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6:00 PM
@AbhishekHingnikar k, cya!
 
@Cicada3301 do you know any server side language?
 
@Miszy I once copy pasted a php tag (trollface)
 
@Cicada3301 learn python
 
kinda... I tried php... but everyone here says it sax
 
IT DOESNT SUCKS
its just overbloated templating engine , or i can say the world's most feature compalient templating engine
 
6:02 PM
@AbhishekHingnikar I tried that... still learning it... not really at a fast rate
 
@Cicada3301 PHP is popular and easy but it's not the best choice :D
 
PHP can't even suck well
 
then bartek told me about flask...
 
@Miszy depends on the stuff
 
@Cicada3301 I was wondering, why do you want to pull news from the server?
 
6:02 PM
@Cicada3301 yeap flask is good
 
as soon as I get the basics of html in mind I'll get to flask
 
node.js / express is aslo good
 
@Cicada3301 you could go JavaScript on both server and client side :)
 
@Miszy it was just curiosity
@Miszy node.js
 
@Cicada3301 Yeah. Node.js + socket.io
socket.io works on both sides, node.js and browser. It's pretty awesome for real time communication.
 
user1596138
6:03 PM
Guess who's not going to jail :D
 
@Cicada3301 @BartekBanachewicz python, huh? I can recommend the bottle.py framework. It's as small as flask ;)
 
@Miszy that would be a better idea: I understand js better than other languages...
@Jhawins the other guy?
 
140
Q: Python Flask vs Bottle

VerhogenWhat are the large distinctions between these two microframeworks? It seems Bottle is more flexible in terms of the templating engine and other configurations, but flask supports many useful plugins like flask-openID. How are they fundamentally different, and why have they not merged?

 
@Jhawins who?
 
(jk)
 
6:05 PM
@Jhawins \o/
Got it all resolved?
also: you can haz booze?
 
@Cicada3301 You were asking about next excercise, right?
 
@Miszy yes...
 
@miszy @cicada there is also snap and yesod
 
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@SomeKittensUx2666 Well, I'm too young to legally haz booze anyway.
 
@Cicada3301 you pretty much can handle searching in Google now, CSS, HTML... Well... pretty good. Go JS now.
 
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6:06 PM
Nah not resolved. But the lawyer says there's no way I'll see time, and likely won't even get "convicted" at all. Should be a deferral/slap on the wrist.
 
When accessing properties, is Obj["Axx.Byy"] the same as Obj.Axx.Byy ?
 
@Miszy maybe searching in google... well...
 
@RavenDreamer No.
 
@Jhawins the suspense!
 
@Miszy I was afraid that was true.
 
6:07 PM
@Miszy there is one thing I've been saying many times but couldn't find out what it did... as /s/
 
 
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Still, looks like total cost of about $1,300 to sort out a mess I didn't create. This is, providing I don't find the answer to where my money actually went when I go to the clerks office tomorrow.
 
@RavenDreamer :]
@RavenDreamer Treat {} in JavaScript as if it was a hash map.
@Cicada3301 Regex ?
@Cicada3301 Regular expression.
 
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But the best part.... I get my license back this week most likely! I have to take a driver's safety course (4 hours on the computer) and pay a shit ton of fines first tho.
 
@Jhawins not everything is good news...
@Miszy maybe one think I should get my hands on is regex...
 
6:09 PM
 
I've seen many people use it everywhere...
 
@Cicada3301 It's pretty complicated stuff.
@Cicada3301 You'll learn it when you start using it.
@Cicada3301 First learn more JS
 
@Miszy well: i'm here!
 
@Cicada3301 Then do... your own markdown parser using Regexp. :)
 
@Miszy no idea what it is but sounds cool :D
 
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6:10 PM
> If money can fix it, it's not really a problem
 
@Cicada3301 Markdown? You can use markdown on Stackoverflow. Like this and this and this
 
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Just a set back.
 
