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2:00 PM
I can't believe you tricked me into giving that a chance
 
lol I like that vs
 
It seems to lack the early (horrid) singing of Ms. Black.
I like it.
 
I'm watching Dilbert
 
@rlemon Rebecca Black just doesn't work as a chiptune.
 
:)
 
2:03 PM
@KendallFrey Really? That's surprising
 
yeah, totally blew me away
 
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I think Rebecca Black should redo "Friday" now that she no longer sings through her nose.
 
I agree
she doesnt have rights to the song I bet though
 
You think?
 
2:11 PM
she got lucky though and has rights to the vid, now that guy takes the rights to the vids as well though (for the new girls he records)
since she has made so much money off of it
 
Aaah, gotcha
 
so yeah idk, I would assume he keeps song rights
 
haha yeah I saw that, I feel bad for her, like she is a likable person
and seems like she took the time to really improve her singing
 
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2:12 PM
Definitely
 
it's really been two and a half years?
jesus
 
I know, right?
Actually, probably more like 3 now
 
her watching it is almost more annoying than the song
 
@rlemon The last thing I needed was a play-by-play
@EvgeniNabokov is here? I don't believe it for a minute!
 
like yea she seems nice. not a douche like a lot of t hem
 
2:17 PM
...yet
 
but she does seem like she would annoy the shit out of me after like 5 minutes of hanging out
 
Bieber was a nice guy at first too
 
nahh
I watched some early interviews of him. he was always a little pissant
 
You know, for some reason, I always thought that word was "piss ant", and I had no idea why that was a thing.
 
2:19 PM
Now I'm in need of some great dubstep.
 
:( wtf. EMFILE error in node
how?
 
@rlemon you know how you feel right now? That's how I feel every time you guys are on teamspeak!
 
eh, i'm working
no time for TS
 
Ha! Exactly.
 
@kapa nice bio
 
2:26 PM
@rlemon :)
 
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user1596138
It's Friday: The day that @rlemon keeps posting Rebecca Black's Friday. We probably have 4-5 more to go.
 
user1596138
@Loktar Whaaaaatttttt?
 
Friday Friday
gotta get down
 
user1596138
I thought Windows was a Fiat 500 or something.
 
user1596138
2:28 PM
POS
 
I mean if there were an os out there that handled gaming on the pc better maybe
 
user1596138
The maker of that graphic is a tard. lol OSX has the same capabilities more-or-less as linux (with tweaking). Does Windows? Nah. But it plays those games at high fps hahaha
 
Someone make a dedicated gaming OS
 
like SteamOS?
 
No, I mean dedicated
 
user1596138
2:30 PM
I pitty the people who judge performance b graphics
 
@BartekBanachewicz steamos is meh
@Jhawins Mac isn't for gaming
 
@Loktar what exactly is meh about it?
 
I mean I guess if you only like 5 games (the entire MACS library) then maybe its for you.
 
@Loktar because you said so?
 
@BartekBanachewicz the fact that still under 10% of my library is playable on it.
 
2:31 PM
@Loktar A lot of games get ported to Mac, actually.
 
@BartekBanachewicz thats cool that some get ported, but its a pretty small number overall.
 
if you want to play every game in existence then yes, Mac isn't for gaming
 
@BartekBanachewicz keyword 'ported'
 
otherwise, games work rather well on it.
 
user1596138
I agree. I don't game on my computers and I don't think capabilities or performance should have anything to do with gaming ;)
 
2:32 PM
@KendallFrey those ports tend to work.
 
user1596138
That's just graphics mostly. I don't even need a screen for nix and I can do HUGE amounts of work
 
With steam pushing for linux, I can see a lot of games going the OpenGL route, which by extension means mac support
 
@Cereal I can see more but still not reaching critical mass
 
OpenGL got into mobile market
 
its a pipe dream, always has been
 
2:33 PM
no, not really
 
ok @BartekBanachewicz O.o
 
@Loktar Depends no how well the steam machines do
 
considering how many android devices are out there.
 
why? Because you said so?
 
user1596138
If this is about gaming, then it's about gaming. But gaming performance has no direct correlation with actual performance across different OS.
 
2:34 PM
@Loktar no, because it makes less sense nowadays to focus on Dx if you're not an AAA developer
@Jhawins except it has.
 
If AAA devs dont switch regular users wont either
its a catch 22
 
OGL works well enough on windows to become a main target for many bigger studios already
exhibit a Valve
 
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@BartekBanachewicz lol if anyone but you said that I'd egg them on. But you'e too funny about stuff lol I'll get lost and you'll be talking about haskell all of a sudden
 
yeah Valve has their reasons though, because Gaben wants all the monies
 
user1596138
Am I in the minority not using my computers for any type of gaming whatsoever, ever?
 
