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8:00 PM
I really can't stand the UI / UX changes
 
8.1 added the start button back? maybe I'll consider it
 
so basically you have no real desktop experience with it :P
gotcha
 
@Loktar they did? hrm. i'll check out 8.1
@Loktar I have maintenance desktop experience.
but, like I said, I totally understand it is just my preference - just like why I absolutely hate Mac OS - it isn't intuitive at all for me and I'm not about to switch to something that is less intuitive for me. :P
 
I guess, my argument is if win8 isnt intuitive for you than win7 cant be either, since the primary change is the start menu
 
^
 
8:03 PM
@Loktar well I don't see it that way.
the little changes annoyed me as much as the larger sweeping ones, I dislike using it
 
So one last attempt
 
define mobile zoom
 
Anyone knows of a way to control mobile's zoom with JavaScript?
 
not sure if you guys saw the new update for the steam survey but win8 is gaining ground
its cool they release that data
 
@rlemon Pinch to zoom
 
@MadaraUchiha initial scale?
 
I'm guessing Win8 is a little like Vista; too many changes so everyone hates it; Win9 will probably be like 7; very few changes, people generally love it.
 
@rlemon What are you asking?
 
@Retsam vista had stability issues as well
 
@MadaraUchiha if you are trying to modify the initial scale
 
8:05 PM
I'm not denying that Vista didn't have other problems, I should say.
 
people hate 8 for the metro interface mostly
 
@rlemon No, I'm trying to modify the "current" scale.
 
its meh
 
The ideal is that when I press a button, I trigger some JavaScript code that will completely zoom out.
 
But for the average user, the complaints about Vista were less about UAC and stability, but more of "they changed it, it sucks".
 
8:06 PM
from a sys admin side I see more reasons to hate the new versions of windows server
also linux still is only like 2% of all steam users.. so low
 
@MadaraUchiha did you try window.viewportScale
 
cant wait until dec 2014, will be interesting to see steamos adoption rate
 
@MadaraUchiha nvm, seems that was a utility
 
@rlemon Nope, and MDN doesn't seem to know it either
 
document.body.zoom = '1';
 
8:09 PM
pft
 
from a short google it seems the css zoom value should reflect the current zoom
 
$(document).zoom(); CLEARLY
 
I'll try
 
@RUJordan error
$(document.body).zoom(1);
obviously.
 
8:10 PM
I've been out jQuery'd O:
 
m59
@SomeKittens sup?
 
I desperately want to play DayZ but my macbook air wouldn't be able to handle it well :(
 
dayz is pretty fun, but the main server has been laggy/buggy as hell the past few days
kind of kills it
not sure if Im going to keep renting my server next month
 
m59
@SomeKittens demm kittennzzzz
 
8:19 PM
ill get it when it's not alpha or late alpha prolly
oh well it's windows only
fun
 
anyway bye all
 
the servers are even windows servers..
so crazy
prob why they cost so friggin much to rent
$96 or so for a 40 man server
 
^ My broken boot....
I look like a hobo...
dunno what else to do...
 
lol buy a new boot? :P
 
I love how I can take puffs of this e cig in work cause it's vapor so it vanishes real fast and leaves no smell :3
 
8:23 PM
@Loktar I am at work! and these were $200 boots!
I am going to return them...
 
m59
@qwertynl When I was waiting tables, I didn't want to buy new shoes, so at one point I reattached the sole onto my shoe with pop rivets.
 
LOL wow @m59
 
@m59 What is a "pop rivet"?
 
dont they have some sort of sole glue?
 
m59
@Loktar super glue wouldn't hold
 
8:24 PM
I think there is a brand called Jesus
 
m59
I did that first, then pop rivets :)
 
SOUL GLUE
 
@qwertynl I fixed my work boots with conformal coating - water proof
 
OHH
 
m59
haha
 
8:24 PM
!!s/sole/soul/
 
@RUJordan dont they have some sort of soul glue? (source)
 
@rlemon Where do I get that?
 
toe pro works wonders as well, if you need to fix black shoes
 
m59
@qwertynl it's kind of hard to explain. It's a little piece of metal. You drill a hole and then use a tool to kind of stuff the rivet in.
 
