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8:00 PM
The French fighter aircraft that India is planning to buy “will be swatted like mosquitos in an August night,” says Russian Ambassador to India Alexander Kadakin. The Ambassador believes that the PLA Air Force’s Su-27 is a far superior fighter
 
If canucks fucked kiwis, I'm pretty sure that would be the most chill people group ever
 
@Loktar its funny though
 
@phenomnomnominal haha
 
china still relies on russia and america for airforce.
 
!!s/relies on/hacks/
 
8:00 PM
@SomeKittens china still hacks russia and america for airforce. (source)
 
@KendallFrey No worries mate. I'll get right on it.
 
Or perhaps in it
 
@darkyen00 China doesn't rely on us
 
china could just close its borders and we'd all be fucked. Where would we get our clothing and electronics ?
the world relies on China
 
@Loktar then just russia ?
 
8:01 PM
@rlemon best buy
 
yeah, lol we don't sell military equipment to China screw that
 
> Russia, historically, has been a key strategic partner of India and the main supplier of weapon systems. But, in the last decade, India has increasingly looked towards Israel and US to meet its defence requirements. The shift, no doubt, has peeved Russia.
 
they steal it
 
@Loktar correction, they buy one.
 
haha
 
8:01 PM
then they somehow make their own which is 99% the same
 
haha
 
@rlemon in fairness not really
not when it comes to military equipment
 
> He cited the BrahMos Missile, a supersonic cruise missile jointly developed and produced by India and Russia, the Sukhoi-30MKi that is now being licensed and produced in India, and the Kudankulam Nuclear Power Plant as examples of critical technology transferred by Russia to India.
 
@Loktar nahh, it isn't often that close to the same
 
they have 1 carrier.. which is recommisioned
 
8:02 PM
@rlemon electronics and clothes last longer than a market economy with no money. The stock market would collapse, but theirs would collapse worse
 
@Loktar i think our nuclear super-power was russia being generous
 
@Loktar well ofc I'm talking more broadly
 
@Loktar They hack us on a regular basis for our tech
 
I see no point in this stupidity
 
@SomeKittens I'm being hacked right now
 
8:03 PM
why cant we all humans live together and help each other ?
 
@SomeKittens yeah but so far they have been terrible at implementation
 
Talking about hacking, have you guys seen the yubikey?
 
I need another person on this keyboard
 
@SomeKittens my company, they have been trying to rip off our tech for a while now
 
@Loktar Yep, good thing there
 
8:03 PM
dev-tools question: how to monitor when does value of a primitive variable changes?
 
we've had to get creative with protecting our hardware / software
 
@rlemon are you positive ?
 
@rlemon seriously look at yubikey.
 
yeah its lame, its a real issue definitely
 
this could be an outbreaking news
China is now hacking Canada for copying stuff... soon we will have an invasion of Asian bobble heads.
 
8:04 PM
@FlorianMargaine we use a proprietary dongle they have yet to be able to duplicate
 
@darkyen00 last I checked, over 48 hours a Chinese IP tried to log onto my server something like 1800 times.
 
Yubikey is entirely built on open source technologies. Namely, openid.
 
@rlemon dear lord.
 
get a lot of traffic from Russia as well.
 
8:05 PM
!!google yubikey
 
am stunned....
 
s/un/o/
 
@KendallFrey i am always stoned.
The day Stan Lee dies. Internet will have the biggest flood ever.
 
I like Stan Lee but Marvel has been getting ridiculous imo
making changes just to make them.
#ohmarvelyousoedgy
 
8:14 PM
!!s/lous/lousy awesome/
 
@SomeKittens I like Stan Lee but Marvel has been getting ridiculousy awesome imo (source)
 
Awesome?
 
MY RIFT FINALLY SHIPPED
should be here tomorrow
WOO
 
@SomeKittens nice!
 
Scrotes
@SomeKittens from tomorrow all your coding has to take place in VR
 
8:15 PM
ew
 
when is consumer release ready...
i wan it
 
LOL good luck with that
with coding in the rift
resolution still isn't quite there yet
 
@Loktar just really big fonts?
 
haha yea
you have a rift right @phenomnomnominal?
 
"coding in the rift" sounds like a great name for a hackathon
 
8:16 PM
@Loktar tried the three.js coding?
 
I thought you did or used one for some reason
@FlorianMargaine nah not yet
 
no :(
SOmeone had one at work, I had a play
 
@BartekBanachewicz can you guide me on how to make a programmable display which can be small enough to wear as a pendant ?
even a cube of 7 segment displays would do.
 
