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2:00 PM
it would lead to more ownership over the flags
knowing you cannot just flag and run, people will (imo) be more cautious about what they validate
at the very least they should keep that information and not clear it. It bugs me that after a flag is actioned on (dismissed or validated) that mods cannot see who voted and how
 
If you call Crime Stoppers, do they force you to accompany the police on a drug raid so the accused can meet you?
That could put you in danger.
Same concept applies here.
"I have an issue with this, but I don't want retaliation."
However, it does make sense to allow mods to see flag history
 
@KendallFrey the extreme case doesn't really prove your point.
 
@Neil I think I found a way, i'm essentially not counting the amount of clicks on the element but say I want a ++ like in a for loop but now in an if, would that be possible?

Progress:
http://pastebin.com/fBn56Ybt
 
@rlemon It's the same thing. If you take action against someone, they will want to take action against you.
People may be afraid to flag, rendering the flag system completely useless.
 
sure, but your extreme example I was saying was not really proving that.
and the flag system is almost completely useless as it is today
 
2:07 PM
But it works.
 
not really
@AbhishekHingnikar was banned for posting a perfectly valid link
nothing spammy or offensive about it
 
What happened?
 
before his little rage out there, he was banned for posting this link: amazon.com/Fire-TV-streaming-media-player/dp/B00CX5P8FC
 
It serves its purpose, which is ensuring garbage stays out of SE
It's far from perfect
 
I see more false positives than actual results, personally.
 
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2:09 PM
I'm buying a Bluno for a cool project
 
Also, one example does not prove your point
 
19 secs ago, by rlemon
I see more false positives than actual results, personally.
 
Oh, chat flags. They're screwed up sometimes
 
I see the opposite. Where's your proof now?
 
in the transcript
this isn't a pissing contest, I told you what I see
 
2:10 PM
I did the same
 
why these attributes are not working on IE-10

#outer {
display: table;
height: 100%;
width: 100%;
}
 
112
Q: Flags in chat are defective by design

Benjamin GruenbaumYes, I know the topic has been discussed before. I know that Meta already has threads that complain about how flagging doesn't work. I wanted to give a practical example. Today, a user came in to the JavaScript chat and asked the following question: Hey guys, as soon as I embed javascript,...

 
They are working perfectly on Chrome, you know
 
@CustomizedName define not working, also don't expect height: 100%; to work if the parent has height set to auto
 
2:12 PM
@Mr.Alien I am trying to align div in center of screen
 
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@Mosho load jquery with ://code.jquery.com/jquery-2.1.0.js instead of code.jquery.com/jquery-2.1.0.js
 
@Jhawins :D
 
@CustomizedName wrong way
@Mosho the forces are too fast
nice game though
 
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> Rapper Andre Johnson severs penis, jumps off building, but survives
 
2:13 PM
well, not a game per se yet
 
user1596138
Interesting headlines today
 
In order to use height: 100%, the parent container should have a fixed height.
 
@CustomizedName not fixed, it can be % as well
 
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@Mosho That's awesome!
 
@RalphWiggum and why do you suggest that to him?
(I know why people do it, i'm wondering why you are suggesting it to him)
 
2:15 PM
@rlemon does not load with default settings in chrome if it's https
 
but it isn't https ;)
good thing eh?
 
@Jhawins thanks :D
 
true, but I have https everywhere enabled
 
2
Q: height:100% not working in Internet Explorer

aldimeola1122I have a question about the CSS property height:100% in Internet Explorer. height:100% does not work in IE, but it does in Firefox and Chrome. HTML File : <meta http-equiv="X-UA-Compatible" content="IE=edge,chrome=1"> <html style="height:100%;"> <head> <meta charset="utf-8" /> <link ...

 
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@rlemon I'm kind of agreeing with you here I don't get it
 
2:15 PM
@RalphWiggum so I have to account for you being a paranoid pansy? :P
 
@Mr.Alien I added position equal to absolute but now I get scroll bars too
oh it fixed the issue though
 
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Simple
 
the new color theme in meta is both excessively consensual (everyone seems to do flat blue+orange todays) and full of bizarre choices. What could be the reasoning behind those comment vote count colors
 
@rlemon eh, not really paranoid, I just don't like people being able to eavesdrop when I'm on public wifi
 
@RalphWiggum fair enough. I don't use public wifi's much
if ever
 
2:17 PM
omg... my screenshot tool on linux somehow decided to take a screenshot as... BMP !
 
