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1:00 PM
@BartekBanachewicz it is my belief that science can prove many things, but not all
 
@BartekBanachewicz Otherly said : Scientific models starts to be accepted once they predict things. That's really how validation of theory works.
 
smack me
 
Well in the Dark Ages whoever survived the Plague was like a god
and had much much banging for free
 
@BenCraig yeah see you're not even wrong.
 
In the dark ages, if you hit a chick on the head with a club, they'd likely stone you to death
 
1:00 PM
G'morning from Western MA!
 
Or not, depending on whether or not you're of nobility
 
@BartekBanachewicz you can try, but I am better educated than you on the subject so I'll have a good time crushing your arguments. People seem to think you can just "kinda think about stuff like this" a day or two, feel smart and then know all about it. You're behaving like a programmer who calls themselves a programming master after learning PHP for 2 days.
You have not read a single paper and you don't even know the arguments.
Not even the arguments that back up your stand point.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum I can understand your reasons for that. The point is, every time a president gets elected in Egypt things get worse. At least Morsi was elected democratically :-/
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum seriously, appealing to your own authority is as lame as it gets
 
Heck, you don't even know what empiricism means.
 
1:01 PM
> you can try, but I am better educated than you on the subject so I'll have a good time crushing your arguments.
 
I know what empiricism means, yay :P
 
@BartekBanachewicz prove me wrong, read.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Nah, I'd say misusing fallacies on the internet is.
 
I'm not trying to win an argument, I'm trying to get you to stop arguing.
 
1:02 PM
gosh I wish we had this discussion in German, I studied astro-physics for gods sake
 
@jAndy Me too! Yay us! *highfive*
 
o/
 
\o
 
!!define empiricism
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum yes, I propose we start throwing papers at each other.
 
1:02 PM
for the record.
 
@SomeKittensUx2666 [empiricism](http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki?curid=61695) A pursuit of knowledge purely through experience, especially by means of observation and sometimes by experimentation.
1885, Gerard F. Cobb, "Musical Psychics," Proceedings of the Musical Association, 11th Session, p. 119:
Our whole life in some of its highest and most important aspects is simply empiricism. Empiricism is only another word for experience.

1951, Albert Einstein, letter to Maurice Solovine (Jan. 1), in Letters to Solovine:
 
@BartekBanachewicz "You're not in a position to argue" is not an argument, it's a "please stop making fun of yourself and read"
 
@jAndy oh we have a German here
 
@BartekBanachewicz I'd like that very much :)
 
1:03 PM
@BenjaminGruenbaum your arrogance is daunting.
 
@zigi are you joking ? half channel regs are German
we have overtakes on regular bases
 
@BarackObama I heard so too. What is your take on the Muslim Brotherhood? The media here portrays them as a fundamentalist group.
 
really, oh noez, I am surrounded by ze germanz
 
@BartekBanachewicz I've found it to be the most effective way to get you to stop :D
 
viel menschnen mussen ausrotten
 
1:04 PM
yea.. we still have this deep need for domination, so we need to overtake zee channel from time to time
 
:D
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum Being an arrogant dickhead full of himself certainly makes others want to stop discussing with you, yes.
 
I don't think I'm particularly good at philosophy, just better than you :D
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum x2
2
 
As much as I respect you and your knowledge, this is annoying as heck.
 
1:04 PM
@BenjaminGruenbaum @BartekBanachewicz You're both wrong, because I said so. And I'm always right.
 
@BartekBanachewicz does it annoy you enough to go read that paper perhaps?
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum nah. I'll read it.
 
@BartekBanachewicz prove it
 
@Neil you still owe me that non recursive retry thing.
 
@BartekBanachewicz do you respect his authoreteah
 
1:05 PM
@BenjaminGruenbaum I gave you one.
 
@Neil that actually works with async functions :D
 
@Mosho Heisenberg should be enough.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum Pff, now you're being picky
 
I think terrorists also work with async functions
 
"I know I'm right, I just don't feel like proving it" Thanks, Fermat.
 
1:06 PM
hahha
 
@BartekBanachewicz I just don't see how your statement contributes to your point
 
@Mosho the infinite domain of disprovable things? I meant that they are simply irrelevant.
 
yeah, but we're talking about scientific theories, right?
 
