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9:15 PM
The red button just completes the comic.
 
hm anyone have a problem where bootstrap tables aren't fixed width so they look weird?
 
Is the SMBC red button like xkcd alt-text?
 
Anyone know if it's possible to place a js alert under an iframe instead of having it pop up over it so the user has to exit the iframe before clicking ok on the alert?
 
hello everybody!
 
Hello
 
9:28 PM
do you guys not agree? Chrome devtools is the best IDE
especially for Javascript heavy apps
actually any wb app
 
I don't think you know what an IDE is
 
umm something that lets me write code
is a good IDE
 
Coffee?
 
It seems that it is you who do not know what an IDE is, if you don't consider chrome devtools an IDE
 
Is notepad an IDE?
 
9:29 PM
or have not dealt with all the pains and productivity reducing features of all the giants
Troll harder
because you are failing
 
It follows your definition
So either define better, or accept it
 
sure it does but I don't consider notepad an IDE
ok
 
@Zirak Depends on how you define IDE. "Idiotic Dumb Editor"? Then yes ;)
 
I will do that and and contact you when I give a damn
the take home message is that Chrome devtools is the mother of all IDE
 
Unless there's a way to create a new JS file on my machine from Chrome (which I really hope there is)
 
9:31 PM
if you know that then I am happy
 
I'll be waiting eagerly
 
why certainly, add the folder to workspace
 
escalated_quickly.png
 
Every day that passes without you is a torment.
 
and right click, map resource file and your changes are instantly reflected
 
9:31 PM
This is a strange conversation.
It's like trolling, but I can't see the point?
 
I'm surprised how little people know about chrome devtools and the fact that it can pretty much kill any IDE out there
 
interesting conversation to walk in on
 
GUYS I KNOW I'M TOTALLY NEW TO THIS ROOM, BUT HERE'S MY OPINION BASED ON INCORRECT FACTUAL DATA PLEASE VALIDATE ME BY AGREEING.
 
unless you haven't spent most of your time using the browser console you will not be able to appreciate the elegance of chrome devtools
 
I especially like how he blitzed in here, asked for our opinion, and then rejected all input, driving home his original one.
 
9:33 PM
"asked" is a strong word.
 
I especially love your avatar
 
@KimJongWoo Yes, Chrome DevTools is known for it's ability to stop the JVM and inspect lisp.
 
haven't touched JVM in ages
 
posted on September 18, 2013 by Victor Rodriguez

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@PaulIrish, is that you?
 
9:33 PM
Restraining orders tend to have that effect
 
tell me all about it
i'd be happy to hear about your legal situation
 
i like how chrome dev tools gives me a foot massage in the morning
 
I also know @rlemon loves using Chrome for autocomplete and function lookup in his integrated systems programming.
 
@SomeKittens To be fair, does an IDE have to be multi-language?
(If so, is Eclipse an IDE?)
 
!!wiki IDE
 
9:36 PM
An ideology is a set of conscious and unconscious ideas that constitute one's goals, expectations and actions. An ideology is a comprehensive vision, a way of looking at things (compare worldview) as in several philosophical tendencies (see political ideologies), or a set of ideas proposed by the dominant class of a society to all members of this society (a "received consciousness" or product of socialization). Ideologies are systems of abstract thought applied to public matters and thus make this concept central to politics. Implicitly every political or economic tendency entails an i...
 
Haha.
 
@Retsam If an IDE is claimed to "Kill every other IDE out there," then yes.
 
what's missing in chrome devtools is a nice ctrl+shift+f which cleans and indents the code
 
!!wiki integrated development environment
 
look at all these armchair historians!
 
9:37 PM
An integrated development environment (IDE) or interactive development environment is a software application that provides comprehensive facilities to computer programmers for software development. An IDE normally consists of a source code editor, build automation tools and a debugger. Several modern IDEs integrate with Intelli-sense coding features. Some IDEs contain a compiler, interpreter, or both, such as Net Beans and Eclipse; others do not, such as SharpDevelop and Lazarus. The boundary between an integrated development environment and other parts of the broader software developme...
 