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Use a <nohttps> You're breakin my shit man </nohttps>
 
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@dystroy png...
 
@Jhawins imgur made the conversion. I assure you it's a 365 Ko BMP on my HD...
 
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I believe you :P
 
@dystroy BMP? what is this ancient wild extension?
 
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2:20 PM
One thing any OSX user has to agree on is that OSX has the best built-in screenshot tools ever
 
@SteamFire beezelbub's massacre painting
 
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Cmd+Shift+3 = full shot; cmd+shift+4 = free region (click space to select entire windows)
 
@Jhawins It's easy to agree that it's shit on win and ubuntu
 
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But Spaces sucks. And most other things, like Finder.
 
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@dystroy lol yeah. I used to use ksnapshot. It was good but KDE
 
2:22 PM
So 1) Shutter lets you choose among BMP, PNG and JPEG, which is already retarded 2) Somehow the setting was changed to BMP
 
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There's always screenshotting with import ;)
 
@Jhawins I use shutter. It's OK (usually)
 
user1596138
Hmm
 
Seriously, why would you implement BMP as one of the 3 choices in a screenshooting program ?
 
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Does anyone have a recommendation on a small (iPhone-ish) screen for adruino/Pi development?
 
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2:24 PM
Can be a total POS as long as it's somewhat readable and reliable. Rough draft
 
Is it just me, or is that vandalism
 
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@OneKitten Some jackass
 
user2509223
@OneKitten they raped it
 
it's strange because I don't think it can even helps them get customers. It's easier to simply mail spam. Probably some kind of error or joke
Was it already reported ?
 
posted on April 17, 2014

var gaJsHost = (("https:" == document.location.protocol) ? "https://ssl." : "http://www."); document.write(unescape("%3Cscript src='" + gaJsHost + "google-analytics.com/ga.js' type='text/javascript'%3E%3C/script%3E")); try { var pageTracker = _gat._getTracker("UA-3727700-1"); pageTracker._trackPageview(); } catch(err) {} Yip.

 
2:26 PM
@OneKitten already fixed
 
@dystroy: not sure, don't think you can "flag" users on MDN
Yeah, that was me
 
@OneKitten I don't know, I never managed to log in
 
@Feeds I'm so glad that feed constantly serves that google analytics nonsense.
 
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@canon It's not Feeds... It's SMBC :/
 
@Feeds smbc being lazy...
 
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2:29 PM
// a - 65
            // b - 66
            // up - 38
            // left - 37
            // right - 39
            // down - 40
            var konamiSeq = 0;
            var konamiArray = Array(38,38,40,40,37,39,37,39,66,65);
            // Poor mans code checker
            function checkCodes(keycode) {
              if (konamiArray[konamiSeq]==keycode) {
                konamiSeq++;
              } else {
                konamiSeq = 0;
              }
              if (konamiSeq == konamiArray.length) {
 
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From smbc
 
It is possible to flag feeds? :O
 
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But left and right trigger page reloads to switch between comics...
 
@SteamFire don't be an idiot
 
I won't
 
2:31 PM
FLAGS ARE NOT TOYS! THEY JUST PISS EVERYONE OFF WHO HAS TO SEE THEM! STOP FLAGGING USELESS SHIT PEOPLE!
 
I never flagged anyone
 
feeds had two flags
 
and i won't
 
your suggestion was taken
 
never
facepalm
 
2:32 PM
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how can i call $apply from a myApp.run block in angular?
 
so, good night
 
or more importanly after using a run block to bind a click event to....
 
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That's what the konami leads to on smbc... Come on
 
2:34 PM
lol
 
trying to get
`app.run(['MenuService',
function (MenuService) {
angular.element(document).bind('click', function () {
if (MenuService.show) {
MenuService.show = false;
}
});
}
]);`
working basically
 
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But it's not possible to actually trigger the konami code lol
 
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Had to showBlock("konamicomic");
 
why will it not format?
 
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@loktar you have an oculus and shit. Play with adruinos and such?
 
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2:36 PM
I don't and I need a screen to start testing
 
I have, not a whole lot though
 
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Recommendation on a cheap-ass screen?
 
no idea check out sparkfun.com
I hooked my arduino up to some mind reader things
 
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@Loktar Sweet. Always thought those were cool. Impressed?
 