@Mosho define "proof"
 
there is a nice saying in German about religion vs. science, it goes like...

"A scientist researches and studies all his life, he climbs the hills of ignorance and beats the rocks of foolishness... and when he finally climbs the last little hill before the summit, he gets welcomed by a group of theologians"
 
1:07 PM
@Mosho all scientific theories are disprovable
 
hard to translate .. but something around that corner. I think its quite nice
 
or "they offer a way to disprove them"
 
@BartekBanachewicz define "theory", then define "disporable"
 
@BartekBanachewicz sure, but why are you talking philosophically
I'm talking about the current state of science
 
If I'm talking philosophically then stop me because I have no idea what I'm talking about.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum To be honest that was the only reason I was worried of Morsi's come to power. They are portrayed as fundamentalist by Egyptian tv too (they also had a fight about that). But other than that, Morsi was just doing what Erdogan is doing: Creating a moderate islamic country (not extremist), and reform the currently bad economical situation.

Did I mention that you can buy a house with a few thousand dollars in Egypt? That makes you see how bad economy is..
 
the reigning theory that explains a phenomenon is that which no one can disprove (yet)
and like I said, to me, the bottom line is what you can do with that theory
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum do you know why people make fun and say that Jewish people are good with money and like money very much?
 
@BartekBanachewicz I tried, you called me arrogant.
 
To be clear islamic but open to other religions, Turkey style, or like the Catholic Italy.
 
1:10 PM
@zigi A long time ago, they weren't allowed to own land in western Europa, which historically leaded to many opting for trading and banking
 
@zigi it's a stereotype, Jewish people were forbidden from doing certain jobs due to religious discrimination for over a thousand years so a lot of them settled doing financial work (which they were not forbidden from since it did not include owning land which they were not allowed).
Today it doesn't really hold.
 
Every time I find a coin on the floor or save some money on something that I buy or put my change in a scrip, my friends make fun of me how Jewish I am
 
"friends"
 
@zigi You're just a poor man :-)
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum logical conclusion based on evidence
 
1:11 PM
yeah, they do that with me
 
@BarackObama I really dislike Erdogan, I realize he has a lot of respect from some cycles but he is very aggressive towards Israel and he is also aggressive towards technology in Turkey, I have two friends from Turkey who work on a startup and they were awed by how much support startups get in Israel.
 
well that's why they are my friends, cause they make jokes like that, but I am not Jewish (I just have some roots), so I guess it should be funny
 
I like Turkey itself, I've visited it several times. I really enjoyed Istanbul and doing tracks in Cappadocia.
@BarackObama when I say "really hate" that might be a strong term, I'd shake his hand. I dislike him the same way I dislike our foreign minister.
 
For some reason, it comes to mind that Jerry Seinfeld episode of that dentist that changes to Judaism just because he wanted to be able to crack jewish jokes
 
I like Turkey with mashed potatoes
 
1:14 PM
!!s/I like/Everybody likes/
 
@Kippie Everybody likes Turkey with mashed potatoes (source)
 
@Neil I still waiting :P
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum I think it is a bit stereotypical yes, my grandma was a financial assistant, my brother studied finances and banking and I am a programmer working in a financial company
and we have big noses
 
Some jews do like money ^^ Like other people...
 
I like having enough money to not be a problem to live normally
and if I can make a lot of money
I would invest them in some Sustainable stuff
 
1:16 PM
@BenjaminGruenbaum I conceed to your challenge, though this merely proves it is the only way to do it without promises. I'm not convinced it is as revolutionary as you would have me believe.
I use recursion when it's elegant and when there is no other way. Otherwise I don't.
 
When it's the right tool :D
 
Historical context: During the late Middle Ages, the Pope threatened to excommunicate anyone who lent out money and charged interest. Thus, no Catholics wanted to loan out money. People still wanted to borrow money for expeditions to the Middle East, so the Jews (who couldn't care less about Catholic excommunication) were willing.
 
Some Americans are bad at driving, some Asians like money, and some Jews like the die hard movies. Stereotypes.
 
@SomeKittensUx2666 I didn't know that, cool :) Anywhere I can read about it?
 
Wait wait wait.. Americans being bad at driving is a stereotype?
Since when?
 
1:18 PM
@NickDugger hi!
 
Have you ever been to Naples?
 
