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11:00 AM
Lol
@AwalGarg JQUERY
 
xD
CSS Motion Paths are coming! \o/
 
Back to my original query - Does Backbone / Marionette depend on hash changes for its Routing?
 
@AwalGarg so what would u start learning first jQuery vs Vanilla? jquery i guess ..?
 
-_-
 
I found jQuery easier to pick up, but Vanilla alot more powerful to use.
 
11:11 AM
@AwalGarg Hahahahahaha
@user3470815 Awal is our resident jQuery expert
He even codes back end in jQuery
 
@Sippy Did he code yours in jQuery :P
 
@Sippy so he loves jQuery?
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum yeah I wouldn't want it, as in I know I wouldn't be in this chat if that had been the case, but the concept is interesting/likeable
 
@user3470815 Absolutely.
 
@dystroy 2.9
 
11:14 AM
Framework-first is the bane of my bug-fixing life.
I've met actual programmers who think that jQuery is a programming language.
 
@mintsauce were they fluent inBootstrap?
 
Is Bootstrap a jQuery plugin?
 
@mintsauce I always almost call it a language
 
@mintsauce It's an "all in one / kitchen sink" CSS framework that is poluting the internet
 
11:17 AM
I've had a conversation where I said 'JavaScript' and the response was 'do you mean jQuery?'.
 
I catch myself typing it all the time, really annoying.
 
@Sippy you!
 
I did nothing.
hides in shell
 
It's funny how it's becoming mainstream among MS devs at a point in time where it's becoming irrelevant.
 
!!afk - @Sippy would like to answer all your PHP and jQuery questions.
 
11:19 AM
jQuery will someday be a thing of the past - people are moving on
@Sippy I have some jQuery / PHP questions :D
 
@Sippy how do I round a number from PHP in jQuery plzzz
 
s/will someday be/is/
 
@AwalGarg good to know, so sippy is the PHP master.
 
@Sippy How do I update jQuery element from PHP selector?
 
Low adoption in mobile is a clue.
 
11:21 AM
@RoelvanUden i keel u
You're all getting pincered
 
In your sleep
Prepare yourselves for ninja crab.
 
@Sippy plzzzz
 
@mintsauce Its a massive resource to load onto a mobile site
 
LEEEEEEROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOY
 
11:22 AM
JENKINS!
 
They have a Leeroy Jenkins follower on WoW now, voiced by the guy who did the video.
Bit weird.
 
my name's Jeff
 
@JustSteveKing Yeah, and, in the West at least, mobile browsers are more likely to be up-to-date.
 
No
"My name'a Jeff"
The teletubbies one is the best
 
@Sippy I haven't actually seen the movie .. shame
 
11:24 AM
It's ok.
The movie, that is.
 
@mintsauce Even when you have a good mobile, and fast connection - you are paying to download the file so you can look at a site. Bitch I ain't paying because people use Bootstap, jQuery, jQuery UI, and a shit ton of other frameowrks to make up for their lack of coding ability
@Sippy I want to watch it - but finding time in between asking for jQuery help and being a Jedi is hard
 
@PostgrePeople for storing user's ip address (for no good reason, actually), should I use cidr or inet?
@SecondRikudo ^
 
Do you think mobile development will continue for long time or the actual hype will end?
 
Damn, what's with all the hate? If you make your own builds to minimize network usage for those ANCIENT DATA CONNECTIONS then you shouldn't complain for your devs using something that makes them productive and have a standard. Jeebus.
 
@user3470815 It will never end, if anything it will get worse
 
11:26 AM
@AwalGarg @dystroy or @FlorianMargaine would probably know better than me.
 
@JustSteveKing Yeah. Ability isn't the problem, I think. Just a lack of awareness.
 
@user3470815 Not in quite a few years it won't.
 
Hmm, I hope they will see the question context from the pings....
 
@mintsauce Could be a mixture. I mean I hold my hands up I have built those monster sites before!
 
@JustSteveKing It isn't a lack of coding ability
 
11:27 AM
@AwalGarg Y U NO USE PHP
 
@JustSteveKing How often do you hold your hands up? Just sometimes?
 
Nor a lack of awareness
Well, maybe it is a matter of awareness, but not by devs.
 
@Sippy Never in the last year :) I have been clean for a year lol
 
@JustSteveKing could you expand on that, how is it that mobile users have to pay to use libraries or i misunderstood?
 
Business people still like IE, and not overly aware of mobile
Today I'd gladly throw away any and all IE support in favor of a strong mobile support.
 
11:28 AM
@SecondRikudo For some reason there are even devs here that prefer to use IE
 
It's a question of supporting 50% of the browser share or 5%.
 