((Yes, I'm aware that Eclipse can be used for languages other than Java if you're the sort of person who make bad decisions))
 
@CapricaSix I hate you
 
gee that's a ego thing to say
 
> Fun factoid #3: Chrome users have a higher psychopathy score than Firefox users. blog.statwing.com/…
 
lot of people use eclipse for other technology stacks
 
9:37 PM
@Retsam It can also be used for Java if you're the sort of person who makes bad decisions.
 
not statistically significant enough to matter
 
@SomeKittens Are you saying that Eclipse is a bad Java IDE or that Java's a bad language?
 
@KimJongWoo Funny, same goes for your opinion.
 
both
 
@Retsam it's the JS room, what do you think?
 
9:38 PM
Cause if Java isn't optional (i.e. business world) then Eclipse is a valid option.
 
somekittens you remind me of a girl from grade 3
 
Only time I've used Eclipse was for screwing around with Minecraft Mods
@KimJongWoo Was she good looking? Might be me.
 
Having recently used Netbeans, I think it's better than Eclipse now.
 
she always says "back to you or talk to teh hand" whenever anyone insults her
or she perceives as being insulted
 
Also, I've heard Eclipse can be pretty good for PHP
 
9:39 PM
@KimJongWoo Err, you're the one who's coming in here being crazy defensive.
 
nevertheless she was shunned and eventually killed herself
 
(not for anything non-Java, mind you)
 
@KimJongWoo ah, probably not me then.
 
@KimJongWoo That's a lovely story.
Do you have other childhood nuggets of wonder?
 
@KimJongWoo And, making offhand comments about suicide. Stay classy, KJW.
 
9:40 PM
Zirak? the psycopathy in you is strong. you must be a chrome user
 
!!stat KimJongWoo
 
@SomeKittens User Elusio proved elusive.
@SomeKittens Kim Jong Woo has 1596 reputation, earned 0 rep today, asked 350 questions, gave 21 answers. avg. rep/post: 4.3. Badges: 4g 40s 100b
 
offhand? lovely story? you guys are insane. this was a tragedy.
 
350/21 MMMMMM YEAH NOT A VAMP
 
yeah boi
look at em stats
don't forget I have 4 gold medals, 40 silver, 100 bronze
 
9:41 PM
@KimJongWoo Well, you sure aren't treating it like one. I don't casually say "oh, hey, you remind me of this person who killed themselves" to people.
 
you missed that and I'm disappointed Caprica
 
is it possible to set the z-index of a js alert
 
@KimJongWoo they're called badges. and they're worthless.
@user2087587 no
 
Retsam, that's what you think
 
@KimJongWoo oh yes, those are so important
 
9:41 PM
> Finally blew past the 1500 reputation mark on August 14th, 2013 10:47AM, it took 3 years and 10 months and 345 questions.
 
badges are worthless? since when ? WW1?
 
that's... not something to be proud of
 
I am
maybe if you've asked enough questions you will get there one day
 
@KimJongWoo There good for about as many things as war.
 
9:42 PM
@Retsam I think both is true :) If I had to touch this steaming pile of shi^Wcoffee I'd do it with intelliJ - but eclipse is just so bloated nowadays.
 
@KimJongWoo ...I have 14k fake internet points, but that's irrelevant
 
without war we wouldn't have the internet and software and computers
war is good
 
And goddamnit, an IDE where you cannot select a dark colorscheme without changing every color manually - seriously?
 
war is for the advancement of humanity
and IDEs
 
Lol, look at the "achievements" on his profile description
 
9:42 PM
So every time you helped someone, you asked for help 16.6 times.
 
