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1:01 PM
@Sippy Can't you just move your ValidationFor? Or am I missing something?
 
@Cerbrus pinned your point in there since that is what I have been saying for all the time
 
@Kippie move where?
It's where it should be :(
 
@PatsyIssa I do, but with people who have bothered to actually learn about the topic rather than just debate it and assume they can throw 3000 years of philosophical progression out of the window.
 
Then what's the problem?
 
the problem is it creates an element that's bound to the element it validates
 
1:02 PM
Correct.
 
I hate how my messages time out on this chat :@
The hidden field isn't rendered in the right place on the page
 
To me, this isn't very clear: "I'd like to display the message itself on the manager-control element." What exactly are you trying to achieve? Where, and how, should the validation message be shown?
 
It's way off to the left somewhere.
Right.
 
Well, a hidden field shouldn't be rendered in the first place. So why would that matter? It's the validationmessage's position that matters, and you're free to place that wherever you want, as long as it's inside your form
 
hello
 
1:04 PM
@Kippie The validation message in MVC is rendered alongside the element it validates.
I want to render it alongside a different element.
But still validate the original element.
 
No it's not. The validation message is rendered where you place your ValidationMessageFor.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum I am at a point where I no longer bother, as long as someone's beliefs don't affect others he/she are free to do whatever he/she wants
 
hidden field doesn't render in the right place on the page.
 
It is not possible to clap slow enough for PHP: https://eval.in/108854
 
@PatsyIssa that is true regardless. Everyone is free to their own creed.
 
1:05 PM
wat.... someone explain this
 
@Sippy how can you know ? Its hidden !
 
The problem is creed dictates things in everyday life.
 
@jAndy Because I can see where the validation message is.
 
@NickDugger You know, I really dislike having my phone pinged for nothing. Especially for something like that.
 
its hidden !
 
1:05 PM
I've had enough of you. The next time I will kick you three times in a row. How's that sound?
 
@KendallFrey Numeric comparison
 
@Kippie I'm pretty sure you're wrong, and I'm gonna show you.
 
You're welcome
 
@SecondRikudo wat
 
@KendallFrey 0eXXXXXX
Where XXX are all digits
 
Evening!
 
I don't need to be interrupted from a weekend with my family to be called an arse.
I keep my phone on for work stuff, not for this.
 
@Kippie That thing way off at the top left, that's the validation message which is inside the div that contains the manager control.
 
@copy waaaaat thaaaaa shiiiiiiit
 
Simple question: what's the best way to cache dynamic content in a NodeJS app?
 
1:07 PM
fuck you php
 
@IonicăBizău store it in a variable?
 
@IonicăBizău o/
 
I mean to cache dynamic content in HTTP responses.
 
red is white
 
@jAndy The validation message isn't hidden ...
 
1:08 PM
@IonicăBizău Store in a variable with higher scope...
 
The hidden field it validates is.
 
So, in php, md5('240610708') == md5('QNKCDZO')
Wat
 
its hidden you can't see anything for gods sake !!
 
@Cerbrus Seriously?
 
@SecondRikudo What do you mean?
 
1:08 PM
@Sippy Do you see anything with this picture?
 
I'm just kidding.. trying to learn arguing :P
 
@Cerbrus Lol
 
@Sippy you validate a hidden field? WHY?
 
@IonicăBizău Store whatever content you want to cache in a variable outside the scope of this request
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum You mentioned Philosophy courses earlier. Any online ones you'd recommend?
 
1:08 PM
This way every request has access to it.
 
@SecondRikudo I know there is the 304 (Not Modified) response that takes the content from browser cache. But that works fine for files.
 
Because I need to
 
@SomeGuy online? not that I know of in English.
 
I could refactor the entire thing and hardcode it all
But that's a lot of effort.
 
Yeap
What's going on there
 
1:10 PM
@BenjaminGruenbaum Any books in English?
 
@jAndy I can't tell if you're trolling. You can tell validate not to ignore hidden fields.
 
full troll mode
 
Helpful.
Lol
 
@SomeGuy well, an easy first read that's also a novel (don't start with Greek classic philosophers) would be "Zen and The Art of Motorcycle Maintenance", it's not really a philosophy book but I don't recommend you start with a text book.
 
@AwalGarg The reason is because the value that needs to be sent isn't exactly human friendly.
 
