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5:00 PM
Don't drift rav4s.
 
@HatterisMad it's just really loose steering.
I can drive it, but I hate it.
 
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@Luggage I've seen one drift.... Into a truck
 
Probably because the evo has really tight steering.
 
!!get new captcha or stick to old?
 
@AwalGarg get new captcha
 
user1596138
5:01 PM
lol I'm over here like "My steering is massive and secure, whatever it feels like it feels like"
 
evo is the vehicle you are talking about where everyone goes under you?
 
but... ok
 
user2620028
@luggage i think he might be talking about my miata :/
 
@Luggage ha, no, it's pretty low. @someDoge likes his ridiculous trucks with 10 feet of clearance.
 
ohh, wrong person
 
user2620028
5:02 PM
@ssube i have something that can fix that loose steering problem of yours
 
Which just means that if we end up on the same road, I can fast and furious style drive under him.
 
hatter, no one goes under me either, except MAYBE miatas
 
user2620028
@luggage i parked my miata under a semi trailer once :D
 
early generation? they are the smallest, i thin
i actually fit my fat ass into a later gen.
 
user2620028
5:04 PM
Pre production year model :P
 
i had to ge a boxster. too fat for miata
also have an 85 Supra p-type
 
user2620028
hahaha
 
user2620028
could have gone with a s200 or z3-4
 
morning
 
i actually just wanted a boxster, but i say that as a joke
 
user2620028
5:05 PM
or old school and had a jensen healey
 
@HatterisMad yeah, I'll suggest that to her, but I think poor steering is a side-effect of having a mom car
 
i can fit in a miata, but it's not the most comfortable
 
@SomeKittens good morning.
 
user2620028
@ssube DO NOT suggest that to her lol you are asking for a wreck
 
anyone can fit in a miata, if you put your feet out the window.
 
5:06 PM
harder to drive that way
 
user2620028
@luggage i am used to driving my racecar which has approximately 2.5ft of clearance for a driver and steering wheel lol
 
new JS weekly!
 
Let us take a moment to take in the sheer volume of cocaine this post offers.
 
Also: I used to drive this
 
Yea, but that's differnt for a daily driver.
 
user2620028
5:07 PM
@ssube those steering wheel knobs are a son of a bitch to get used to and you are just asking for oversteer lol
 
Caprica Six is not wearing any hat, too bad :(
 
user2620028
@luggage you would think so but i put my knees behind the steering wheel and scoot the driver seat up to where the steering wheel is almost in my stomach
 
user1596138
@ssube I can fit a 5gal bucket under my frame rail (and then a fist) it's not that tall lol I just think vehicles shouldn't be as low as they are
 
@HatterisMad airbag
 
hey y'all
question about image asset loading
 
5:09 PM
low is good. stable.
not everyone needs to rock crawl
 
user1596138
 
user1596138
This isn't big.
 
user1596138
That's before the lift lol but still. That's not big at all. That's reasonable.
 
@someDoge you take a cloverleaf at 80 and low starts to make sense. So do wide tires and torque vectoring, when you feel it kick in.
 
if a background image is loaded once on an element, does it make another trip to the server if it's called again on a different element? or is it cached?
 
5:10 PM
how much lift?
 
user1596138
And I buy a new set of snow tires every other year.
 
@EricT it's cached
 
user1596138
I'm practical, I'm safe, I do maintenance.
 
@someki
@SomeKittens thanks
 
user1596138
@ssube At 80? Why were you doing 80mph at all? That's another thing.
 
5:11 PM
@someDoge why wouldn't you do 80? It's at or just over the limit on most freeways.
 
user1596138
Your odds of death increase exponentially with speed in a vehicle.
 
Protip: Don't die.
 
user1596138
Maybe in Texas
 
@SomeKittens what about dynamically changing the src property on an img?
 
^ solid tip
 
user1596138
5:12 PM
70 is the highest speed in Indiana.
 
iirc, the limit in ND was 75 or 80
 
70 here
 
here, it's 65 on a lot of roads
 
used to be 65
 
user1596138
I don't even drive on the interstate (70mph) here. Not because I can't or my vehicle can't. Because it's silly lol I hate how people are always in such a hurry.
 
5:13 PM
@EricT What about it? If you change it to something the browser's already requested (and the cache headers are still valid), yep.
 
ok figured
thanks
 
sometime a drive is nice. sometimes geetting to your destination is nicer.
 
@EricT Get to know and love the Chrome DevTools.
 
user1596138
@Luggage Leave earlier, reduce commute
 
user1596138
Not go faster lol
 
5:13 PM
"Those crazy kids on their highways.. always going fast to nowhere!"
 