@FlorianMargaine I need to try it.. there is only one problem
 
@KendallFrey theme song === Rolling In the Deep, but you know
 
8:18 PM
the rift always takes a bit of setting up
need to put it on, mess with my desktop settings
so I've been lazy lately lol
 
That ShadowWizard guy is a bit of a prick meta.stackexchange.com/questions/242358/…
 
> Imgur announce to drop the legacy gif format
the hell does that mean?
They can't just forget gifs
 
@KendallFrey Nah, instead they pretended to play adult, and decided to take all gifs hitting their servers, and convert them to MP4's, and then display muted videos in place of gif images.
 
I like the new gif format
and there are 10mb standard gifs that exist
not sure whats up with that guy
 
I'd like gifv if it was actually a new format instead of literally just an mp4...
 
8:25 PM
I'm confused by imgur
 
Is the image gif format or MP4 format?
If it's MP4 format, doesn't that ruin compatibility with something?
I can't test because imgur is fucked except for the stack subimgur
 
gifs now get converted to mp4 on their servers
 
who cares about their server
I'm a client
 
your mum is my client
 
8:29 PM
I'm your mum's client
 
it gets served as an mp4 as well. Not sure how this is confusing
 
@darkyen00 I agree
he is a troll
 
I had no idea you could put mp4 in an <img>
 
facepalm
 
8:31 PM
Wait, shouldn't a mute mp4 be an mp1? because 4-3 you know
 
We should just ban gifs at all, problem solved
 
@copy honestly thats a better solution
I mean allowing gifs but not gifv's is dumb, just unbox them all
 
Thanks room
 
@Loktar +++
 
@SecondRikudo you should look at the comments O.o
 
8:34 PM
I am
 
> I don't like dem dang ol vidya's in muh chat
 
Reminds me of my Emmet suggestion
 
> too much like facebook
 
FOR THE SAKE OF SATAN.. GIFV IS YOUR GOD DAMN GIF WITH A SMALLER FOOTPRINT AND NOT YOUR SCREAMING FRIENDS ON FACEBOOK ... — Abhishek 2 mins ago
 
His comparison of gifv to autoplaying videos in his facebook feed baffles me. I don't think he understands what gifv is even about.
 
8:37 PM
@NickDugger yeah he clearly doesn't
 
@Abhishek and you're rude. Flagged both your comments. — Shadow Wizard 1 min ago
 
@darkyen00 You need to calm down a little
 
@copy BUT YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND, THIS IS IMPORTANT
 
xkcd reference
 
@ShadowWizard clap clap you have won the internet for today... — Abhishek 1 min ago
@copy yeah calmed down.
 
8:39 PM
@darkyen00 you're really a kid
 
i am.
 
@Zirak lol
I support .Flamberdoodles
 
^ +1
 
@darkyen00 you wanna talk here or there?
 
Just checked for bandwidth. 7.5M gif as mp4 is ~900kb. — rlemon 15 secs ago
 
8:42 PM
haha I moreso just cared due to that shadow wizard guy being so against it.
 
@BartekBanachewicz there
 
.flamberMyDoodles
did I go too far?
@Gone as if troll is now an offensive term? What is this, the Westboro Baptist Church? — Nick Dugger 10 secs ago
 
@NickDugger yea
 
Damn. I thought it was clever.
 
calling the guy a troll was a bit too far as well imo :P
I mean too far for a technical request
 
8:45 PM
Right, I flagged this for a comment wipe, because it's clearly getting out of hand. @ShadowWizard I disagree with your view, but if you have any substantial arguments against this feature request, please formulate an answer instead of turning this topic into a chatroom. — Second Rikudo 12 secs ago
kthxbye
 
people got really heated over a file format lol
 
@Loktar Bikeshedding at its finest.
 
@Loktar I will still call him a troll.
 
GIFV IS THE FUTURE, M8
 
he reminds me of a user we had here who never read the manual
kept debating on the same thing, never tried.. i forgot the name. and we all called him a troll.
 
8:46 PM
@darkyen00 how many times are you going to bring that up, I already apologized!!
:P
 
... I just can't even right now. So odd...
@NickDugger yes "troll" is offensive term. — Shadow Wizard 18 secs ago
 
@Loktar lol
 
people take offense to being called a troll @NickDugger lol you didn't know that?
 
if you are using troll as a derogatory term, it is offensive to the person it is directed at.
 
Trolls are large and green and ugly.
Who wouldn't take offense?
 
8:47 PM
People are so sensitive, what the hell?
 
Its the new defacto "You don't agree with me you aren't providing a real argument"
 
!!s/troll/anything/
 
@SomeKittens Its the new defacto "You don't agree with me you aren't really providing a real argument just anythinging" (source)
 
boo
 
^ still hasn't updated in chat
 
8:48 PM
@rlemon oh thats nasty
 
@NickDugger Please stop feeding the flamewar.
 