No it's not, I'm just poking holes in sterotypes.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum Source: High school Social Studies teacher (though I'm sure there are plenty of books, etc)
 
Ah
 
@Neil The one thing we Americans can all agree on is that we're all above-average drivers.
 
1:19 PM
If there's one thing I've learned, it's that generalizations are always wrong.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum Yeah I heard about Erdogan ditching Israel doings and also stopping "charge d'affairs" with Egypt. That and his stupid stances make me want to really dislike him. In fact what I just like of him is the changes in economy as Turkey growth stunted in the last years, whereas Europe's is to a decline.

Guess we can never have a politician without the bad sided apple in their hand and that's bad.

There's a saying that says you cannot stay in power more than 10 years or you'll become corrupt/politically ill.
 
@SomeKittensUx2666 what about obesity
 
Obesity is a problem, yes.
 
@SomeKittensUx2666 I think Americans are more courteous drivers. It's a stretch to say we're all above-average
 
1:20 PM
There are 73.9% overweight people in america
 
@Neil HA! YOU ARE FUNNY!
 
Put 1000 americans in mid-day traffic in Naples and see how they compare to 1000 italians in mid-day traffic :P
 
@zigi wat. People can be 73.9% obese?
 
not sure how I offended someone.. if my comments hurt someone.. I really apologize for that.
 
@BarackObama yep, that sounds about right. I probably wouldn't feel safe going to Turkey now.
 
1:20 PM
I'm sure most would have a wreck of some sort
 
@Neil Put 1k Italians in morning Boston traffic
 
~23% of world is insane.
 
and for the record, I don't believe any religion.. I just respect every religion
 
@SomeKittensUx2666 touchè
 
@Neil nice accent mark
 
1:21 PM
What? We're still on the topic of religion? Geez, people. Just respect other people's beliefs and move on.
 
@SomeKittensUx2666 Like it? I polished it this morning.
 
@NickDugger But... How can I convince other people their beliefs are wrong, then? D:
 
@NickDugger That's kinda hard to do when one's religious beliefs are genocidal.
 
Satanism FTW
 
I'm not going to respect your beliefs if they're "$RACE is bad and should be wiped off the face of the earth"
 
1:22 PM
@VitalikVerhovodov Welcome to the JavaScript chat! Please review the room pseudo-rules. Please don't ask if you can ask or if anyone's around; just ask your question, and if anyone's free and interested they'll help.
 
Georgia (the US state) passed to law to teach creationism alongside evolution in school
 
@NickDugger ok just clarifying on a statement that I am insulting here and I am being irked by someone.
 
If that's not f***ed up, I don't know what is
 
wtf is xmbc ?
 
Haha it gets even worse than that video! I go to Italy often and am accustomed to their nice driving. Oh, try to pass a car when the light is red :-P
 
1:23 PM
@BarackObama open challenge drive in mumbai
 
everyone
stop
 
HAMMERTIME!
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum I think so. It'll assure you that many Turks are anti-erdogan right now though (see what happened last year in Turkey as a result).
 
@BarackObama Like when they graciously move out of your way and move ahead of you so that you won't have to worry about them being behind you, very considerate of them
 
@NickDugger The discussion is still pretty reasonable.
 
1:24 PM
Or when they go through red lights.. they always want to ensure traffic moves as efficiently as possible, even risking their own lives in the process, so altruistic
 
I just wanted Cap to say hammertime, lol
 
@SomeKittensUx2666 overweight
in Europe it's 55.6%
in Asia it's the lowest 24.2%
 
What about when they flip their middle finger.. clearly a sign of mutual respect in Italy
 
@AbhishekHingnikar Can Indians be really worse than Italians? I know of a Roman neighborhood full of Indian people (let's call it Indian town) but they seem reasonable :-P
@Neil Hahaha yeah
 
I have no idea how traffic is in India
 
1:27 PM
Can anyone tell me who is responsible for this css goodness? i.stack.imgur.com/Ec3fY.png
 
Consider that in Naples, it is literally almost impossible to live in the city for a full year with your car and not have some sort of dent or scratch in it
 
I even got menaced when someone had the good idea to ride with green. Like what?
@Neil So you are Napoletano or you just happen to go there often?
Lucky that I have no car :-)
 
India has no traffic (except for mumbai and metros)
its all chaos
 
@BarackObama Neither fortunately. It is all heresay, but I do live in Italy, and for bad as things are here, I believe what I hear
 
@AbhishekHingnikar Like this ?
 