@Luggage yeah. You have the freeway or roads with stoplights every 1/4 mile.
 
user1596138
Highways != interstates
 
I have a short commute. < 4 miles. I'm no in a hurry for work. But.. not all trips are about the drive, even if they aren't work
 
user1596138
Idk roads must be different for you guys.
 
user1596138
@Luggage Of course not about the drive. But getting there safely is the most important thing.
 
5:14 PM
i was thinking interstate, but ooften misused the word highway
as many do
 
and if you're going interstate, then you probably have a ways to go, and an few extra mph can cut hours off the trip
 
@Luggage Four miles can be terrible here
 
user1596138
Right I'd take the interstate on a road trip to Colorado sure
 
plus, 80 in a straight line is pretty safe
 
@EricT You can check a list of cached items with headers and details from chrome at chrome://cache/
 
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5:15 PM
@ssube NO
 
user1596138
lmfao no
 
Explain
 
user1596138
You realize how miniscule an object it takes to send you literally airborn at 80mph
 
@copy me?
 
hm.. driving the next county over to my parents? spend 1 hour on some backroads that are pleasant to drive sometimes, in the summer.. but not today or < 20 minutes on the interstate.
 
5:16 PM
@AwalGarg No
 
ok
 
user1596138
@Luggage If you're faces with an hour vs. 20 minutes ofc lol
 
user1596138
I mean... Ok a lot of my views are just extended from the motorcycle to the truck.
 
yea.. that why i don't understand avoiding an interstate jsut to drive longer.
 
user1596138
I've been run over. Ha
 
user1596138
5:17 PM
Like I'm driving in a perfect fucking straight line.
 
user1596138
Dude ran over me.
 
angularjs question: i'm trying to use $window.location.href to cause a page direct.. however i notice that in angularjs going to that entire path would not work if part of the ngroute is defaulting to "/" it'll go to the default one without continuing the entire path and load, any ideas about that?
 
yea, motorcycles are like that. you gotta dodge traffic
 
user1596138
In town I was passing DQ... Dude pulls out in front of me and I drive through someones yard to avoid him.
 
user1596138
On the highway someone merged lanes into me
 
5:18 PM
@someDoge a very large one.
 
user1596138
Hahahahahaha
 
i've never had to go off road but did have ot avoid other cars many times on a bike, i get it
 
first sip of coffee. hennnnnngngngnnggggg that hit.mmmmm
 
I've put my car in the air, on purpose and not, and it's not easy to do.
Those things are heavy as hell.
 
@darkyen00 You rang?
 
user1596138
5:20 PM
@ssube Look at it this way... The odds of something going wrong at those speeds are higher, right? As in your steering is under more strain in a high speed turn, your tires are under more stress, there is a truly massive amount of airflow working against you.. There's just more stress. So point 1. Your vehicle is arguably more likely to have mechanical failure at a higher speed (and this increase is exponential, not linear).
 
user1596138
Point 2 is other people, you can't predict other people. So when the unpredictable accident happens what speed would you rather be at?
 
@someDoge as a kid, I drove a ranger, and you could feel that start losing traction around 70 or so. It was super light, small wheels, lousy feedback but you could still tell it wasn't sticking.
 
what speeds are we talking about? moderns cars and interstaes can handle 90mph + easily. People can be careless, though
 
user1596138
It's not a justified opinion I'll be the first to say that.
 
The evo runs out of speed before it has those problems.
 
5:21 PM
yea, i don't have those problems. 60 mph and 120 feel the same
 
@Luggage I wouldn't go that far. Steering behavior changes a lot.
 
user1596138
@ssube Huh? That's random. If you'd like to make a comparison with my truck you need a bit more than "I drove a ranger too"
 
now a ranger, sure.. it's not gonna feel nice going too fast.
 
user1596138
My ranger has front and rear 1" sway bars lol
 
but it's lifted.
 
5:22 PM
@someDoge Not comparing to your truck, comparing two things I've driven a lot. You can feel when a car is coming up into the air, and the evo doesn't.
 
probably has the wrong tires for it, too
 
user1596138
"It's lifted" is too ambiguous...
 
The new recaptcha API is so much more sane than the previous one, good job google. Now de-uglify your OAuth thing as well xD
 
is there a reason why $window.location.href doesn't go all the way to the entire path, but sees the default in the beginning and resolves to it
 
user1596138
I've seen "lifted" with 6" body pucks
 
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5:23 PM
@Luggage What defines wrong tires to you? I bet you wouldn't have said gearing.
 