2:35 PM
@Jhawins @BartekBanachewicz is right about gaming and perf being directly related.
 
user1596138
Wait, I played Ricochet back in the day
 
Gaming has been one of the biggest pushers for the computer industry in terms of performance
 
@Loktar they have shown that translating their directX calls to OGL actually was faster than raw DirectX, so I think there were some technical reasons.
 
user1596138
@Loktar Nope. Because a game runs faster in Windows than on Linux does not mean that one system is necessarily faster than the other.
 
@Jhawins I guess that should make you a main voice in this discussion, right? After all, who would know better than you, certainly not me; I'm too funny about stuff.
 
user1596138
2:36 PM
I don't have to explain this. You're not retarded.
 
@BartekBanachewicz yeah I mean dont get me wrong I'm not against it
 
@Jhawins nobody said that
 
I just have a pessimistic view on it
 
user1596138
@BartekBanachewicz Then read
 
user1596138
3 mins ago, by Jhawins
If this is about gaming, then it's about gaming. But gaming performance has no direct correlation with actual performance across different OS.
 
user1596138
2:37 PM
> Because a game runs faster in Windows than on Linux does not mean that one system is necessarily faster than the other.
 
@Jhawins no, stop making erroneous and/or imprecise statements
 
user1596138
These are one in the same
 
except they are not.
 
user1596138
lulz
 
maybe it's language barrier.
 
user1596138
2:38 PM
Well if my Python app runs faster on nix than windows, nix must be faster as a whole.
 
user1596138
Then stop saying it
 
I am not saying it.
 
user1596138
Ignored like the other day
 
dayum.
 
2:39 PM
um. right. well.
 
I'm with Bartek on this one. Nowhere is that implied
 
user1596138
!!afk either I don't have the capacity for this or you guys are fucking nuts. Either way
 
Continue
 
@Jhawins when have I ever posted it more than once?
maybe you just like re-reading my messages because my writing style turns you on
 
maybe it looks like more because I post it
 
2:40 PM
I think my reasoning is probably more accurate
 
@rlemon Most of us do that
 
I do write sexily
 
@Jhawins 'faster as a whole' is not properly defined
 
You saved me hundreds of dollars worth of erotic material
Reading through the chat transcript is what I do now
 
user1596138
@KendallFrey Thank you. Thats the point there are so many other contributing factors.
 
2:41 PM
I think the picture is an amazing analogy for gaming platforms in their current state
 
Which picture?
 
THE picture
 
46 mins ago, by Loktar
user image
 
Yeah...pushed to its limits...
 
user1596138
Simply rendering graphics faster doesn't make a system superior, or faster, or better. There's a lot more to it. Like the fact that nix doesn't take up near the resources Windows does. I can run a headless machine and encode/decode video from terminal much faster than you can on Windows 8 on the same hardware.
 
2:42 PM
@Jhawins for gaming it does
 
user1596138
@Loktar I'm not talking about gaming :(
 
But they are
 
if my atari can run a webserver better than a ps4 it doesnt matter.
 
user1596138
Why the fuck do you have a console in that picture if it's about gaming
3
 
huh?
thats precisely why there is a console in the picture..
 
2:43 PM
@Loktar This analogy is retarded and wrong on so many points...
 
user1596138
19 secs ago, by Jhawins
Why the fuck do you have a console in that picture if it's about gaming
 
Consoles
PS4===Console
 
user1596138
AHHHHHHHHHH
 
@Jhawins I was confused at first too. Console gaming
 
Console, as in, PS4. XBox, etc
 
user1596138
2:43 PM
AHHH!!!!!
 
user1596138
WHATTTT
 
yes
eat it
 
O.o
 
@Jhawins Danger Zone
 
user1596138
!!afk I'm a stupid dick. Going to buy a pack of cigs, mah bad @BartekBanachewicz
 
2:44 PM
@rlemon ninjad
 
hahah @Jhawins
god man you confused me with your last question
 
It's nice how most arguments with @Jhawins end this way :P
 
@dystroy lol its doing as its intended to stir up emotion (the image)
 
@Zirak lol they really really do
 
2:45 PM
@Jhawins but we still love you
 
:P lots of troll bait
 
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Q: Send SSL certificate in javascript GET query

BiribuIs it possible to send a SSL certificate got from a textbox/textarea to a https GET query? I need to make a GET to a server to get a json file and it needs to use SSL certificates in this way. Server is made in node.js, I don't know if it helps.

