thinks to look at ie's history anymore
 
ah
 
> no porn in Chrome history, he's clean
 
ctrl+shift+n
always
 
4:35 PM
He does pretty well for a guy with no formal education, but this does make a few WTF moments.
 
live alone - no need to hide porn history
but the fucking google sync has almost bit me in the ass
 
lock your computer - "
 
at work showing co-working something -- boom my url want s to suggest some porn link.
 
@ziGi if a room doesn't need to be moderated (because for example - they don't make racist or sexist remarks constantly) - it's ok. The problem with your room is that its content is suspicious.
 
4:36 PM
lol @ google sync
 
yeah I dont sync with my work pc ever I always am of the mentality I could be let go at any moment
don't want anyone getting my sweet bookmarks
 
lol
I sync for the bookmarks
 
my kryptonite is when I download a pic, and it syncs to my icloud, which then puts it in my photo library
 
the rest is just a .. well .. minor annoyance
 
I don't use bookmarks
 
4:37 PM
Holy sht we can kick :O?
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum \o/
you just wake up"?
 
sooo tempted to kick Ben
 
doo eet
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum what what what ?
 
you can kick me @KendallFrey
 
4:38 PM
luckily you cant walk into internet chat rooms and shoot the place up. If so I feel like Zigi would have killed everyone already.
 
@rlemon yup
 
How do you kick ?
 
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A: Impose a re-entry delay on users kicked out of a chat room

balphaThis has been implemented now. The short story is: room owners can kick abusive users, who will then be banned from re-entering the room for a certain time. Of course you want not just the short story but all the dirty details, so here they are: In the user popup that appears when you click on ...

 
/kick me
 
4:39 PM
@taco You're volunteering?
 
just a guess?
 
@rlemon great !
 
@KendallFrey yeah sure.
 
I can't kick myself, it seems
 
you can try
get a funny message
$.post("/rooms/kickmute/room_id", fkey({
    userId: your_id
}))
 
4:40 PM
@dystroy you can always slap yourself
 
@rlemon no, there's no link on me
 
see previous message
 
If I get kicked and can't come back, I hope you guys let me back in someday
 
is it a matter of the user requesting to come back?
 
See you in a minute, thx taco
 
4:42 PM
what I don't like is that no one else is aware of the kick
(except mods)
 
I'm back in already
 
@rlemon yeah, all you can see is the user disappearing
 
like you just kicked taco, no one else sees the event
 
 
wow.. so if you kick someone no one knows who did it eh? (besides moderators I imagine)
 
4:43 PM
lol
 
@taco Maybe that should go on the rules page
 
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@loktar kick me
 
KICKFEST
 
wish it said who was kicked and by who like it does when room owners are added/removed
 
@KendallFrey did you set it to 1 minute or is that hardcoded
 
4:44 PM
@taco hardoded
 
I kicked you @Jhawins
 
next time is 5m
 
ah
 
after the third time I think it's always 30m
 
plus a mod flag
 
4:44 PM
jhawnins was kicked by user loktar00 thats what it should say imo
also kind of weird that owners can be kicked
 
@Loktar wow
 
If you kick a lot of people, you'll get the mods on your case
 
yeah I cant see myself ever kicking anyone
 
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@Loktar I saw lol. Yeah I had the network panel open and preserved logs... I saw absolutely nothing.
 
I dont think I have anyone ignored even
 
4:45 PM
@Loktar the swastikas
 
@Jhawins damn thats crazy and powerful
 
Shouldn't be able to kick the owner, though. Could turn into a hostile take over by a troll
 
@KendallFrey I lol'd at them actually
 
I think kicking will make them go
 
I joined and there were like 10 of them
but yeah its definitely good for situations like that
glad zigi was good for something
I'm sure the recent events helped push these features
 
4:46 PM
also means we don't have to lock the damn room
 
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I figured I would get something from the server about being kicked but it just reloads the page and the server returns the kicked page instead. You get no info unless maybe 10K users can see more.
 
@taco a good reason to have notifications
 
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It deifnitely needs more verbosity though
 
@rlemon +1
 
so if people start disappearing, we know who's trollin
 
4:47 PM
^rubber ducking, sorry
 
fuck now I have to watch out calling @rlemon a hipster
 
@Loktar aww. I thought it was "Plus Excitement!"
 
haha
 
@taco I like listening
 
@Loktar normally I don't mind. I take it mostly in jest, but this one touched a spot :P
 
4:48 PM
Just make sure I know I'm not expected to reply
 
and I don't take kindly to people on the interwebs touching my spot
 
@rlemon just remember I say most things like that in jest
I go into troll mode sometimes
 
I NEED AN ADULT!
 