@AwalGarg de-uglify?
 
so some types of lift are better/differnt than other but NO type of lift helps at high speed handling
 
@Luggage they get scary pretty quick
 
user1596138
Can @ssube even tell me what gears his car is on
 
@SomeKittens pain to work with
Facebook does it so nicely.
 
5:24 PM
@someDoge it's a 6 speed, twin clutch getrag, although I don't know the ratios off the top of my head.
 
What do you mean? isn't it in whatever gear you put i tin?
 
user1596138
Rangers come with 3.73s and 3.55s commonly... For those, 31" tires would be without a doubt "wrong". Now if you run 4.10s, 31" tires are actually in the sweet spot.
 
Mostly because I'm almost never going to touch that tranny, since it's like $10k on its own.
 
user1596138
@ssube See you started talking transmission.... You guys are thinking transmissions...
 
user1596138
I'm talking about your axles.
 
5:25 PM
oh. "on" not "in"
yea, i have no idea what my transaxle's ratios are either
 
user1596138
lol
 
oh, yeah, no
 
user1596138
@Luggage Eww front wheel drive?
 
no, rear
 
user1596138
Then you don't have a transaxle :P
 
5:25 PM
my transmission is in the rear
i sure as hell do
engine in the middle, trans in the rear
 
user1596138
I mean... You could...
 
liek it shoudl be
 
user1596138
But likely not hahaha
 
user1596138
Oh hell yeah midengine is different
 
user2620028
@KendallFrey I will take my chances without the airbag. I have been in about 7 high speed collisions one of which was a roll over at 90mph in a convertible. I have never had an airbag deploy.
 
user2620028
5:26 PM
I hate mid engine cars lol
 
user2620028
They stick to the road and give no sign of understeer or oversteer. And you keep driving them i harder until eventually they just grip too much and flip
 
that so depends on the car
an 87 mr2 is way differant than, say, a boxster
 
@HatterisMad Drive a Reliant Robin
 
user2620028
Of course but that is much more a tendency of a mid engine car
 
user2620028
@Kendall That would be so much fun lol
 
5:28 PM
speaking of flipping cars...
 
user1596138
Anyway my point is there are a lot of aspects that are just overlooked.. Funny thing is your axle ratio is one of the most important things in your vehicle
 
@KendallFrey that would be a great time.
 
user2620028
yep, besides tires it is the last gearing ratio
 
it's important, but it's chosen based on your engine and transmission. most people have no reason to know what it is or change it.
 
user1596138
@Luggage Nah, it's not. They ship identical trucks with different ratios. If you have a manual transmission I expect you to know what your axle ratio is
 
5:30 PM
That's a truck.
 
user1596138
Same with cars.
 
"grandma, you chose the 3.45 for you rav 4? you fool!"
 
user1596138
Rav4 has a 6 speed who gives a shit lol
 
"Screw you, kids!" grandma drives off in a cloud of tire smoke
 
user1596138
That's enough gears
 
5:31 PM
That's my point! :)
 
user1596138
Ever swapped gears?
 
user2620028
That racecar has spoiled me so much for street cars. I look at a street car and go.... where is my adjustable shocks and torsion bars... where is my adjustable down force spoilers, where is my fuel shutoff valve, where is my quick change rear end.
 
user1596138
Have fun with that lmfao took me like 2 days the first time
 
user2620028
@someDoge yes... up to 5 times in one night
 
No, and i don't plan to. I'm NOT using my car for some specialty purpose liek hauling or racing and have no need to deviate form the standard
 
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5:32 PM
@HatterisMad on a race car where you either don't have to shim it or you've recorded everything for backlash and such :P
 
i chose the higher ratio when i bought a mustang serveral years back. for the lulz
 
user2620028
dont have to shim it :D
 
user1596138
@HatterisMad just toss it in and watch it explode lol
 
user2620028
yuuup
 
user1596138
@Luggage Starting to draw my point out now.. These things don't matter for your car because you only drive on the normal road.
 
5:33 PM
Are we talking race cars or street cars here? because i change my answer for race cars
 
Best car for street racing:
 
ok, yea.. see i thought we wer talking about street cars, since you are against people going fast :)
 
user1596138
@Luggage street
 
user2620028
you need a 3 piece 4.11 titanium rear end with a quick change access panel
 
No one should go over 55 and you better damn know your final ratio.
 
user1596138
5:34 PM
Yup.
 
user1596138
That would be ideal
 
user1596138
And everyone needs to stay in tiny cars!!
 
user2620028
YEA
 
That are high off the ground?
 
user1596138
That way they go under my ass instead of into my window when they tbone me
 