!!google conformal coating
 
@qwertynl it isn't cheap :P
 
@RUJordan there is a smell, some flavors have more smell that others, but it doesn't linger too long. also, my vapor doesn't vanish very fast - it's composed mostly of vegetable glycerin and since I'm running at really high wattages, I get giant clouds :P
 
@m59 Got it fixed, needed to $httpBackend.refresh()
 
its only smellz
 
@m59 maybe a shoe guy can fix my boot... but for now I have to have it like thiss... very annoying. Makes a funny noise if I walk...
 
8:26 PM
@rlemon Doesn't seem to work.
 
lol I can't smell anything with this. (It's just a blu disposable)
it's wonderful
 
I've never used this one ^^ but I have used the one for skates
 
@rlemon My boots are water proof.
 
it is a polyurethane coat
pretty thick as well
 
8:27 PM
@rlemon You skate?
 
m59
@SomeKittens doing tests?
 
will seal holes
 
do the rechargeable e-cigs cost less than packs of cigs?
 
@monners I played rep hockey until I was ~16/17
 
@rlemon Not a hole. The whole bottom is coming off...
 
8:27 PM
Nice
 
I mean.. dude... I am Canadian... what did you expect?
 
@rlemon I was state champ pairs figure skater
 
we are pretty much born with skates on
I skate fast and hit hard.
my shot isn't that great, but who needs one when you are drafted as a goon
 
I'm Australian, to be a skater is a freak of nature
 
Ummmm I am American.
 
8:28 PM
Speaking of -- the movie Goon is awesome
 
'MURICA!
 
Sean William Scott is a geeksesh
 
@rlemon any other ideas?
 
@MadaraUchiha What do u want to do? (you did not respond to relevant message...)
 
ugh. you are going to make me test it
@qwertynl reset the mobile zoom factor
 
I know how to disable zooming..
 
It's the middle of Summer and it's 14 degrees outside!
 
@qwertynl I want to reset the zoom onclick.
@rlemon As do I
 
@monners C or F?
 
Oh Melbourne, you temperamental bitch.
 
8:30 PM
@qwertynl doesn't answer the question
 
C
 
@monners COOKIE!
@rlemon 0o0o0o
 
whats capricas weather command?
 
Could really do with some ++ before my ride into work
 
!>weather
 
8:31 PM
button.addEventListener('click', function() {
  window.browserZoom = 1; // but this doesn't exist
}, false);
 
!!weather NYC
 
@qwertynl Carmagnola: 5.55C (278.7K), broken clouds
 
!!weather 68123
 
@m59 YEEP
 
@Loktar Bellevue: 1.7959F (-16.78C, 256.37K), sky is clear
 
8:31 PM
!!weather Kitchener ontario
 
@rlemon Kitchener: -12.22C (260.93K), light snow
 
@RUJordan a good ecig setup will run you like... ~20 bucks for a variable-voltage battery, 5 bucks for a charger, 4-6 bucks for a clearomizer, and replacement heating coils are like 2 each? then you need to get juice... I'd say expect to put down 50-60 bucks for a kit and some juice to start you off.
 
Guess it does not work with US Zip Codes @rlemon ?
 
we had a foot of snow last night.
 
so cold out today
 
m59
8:31 PM
@SomeKittens I'm probably lame but I haven't messed with it.
 
we have like no snow
 
@rlemon :|
 
@qwertynl no clue.
 
@qwertynl New York: 39.218F (4.01C, 277.16K), light rain
 
@nderscore right, and after that?
 
8:31 PM
after that its just replacement heating coils and juice
 
@MadaraUchiha I was showing @qwertynl what you were trying to achieve
 
It was 50F this morning and it is supposed to be like 17F tomorrow in NYC.
 