@Miszy got it
 
__NOTOC__ Markdown is a plain text formatting syntax designed so that it can optionally be converted to HTML using a tool by the same name. Markdown is popularly used as format for readme files, or for writing messages in online discussion forums, or in text editors for the quick creation of rich text documents. History The Markdown language was created in 2004 by John Gruber with substantial contributions from Aaron Swartz, with the goal of allowing people “to write using an easy-to-read, easy-to-write plain text format, and optionally convert it to structurally valid XHTML (or HTML)”. ...
 
k, I could have googled that myself tho
 
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6:11 PM
 
@Miszy Hm. Is there any way to access nested properties with a single pair of brackets, then?
 
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^ I feel his pain
 
@RavenDreamer No.
 
Drat!
 
@RavenDreamer Why? :)
@RavenDreamer I mean, you could write your function... ;)
 
6:12 PM
@Miszy Because I'm trying to implement a dynamic sort. (i.e., sort this array on any N arbitrary columns), and the issue I have is some of the properties are nested, and the others aren't.
I was hoping I'd just be able to loop through the list of fields to compare, and return accordingly, but since some of the compared values are nested, getting to them is going to be less straightforward.
 
!!are you alive
 
hrm
the plugin didn't load
 
@rlemon Doubtfully
 
6:15 PM
she was "open" but for some reason the userscript didn't load the bot
 
!!tell Cicada3301 I am working
 
@RavenDreamer something like this? gist.github.com/mmiszy/8564204
 
@Cicada3301 Command i does not exist. Did you mean: ie, $
 
so.... she can work now...
 
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!!tell cicada3301 tell cicada3301 ping 'nested'
 
6:18 PM
@Jhawins Command tell cannot be used in /tell.
 
@BartekBanachewicz @Neil Yes, that was really ambitious, I mean like something worth to use, e.g.Blender, with some powerful tools (but still simple i.e 3dtin.com)
 
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@CapricaSix Interesting. Fine.
 
@timtimmy I know some things about webgl.
 
@BartekBanachewicz But are you suitable for this project - 1-2 hours every 2 weeks if you won't mind? Thanks
 
So what's the budget?
 
6:21 PM
    wow
                 much webGL
                            very  Bartek
many  Timmy
 
@rlemon we should change caprica's profile image to something like the matrix code...
 
@rlemon we should change Caprica's profile image to Mila Kunis <3
 
@tim how much / hour?
 
@BartekBanachewicz Do you accept dogecoins?
 
In before work for charity
 
6:24 PM
...
 
user1596138
!!tell CapricaSix echo stop
 
@Jhawins Command ping does not exist.
HAMMERTIME!
@CapricaSix stop
HAMMERTIME!
 
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haha
 
@BartekBanachewicz Take a wild guess....
I'm willing to be he doesn't have VC funding.
 
hurrdurrr
 
6:26 PM
1 hour ago, by Bartek Banachewicz
in The Renderfarm on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 30 mins ago, by Tim Timmy
though I don't own a fortune!
 
user1596138
Do you accept gum?
 
Hey guys
how do i make a div which is square
and of full height of parent
 
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@SomeKittensUx2666 His winking faces confuse me... Is he buying a WebGL expert or a sex slave?
 
i know square with full width of parent but is there any option for this ?
@RyanKinal @teresko
 
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@AbhishekHingnikar height:100%
 
6:27 PM
nobody ever pays me in gum
 
@AbhishekHingnikar JS acceptable? ;)
 
@Jhawins At this rate, he's not buying anything
 
@Jhawins width will be ambigous
 
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Well, by default block divs are width:auto; which should take up the entire available space anyway... I guess I don't understand the question.
 
@Jhawins Square means equal height and width.
 
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6:30 PM
Oh. Well @AbhishekHingnikar you sometimes word things oddly for English so I assumed you wanted it to be a square, not square. I was wondering how you could have trouble with this haha.
 
@Jhawins a square is still square.
 