5:35 PM
ohh, gotcha
 
user1596138
@Luggage No if they were high off the ground I would have no safety advantage :P
 
everyone ELSE.
 
user1596138
Right. Everyone that is ok to die.
 
user2620028
I am cool with dying in a car
 
user1596138
@ssube you know why i have a truck forreal right? Haha it's not for these reasons
 
5:36 PM
when i am being tailgated by some jerk in a lifted ranger, wondering if he'll make it over my rollbar when he hits me, i'll think of you
 
user1596138
 
user1596138
All honesty... It's because I'm lazy.
 
user1596138
I would have to snow blow ALL THE WAY DOWN THAT HILL
 
I had an AMC eagle for that. :)
 
user1596138
@Luggage I LOVE YOU
 
user1596138
5:38 PM
I want an SX4 and I want to throw a merc turbodiesel in it and do 35mpg in 4x4.
 
@someDoge I learned to drive in an SX4
 
user1596138
@HatterisMad I almost thought this was our private room for a minute hahaha. @owners I didn't realize how much we've said you can bin this and move back to topic
 
user1596138
@TomW Me too!!
 
user1596138
That and a 16 passenger van
 
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5:39 PM
@TomW That made me cry
 
@someDoge or get a volvo or e30 ix
then it's lolsnow all day
 
user1596138
 
oh.
 
user1596138
 
the hell
...'murka
 
5:41 PM
Ohh, everywhere in the world do people love playing with vehicles.
 
user1596138
Right lol. My boss had 2 on the farm I worked on when I was ~13-16 and I got one running and then made jumps in the field and destroyed it
 
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i.stack.imgur.com/VzLDR.jpg // yeah the main thing is that it's fun. How else am I going to spend my time and money before I even have it? :P
 
I don't even car, bro.
 
obviously by lifting, then lowering, then lifting your truck
seemingly the only pastime available to people with trucks :P
 
5:44 PM
Although for a few brief moments I considered binning the idea of buying a home and buying a beaten up Trans Am instead
 
and running their mouths about final ratios. j/k :)
 
user2620028
@ssube don't forget towing things and helping people who don't own trucks move
 
I'd have learned to maintain cars then, for sure.
 
@Luggage trucks involve an awful lot of worry for something that can't do more than 50 or turn, it's impressive
it's like when you rent a dedicated server with vmware to run your wordpress site behind a router
 
5:46 PM
@ssube to learn how to do it, obviously!
 
user1596138
@ssube Well I don't need a lift to do most things lol
 
user1596138
You mean by breaking, fixing stronger and then breaking it worse
 
Anyone here uses Edge The Web Ruler?
 
@TomW don't get me wrong, knowing how it works is useful, especially for the future when you might actually have a use for it.
 
Just like I don't NEED a beer in the morning.
 
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5:47 PM
@ssube LOL well when your beamer slides into a ditch on the ice who do you call :P . Not another car
 
@someDoge we don't have ditches here
 
user2620028
@ssube dafuq where do you live
 
user1596138
Plus yeah at least once a week I haul something for someone other than myself.
 
the middle of minneapolis
 
user1596138
Often I tow (that's why I got those 4.10s :P)
 
5:48 PM
yea, another car: fastestlaps.com/photos/…
 
I haven't spent more than a day or two out of the city in like 2 years
 
user2620028
@luggage is that an eclipse body?
 
user1596138
@ssube Well then yeah dude obviously it makes sense to have a car :P
 
where trucks are silly and impractical for most people, they're utterly ridiculous here
there isn't a ditch for miles
 
No, it's it's own thing, but it does use taillight sand door handles form toher cars. i think the door handles are from a miata
 
5:49 PM
a bag of sand and awd is all you need
 
user2620028
@luggage so they are lol
 
@Shmiddty solved the issue.
i was approaching it wrong.
 
user1596138
@ssube They're not silly or impractical here. I have a dirt bike/street bike, my immediate family farms some ~200acres, my sisters have horses and goats. That sand and AWD won't do jack shit for me
 
Accidentally nudged my mouse backwards with my arm, thought it was going over the edge, kicked the desk with my knee trying to catch the mouse. Fuck.
 
@Luggage What. The fuck. Is that.
I want one
 
user2620028
5:50 PM
@someDoge does everyone in Indiana own goats?
 
It's a Local Motors Rally Fighter: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Local_Motors
 
user1596138
Yea lol
 
@someDoge "for most people". If you live on a farm, then they're useful, and that obviously doesn't apply.
 
@HatterisMad Yes, but don't tease them about it. It's personal.
 
Most people don't live on farms with dirt roads.
 