1:30 PM
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@BarackObama I didn't find traffic in north of Italy so bad. It's a little chaotic but nicer than in Lyon (France) where I live. And I drove many times in Italy
 
cc @dystroy
 
It's a bit worse in Rome and below
 
3 mins ago, by Billy
Can anyone tell me who is responsible for this css goodness? http://i.stack.imgur.com/Ec3fY.png
 
@Neil yes (as almost anything...)
 
1:31 PM
@dystroy Because you didn't go to Rome or Naples. Or even Sicily.
 
@Billy +1
 
@BarackObama I went. Did you see the "north" in my sentence ?
 
@BarackObama that looks pretty good for india :P
 
@Billy I'm the god (ahem) behind that
 
its prbably delhi or mumbai or other metro
 
1:32 PM
I've driven several times to Nice. I rather like it there.
 
@Neil my brother used to live there
 
@Neil would you say it's......nice?
 
it's a very nice little city
 
@Billy it's not css, it's svg
 
Nice is nice
:D
 
1:33 PM
@Neil You are good to go about believing it, I saw that with my own eyes and can say it's true.
 
@FlorianMargaine Ahh! I was racking my brains trying to work out how you would make something dynamic like that with CSS!
Not so God-like after all @dystroy ^
 
and yes, @dystroy is the one behind that. He even made hu.js from it.
2
 
@dystroy Yes yes, it was just to warn you in case you get there :-)
 
I was prepared to accept the many puns that would have spawned from that comment. That said, I still felt the full brunt of the damage.
 
1:34 PM
@zigi the way they count, I'm probably obese too
but yeah, dem 'muricans are fat :P
 
@FlorianMargaine That is pretty awesome
 
The idea of making people use 'ù' every time they want to use your library is entertaining
 
@Mosho I used to live with a really nice guy from Texas
and he was obese in my opinion
and he said he's average by their standard
so yeah
I don't know
 
@AbhishekHingnikar That doesn't look far fetched from other cities in Lazio which have no street lights :D
 
@Billy I want to read that again
 
1:35 PM
he was like 230lbs tall 5'11"
 
@zigi that's just "overweight"
 
what happened here? Who killed the guards?
 
@AwalGarg Religious people.
 
@AwalGarg Well... you didn't come at the worst time...
 
Avada Kedavra
 
1:37 PM
Sim Salabim
 
@dystroy congos for getting miaou up... I'll try to beat you in tribo sometime :P
 
@zigi @AwalGarg fuck off
 
^ likewise
 
@dystroy Do you really use disks to store chat messages?
 
i wonder why there was no magic swear -_-
 
1:38 PM
mute Abshik for doing multiple pings :D
 
@BarackObama What ? What would you use ?
 
@BarackObama no he uses butterflies
 
I, however, am what you'd call 'religious', in addition to other room regulars.
 
@_@ whaat?
 
Dystroy is real programmer :D
 
1:39 PM
@AbhishekHingnikar is that close to reality ?
 
jsfiddle.net/aghosh/mjTH7 what the hell, why cannot i put an added draggable element onto the trash ??
 
@tereško yes it is daily
sometimes it gets worse
 
If you're not religious but still act like faith itself is the issue, you're part of the problem.
 
@tereško come to india some day mate :D
and enjoy a bike ride :-> it'd change your view of life
 
I know a guy that has a foot pedal to switch on insert mode in Vim
 
1:40 PM
Most south Asia is terrible on driving...
 
(or some parts in your body if you hit)
 
he's pretty hardcore
 
@dystroy I don't know how many users use your chat, but you may consider storing all or a part of them in a database with indexes to be later queried on. Maybe even Redis?
 
as far as i have heard
pakistan and bangladesh are worse then india
i wonder how can people drive worse then that o_O ?
 
south asian people can drink drive and kill in one move
 
1:41 PM
@BarackObama where would you store the database then? here?
 
@BarackObama ok... understand your comment... Well, I do use a database with indexes and stuff (and redis too), but this database is itself on a hard disk
 
Don't talk about the database.. it's a sensitive subject still
 
I also found this post on Google groups
 
@dystroy hahahaha. man, you are awesome...
 