1:11 PM
@SomeGuy If you want actual articles, Kuhn's paradigm shift book is also a pretty easy read
 
!!afk
 
But I can do a representation to the user that is.
So in the select handler I just throw the value in a hidden field and submit from there because it's easier.
 
@SomeGuy I recommend Leo Babauta's books.
 
Otherwise I have to display this dirty string to the user and I'd rather not.
 
This: @SomeGuy
The Structure of Scientific Revolutions is a 1962 book about the history of science by Thomas S. Kuhn. Its publication was a landmark event in the history, philosophy, and sociology of scientific knowledge and triggered an ongoing worldwide assessment and reaction in—and beyond—those scholarly communities. Kuhn challenged the then prevailing view of progress in "normal science." Normal scientific progress was viewed as "development-by-accumulation" of accepted facts and theories. Kuhn argued for an episodic model in which periods of such conceptual continuity in normal science were interrupted...
It's a pretty easy read.
 
1:12 PM
!!s/string/string-tanga/
why is this disabled, for real
 
@Sippy css ftw
 
@AwalGarg ?
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum I've read some like The Republic and Sophie's World. Figured I'd take the opportunity to grow my reading list
 
oooooooh
md5('240610708') == md5('QNKCDZO')
 
@SomeGuy that's always good :) good luck.
 
1:13 PM
Because == does type conversion
 
@Cerbrus ez, they're both 0
 
I think I've read half of Zen and the art too based on Ryan Kinal's recommendation
 
because of 0e... :P I followed that discussion in the C++ room :P
 
@Cerbrus You realise MD5 hashes aren't unique right?
 
this is actually the worst friday
 
1:14 PM
@Sippy they produce different hashes
 
i didnot bring my pn drive
 
oh my gosh its friday
where is rebecca
 
@Sippy they are different for these two strings
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum I shutup now
 
!!friday
 
1:14 PM
!!> '0e123495' == 0
 
Apparently (int) "someString" == 0
 
oh whoops, my bad.
 
@Sippy reposition the validation message?
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum true
 
1:15 PM
@Cerbrus no, that's not it, where did you read about this?
 
@AwalGarg That's one option, how?
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum Are you on GoodReads?
 
I read Crime and Punishment recently and it was incredible
 
@Cerbrus It's because of scientific notation
 
1:16 PM
@BenjaminGruenbaum: var_dump((int) "someString");
 
Well, not sure I enjoy a book about redemption all that much, but the writing was great
 
!!tell Sippy mdn css
 
@Cerbrus where is it being discussed? We already talked about it in the c++ room
 
1:17 PM
Just me messing around a bit
I'm not in C++
 
@AwalGarg Irrelevant
 
@Cerbrus with the exact same hash values?
 
Nah, I'm just totally assuming something, apparently xD
 
@Sippy you can absolutely position that validation message and move it around where ever you want... tip:make a fiddle and we can run the magic with it.
 
Nevermind me :P
 
1:20 PM
@AwalGarg Fiddle doesn't work with ASP.NET MVC controls :)
 
oh no i am doomed , railscast pro torrentz finishd downloading and i dn't have the pndrive. i has to wait till monday
 
@Sippy :( sorry can't help then ;p
 
@argentum47: I'd advice against discussing piracy, here.
 
look spreading knowledge and happiness is the ultimate moto of my life
 
my latest commit message "hopefully this will work"
 
1:22 PM
:D
XD
 
ill amend it if it works
 
@DrogoNevets Lol, saw a github commit yesterday that said "I think this will work?"
 
yea difference, thats a public repo, this is internal only
 
@AwalGarg You missed this. i.imgur.com/yCbfAqp.png
 
dammit, it didnt work
 
1:25 PM
I seem to have a google inbox invite. Anyone interested?
 
github.com/mbostock/d3/blob/master/src/layout/pie.js#L26 <<<< if all your values are 0 it divides by 0, results in NaN sendAngles
 
@NickDugger yes please
 
@erikroyall ahh bhopal... that sweet place. Have a few relatives there. Meh not interested in such stupid people.
 