5:50 PM
@HatterisMad nope only the ones who shag them.
 
user1596138
@ssube Yeah I mean honestly tho lots of people here.... Ok, if you have a body lift you shouldn't have a truck
 
@darkyen00 I said don't tease them
 
and having a truck in the city is purely being a tool and waving your wiener around
 
@Luggage less flashy, but with a great track record: Bowler Nemesis en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bowler_Nemesis
 
@KendallFrey sorry mom.
 
5:51 PM
Bowler vehicles win the Paris-Dakar fairly often IIRC
 
user1596138
(for those of you who don't know) This is a body lift kit.
 
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i.stack.imgur.com/hZa7W.jpg // yes, those are plastic pucks. You place them under every body mount. Then your truck is sitting on pieces of plastic with double length bolts, the body is lifted, the frame and all other parts stay stock height.
 
there is no reason to drive from the suburbs to downtown and park your f350 in the public parking garage so you can take the skyway to your office building
 
@TomW And it could blend in at a shopping mall.
 
user2620028
@someDoge just make your own ffs. At least with iron lol
 
5:52 PM
Until you hear it.
 
@Incognito it kind of did.
 
user1596138
I just love enlightening people as to what a body lift is. It's the most popular type of lift.. It's fucking hilarious!!
 
@someDoge do you even lift bro
 
user1596138
Like "Yeah I want the cab to sit higher, nothing else, and I want to ride on plastic spacers"
 
user1596138
Side note: Googling "Body lift" to find a picture was.... Well it's a bad idea.
 
user2620028
5:53 PM
@someDoge do the nice lift kits but in grommets at least? lol
 
@darkyen00 dude you got a minute?
 
user1596138
@HatterisMad Yeah, some come with like spacer bars of plastic to go between the body and frame rail too so it doesn't just look like a huge gap
 
user1596138
Mines all suspension. If someone asks me to help install a BL I decline.
 
@someDoge you should. They're the equivalent of wings.
 
user2620028
@ssube what do you have against wings.....
 
5:55 PM
@AwalGarg kinda sorta, speak young saiyan what you wish ?
 
@HatterisMad on the 99 celica your mom bought? a lot.
On a race car? Not a damn thing.
 
@darkyen00 come to miaou?
 
user2620028
@ssube my mother used to build engines for drag cars, sprint cars, and one nascar engine back in the days. She wouldn't be caught dead in a celica. She drove a 70 cuda with a 6 pack hemi though
 
If you know it's just cosmetic and people will laugh at you, the wings are fine.
 
@HatterisMad if my car can safely stick to the road at 120+ without a wing, you definitely don't need one to sit in a parking lot and rev your engine at teeange girls.
 
user2620028
5:56 PM
@ssube look at my profile picture
 
unelss it actually helps get the girls, in which case, go for it
 
user1596138
@ssube No a wing doesn't do anything at normal speeds... A body lift makes you less stable sitting still hahaha
 
(assumign you are of an age where that's not creepy)
 
@Luggage if it did, yes, absolutely.
 
user2620028
We have put the wings from our racecars on street vehicles as jokes before
 
user1596138
5:57 PM
@ssube 1. Don't do 120+, it's bad; 2. Wtf
 
but as someone with an import tuner, I have to be very careful not to fall into the trap.
 
@someDoge Everyone does stupdi things. less so as we age.
 
I was clocked by a cop at 127mph (in a 65mph zone)
 
user2620028
@ircmaxell did he have a prize printed especially for you?
 
user1596138
My motorcycle breaks 100... The speedo stops there tho
 
5:58 PM
It's like going to starbucks with a mac and a scarf. You do it once, think it's ok, suddenly you're too far gone and will forever be a hipster.
 
@HatterisMad yup, a $100 bill
 
user1596138
@ircmaxell You only got charged $100?
 
user2620028
@someDoge i accidentally hit ~110 on the duc in third gear O.o
 
user1596138
My 71 in a 55 cost me $176 and defensive driving.
 
@HatterisMad is that actually practical in any way?
 
user2620028
5:58 PM
@ssube the wing on the racecar?
 
the picture is too small to tell what's going on
 
@someDoge he paid me
 
@ssube Unless you got a mac because you wanted a decent posix environment (me) and go to starbucks becasue you get distracted at home (me).
 
user1596138
@Luggage ME
 
I don't have any scarves, though
 
5:59 PM
it was on a bet. I had a Geo Tracker, which had a blown cylinder. He bet me $100 that it couldn't break 70mph, I said it could go over 100. So he paced me on a bet. I hit 127 mph on a downhill stretch
 
@Luggage darwin environment where sed and grep don't work right
 

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