 
@Jhawins That's hilarious
 
@Loktar no emotion, it's ridiculous. I love linux but showing a race car to illustrate its gaming performances... really ?
 
what do you mean? You don't think it should show a race car?
Linux does fine with gaming, the problem is lack of ports
dat tux racer! :P
heh at least now lots of indies release nix vs's
 
2:48 PM
@dystroy have you ever hit the "too many files" errors in node?
 
> While the Unreal Engine has enjoyed Linux support in the past, with Unreal Engine 4 we want to make Linux a first class member of our platform family.
 
EMFILE too many files open
 
thats pretty promising too
 
or some shit like that
 
@rlemon not yet.
 
2:48 PM
@rlemon I got that, was a permissions issue
 
fuck.
 
@Zirak I don't even :D
 
It happened to me. but I restarted node and it is gone
 
@Loktar You They mean for game hosting?
 
and I can't figure out why it happened. \
 
2:49 PM
@rlemon There's probably something you don't close, might be db connections or http queries
 
:(
 
They might be giants.
 
@Neil what do you mean by hosting, server hosting, or running on the system?
 
@rlemon is your code visible ?
 
yes and no
 
user1596138
2:49 PM
I thought some idiot just called the terminal "console" and was talking about story games where you die of dysentery :/
 
they mean the engine runs great on linux
 
private chat in miaou it is ;) here, not so much
 
@Loktar Server hosting.. is that what they mean by linux support?
Or like, compiling the code on a linux machine?
 
@rlemon look at where you ensure the closing of resources (including db connections) and answer to queries
 
yeah they mean support for unreal engine 4 on linux
liek directly running games on it
 
2:50 PM
@rlemon ok, ping me
 
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I'm an idiot
 
@KendallFrey No, you're not. YOU'RE A WINNER.
 
MGE
Someone knows how can I detect when Image with or height is changed?
 
I think there's a resize event or something
 
user1596138
3:08 PM
Hmm....
 
user1596138

SQL Queries

Discussion About SQL Queries
 
user1596138
I'm about to get trolled or something idk
 
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@Zirak Haha, I got a new one too. I might just post something there someday. (blog.whatthedude.com)
 
@Jhawins who is that?
 
user1596138
3:17 PM
No idea
 
> Keep talking
not sure what he meant by that
but dont feel like dealing with a troll regardless
 
Well that didn't quote anything at all
 
Serious question: Is Angular too programmer-y for designers (with little JavaScript experience)?
 
yes
for sure..
think of what it does to some programmers... angular has a stupid learning rollercoaster (not curve) imo
 
Well, theoretically, all I want the designer to do is make design changes.
 
3:22 PM
I work with a .net dev who picked up on it a bit quickly though
he almost seemed right at home with it, he never works with js
 
But the way this particular app was written, it relies on code to make these design changes
Mostly via ng-hide and ng-show
 
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in Sorry for this, 4 mins ago, by Wulworine
i have just created this room and thinking about it's name what name should i take to make it popular... but, i don't understand what should i take... so, i have just write Sorry for this... and now it becomes popular
 
user1596138
Hahahahahahaa
 
Rather than adding/removing classes.
 
yeah idk man depends how its setup, do they know any front end stuff at all, like css/html or are they just a designer
could always trial run it, I mean whats the other alternative anyway?
 
3:24 PM
He knows html/css. And a little JavaScript (enough to be dangerous)
The other alternative is that he does what he can, and asks me to do the rest.
 
maybe he will love it and flourish and learn more js :P
ah yeah, I mean initially maybe you could just help him out and hopefully he will catch on
 
He's already learning more JS (fucking around and asking me questions when he gets stuck).
But not enough to get what's going on in this app (which was, ironically, written by somebody that doesn't really know JS).
 
hah
man I need to get back into using angular..
or something. All I've done is worked on a js app written with tons of spaghetti jquery
 
Ew :-P
 
my skills are atrophying
 
3:29 PM
Can you have 2 modules in one NPM package?
as in they can be require()ed separately.
 
@Loktar www.projecteuler.net
You're welcome
 
Anybody else here at JSConf US?
 
@Neil I already have an account there.. but yeah I should do some more puzzles its been a while
 
I find that they help
 
my problem is I suck at math and a lot are math based
 
3:31 PM
True, and you can't really apply most of it
 
yeah, but it gets the mind working
 
but it does make you rethink how you approach problems
 
yeah definitely
 
speaking of puzzles, anyone beat level 6? xss-game.appspot.com/level6
 
@meagar at sep?
 
user1596138
3:33 PM
Well shit
 
user1596138
Why am I about to rent a house. It's vacation time :D
 
@Feeds done.
 