@rlemon Yeah but it's winter over there AND you're in Canada, the land of ice and compliments.
 
foot of snow last night, another 30cm tonight
going to be fun tomorrow
last week it was -35C :/
 
8:33 PM
@rlemon And people tell me my country's inhospitable... Sheesh.
 
@nderscore so how much a week do you spend on it?
 
LOL
 
@rlemon Ummm feet and meters?... wow :-P
 
@qwertynl sure
 
8:35 PM
@RUJordan I'm an enthusiast and power-user, so I probably spend more than your average vaper.
 
@rlemon :-D
 
Did you know that 41ËšC also == 41ËšF?
@nderscore gimme a number xD
 
@RUJordan Not true at all
 
I would love a hookah rig like yours lol
 
8:36 PM
@qwertynl sorry, -41 not 41
 
@RUJordan yep :-)
 
this is what happens when it is -35C outside and your sliding door freezes shut
parts of it had 1/2" of ice on them
took half an hour and a blow dryer to open the door.
 
shoulda peed on it
 
@RUJordan I go through 40ml of juice in a week because I run extremely high wattages for massive clouds. A normal vaper might go through 10ml.
I build my own heating coils, so I save money there.
and I don't buy the cheapest juice, so I pay a little more
 
dang, how do you do that?
Of course, gotta have the quality juice
 
8:37 PM
@nderscore I vape too! Have to order all my juice from the states though.
Ok, time to ride to work... Lycra don't fail me now!
 
i'm thinking i'm going to get into homebrewing
 
Did you just pray to a werewolf or something?
 
make me some beer! yea!
 
@rlemon beer?
yaaaa
My buddy does that
tastes like asshole, drunks like rage
 
well hopefully I will brew something tasty
 
8:40 PM
it was so gross haha
he's getting better tho
 
I will live here
 
> help: Beer smells bad
 
.
 
@rlemon help: wife smells bad (source)
 
@monners nice! what's your favorite juice and what setup are you running?
 
8:42 PM
Ah, the ol' canadian musk, eh?
 
@nderscore Double chocolate Custard (20mg/ml), Silver Bullet with the Liquinator
 
ah is that a cartomizer tank?
silver bullet is a nice mod
 
Yeah, cartomizer tank. Tried out the ProTank by Kanger but it just isn't that reliable
 
I love homebrew!
Its so cool seeing things developers come up with for old and new systems :P
 
@monners I'm big into rebuildable atomizers, so I'm usually a dripper. Still trying to find a good rebuildable tank. I hate genesis-style ones. I got the Russian 91% recently but I can't get it to wick properly :(
Carto-tanks are always my fallback option though :) I'm rocking a carto tank right now.
 
8:47 PM
How can I put a global value in Angular (say, something I want in the header of all pages)
 
I love dropping, but they're so hit and miss. If you find a good atty let me know
 
Do I need to create a header controller?
 
@nderscore @monners I might have to hit y'all up if I get a rig
 
@monners if you're willing to build your own coils, there's a lot of good dripping atty's out there. if not, the HH.357 is the #1 dripping atomizer
^ threw this together for you quickly
 
@nderscore I'll check it out. Anyways off to work. BBL.
 
8:49 PM
@SomeKittens are you making a single page app?
and just including partials?
 
Can't wait to see you @FlorianMargaine Where did you get the cash? :-P
Hmmm that sounded weird
ha
 
you da man!
 
@Loktar Yeah
 
Even location.reload() doesn't reset the zoom :(
ffs
 
Hi, I have a syntax question. I want to store multiple divs inside variables. But it fails in the last jQuery line. I'm trying this:
modal_html = [];
modal_html += $('<div class="modal fade"><div class="modal-dialog"><div class="modal-content">');
modal_html += $('<div class="many-divs">');
modal_html.insertAfter('.some-div')
 
8:51 PM
@Cadence96 Ummm.... That won't work...
 
hehe
any suggestion please?
 
modal_html is an array... It does not have insertAfter (actually, it might even be a string at the end there...)
 