@Jhawins :P
 
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@Miszy Don't be that guy.
 
now tell me how my friends ;P
and no not javascript acceptable
i don't wnana do that ugly
.onresize = RECALC;
 
user1596138
You want the parent to be square as well?
 
6:32 PM
11
Q: Pure CSS Solution - Square Elements?

Trey KeownIf I have a <div> with a relative width (such as width: 50%), is there a simple way to make it have the same width as it does height without resorting to JavaScript?

 
user1596138
jsfiddle.net/kTUC9 pretty simple... But I'm guessing they get resized?
 
@Miszy thats for width my friend
 
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@AbhishekHingnikar Real closer :P
 
i want for height
 
@Miszy so, the exercise?
 
6:33 PM
its like the whole html was written with just 1 alignment in mind ffs
 
@AbhishekHingnikar How about you use vw and vh units?
 
@Miszy elighten me
i am about to use REAL PIXEL UNITS
 
user1596138
@AbhishekHingnikar So, assign a width, then do height:auto
 
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display: inline-block;
 
user1596138
Nvm. Just use this fiddle for reference. It should help. If I understand what you want.
 
6:35 PM
DUH !!!
 
@AbhishekHingnikar Just do it with JS, it's not that hard.
 
Hi!!
 
hi!!
 
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@Miszy It's incredibly simple. I think he doesn't want to use JS because he doesn't want to use JS
 
HI!!
 
6:37 PM
@Cicada3301 hmm
 
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Oh hey @deep is here. Everyone take careful note of his and Cicada's actions... We'll figure this out.
 
@Miszy other than regexp and libraries I think I know pretty much all...
@Jhawins XD then send me the notes you took
 
jsfiddle.net/kTUC9/1 @Miszy , @Jhawins
that with a dynamic height :P
 
Has @Zirak Returned from the Crypt yet? I haven't been here recently. Speaking of which, @Jhawins That kind of thin gi s exctly the reason that I left.
 
can u do that... i dare you ... i double dare you !
 
6:38 PM
@deep It's actually a reference to @Neal
 
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@deep Oh don't freakout. That wasn't even rude in the slightest.
 
We discovered he had an alternate identity.
 
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Also, qwertynl ended up being Neal, so we're suspicious right now.
 
Hello, I posted my question like a week ago and got no response but it shouldnt be that hard: basically the question is how to get the selection in a browser under android? stackoverflow.com/questions/21170721/…
 
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@AbhishekHingnikar Huh?
 
6:39 PM
@Jhawins BUt soon it'll turn into random digs at me.
 
@AbhishekHingnikar No problem, how about JS?
 
can u mantain the square if the size of the container [height] is increased
 
@SomeKittensUx2666 Fill me in?
 
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@deep Grow up...
 
@Miszy I already said i can't use js
 
6:39 PM
It's already starting.
 
@AbhishekHingnikar You said you don't want
 
BOSS, Y U NO EMAIL ME BACK
 
@Jhawins I think you'll find that I've been doing that everyday for the past 14 years
:P
 
@Miszy it will cause insane issues am telling u
 
^ OH SNAP
 
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6:40 PM
That's good. Now, let's please move on kindly.
 
@deep qwertynl and neal were the same person, he was joking that you and Cicada were as well.
 
HA. Funny.
I'm not THAT desperate.
 
@deep that's what I was going to say
 
:)
 
anybody here listening knows how to get the selected text in an anrdoid browser guys?
 
6:42 PM
@obeliksz not me sorry
 
@Cicada3301 Sounds like the beginning of a beautiful friendship.
 
@SomeKittensUx2666 how about no...
 
@SomeKittensUx2666 what the hell have you done.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Sorry, I was doing something else, what about 25 dollars, or £15? Please respond to this by email at computerxplorer1"at"gmail"dot"com
OK?
 
Question: Whats the fastest way to retrieve a list of files of a specific type in a folder?