^ hooked the arduino up to those and got the data on the PC
@Jhawins meh, not too impressed idk
they use the same chip the neurosky used
I think they are a ways off sort of how VR was in the 90's
 
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2:38 PM
Yeah neurosky is the one I always looked at
 
one day mind reading will kick ass
my fav is the Emotiv Epoc
 
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Hell yeah
 
has 21 sensors
but it looks like a bitch to put on each time
the sensors need saline on them everytime too
 
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Damn screens are expensive!
 
@Jhawins yea i know i am looking 2 atm!
 
2:42 PM
Fuck you chat.stackoverflow.
now someone flag that get me suspended again.
 
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@DrogoNevets Which are you looking at?
 
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@AbhishekHingnikar lol damn
 
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It doesn't help that I have no idea what I'm looking for. Ha
 
see i flagged my own message :D
incoming ban in 3-2-1
 
@AbhishekHingnikar suspended?
when were you last suspended?
 
2:44 PM
@AbhishekHingnikar dude, give it a rest
you got one invalid suspension, don't sit here and beg for more
 
@Loktar yes twice, once for posting amazon then by jan dvorak. ( and party )
 
jan didn't alone ban you
that isn't how it works
 
heh crazy
 
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you need 7 points against. valid = 1 point. unsure = 0.5 point, invalid = -1 point iirc
 
2:46 PM
"unsure" is 0.5 point ?!!
 
@rlemon why on earth would people validate an amazon link as offensive ?
 
@dystroy iirc yes
@AbhishekHingnikar no clue. do you realize how the flags are seen?
 
wouldn't 14 unsure flag responses suspend me abotu the amazon ?
@rlemon yes. i have a clue.
 
@AbhishekHingnikar I preferred you when you were just angry about Microsoft.
3
 
ok... so I won't use "unsure" again... I thought it has no impact :\
 
2:48 PM
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15
A: How many chat flags are required to remove a message/ban a user?

balphaThese are the current numbers ("current" because they can obviously be changed, but there aren't any plans to do so; they have been like this for a while): The threshold is six, meaning the net flag count of the message has to reach six. Net flag count means the number of flags minus the number ...

@dystroy actual answer - so it turns out I was mis-informed
 
Installed Ubuntu 12.04 lts btw
 
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My specific use actually would probably be better suited for a mini projector. But I'm having trouble finding the hardware outside of an already commercialized product :(
 
What was so bad about amazon? was it Amazon.com?
or a woman amazon warrior?
 
@Loktar it was Amazon Fire TV
 
2:51 PM
yea the amazon flag was stupid
 
hah I guess I'm glad I didnt post it! I have a FireTV
 
likely someone flagged it because butthurt and other rooms validated without looking thinking you were spamming it
 
and I enjoy it
 
@Loktar i am thinking of buying one
 
@AbhishekHingnikar when flags happen, people get a little popup showing only your message and three buttons (validate, invalidate, unsure)
 
2:52 PM
If you don't have anything else capable of doing what it does you should get it
I like it much better than the chromecast even
 
@rlemon i guess for me everybody just did unsure :D
 
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@rlemon you work with small shit right?
 
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Like arduinos and such
 
if they don't click on the message to see the context surrounding it (which they are not forced into) there is very little use in them
 
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Fun stuff
 
2:53 PM
lots of false positives
@Jhawins yes
@Loktar I'm thinking of getting it
using my Wii for a netflix box is getting old.
 
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I need screen for dev.
 
@rlemon it might be overkill for you
you have the PS4
 
in another room
 
ahh ok
 
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But there are so many
 
2:54 PM
yeah I mean its pretty decent imo I really like it
 
PS4 is by my PC, my big TV is in my living room
 
Can we define operators at all in JS? like, for vector/matrix operations
 
we currently have a roku/chromecast/ps3/wii..
 
there is no operator overload @Mosho
 
but it works better than those imo
 
2:55 PM
@rlemon ok, thanks. But I still feel it wasn't obvious that "unsure" was a move towards ban :(
 
you have to write a function to handle those
 
right
 
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@Loktar how do those little google usb sticks work?
 
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But no
 
2:55 PM
ever tried one?
 
yeah thats the chromecast
its decent, problem is there aren't as many apps
 
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@rlemon Ewwwww they actually have to be plugged into the wall (duh) but google doesn't like, make that obvious.,
 
we use Amazon for watching movies, and Amazon isn't on it
 
@Jhawins thanks
 
@Jhawins not technically
 
2:56 PM
hrm
 
we have ours plugged into our TV's usb port to power it
but yeah it needs power in addition to the hdmi
 
user1596138
I had to also plug it into the wall for power
 
@Jhawins your TV doesn't pump out 5v then?
 
user1596138
Oh because... Wait.
 