@qwertynl yep, it becomes a string after the first +=
 
quick question. how would I remove elements from the nodeList reference
 
@rlemon for example?
@SomeKittens hence what I said :-)
 
8:54 PM
Just noticed the edit, nice
 
IC
 
@SomeKittens I said that the whole time: chat.stackoverflow.com/messages/13906191/history ;-P
 
@qwertynl I have a nodeList returned from QSA - as I loop over it for checks (happens on event listener) if a condition is passed I action on the node then remove it from the list so it doesn't get checked in the next event pass.
 
@rlemon Doesn't a NodeList use the same construct as Array?
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A: Can we Directly remove Nodes from a NodeList?

Felix KlingAs you can see in the specification, there is no method to remove an element from the list. It would not make sense anyway. This NodeList is live, meaning the DOM is searched again whenever you access a certain property, e.g. the length. From MDC: (...) The returned list lis live, meaning th...

 
@qwertynl not that I am aware of.
but I could be wrong
 
8:57 PM
thx @qwertynl
 
> The NodeList is an array-like object. Hence we can apply array functions to it, by using call [docs]. [].slice is just a shorthand to get a reference to the slice [docs] method.
 
^ yea, what I thought
so the answer is no
 
@rlemon Well you just convert it to an array with .slice(...)
 
I was trying to avoid that
 
@rlemon Yea... I realize that. Sorry :-(
 
9:03 PM
If I wanted for a CSS rule to apply to a element under a certain element only but the element under the certain element does not have a ID or class tag, is this possible? Like div.img
<div id='item-thumb'>
	<img src='blah.png'>
</div>
#item-thumb > img {
	width:64px;
	height:64px;
}
nvm stupid question I just needed to figure out what to search for
 
@qwertynl which cash?
 
@FlorianMargaine What you (or someone pretending to be u) wrote here: docs.google.com/document/d/…
 
<span>Hello World Foo Bar Biz Baz</span> <- user clicks on this text, how can I determine which point in the string they clicked on?
like if they clicked between world and foo, is it possible to get the caret position even tho there is no caret?
or do I need to measure offsets and shit?
 
@qwertynl ok, looks like I forgot the <sarcasm> tag. I thought it was enough to be in the "trolls" section
 
Dang, that's a good question @rlemon
 
9:10 PM
@rlemon I'd just put each word in a span
measuring offsets and shit is just not possible
 
haha! I can check caret position even if it isn't contentEditable
nice.
 
My finger hurts from checking out to many parallax websites...
 
@rlemon yes that's true, and yes I've been there.
 
@rlemon [].splice.call is what you're trying to avoid?
 
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Q: PDF cum image viewer in html

srinannapaAny one knows if there is any solution to view PDF and images in the same viewer (using browser). I know pdf.js is used for PDF files for viewing in browser. It can't handle images. Is there any single solution to view PDF and images in browser?

dat title
 
9:14 PM
lmao
 
he edited
 
Hey
    if (e.changedTouches.length > 1) {
        this.end(e);
    }
Now e.changedTouches isn't always defined
When it isn't, it causes errors, and everything gets screwed up.
 
@FlorianMargaine nay, dirty title remains
 
if (e.changedTouches && e.changedTouches.length > 1) {
}
 
@FlorianMargaine That would skip the second check?
 
Joe
9:19 PM
yes it would
false AND anything = false
 
Aight, thanks
 
@MadaraUchiha you're a PHP dev, right?
@MadaraUchiha short circuiting works the same as in PHP
 
if( 'changedTouches' in e && e.changedTouches.length > 1 ) {

}
because
 
@rlemon longer for no reason
but sure
also more spaces
will you put tabs there too?
 
9:20 PM
fuck yes!
 