I mean, there is window.requestFilesytem, but I want files of a precific type (.htm)
 
6:43 PM
@RUJordan don't worry
 
@RUJordan They can vamp off of each other.
@TimTimmy an hour?
 
@SomeKittensUx2666 that's more likely to happend
 
@TimTimmy 25$ an hour for @BartekBanachewicz is kind of low to be honest but I'll leave it to him :)
 
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@Deep , @Cicada3301 Ball Pit room: For the kidz
 
@deep You can't access the local filesystem with JS
 
6:43 PM
He has a lot of OpenGL experience.
 
@Jhawins -_-
 
@SomeKittensUx2666 fine I trust your judgment D:
lol
 
user1596138
You don't appreciate what I've made for you?? Do you have any idea how much time that took??
 
http://www.html5rocks.com/en/tutorials/file/filesystem/

@SomeKittensUx2666
 
@deep it would be to google it.
 
6:44 PM
@BartekBanachewicz I'll rise the price to 30 dollars then
 
@deep and then click on the search result in google
 
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I had to click like 4 damn buttons!!!
 
@BartekBanachewicz So, what do you think? Thanks I'll be happy to pay more if you wish
 
@deep and do what that link tells you to, that would be the fastest way for sure.
@TimTimmy you'd have to ask him :)
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum Just..just... No. I obviously googled around. So be quiet.
 
user1596138
6:45 PM
@deep if you want to access the filesystem you should do that with a server-side language.
 
@BartekBanachewicz So? Thanks ;)
 
inb4 jsisserverside
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum dang he told u :x
 
@deep here's what I'm going to do, I'm going to google it now, and if I find an answer in the first 5 links - I'm muting you. Cool?
3
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum Bro. I'm in love with the Web Audio API. (Again)
 
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6:45 PM
@BenjaminGruenbaum Starred for accountability
 
@phenomnomnominal awesome :) Show us?
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum Ok, but remember I said "fastest" and "Specific file types"
 
I was up til 4am writing guitar effects in JavaScript.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Ok, I'll have to go for now, just ping me or send me an email if you need to - you are my only chance! ;) Thanks for now Bye!
I'll be back tomorrow
 
@phenomnomnominal guitar effects? Whaaaaaaa?
 
6:46 PM
@Miszy you there?
 
@Cicada3301 Yes, a sec.
 
@Miszy sure
 
^ There's a sweet distortion pedal in JS :P
 
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@BenjaminGruenbaum Yeah, it's there :D
 
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6:47 PM
"JS list files of specific type"
 
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Also on html5rocks.com
 
@Jhawins I clicked on the MDN link because it was first, I'm still skimming through it - I'm also looking at @phenomnomnominal 's thing, the html5rocks is second I'll get there :)
 
"Fastest"?
 
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@BenjaminGruenbaum Hmm... No mdn links for me. Must be customized search. Which obviously is cheating...
 
What would be the correct syntax to do this (asp.net razor) in a javascript block?: var mapOptions = {
center: new google.maps.LatLng( @Model.Lat, @Model.Lng ),
zoom: 8
 
6:49 PM
I'm gonna try to get some phasers and reverbs and delays working today :). I'm doing a lightning talk on this stuff for a local JS meetup next week and decided that nothing can beat a talk where I just live code guitar effects and play :P
 
@Jhawins I actually always click on the 'world' icon when I talk to other people about googling so I get 'unpersonalized' results. You can do that :)
@phenomnomnominal really cool trick :)
@PLaine what's the issue with what you currently have?
 
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@BenjaminGruenbaum World icon? I can't find it. But good tip.
 
tweeted chriscoyier
 
it says syntax error
 
@chriscoyier Any trick to make width of the div equal to dynamic height [aka height:100% ]
 
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@PLaine Post your exact code then.
 