@DrogoNevets heads up, it's a terrible experience on the desktop, lol. What's your email address?
 
too much indian
only if i had a girl, my ruby-on-rails room would have flourished
 
1:28 PM
I still have another google inbox invite. Not sure how many I get, it doesn't say.
2 left, I guess
 
yeaaaahhhh.. 16 test passed.
now i can PIR (piss in rest)
 
If there are no takers, I'll just give them to my coworkers
 
@NickDugger I wouldn't mind one ^^
 
What's your email?
 
my name @ gmail
 
1:30 PM
type it out
 
patsy issa
@ gmail . com
 
type out the whole thing...
stop being paranoid
 
you wouldn't mind what
 
fine :P
 
sent
 
1:31 PM
awesome :D cheers man
 
1 google inbox invite left!
 
:))
 
and it only works in chrome!
 
google inbox?
 
1:32 PM
yea
on desktop that is
 
@NickDugger I'd like one.
 
@erikroyall what's your email address?
 
I might well have a couple in abit
 
@DrogoNevets it took about a week for google to give me invites
 
@NickDugger erikroyall@gmail.com
 
1:34 PM
Sent. I have no more invites left.
 
Thanks :)
 
@NickDugger A week after singing up you get invites?
I ll share mine with the room when I get them
 
argentum47@gmail.com
 
@PatsyIssa I dunno how long it takes. It might be different per account.
 
Wanna see my best answer ever?
 
1:35 PM
Cool thanks again ^^
 
@AwalGarg You were half right.
 
@Sippy You understood just half.
 
@AwalGarg Mm, no.
 
lol ok
@Sippy feel free to upvote any of my answers to show gratitude :D
 
1:36 PM
I didn't change the position of the validation message itself, I bound it to an input, made the input disappear, placed it behind the element I wanted it to show on
And then messed with CSS
So half right. :D
 
!!nudge 80
 
@towc Nudge #1 registered.
 
!!nudge -1
 
@argentum47 Nudge #2 registered.
 
also, hi all
 
1:36 PM
@argentum47 nudge
 
@NickDugger so my phone says I have 2 somethings (badge) how do i find out what they are>?
 
that was fast
 
@AwalGarg There you go, ya repwhore
:DDD
 
@Sippy hehe
 
Hellaw everyone :D
 
1:37 PM
@Phoenìx Welcome to the JavaScript chat! Please review the room pseudo-rules. Please don't ask if you can ask or if anyone's around; just ask your question, and if anyone's free and interested they'll help.
 
anyone saw rikudo?
 
he has transported his body
 
@Phoenìx Hai \o
 
@AwalGarg I can call him, why?
 
for bounty
 
1:39 PM
@BenjaminGruenbaum nthng special. Don't disturb him.
 
windows is really utter piece of crap
 
yeeeeaaayyy
 
@darkyen00 let us pin that
 
@darkyen00: what has winblows done this time?
 
1:40 PM
@darkyen00 when you write an OS I'm sure you'll do a better job.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum i won't.
 
but honestly this is unbearable pita
dropbox won't start, no logs nothing -_-
so does chrome --- i am using IE 11 -_-
 
Don't blame windows
 
user2620028
im getting ready to put windows on my new laptop lol
 
1:40 PM
blame dropbox
 
did you kick it?
 
@Cerbrus blame google chrome ?
 
s/dropbox/Canada/
 
Also that :P
 
blame chrome, dropbox
 
1:41 PM
and almost 50% of the software which aren't working after a re-boot ?
 
sometimes thing need a kickstart
 
!!youtube blame canada
 
even microsoft office ain't working
they all just silently die
 
Hehe
 
1:41 PM
tried by changing compatibility?
 
blame yourself now.
 
user2620028
darkyen would you like a technical person to help you with your digital computer?
 
drop windows, not dropbox
 
@darkyen00: it seems like your PC is actually pretty FOOBAR now
 
@darkyen00 that sounds like a bug in Chrome and Dropbox.
 
1:42 PM
Virus? Hardware issue?
@BenjaminGruenbaum: and in office
@HatterisMad: "Digital computer"? Are there still analog computers out there?
 
by by sweet hearts. my sweet your heart
 
So do a system restore.
 
@argentum47 wtf?
 
Or at very least a virus scan
 
user2620028
@Cerbrus yes? in museums i imagine.
 
1:45 PM
or just switch to a sane OS
 
@AwalGarg: Stop it.
 
lol stop what?
 