And won't even look at other browsers :/
 
The devs I hang around with develop in IE. :-(
 
@Sippy I won't even look at them in that case.
 
@user3470815 With a mobile data connection, your browser will download a copy of the site for you to see. Hence your browser loading in every library the developer used on the front end. I have seen some sites with 30+ CSS and JS files being loaded in ...
 
11:29 AM
This kind of approach disgusts me.
 
I sit next to one, he's a good dev, really good, but he uses IE and that makes him less than human :D
 
It's pretty common. :-(((
 
@mintsauce The devs around you are idiots.
 
The new dev tools in IE are ok - but they aren't wuite as good as Chrome yet
 
I don't think we have a single IE user in the entire company.
 
11:30 AM
@SecondRikudo I should mention he's a WPF developer, not a web dev.
 
@JustSteveKing ok i understand now thx for clarifying
 
@Sippy IDGAF.
 
@SecondRikudo xD
 
@SecondRikudo Naive, certainly.
 
11:30 AM
As a developer of any kind, you must be open enough to try out new technologies, even if it has nothing much to do with your current development stack.
 
Just in case any of you want to cry ^
 
@user3470815 Your welcome. I used to be a server admin before I got into development - so my philosophy is different to alot of devs
 
I switch from Windows to Linux, from IE to Chrome to FF back to Chrome
Different office software, different IDEs, different mail carriers
If you don't evolve you die.
 
Chrome is a poor browser.
 
@AwalGarg It's currently the best there is.
FF is fat and slow, IE is IE.
 
11:31 AM
Chrome is aweful as a browser - but their dev tools are much better IMO
 
@SecondRikudo hardly.
 
netscape ftw
 
Safari is a less... good... version of Chrome
Opera I've tried once and never really liked.
 
Is Safari usable now?
 
Chrome's graphics processing (or webkit, in general), is terrible.
 
11:32 AM
I used to use Opera but it was bloated like FF is
 
ASR
var jsonArrayTemp = jsonObject.objJsonArray ; // whats the meaning of this line?
 
@AwalGarg i dont know if poor but, when you have your web working perfect with ie & ff suddenly you try it in chrome and kaboom... not working in chrome have to find a workaround , change code...
 
And chrome would parse some non-standard bad code behind the scenes, without saying anything.
FF etc. would throw an error.
 
Has anyone tried Maxathon??
 
@JustSteveKing It's IE based === crap.
 
11:34 AM
It looks nice though lel
 
IE11 and FF are better than chrome in many ways.
 
@AwalGarg JSLint.
 
@mintsauce that is true even after parsing with JSLint.
 
@AwalGarg Example?
 
@AwalGarg Lack of a decent compiler is not an excuse for lack of developer discipline.
 
11:36 AM
haha @SecondRikudo
 
If you use non standard code you accept that different browsers will behave differently.
 
@SecondRikudo i didnt expect chrome to fail array.sort()... not being stable
 
Non standard code by definition allows for nasal demons. So don't complain if Chrome tried to make the best of the situation and FF simply rejects it.
 
@user3470815 You've read the spec.?
 
@SecondRikudo for example, you get some date data from an api. And you wanna parse it. The date strings are not code-friendly. Chrome would add extra data to them but parse it anyway. Not so with FF and IE etc.
 
11:39 AM
@AwalGarg An API should be code friendly, that's kind of the point.
If you need to parse none code friendly things, you need a facade to normalize shit.
 
@AwalGarg What's the specific example, and what does the spec. say?
 
Not rely on the browser to magically understand mambo jambo.
 
@SecondRikudo thing is that, it is not according to the spec.
 
@Kermani stop.
 
HAMMERTIME!
 
11:40 AM
@Witiko @Kermani stop it right now
 
@Witiko What should I stop?
 
HAMMERTIME!
 
@mintsauce whar spec?
 
@mintsauce hold on, lemme get one
 
11:42 AM
Chrome failing sort() jsfiddle.net/jyqbh2q3/25
dont bother fixing it.. at the end i used a mergesort
 
dat code
 
@user3470815 yeah I'm sure thats a bug in chrome, and definitely not in your code.
 
xD
 
it is a bug in chrome, with the sort function not being stable.
i just posted it as an example to the "Chrome defenders and believers" haha
@phenomnomnominal welcome Master dindt see ya
 
@user3470815 you have a bug
not chrome.
You don't consider any cases where you need to sort the number before the x.
 
11:48 AM
5
Q: Extend room owner kicking capabilities

Second RikudoI think that the (relatively) new room owner kicking capabilities are an invaluable moderation tool to replace flagging rings in most cases. The current limitations say that a room owner cannot kick another user unless that user has spoken recently in the room. I would like to extend the limitat...