!!s/ yes//g
 
@FlorianMargaine fuck! (source)
 
well I was lied too.
I was told 'key' in object was a micro optimization over object.key
apparently obj.key check is MUCH faster as a check over using in
 
@FlorianMargaine :-P
 
9:45 PM
@rlemon I don't follow, could you give an example?
 
if( 'jQuery' in window && jQuery.foo() < 1 ) is slower than if( window.jQuery && jQuery.foo() < 1 )
not that it really makes any difference, but I was told the opposite
I blindly took it for fact
 
It depends on jQuery though
if(window.jQuery) calls jQuery.valueOf or jQuery.toString
 
@copy yea well I was told in all cases it would be faster.
 
no, noob, it depends on window.jQuery
 
never gave it much thought
Jerry is doing a AMA
THAT'S GOLD AMAAN! GOLD!
 
9:48 PM
@rlemon if it makes you feel any better, I believed in the Easter Bunny until I was 4!
 
he's that famous?
 
Just blindly took its existence as fact...
 
@monners how old are you?
 
THE EASTER BUNNY DOESN'T EXIST?!?
 
26
 
9:48 PM
@FlorianMargaine dude, Jerry Seinfeld? Famous?!?! are you shitting me!?
 
just so you know, santa claus doesn't exist either
@rlemon ...
I'm afraid I'm not.
 
@FlorianMargaine 'Course he exists! noob
 
@FlorianMargaine maybe he just wasn't as big outside of NA
 
I don't know him either, probably something only Murricans find funny
 
s/probably/surely
however, you just called a canadian "murrican"
 
9:50 PM
Seinfeld's pretty famous down under
 
or you know, there is a cultural gap :/
 
@rlemon you mean a wide gap?
like, an ocean would separate us?
 
@FlorianMargaine Technically speaking, Canada is in America.
 
@FlorianMargaine I see what you did there
 
@MadaraUchiha Americas*
 
9:51 PM
@MadaraUchiha technically speaking, "murrica" is not america
 
or North America
you choose
 
Technically speaking Peanuts are not nuts, they're legumes. Technically.
 
I have a framed copy of "The Kramer" in my bedroom :)
 
@RUJordan Nice
 
9:53 PM
WHY THE HELL ARE YOU FAILING LOOP? 27 rows and 17 columns per row and 27x17 decides to fail. Freaking lovely
 
I have a framed poster of a famous Apple slogan made up from all of the official Apple fonts up to 2005.
 
because you need 26x16, noob
@monners the ugly all-colors apple?
anyway, g'night everybody
 
@FlorianMargaine Nah, it's black and white
 
night florian
 
10:13 PM
@connorspiracist Kill it with fire
 
10:28 PM
@connorspiracist even better. Follow some of the links and build a mental sitemap.
 
the cheaper model, eh?
!!cheaper or more expensive
 
@monners cheaper
 
How do you escape square brackets in SQL Server 2008? [this is my content] [[]this is my content] <-- that's how SO said to escape it but that shit didn't work
\[this is my content] ESCAPE '\' also did not work
 
10:50 PM
@copy omg never go to sleep, I have so much to tell you.
Like, I'm going to Mountain View in February =)
 
@BadgerGirl How was your first day at work?
 
I love the starred gif about temperature scales... I've always thought Faherenheit made more sense for everyday use.
 
I'm still there, but it was awesome. I played table tennis the whole day.
 
@BadgerGirl Nice, when are you coming home?
 
I don't know, when my friend goes home. He'll give me a ride.
And there's so much food, and I got a better macbook.
 
10:53 PM
Are you two married?
/dating
 
I'll maybe go to sleep before, I'm tired as fuck
 
Okay, that was all I wanted to tell you anyways. I'll go into detail tomorrow.
 
Yeah
 
@RUJordan LDR
 
!!define LDR
 
10:57 PM
@monners LDR light dependent resistor
 
long distance relationship
 
!!urban LDR
 
@BadgerGirl LDR Long Distance Relationship
 
Nah, I like the thought of your relationship being built on electricity and glowing things
 
It's close to that.
 

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