Unless you can come up with some very good facts about windows being a piece of shit
Stop just calling it crap
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum and microsoft office too ?
the only 3 software working right now is
 
@Cerbrus I already did.
 
1:47 PM
damm people fiddling with my grunt files!!!!!
 
uTorrent, Avast, Firefox Aurora
 
No, you didn't. You're just repeatedly stating your opinion of windows
 
Don't bother, Cerbrus. He does the exact same thing with jQuery
 
And this morning, you were making some pretty mediocre statements on how Linux isn't "bad". But saying "Linux ain't bad" doesn't make Windows terrible
Ugh
 
Windows is awesome
 
1:49 PM
@Loktar +1
 
@Cerbrus that wasn't me
 
Linux is awesome as well
but I prefer Windows for day to day stuff
 
Everything is awesome!
 
I am awesome!
 
That's simply not true, Ryan.
 
1:50 PM
@RyanKinal well except Mac
 
heh
> JSON payload
 
Ebola isn't awesome.
 
@RyanKinal Everything is cool when you're part of the team!
 
lol
 
That was you, actually.
 
1:50 PM
@Kippie well Ebola is one big team
so everything is cool!
 
@Kippie But the fact that people are actively fighting and treating Ebola is TOTALLY AWESOME!
 
Well, if you look at it that way, I guess everything IS awesome!
 
\o/ :-D
 
Actually, ebola is pretty darn impressive
It's a pain in the ass
But damn, it's effective
 
Ebola is awesome at being a virus!
 
1:51 PM
It could be better though!
I hope it stays motivated
 
Always room for improvement
 
never settle
 
lol
 
Yeah, it would be totally awesome if it became airborne
 
I mean... TOO SOON
:-P
 
1:52 PM
Yea, too soon xD
 
lol
 
Wtfh
windows had some core service disabled o_o
 
You can't just force ebola to be airborne, it has to decide that for itself.
 
how on earth does that happen
 
Virus
 
1:53 PM
 
haha
 
I'm telling you, scan.
 
lol
 
avast says its clean
 
avg
?
 
1:53 PM
Write your own antivirus.
 
@darkyen00 you disabled it.
 
Malwarebytes?
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum i didnt :-/
all i did was re-boot
 
Windows System Sweeper in boot mode FTW
 
you downloaded wares from torrents and then installed them
 
1:53 PM
free download from microsoft site
 
no
all i use uTorrent for is downloading movies
 
s/res/rez/
 
shame on you
 
Heh
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum what ? why ?
 
1:54 PM
And movies are safe
Yearight
 
stealing movies
 
I only downloaded like one.
 
is it pronounced u-torrent or mu-torrent?
 
Seriously though, scan with avg and malwarebytes too.
 
well true :-( i feel sad
@Cerbrus okay installing malbytes
 
1:54 PM
> I downloaded only one virus... I didn't do anything wrong :(
 
You wouldn't download ebola!
Don't pirate viruses.
 
@AwalGarg i didn't -_-
 
Man. If ebola became downloadable... we'd be screwed.
 
I scan everything i download.
 
I would, I'd let malwarebytes have a go at it
Then CCLeaner
 
1:56 PM
@darkyen00 use microsoft security essentials/system sweeper if you really want to stay happy.
 
And if it were still struggling, I'd unleash... wait for it...
 
Windows Defender. That's all you need.
 
Windows Defender!
:Highfives @Kippie:
 
i feel like ebola would be one of those viruses that the antivirus has to just lock in a file and can't delete
 
@eazimmerman: There is no such virus
Everything can be deleted
 
1:56 PM
those guys at microsoft know what they made, and they know how to cure it. So use what they made for curing what they made.
 
@Cerbrus i've had viruses back in the day that could only be quarantined and couldn't be removed
 
Because Microsoft also builds your display drivers...
 
my computer had a lot of e-stds
 
Wth did you do to your computer, then?
 
all thoses packets it was sharing
i reformatted every month
 
1:58 PM
Didn't your parents ever tell you to use SSL?
 
this was before ssl
 
Always practice safe packet sharing!
 
Always make sure you practice safety when browsing.
 
know your partner before you connect
 
When it comes down to it, is there really a big difference between Windows and a virus? Really?
 
1:59 PM
^
 
Like DNA, I'm sure most instructions found in a virus could be found in windows code. :P
 
I've yet to find a virus that runs Assasins Creed
 

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