MGE
it doesent work
 
user1596138
God @loktar that was nuts earlier haha
 
lol yeah cracked me up
I guess I could see how someone would think console == terminal in that pic
 
3:38 PM
I think maybe I have to let go of my hatred of all frameworks.
 
user1596138
59 mins ago, by Jhawins
!!afk either I don't have the capacity for this or you guys are fucking nuts. Either way
 
user1596138
It was the former
 
user1596138
lol yeah I was like, those step by step story games are stupid.
 
hahah
 
user1596138
I was thinking like, The Oregon Trail
 
3:39 PM
"you cant compare zork to watch dogs!"
 
user1596138
hahahahaha
 
MGE
I have an input with x id and it doesnt work
$("#x").bind("change", function() {
alert($(this).val());
});
 
user1596138
Yes
 
 
user1596138
Doesn't someone here work for someone like Zozi?
 
3:41 PM
lol
 
user1596138
Hook me up I want to go to New Zealand or something next month
 
user1596138
Last chance to do anything cool for the next year lol
 
user1596138
No more bitching about my job/contract dealio now ;)
 
so you did get the job?
 
@MGE Did they deprecate bind or is on more of an alias? That might be the ish if it's JQ 2. I'm about ready to ditch jQuery though. Just as soon as I'm confident I never have to touch IE8 again.
 
user1596138
3:43 PM
No. I did get a big raise at work which now justifies waiting on my 10% cashout
 
MGE
I don't know..
 
I would use .on over .bind anyway
 
@SomeGuy That platform looks interesting. Any code highlighting support?
 
Yep
Built-in, IIRC
 
Yeah, easy to confuse for core JS bind.
 
3:44 PM
good morning
 
user1596138
If grooveshark wants me... They'll have to offer really good stock options or something because I know they can't beat me in pay on a 1 year outlook
 
I shouldn't have looked at Angular
I'm seriously tempted to just redo my entire project, and I'm having an internal struggle here..
 
I'm not sold on Angular, but see above about having to let go of my hatred of all frameworks.
 
Me neither
I've heard great things about ember and knockout though
I want to look into ember further
 
For me it's the big giant blanket layer over everything approach. Gives me flashbacks to thin client days.
 
user1596138
3:46 PM
And I have a girl here. So now I can at least give it a shot and she can come to Fl or wherever the next job is with me if she wants in a year ;)
 
I want to finish my framework idea but I can't. stop. playing. FTL Advanced edition.
 
haha friggin FTL
I've been obsessed over SPAZ lately
 
@ErikReppen The problem is that node.js and js without any library support is complicated
Would be nice if we could just restart http protocol from scratch
The communications between server and client should hide the complexity a lot more
 
@Neil I have a from-scratch problem. Always want to build it from scratch. Even Express bothers me a little bit. Like WTF does it do for me? That's it!? Bah, I could spend a weekend or maybe a month doing all that.
 
@Neil That thing wont let me go passed level 3, because the cookies don't work. I feel as though it might be a test...
 
3:50 PM
@ErikReppen That's what I did with this project
I was adamant about making my own way. But then it was like.. do I really want to worry about the css styling?
And then while bootstrap offered a great solution, it depends on jQuery
So now I'm using bootstrap css and no jQuery :P
Try with another browser
@twiz Nah I got past level 3
 
Yeah, I'm having to use Bootstrap for a code test right now. Not a huge fan. Of Bootstrap or this code test. It's a bigger project than Facebook's take home code test.
 
I'm doing a lot of "clever" things in my code
Which in a way I like, since I wrote it, but yet I'm sure someone's done it before and I feel stupid for doing it my way
And yeah, bootstrap is not that light
 
@Neil how I felt about making my own game framework
but lol it makes me way more productive at least
 
I think that's the biggest bane of programmers
We all know the wheel has been invented, but damn, we have to make it for ourselves
 
So did anyone see the link on Google for "spellup" or something like that that. Its a chrome app made by google, and no one could get it to work... haha
 
3:56 PM
If nobody reinvented the wheel we'd be driving cars with round-ish rocks for tires.
 
@Neil Just because wheels work, it doesn't mean there aren't better ways to move things.
 
@Neil There are 10 frameworks to do something. But they all suck! I will make one to rule them all! Now there are 11 frameworks to do something.
 
But also, just because you think you know a better way to move things, you probably actually don't...
 
@ErikReppen True, but if we all reinvented the wheel, we'd still be using wheelbarrows
@KendallFrey Yeah, you summed it up pretty well
 
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3:58 PM
@Neil disclaimer: it's a poor wording of some quote I heard somewhere once
 
I think the great programmers amongst us don't fret about the details
 
xkcd is blocked :(
 
They're able to build great things because they piece together existing libraries
 

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