@Jhawins I mean I have it plugged in into 2 places on the TV
 
2:56 PM
maybe 3.5 on the USB
 
talk about first world problems guys
 
HDMI + usb
 
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Wait you're right. I wasn't trying it on a TV with actual usb
 
user1596138
Makes sense. My buddy brought it over for all of an hour once haha
 
yeah otherwise you have to use a power brick
 
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2:57 PM
Yeah makes sense
 
if your tv doesnt have a usb port
 
@Jhawins not got very far re screens atm, im on a tight budget!
 
@Jhawins explain this :P
 
it is kind of lame though
they totally do not mention that at all lol they make you think you can plug it into just the hdmi
 
I have one of these
 
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2:58 PM
@rlemon I have an arduino, a Bluno on the way and a Pi. Working on a hardware/software project me and a buddy came up with and I need a screen I can drive from the arduino or the Pi
 
never looked back
 
@Jhawins ahh
 
needs some setup, but quite worth it
 
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Like, a small screen. Not a monitor
 
also if you are collecting pick up a BeagleBoneBlack
 
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2:58 PM
A screen for the actual device/concept I'm making
 
more power for ~same cost
I run all of mine headless :/ or with a monitor
but I know there are expansion boards with small lcd displays on them
 
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Yeah looks nice my buddy ordered one
 
and the BBB has a mini HDMI port
so that is a huge win
 
I used that forever, back before Mr. Doob made three.js
 
3:00 PM
@Loktar looks great! thanks
 
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Yeah I've seen those... I mean I can do everything without one, but when it comes to actually real-world testing the prototype (long way off, if ever) I'd need something :/
 
np
 
@Jhawins I am having the same issue
sucks :P
 
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@rlemon Didn't even see that. Sweet!
 
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Hmm...
 
3:01 PM
why not get a small little 10" display that takes very little power
 
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In my case a mini projector honestly is what I need in the end. But a screen would work even through most of testing if the idea were to work out
 
something you can toss into a case and go
 
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Way too big
 
user1596138
I need like an iPhone screen.
 
ahh
 
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3:01 PM
But I also need it to be like, an actual display.
 
mounted somewhere?
 
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Planning to actually run android
 
are you building an enclosure?
and do you need a digitizer?
 
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Yeah, 3D printing the enclosure down the line. For now just a plastic box :)
 
I'm really enjoying the BeagleBone elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBone_Capes
 
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3:03 PM
Nah the screen itself is literally just a screen. You potentially change all of the settings and such on the fly over BT from your phone
 
they have a few LCD capes (expansion boards)
 
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It's a really rough concept right now so I don't want to say :P
 
my rpi i've only ever hooked up to a real monitor
and arduino is headless
 
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Yeah same here on both
 
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I haven't done this before, so it's going to be fun
 
3:04 PM
once your BBB comes in I suggest looking into one of those capes
best part about the BBB and the capes - they are ALL open source
schematics and everything are free
 
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@rlemon Oh sweet!
 
we re-designed a cape and are manufacturing our own. and we're modifying the BBB to fit our needs
it is really nice to be able to legally do that :P
 
user1596138
Haha yeah, that'd be a nice freedom.
 
right now the BBB are in short supply (they got WAY too popular and the manufacturer couldn't keep up with the demand)
 
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First things first I need to transmit data wirelessly ~1 foot.
 
3:06 PM
but because they are open source, other people are looking into making them
 
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No wifi, don't know if bluetooth will work out awesome.
 
user1596138
So I clearly haven't even thought through most things yet :P
 
bluetooth is fine for that distance
 
@Loktar uh, why does the vector file add all those functions to the window lol
 
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But I basically need to do pairing once. That's it
 
3:07 PM
@Jhawins sure. think about how BT headsets work
pair once, done.
 
@Mosho because its from 2008 or 2009 :P
I didn't write it Mr. Doob did
 
ah :D
 
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Idk it's rough. There are reasons for the concern trust me :P
 
yeah, just wondering lol
 
you might be able to look in three.js source and find something better
 
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3:08 PM
But if I don't have issues I'm just going to use the bluno for that.
 