Reminder that this exists ^
 
@user3470815 I've fixed it for you: jsfiddle.net/phenomnomnominal/jyqbh2q3/39
 
@SecondRikudo So you can kick the owner of the room >.< lel
 
@phenomnomnominal but... why? :(
 
@phenomnomnominal thats because the function that i use spits the numbers before the x already ordered, so no need
 
@SecondRikudo what is this aarthi thing among mods?
 
11:52 AM
@phenomnomnominal you are the MASTER i
 
I hate hash changes -_-
 
@AwalGarg Aarthi used to be an employee.
 
@SecondRikudo now it is a meme?
 
Dunno
 
~_~
 
11:56 AM
@user3470815 Did you read the spec? sort doesn't have to be stable.
 
!!> (new Date('2014-02-11 00:00')).getDate();
 
@AwalGarg "NaN"
 
^try this in chrome
 
!!> [1,2,3].map(x=>x*x);
 
@mintsauce [1,4,9]
 
12:00 PM
:-D
 
It's sad to see such a stupid answer upvoted :
0
Q: Is there any memory leak in this Stack Implementation?

Senthil Arumugam SPIn the below stack implementation, which uses a simple linked object and doesn't use any collection. Do you see any memory leak? Below Code: public class Stack { private Node nextNode = null; private class Node { String data; Node adjNode; } public void put(St...

 
I couldn't write it :( . I feel so useless
 
@dystroy did you see rikudo's pings?
 
!!> [for (x of [1,2,3]) console.log(x*x)]
 
@mintsauce ["undefined","undefined","undefined"] Logged: 1,4,9
 
12:04 PM
@AwalGarg no
 
:-D
 
39 mins ago, by Awal Garg
@PostgrePeople for storing user's ip address (for no good reason, actually), should I use cidr or inet?
any idea?
 
Has any one of you guys bought the Cards against humanity bullshit pack
 
@AwalGarg Sorry, I have no competences in CIDR (or in subnetting)
 
@mintsauce I was WRONG and it was my code not chromes fault as phenomenial pointed
3
 
12:06 PM
ok, no problem :)
 
@user3470815 topkek
 
@user3470815 Well bugs do happen. Never hurts to ask.
 
never hurts to blame the browser itself ;D
 
Is this a good way around for using push state over hash change? github.com/browserstate/history.js
 
the slowest thing in Mint is opening the home folder. I can sudo shutdown now by that time. twice
 
12:12 PM
@argentum47 Mint is a little awful atm
@argentum47 Do you like MDM though?
 
mozilla development m ?
 
@argentum47 Mint Display Manager
 
I don't like anything in Mint
 
@argentum47 The html/javascript/css login manager
 
where is it?
 
12:13 PM
this is sooo pain :(
1
Q: Getting Due tasks in coming 5 days using JS

Customized NameHere I am trying to get items whom date is either today or is in coming 7 days, I might be trying to do it totally wrong but this is what I am trying so far, var CountDueTasks = 0; var CountDueFiveTasks = 0; var CountOverdueTasks = 0; $.each(data.GetTasksResult.Tasks, function (index, item)...

 
@argentum47 Which version of Mint are you using?
 
17 mate
that name is an irony
 
@argentum47 here are some resources noobslab.com/2014/04/…
I am just trying to remember where the settings were
Try going to system settings and having a look in the appearance area
 
okies
 
Ahh I found a great quote "IE was the first to do a lot of things, but supporting standards was not one of the things"
IE = Break all the things!
 
12:22 PM
@JustSteveKing That's not accurate.
 
@SecondRikudo ok maybe all is an exaggeration ....
 
IE was a great browser that failed to evolve, and its users kept using older versions even though the specs and technologies evolved at a much faster rate.
IE6 was a superb browser at the time.
Now, over 20 years later, it isn't, but some people still treat it as though it is.
 
What ? IE6 was never a superb browser...
 
@dystroy At the time, it was the best browser around.
By far.
 
IE the most annoying browser ever, now, in past and I can see in future too
 
12:23 PM
no
 
do you remember IE6 crashed when saving a page at 99% progress ?? Thats how i rember ie
 
IE 9 = IE 8 had a baby with the annoying paper clip
 
When IE6 was released, Firefox was already available
@JustSteveKing IE9 brought many technologies that were only available in other browsers. IE9 is the first version of IE you could almost use
 
I think FF needs to work on their UI a little more
@dystroy They key here is almost - the paper clip was a little useful
 
@rlemon That apostrophe, while technically valid in context, makes my face twitch
 
12:27 PM
Most (about) modern CSS, SVG, canvas, various media are in IE9. Too bad it was so buggy.
 