And I've about 100 000 messages (a whole video chat is one message. A whole game of Tribo is one message)
 
1:42 PM
@dystroy Oh, my bad. I thought you were storing them as plain xml, json or something like that :-)
 
btw, why d-"y"-stroy and not simply d-"e"-stroy?
 
@AwalGarg long story bro
 
@AbhishekHingnikar I can say people there are amazing how they can cope with the traffic without any additional signs, stoplights
 
@dystroy my eyes are open to long stories... bro
 
1:43 PM
and mostly they don't hit people that much
 
@zigi its swarm logic
 
you are zerglings
:D
 
AbhishekHingnikar I thought that image was going to include the when a butterfly flaps its wings a tornado is going to happen in the other part of the earth thing.
 
@jAndy G irls
that was an interesting Game
 
bunch of liars in here I knew it on the very first day :P
 
1:46 PM
@jAndy Garage
 
^
 
wait, if my droppable div is set position: absolute; then i cannot drop a normal (position : static) element on it??
 
@jAndy first thing that comes to my mind starting with a G isn't SFW. TBH first thing that comes to my mind is rarely SFW
 
oh shit I forgot why I came here.... was something specific. ughh.
 
Reddit votes are weird.
 
1:48 PM
@dystroy in french?
 
@FlorianMargaine of course
 
@dystroy well, see what my 1st word was.
5 hours ago, by Florian Margaine
God
I didn't think about it in english first.
 
hi, nice to meet you all, my name is God, Mr. God
 
^ wow i didn't knew people can hit 200kmph in india
 
1:50 PM
but you can call me goddy
 
@zigi I'm often called like that too
 
haha. zigi is non-existent :D
 
oh so we are namesakes then
 
@AwalGarg Now you say it... I wonder what that really means, being called a god in bed :\
 
ahahahaha :D
ahahahahaha
 
1:51 PM
@zigi My religion agrees with you. We are all God.
 
@dystroy no. being called non-existent, since he is non existent.
 
i think he got it
 
@BarackObama if you are talking about Sufism, I really like it, it's maybe one of the closest I have seen to what I believe
 
zigi Yes I'm talking about Sufism :-)
 
1:53 PM
@AbhishekHingnikar lol
 
150
A: Watch multiple $scope attributes in AngularJS

Răzvan PandaBeginning with AngularJS 1.1.4 you can use $watchCollection: $scope.$watchCollection('[item1, item2]', function(newValues, oldValues){ // do stuff here // newValues and oldValues contain the new and respectively old value // of the observed collection array }); Plunker example here...

Neat Angular trick
They canonized it in 1.3, but useful if you're still on 1.2
 
@AbhishekHingnikar how do you find them?? :D
 
youtube.com/watch?v=Oqt9sGA23TU um not so one box friendly
was watching this
 
@BarackObama I even think the Sufists were one of the people that developed a lot of the nowadays science as we know it because there was some sultan that invested a lot in it
in Persia if I am not historically wrong
 
0:07 in that video is epic
 
1:56 PM
@AbhishekHingnikar now this reminds me of my chemistry lab classes. We literally blew stuff everyday...
 
Should that be closed or not ?
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Q: Alternatives to Javascript string concatenation?

user1985189Our sign-in page for web apps currently uses javascript string concatenation to generate markup: var signinHtml='<div>'+ ' <form class="form-signin" method="post">'+ ' <div class="form-signin-app-icon"></div>'+ ' <h2 class="form-signin-heading">'+appName+'</h2> '+ ...

 
!!s/stuff/men/
 
@SomeKittensUx2666 @AbhishekHingnikar now this reminds me of my chemistry lab classes. We literally blew men everyday... (source)
 
so many solutions...
 
@dystroy Sounds to me like the XY problem
"Should I use a glass bottle or an old shoe to drive this nail in?"
 
1:57 PM
> Our sign-in page for web apps currently uses javascript string concatenation to generate markup
first mistake.
 
HTML in JS strings gets so messy, so fast. I used to do it that way too, lol
 
@NickDugger so how do you deal with themplates then?
 
@SomeKittensUx2666 yeah that too sometimes. I once set up fire on a friends tie... he didn't attend the class next time :P
 

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