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8:02 AM
gitg is useful when I need to.. uhm.. laugh.
> Add base fines
hahaaha
 
@AwalGarg: Do you realize you're going to need more key-presses to type sudo apt-get install than you need mouse clicks to install something?
Basically, that's a very lousy argument in favor of terminal
Oh, and I'm pretty darn sure that 95% of the software available for windows can't be obtained with apt-get. So there's that.
 
no, i can press tabs and the terminal will complete the command for me
and then why would i need windows software on linux machine
linux has its own repository and the softwares are mostly virus free, win-win
!!/s/win-win/linux-linux/g
 
@argentum47 That didn't make much sense. Use the !!/help command to learn more.
 
Let me rephrase that
 
8:09 AM
I'm pretty darn sure that 95% of the software available for windows doesn't have a linux equivalent that can be obtained with apt-get.
A big example: games
 
yeah, gaming is a drawback . its a point.
 
And is there even photoshop for linux?
 
gimp is fine
 
Does adobe even dev for linux?
 
8:10 AM
Gimp is okay
But it doesn't feature everything PS have
 
sorry; was afk.
 
they aren't qualified. i mean adobe photoshop crack sortof releases before the software is available for download.

but photoshop is way powerful than gimp. specially with 3d and mercurial engine, animation etc.
 
@Cerbrus My point is, you can have a lot of things on your screen, look through them, and select. Or just have a blank screen, type what you want, and have it. I would prefer the latter.
 
Opening Notepad++ in windows: [Windows key] + note + [return]
 
@Cerbrus Yeah, most Linux Distros are mature enough and don't need extra softwares. They are pretty powerful in themselves.
 
8:13 AM
"Extra softwares"?
 
Ubuntu comes feature packed out of the box.
There is not much (pretty much no extra thing) you need to install additionally.
 
I doubt it has photo editing software installed that's similar to Photoshop
 
@AwalGarg hi bro. stackoverflow.com/questions/26625683/… i don't understand what the client wants. these days, i can't even understand english. i have hard time communicating with people
 
Or video editing software
Programming tools
 
@Cerbrus Yeah right, your Windows box comes with those for free, hm?
 
8:15 AM
All that kind of software shouldn't come with an OS / distro
 
@Cerbrus GEdit is far more powerful than your notepad
 
notepad sucks
 
@Cerbrus Then your point is pointless.
 
@AwalGarg: You're missing my point
completely
You said it was easy to start an application in linux
I countered with an example how easy it is in windows
 
I think you are saying that the software availability is lower for the Linux platform, right?
 
8:16 AM
In both OS's, it's trivial
Also that
Yes
I'm certain of that
 
@Cerbrus meh, I launch sublime with Super+1.
 
Good for you
 
i can press suTab nanTab fileTab Enter . opens the file in a editor
 
Hi there, I have a little JS problem... I want to set style of element, but it doesn't work.
HTML: <div id="text1">Down</div>
JS: document.getElementById("text1").style.backgroundColor = "yellow"
...why this JS doesn't work?
 
@Cerbrus I agree that Adobe does not dev for Linux, but dude, I bet you if we contnue to discuss that in deep, you will lose. Wanna try?
 
8:18 AM
@AwalGarg: Games
Name one major release in the past 2 years that released for linux
Just one
 
@Cerbrus Hold on, you said photo and video editing softwares... you don't wanna discuss that?
@Cerbrus I don't play games much, but I would still agree that Linux will lose their.
 
Sure, but there isn't a piece of that software that ain't available for windows, too.
 
linux can give you wine
:D
 
I am back
 
@argentum47 Windows can whine ;-)
 
8:19 AM
:D
 
@Cerbrus Lemme tell you something, those big video production people don't use Windows. They either use linux, or mac (preferably the latter)
 
TF2..
 
Mac's where it's at in the visual world, yea
@erikroyall: That game is at least 10 years old, and only got released for linux, like, 3 years ago?
 
Windows stands absolutely no where other than old-school boxes and personal PCs (and the latter is gonna change with time).
 
Mac :( . if i marry (if) a foreigner i will ask for a mac as dowry XD
 
8:21 AM
Other os's still have a long way to go
 
LOL
 
windows has like 80% of the market share.
 
But only on desktops
 
85-90%
 
not on mobiles
 
8:22 AM
@Cerbrus no. You know nothing about the Graphics Designing world. For video editing, After Effects (Adobe's premier software) is not much used. Node based editors like Nuke are used more and their development is geared towards linux because they perform better on Linux.
 
So far for "Windows stands absolutely no where"
 
"other than old-school boxes and personal PCs (and the latter is gonna change with time)."
 
Oh, and you're the expert, I assume?
 