All MS browsers are shit because of vendor lock-in.
 
ie 6 helped to hack
but then I wasn't born or didn't have a pc during that time
 
Let's stop talking about IE....
 
aye
 
@argentum47 You don't know if you were born ?
 
12:30 PM
I don't know when IE6 came in existance
:D
 
I guess you were born in 2001
 
that's too late.
almost 8 years
 
Doesn't your name mean you were born in 1947 ?
 
:O , I didn't get that.
no
argentum is silver
atomic number 11
4+7 = 11
why 4 and why 7 .. can't say..
 
silver's atomic number is 47
 
12:41 PM
Hum... Some people seem to revert all stars. Do you think they're all winter bash related or what ???
 
hello to all
 
@AniketDeshmukh hi :)
@dystroy I star things that are funny/interesting
 
u have idea about drag and drop
 
@AniketDeshmukh I do :)
 
@JustSteveKing And don't you find funny to have Argentum47 totally unaware of how the 47 is related to Ag ? Well, you may not, but why remove stars of people having different opinions ?
 
12:43 PM
great
 
@dystroy I didn't remove any stars :/
 
u know any site that provide proper info
 
jQuery or JavaScript?
 
@JustSteveKing Don't forget PHP
 
@JustSteveKing Java
 
12:44 PM
Please stop removing stars of regulars. If they want a hat they probably know better than randomly star in there
7
 
@Sippy wouldn't dream of it ;)
 
@Unihedro crab-hat-high-five!
 
inb4 someone unstars dystroy's star
@Sippy Yay high five!
 
@dystroy stared so people see it ;P
 
:( i want a crab hat high five too
 
12:45 PM
@Meredith But you don't have a crab hat.
Oh yeah you do
 
high-fives @Meredith
 
@Meredith CRAB HAT HIGH FIVE!
 
Yay
 
in Tcl, yesterday, by Unihedro
The hat I am wearing in the avatar was obtained in the Winterbash 2014 event, which is a Stack Exchange tradition. I exceptionally liked the hat because it is easy to get, and its requirement was to downvote five posts; Being a frequent downvoter, I found a huge bond with the hat and wore it during the season.
 
Only the truly special get a high pincer though, because I am a crab.
A crab who can touchtype.
 
12:46 PM
How do you know if you have hats ...
 
@JustSteveKing Hats!
Go on the main site, find a snowflake on the topbar and select "I love hats" to join Winterbash!
 
@Unihedro ahh thanks bro :)
 
I'm not your bro, but eh.
 
I have 2
 
@Unihedro Congrats
 
12:50 PM
I have gloves and a warm scarf.
 
I have a computer, internet access, and enough rep on Stack Overflow to join a chat room... Oh wait...
 
Bitches I got a hat
 
I don't :(
 
Is there a list of the hidden hats anywhere?
 
@JustSteveKing Nope, denied
@Meredith Yep.
 
12:51 PM
Where?
 
no hat is hidden, some are just secret
 
@dystroy ಠಿ_ಠ
 
@Unihedro Nah its on my head :)
 
@Meredith Meta
@JustSteveKing Nope, denied
 
Chauvinists, I've got thermal socks.
 
12:52 PM
@dystroy That's what I meant
 
@Unihedro it shows up n my profile :'(
 
@JustSteveKing Nope, denied
 
@Unihedro I may be denied a hat, but I wasn't denied your mum ;)
 
230
Q: Winter Bash 2014 Secret Hats

KevinSo far, I've unlocked one of the secret hats. I'm wondering what other secret hats are out there and how to earn them?

For anyone else wondering
 
^^ Spoilers alert
I am not responsible for pointing out of the presence of spoilers and hence causing your curiosity to click in and learn of the secret hats and lose all the fun.
 
12:57 PM
The problem is that my avatar is already wearing a hat to begin with
 
Nor of the read for illegal, unauthenticated, or terrible uses that causes harm or psychological side effects; Consider my spoiler alert warning at your own risk. Your mileage may vary; I'm not sure; Local laws apply. This disclaimer may only be held true under the circumstance that it is made for good cause. I am not responsible for any harm caused by reading this statement, the above statement, or the spoiler alert statement.
@Meredith hatception
 
I miss the good hats of the past years, like getting to the reputation cap or giving 10 good answers. Now it's mostly stupid things like editing 5 old questions...
 
@dystroy and using the iOS app.
I don't even have an apple device.
-1 unfair hat
 
My phone is broken so I can't even get the android one
 
use bluestacks
 
12:59 PM
well, it's less unfair than giving a hat to people randomly downvoting, editing then upvoting... that messes with SO ^^
 

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