@Jhawins for sure. but with R&D projects you'd be surprised at how often you second guess a good idea
 
@Loktar I'll just edit it a bit
 
I've been doing it for the last 4 months :P
 
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I have to build a transmitter, receiver/screen||projector, app for smartphone interface
 
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Because the actual screen/device/cape won't be easily messed with
 
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3:09 PM
I guess I'm thinking too far ahead anyway haha. First I just need to get working code.
 
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I guess.
 
nice rep
1337
 
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I'm doing like everything basically haha.
 
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YES!
 
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I got a server guy who only knows VB/C# helping me. And has never written a line of code for production use
 
3:11 PM
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@Jhawins haha have fun
 
user1596138
The kicker is that I personally want the product myself more than any other reason I'm doing it haha
 
what it do
 
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Makes you... Safer
 
horrible to ask. but is there a way to force socket.io to use the xhr transport?
the ws are not working and I need a bandaid solution quick while I track that down
 
atm it attempts to make a ws connection then falls back on xhr. but that takes like ~10 seconds
 
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> transports defaults to websocket, htmlfile, xhr-polling, jsonp-polling

An array of allowed transport methods. The flashsocket transport is disabled by default, and can be enabled by setting the transports with the flashsocket option included.

flashsocket will not activate on Chrome or other browsers that fully support WebSockets, even if flashsocket is specified as the only transport. To test flashsocket, use IE 8 or IE 9, or other browsers that don't natively support WebSockets.
 
@AbhishekHingnikar they don't (tmk) make hand bags from Komodo Dragons.
might be mistaken. but I think the OP thought those were crocs
 
3:17 PM
yea i'm on that page
 
look like dinosaurs to me
 
user1596138
But I've never done it.
 
io.listen(port, { transports: ['xhr-polling'] });
like this?
 
user1596138
That's how I'd guess? Idk
 
user1596138
Wait
 
user1596138
3:19 PM
 io.set('transports', ['xhr-polling'])
 
user1596138
?
 
i'll test it
 
user1596138
Inside of io.configure
 
user1596138
Err. Maybe it can be done anywhere idk
 
3:31 PM
so i've got ~100 sd card adapters
anyone want em?
 
haha
the sd to micro?
 
I have the larger
(i'm using the micro, but they all come with the adapter)
 
@rlemon sure, I'd love one
 
how about a dozen?
 
user1596138
Hahahahaha
 
3:34 PM
I feel bad throwing them out
 
Mine didn't come with one
 
user1596138
Carrier pigeon me one
 
If they're free, who cares
send me a couple
 
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@rlemon send him all of them lol
 
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3:36 PM
He gets to take one, and has to send the other ~99 to someone else.
 
gist: Screw your JS up, 2014-04-17 14:54:11Z
 
my english is so bad when it gets closer to evening...
 
Try this in your browser and report back on what you get done.
 
user1596138
You'll just have to reload...
 
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Doing it to FF (as punishment for being a POS)
 
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3:40 PM
lmaoooo everything just.... Stops working. No errors, nothing.
 
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Awesome
 
console.log = window.alert.bind(window);
let the evil begin!
 
I prefer this:
JSON.parse = eval;
 
eval(b='for(c=new Date;new Date-c<c%1e3;);setTimeout(b,c%1e3)')
simulates lag on the page
 
console.log = console.error = window.onerror = window.alert.bind(window);
^ how about?
simulates IE pop up errors
 
3:43 PM
Function.prototype.bind = function (thisArg) {
    var args = [].slice.call(1);
    return function () {
        alert.apply(window, args);
    }
}
 
setInterval(function x(){ setInterval(x,10); debugger; },10);
 
(function trololol() {
  window.scrollTo(0,0);
  setTimeout(trololol, Math.random() * 1e3 + 1e3);
}());
!!afk lunch
 
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@rlemon definitely going with bbb. I hadn't looked at it
 
@rlemon looks like my chat before I tuned the "scroll to bottom when a new message comes in" behavior...
 
Is it just me, or is it really annoying when code is hosted on code.google.com ?
 
3:46 PM
or rather looks like many online papers...
@twiz no, it's not just you. They should have learnt from github.
 
Well, really devs should probably just have learned to use GitHub, but either way.
 
@twiz I think code.google.com predate github
 
Yea, I suppose it makes sense that old projects would be on there.
and no one is maintaining it anymore... haha
 

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