@Cerbrus indeed, I am.
 
but its hybrid kernel sucks. only because intel intelligent series makes it usable. it had windows on AMD with windows 8. -_- . my bad
 
8:23 AM
Personal PC's is a pretty damn large part of the market
 
@Cerbrus That is changing, and will continue to change with time.
 
i think because laptop keyboards sortof reduces the typing the speed a little i have to keep an eye on not to touch the touchpad
 
Sure, but it's gonna take a heck of a lot of time before windows drops below 50%
 
i don't think it will. i mean there are lot less developers than we think
 
And even longer before linux reaches a 10% global market share, I'd argue
 
8:25 AM
Also @Cerbrus the mobile market is dominating now over PCs, where Android (based of Linux kernel) dominates clearly, and that is NOT going to change no matter what Windows and Apple guys do.
 
Let's not compare apples and pears here
We're not talking about the mobile market
 
linux's main drawback is it's user interface. Not much appealing when compared to windows. But has a strong kernel that supports development.
 
I'm well aware of the massive share android has
 
@Cerbrus Yeah, that is what devs said when IE reigned.
 
What?
 
8:27 AM
2 mins ago, by Cerbrus
Sure, but it's gonna take a heck of a lot of time before windows drops below 50%
 
How much time would you wage that to take, then?
 
No idea, I can't predict that.
 
Just a guess
5 years? 10? 20?
 
The problem with linux is that it's not accessible at all. You pretty much need to be a "computer nerd" to install it in the first place.
 
8:29 AM
2015 would come with ubuntu phones which would cause quite a lot of buzz about ubuntu in the personal device market... so I guess 5-7 years would be good enough.
@Cerbrus You live in 1990s dude.
 
Missing my point again
 
in ubuntu u press the WinKey and click on the Circular kindof thing and it almost looks like the windows 8 main screen. except for the metro. and that had long before windows 8 came up with that design
 
Also, I am from the 1990's. I wouldn't know how to install a 1995 version of linux
 
Linux is, now, more accessible than Windows in many cases (but not all).
 
Is it as easy as plopping a cd in your disk drive and clicking "next"?
 
8:31 AM
@Cerbrus Even easier.
 
Enlighten me
 
Insert the disk. No need to click the next thing.
 
easier != bette\r
 
So, it just installs linux when you boot with the disk inserted?
 
damn
 
8:32 AM
@erikroyall last snapshot looks cool, transparent terminal. Seeing that for first time.
Though I would say it never competes with Windows 8 User interface for desktop.
 
just landed over Linus Tarvolds' GitHub github.com/torvalds
 
@udaysagar Windows 8 UI????????????????
 
user interface
 
@Cerbrus no. No need to install. You insert the disk and you go to the GUI straightway. You can install it if you want. That is when you have to click the next button. Otherwise, you can live boot in a full fledged operating system running on your ram, smoother than an installed version of Windows.
 
well i agree that no one can re-define "click me" more than windows does. i mean show a dumb windows user with a laptop the virtual keyboard and for the next 4 days he actually uses it. :( . (my room mate)
 
8:33 AM
@udaysagar I know what that means. But you said it can never compete with Windows 8's UI..
 
-.-
 
No need to install drivers, no crap. Everything would work out of the box.
 
yes
 
The last time I had to manually install drivers is.... Win XP?
 
8:34 AM
but UI has to improved. i agree.
 
And I'm talking about OS installation here
 
yes, it's win xp that always asks for drivers
 
@udaysagar It's going away, though, the UI.
 
ok @erikroyall
 
@Cerbrus Yes, Ubuntu is easier to install than Windows.
 
8:35 AM
just running from a disk is nice and everything, but you're going to need to allocade hard drive space for your files
 
@Cerbrus Yes, you need to.
 
but u cannot scp and ssh in windows. its PIA . i can log in remotely with ssh and shutdown the pc.
Linux made me prankstar
 
The problem with most people advocating Windows and Mac over Linux is that they all don't know the modern and cool Linux.
 
Any way, if ubuntu is that easy to install / use, why doesn't it (optionally) come with new PC's?
 
Ubuntu shuts down in like 2s.
 
8:36 AM
That's linux's problem, actually
 
@Cerbrus It is slowly taking over.
 
it does come with new pc
 
Slowly, sure
Very
 
Many HP and Dell laptops come with Ubuntu.
 
Lemme have a look
 
8:37 AM
Very few.
 
Dell 14R Vostro
 
Also, they ship with Windows because of the commercial POV.
 
Dell doesn'; t even offer "linux" as OS
Just win 7 or 8.1
 
Dell XPS 13 dell.com/us/business/p/xps-13-linux/pd (1080p, 256GB SSD, i7, 13.3 inch, 8GB RAM)
 
8:38 AM
@Cerbrus wrong
 
Ah, there, in the "business PC's section"
FreeDOS and Linux
 
2 linux devices versus 220 windows devices
there
Just a small difference
 
2 'Good' linux devices, over 220 'okay-ish' windows devices.
 