@rlemon can you make tears of blood too ?
 
@SecondRikudo are you attempting to moderate my Main behaviour from a chatroom? Seriosuly?
 
<- in this ?
 
@NickDugger I'm asking nicely, because it's getting out of hand over there and you're the main cause.
 
8:49 PM
@SecondRikudo I think you need to read the whole thread over again.
 
I'm not a moderator here or on Meta Stack Exchange so I can't really tell you what to do.
 
I wouldn't peg him as the main cause.
that is a little pushing
 
It's pushing hard
 
he might be stirring the pot, but he didn't fill it and set it on high. that was Abi and Shadow
 
@rlemon I don't know, the whole thing went completely haywire since the term 'troll' started being thrown around
Oh, don't get me wrong, Shadow is definitely the main starter
And I told him in the comments to answer or GTFO
 
8:50 PM
I wasn't the first one to use "troll", either.
 
@NickDugger calm down
@SecondRikudo I did.
 
@SecondRikudo Yeah, people who are shown to be wrong tend to go for the semantics
 
@darkyen00 wat... nothing I put in the comments suggests that I'm heated
 
@NickDugger You aren't heated, but you're heating :P
 
@SecondRikudo you irk the hell out of me... always
 
8:52 PM
@NickDugger I take pride in that.
 
@SomeKittens might do it soon, thanks. — Shadow Wizard 53 secs ago
You catch more flies with honey
 
you both have a tendency to piss me off from time to time. so you can take solace in that.
 
but at least I don't like php
 
but you don't know why you don't like it
 
Simple really, this person thinks trolling is acceptable and even has their own chat room where they complain on meta.
 
8:53 PM
@rlemon That
 
vote to freeze chat as off topic please

 Wizards Den

Place for all wizards to share spells, words, and having fun w...
 
I have valid reasons, but touche'
 
All you need to do is enter, flag as mod on any message, and explain that it is off topic. Clearly the room is in violation of the chat standards for meta.SE
 
I think the abuse of this could be someone tricking and compiling a link to a much lengthier video masked gifv with audio thus causing inconvenience.
 
@TravisJ link to Meta.se chat standards?
 
8:54 PM
@darkyen00 It seems though that givf is a muted mp4, so no open-browser fun (ff, chromium, etc), or did I miss something and it's WebM?
 
@TravisJ Yeah, nope.
 
@Zirak it is .mp4 with .webm fallback
I think the abuse of this could be someone tricking and compiling a link to a much lengthier video masked gifv with audio thus causing inconvenience.
 
"This site is an extension of Meta Stack Exchange, so discussion should more or less revolve around the same topics you'd find at Meta Stack Exchange — but in an interactive, less strictly Q&A focused way. Do have fun, but please keep it professional and always be respectful of your fellow community members."
 
@TravisJ hah wow nice
 
@hichris123 - Yeah, yes.
@hichris123 - It is horribly off topic.
 
8:55 PM
stackoverflow.com/a/23740549/871050 4 more to great answer :D
 
Some messages are simply just bumps to keep it from being auto frozen
 
@TravisJ Do me a favor -- read the Tavern transcript, and In Praise of Moderators... and then tell me what's off-topic.
 
@darkyen00 I posted answer. I whole-heartedly agree
 
@SecondRikudo 2 more!
 
@TravisJ ... and? That happens all the time to chatrooms.
 
8:56 PM
I'm getting close on one of mine as well
 
@hichris123 - Also off topic. At least the praise one is, it is barely holding on though
 
@SterlingArcher o/
 
Probably be closed by Community at some point
 
@rlemon aren't you happy that you didn't post the question ?
 
@hichris123 - But, at least those rooms contain messages revolving around Stack Exchange terms or actors.
 
8:58 PM
@TravisJ Then, tell me, what is on topic? Oh, and btw the Tavern is like the only main chatroom mSE/mSO has ever had: meta.stackexchange.com/search?q=tavern.
 
@hichris123 - The other room mostly contains bump messages such as "ship","wreck","tuna","fish",literally the word bump, etc.
 
@TravisJ Your claim of off-topicness won't hold. And it's very difficult to prove too.
Let it go.
 
@TravisJ It's a game.
 
FTR:

JamExchange FM39.426

Featuring DJ Caprica. Room player: gist.github.com/CS1000/4553...
mods unfroze this room for us
even tho it is clearly off topic
I think certain rooms, as long as they don't cause issues, are fine
 
Right
 
8:59 PM
once flags start to flow, axe them
isn't there a Java Sucks room?

Java Sucks!

JavaScript Sucks!
 

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