@PLaine What's @ ?
 
user1596138
We can't judge a syntax error based on fake code :P
 
@PLaine post the resulting HTML, not the razor.
 
that's exactly the problem
 
6:51 PM
!!mute deep 20m "found it, though only on fourth result"
 
user1596138
You're missing the end bracket is why I think it's not your actual code.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum Muted user 1707126 for 20m
 
I cant get it to render the rezor
 
user1596138
Guess he'll have to use the Ball Pit.
 
room mode changed to Gallery: anyone may enter, but only approved users can talk
 
6:52 PM
lol dang @BenjaminGruenbaum NO MERCY TODAY
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum y u so mean?
 
@PLaine if the razor doesn't compile then it's the wrong room to ask :) Although I'd personally read about helpers, and @: notation if I were you, good luck!
 
@Jhawins the missing line: };
@BenjaminGruenbaum sorry and thanks
 
@Cicada3301 this is not the first, third or tenth time @deep has been help vamping this room without using google to search for solutions. In a year he has done nothing to try and improve.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum oh... well then!
I've been in this room for about 10 days...
 
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6:54 PM
!!stat deep
 
@Jhawins deep has 186 reputation, earned 0 rep today, asked 2 questions, gave 7 answers. avg. rep/post: 20.66. Badges: 0g 1s 12b
 
@PLaine the C# room can help you. I got myself into all sorts of issues with ASP.NET MVC in the past over stupid syntax things like that ^^ Usually it gets solved by @: or helper methods or even plain old string html generation when that's the last resort.
 
@Cicada3301 That didn't make much sense. Maybe you meant: stat, stats, sparta
 
forgot about sandbox
 
6:55 PM
@BenjaminGruenbaum Benjamin Gruenbaum has 26891 reputation, earned 70 rep today, asked 40 questions, gave 581 answers. avg. rep/post: 43.3. Badges: 6g 54s 93b
 
!!stat Cicada3301
 
@Miszy Cicada3301 has 54 reputation, earned 0 rep today, asked 8 questions, gave 1 answers. avg. rep/post: 6. Badges: 0g 0s 7b
 
So much time wasted :D
Also, still sick :(
 
Me too :(
 
@BadgerGirl what happened?
 
6:56 PM
@Jhawins @Miszy thanks for tuning in
 
Do you miss @copy too?
 
for my case, 100vmin was solution
 
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Caprica should give a "vampire" statistic with /stat. Something like if ((a - q) > 0) output = 'might be a vamp';
 
I have a cold and @copy isn't here. :(
 
width: 100vmin; width: 100vmin;
 
6:56 PM
Speaking of which @copy you should have a shot at writing a language, I think it'll be a very interesting experience for you?
 
@AbhishekHingnikar That's what I said at the beginning :P
 
wth?
 
@BadgerGirl did he get you an iPad?
 
!!sparta
 
@Cicada3301 You shout it and a particularly window-shatteringly high voice crack emits from your mouth. You awkwardly ask what the person wants. They say they want to get some froyo with you. You ask what kind. They say vanilla. You shout NOOOOOOOOOOOOO and as a result are decapitated. Game over.
 
6:56 PM
@BenjaminGruenbaum It won't.
 
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and if ((a - q) > 10) output = 'Wow';
 
@BadgerGirl why?
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum No, I got it myself.
 
@Miszy didn't knew about vmin
 
@AbhishekHingnikar :)
 
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6:57 PM
!!stic
 
@Jhawins That didn't make much sense. Use the !!/help command to learn more.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum I don't really know, I'm guessing on his taste for programming.
 
@phenomnomnominal what exactly does that do?
disorts mic input?
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum Meh, doesn't sound too interesting
 
@BadgerGirl which distro did you install?
ok then
 
6:58 PM
@SomeKittensUx2666 well yeah, but it's designed for guitar
 
@Cicada3301 so what are you working on now?
@Cicada3301 I know, do you have a github account already?
 
@Miszy nothing really... just chilling
@Miszy yes
 
@SomeKittensUx2666 basically the higher the gain, the more square-wave-ish the output becomes
 

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