Viruses..
!!afk
 
8:44 AM
thats because of the windows doesnot have e repo like ubuntu. ppl dwld shit from everywhere which comes with builtin *wares (mal, spam, ad etc)
 
I still remember my computer class, guess it's my class 2 or 3, where we played image matching game hidden under squares that ran from floppy. Think the OS used is win 95
 
i never played anything other the nfs mw :(
 
The security thing about Windows is improving gradually, I hope it gets better. But it is far far away from the level at which distros like Ubuntu are present.
 
:-)
 
good day y'all
 
8:52 AM
Greetings from the internet
 
i feel you are in fact not the internet though oh @Psychemaster
 
I didn't say I was the internet
Merely that I am from it.
 
but simply using it as a vessel for your greetings
 
o.O
 
@Psychemaster You call yourself Psyche-master, but have you controlled any mind/soul/spirit or anything?
 
8:55 AM
he could simply be the master of psyching people up to do well
rather than actually making them do it
 
Only my own, sadly =(
And even that control is tenuous at best.
 
Then @Psychemaster is not Psychemaster
:P
 
@AwalGarg dont double ping
 
@DrogoNevets does it really double ping? Double ping me once...
!!tell AwalGarg "@AwalGarg"
 
@AwalGarg That didn't make much sense. Maybe you meant: tell
@AwalGarg Command "@awalgarg" does not exist. (note that /tell works on commands, it's not an echo.)
 
8:58 AM
meh it pings only once
 
I could have told you that
 
;p
 
@AwalGarg still its bad form and should not be done
 
@DrogoNevets knows best.
Listen to @DrogoNevets
 
9:01 AM
@DrogoNevets kk. Wud take care.
 
Otherwise, @DrogoNevets might get angry ;-)
Couldn't resist, sorry, DrogoNevets
 
@Cerbrus meh, life is too short to get angry, i might get grumpy though and stamp my feet
 
Very intimidating!
 
@DrogoNevets no don't do that. It would not feel good :P
 
lol, im ex army, we do our fair share of stamping, except we call it square bashing
 
vs7
9:19 AM
How can I add special characters in mobile keyboard like " .com "?Anbody there??
 
wut
 
vs7
I want to add special characters in mobile keyboard
 
@vs7 How is that a JavaScript question?
 
vs7
is it possible by javascript
?
 
@vs7 Is your mobile keyboard written in JavaScript?
(Hint: Probably not)
 
9:22 AM
inb4 normal mobile user and not developing on it
 
vs7
@SecondRikudo no
 
Then, it isn't a JavaScript question
Unless the keyboard documentation somehow says you can do it with JavaScript
In which case, you should, you know, read the keyboard documentation
 
vs7
can we overwrite in some way with javascript?
 
Not likely
 
@vs7: If your keyboard is opened by clicking on an input, make the input's type: url
<input type="url" />
 
9:46 AM
Guys if I've omitted or gave inaccurate details here feel free to edit/tell me about it.
 
HAI
 
Let's see
Sipster!
Hai
 
harro
If what I said offended you yesterday, sorry btw
I'm not insensitive I was just being honest cos internet.
 
I'd call that blunt, instead of honest
Sure, I know what you meant
 
It was blunt, poorly worded.
 
9:50 AM
I understand your intentions with what you said
No hard feelings
 
@SecondRikudo You can better explain the the first point of the specific answers part.
 
^_^
 
@Cerbrus DO YOU HAVE NO DAMN HARD FEELINGS CERBRUS??? :P
 
Oh I have plenty of "hard"feelings
 
9:51 AM
Jus gonna watch that for a while. :D
 
!!rekt
 
stahp
 
HAMMAHTIME!
 
Man
That ruined her whole day.
 
9:52 AM
That gif doesn't get old xD
 
I wonder if that ruined his career?
That's gotta be lawsuit-able in the US
 
Yea
Can't find any info about it
 
Work hosting a "most disturbing pumpkin" competition
I didn't enter because if I did then I'd get fired.
Do some weird tentacle hentai, that's disturbing. And disturbingly appropriate ..
 
stackoverflow.com/a/26671775/3459110 10k user gives this answer... wow!
 
@Sippy: Fired, but victorious
 
9:56 AM
Coming from the js room ? I went to that room to get JS help and that room is notorious for not discussing JS related issues but to clown around and joke all day long. — JonH 19 hours ago
Who is this guy?
 
@Cerbrus That's a fantastic way to look at it :D
Next interview: "So you were fired from your last job. Can you explain why?"
That question would either make me extremely popular or end the interview. Hahaha
 
Sounds like an acceptable risk
 
@Zirak some truthful person.
 
@Zirak I can't say he's wrong, but he isn't right.
 
anyone know what ${path} is in httpd.conf for apache?
 
9:59 AM
If people come here looking for JS help they get JS help.
 
He is absolutely correct, IMO... but halfway.
 
@SuperUberDuper As in what does it do?
 
The reply from @SterlingArcher is right though - this place would be boring as all hell if Javascript was the only thing ever discussed
 
yeah, not sure where it is set
 
@AwalGarg He removed it?
 
9:59 AM
${path}
 

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