So glad the next release of this app is on CentOS. My release goes out Sunday. Debian Lenny is a bit outdated
 
like idk, defending w3schools is fucking weird, but it adds spice to the convo if we all dont agree
 
4:48 PM
The old joke was "Kendall Frey has removed rlemon from the list of this rooms's owners." Now it's just the boot.
 
also people are going to have to really practice discipline when we talk about politics or religion now
 
@rlemon Show me on the doll...
 
@Loktar it would be weirder if we did agree
 
dammit I keep minimizing GIMP and forgetting about twoc
 
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lol I am going to kickmute myself and see what happens...
 
4:50 PM
no you're not
 
ಠ_ಠ
<|>
/ω\
 
@Jhawins cya in 60 seconds
 
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!!afk probably gonna be 5 mins this time
 
responseText: "{"message":"Really, you want to kick yourself? I suggest a long walk instead."}"
spoiler.
 
you're kidding, right?
 
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4:50 PM
> {"message":"Really, you want to kick yourself? I suggest a long walk instead."}
 
$.post("/rooms/kickmute/17", fkey({
    userId: your_id
}))
 
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Hahahahahaha
 
try it
 
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@rlemon fuck yourself. That was my bit!
 
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Meh
 
4:51 PM
@Jhawins Zirak did it first
 
rlemon is touching other peoples bit now? oh dear
 
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meh
 
2 hours ago, by Zirak
@balpha haha, I like what you did with kicking yourself
 
boss man gon be happy with J today!
 
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{"message":"You cannot kick moderators."}
 
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4:52 PM
I didn't try to... But thanks anyway?
 
you can kick feeds
bwahaha
 
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nope
 
$.post("/rooms/kickmute/17", fkey({
    userId: -2
}))
> "{"message":"The user has been kicked and cannot return for 1 minute."}"
 
Feeds?
 
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4:53 PM
lol fuck Feeds
 
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!!stat -2
 
@Jhawins User Elusio proved elusive.
 
!!mute
 
4:53 PM
!!unmute 2862309
 
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Only a chat user
 
@SecondRikudo Unmuted user 2862309
 
!!unmute 965090
 
@SecondRikudo Unmuted user 965090
 
Please use the kickban feature from now on
 
4:54 PM
@SecondRikudo we're just removing the plugin
you are way late on this train
rooms unlocked
 
Oh, wasn't aware XD
 
that extension is amazing
 
I need to refresh more often.
 
0
Q: Bringing chat moderation to a stable state

Benjamin GruenbaumSo, room owners can now moderate their rooms which is great! I think this is an awesome step towards a less abuse prone chat. Now that it's implemented I'd like to suggest a few new additions to harden the system. Now that room owners can remove problematic users from their room - we should dis...

 
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homechannelnews.com/article/lowes-ordered-pay-2x4-settlement // so off-topic but this is absolutely hilarious
 
4:56 PM
@BenjaminGruenbaum Yes... Yes... Let the meta rep flow through you...
 
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Hahaha Lowes sued because 2x4s are 1.5x3.5s and have been since the beginning of time
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum what about owners kicking owners?
That feels odd..
anyway +1
 
I tried to kick to see what would happen, but it just comes back with a "Oops! Something Bad Happened!" webpage
 
@Loktar feel free editing that in, just leave a remark on the edit revision it's with my blessing :)
@SecondRikudo so value
 
Who is ThiefMaster?
 
4:57 PM
@BenjaminGruenbaum much wow.
@taco A moderator.
 
ah
 
@taco Where have you tried it?
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum +1
 
@SecondRikudo javascript console
 
Thanks for all the comments - feel free to make edits into the question though.
 
4:58 PM
@taco You won't be able to kick out of a room you aren't an owner in.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum eh Ill leave it off, I'm sure the answer about owners is other owners can remove owners
 
I commented on the question
 
so I guess in that sense it makes sense.
 
you can edit your own damn text
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum mine would be too radical
 
4:58 PM
@SecondRikudo I know, I just wanted to see what would happen
 
I'm still not entirely a fan of #1 (10k flags removal)... — Jan Dvorak 2 mins ago
 
@JanDvorak what would it be?
 
to touch on that last note: they star from the transcript - once kicked they cannot see the rooms live view. — rlemon 2 mins ago
 

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