@ThiefMaster Yeah, I'm not "great defender of Eclipse" here, I've used it a little.
 
when was this about others?
stackoverflow is about me
3
 
@KimJongWoo Ahahahaha
 
(Can we stop feeding the troll now?)
 
that just made my day
 
9:43 PM
The universe is about you.
 
@Retsam no, this is the most fun I've had all day
 
Eclipse works great for Android and Java but there are definitely better ones out there
 
@Retsam but... so much entertainment
 
 
You're our special, special snickerdoodle.
 
9:44 PM
guys im trying to keep the chat on topic
you guys are the ones going off tangent
 
The topic being "Kim Jong Woo is awesome"
 
Pro tip: There is no topic. There is only tangent.
 
while I desperately try to demonstrate the superiority of using chrome devtools
 
Hahahahaha, it just keeps getting better
 
I had a professor who had his class doing C++ programming in Eclipse...
 
9:44 PM
Retsam, and do you think that you will be as successful in life as him?
 
@KimJongWoo Are you a relative of Evan Carroll?
 
An IDE is something that can't save a file, can't autosuggest, can't change color scheme, can't suggest fixes for crashes, can't continue on error, and can't navigate a directory.
 
I am a relative of the human race
 
.. not being devils advocate wars are bad but so many technical advances come from wars just sayin
 
Somekittens: yes but chrometools can do all that
 
9:45 PM
@KimJongWoo I'm not sure about that...
 
you need to add the folder to the workspace
click on the gear thing
 
@KimJongWoo Chrometools can save a file?
 
@SomeKittens apparently yes
 
if you don't believe me try it out
 
I just did it
 
9:45 PM
@SomeKittens wow I read that as Cameltoes can save a life..
had some dyslexia for a second
and it was amazing
 
@Loktar #WYN
 
@Loktar I'm dying! Give me the camel toes!
 
haha
 
9:46 PM
@Loktar You know it!
 
None of us are saying that devtools is not helpful, just that it's not technically an IDE.
 
^
 
What's funny is Kim Jong Woo might actually have some decent point to make, if he wasn't making his point so badly.
 
You, know, trying to have a reasonable discussion rather than trying to bludgeon people over the head with their opinion.
 
9:47 PM
click on the folder, right click enable map to resource
try it out
I'm sorry you took it so dan seriously
 
@KimJongWoo well done. But that's like saying a hammer is the best tool in the world. What happens when I want to cut something.
 
We're always serious.
 
you hammer it dude
because it's the best feeling in the world
 
The only man who can save us now.
Seriously.
 
@KimJongWoo This isn't just "we took it too seriously" it's "you were stupidly argumentative"
 
9:48 PM
you are not trying hard enough
 
You are trying too hard.
 
@SomeKittens He Looks pretty serious
 
@RyanKinal DAN Serious.
 
yes at letting people know of the benefits of chrome devtools
 
@SomeKittens Get on TS, we have Ryan Kinal
 
9:49 PM
Right. Pretty Dan Serious.
 
now that it's got your attention, my work is complete.
 
@Zirak YES
 
... Dan Serious is pretty?
 
I get to hear the wizard's sweet voice again.
 
Limited edition, mint condition
 
9:50 PM
haha yes!
 
Yes, your work of evangelizing the most popular browser in the world.
 
"Can I talk to you about Google Chrome?"
 
studies have shown people who are butt hurt and insecure resort to attacking the opponent's grammar, scrutinizing it for any mistake in hopes that it will discredit the opponent's argument but failing to see that the game has already been won, and you are certainly not the winner.
 
[Citation needed]
 
you certainly can Retsam!
 
9:51 PM
@KimJongWoo Studies have also shown that conclusions presented without a source didn't actually happen.
 
@Marcel Welcome to the JavaScript chat! Please review the room pseudo-rules. Please don't ask if you can ask or if anyone's around; just ask your question, and if anyone's free and interested they'll help.
 
this is wikipedia now? geez someone get snowden in here
 
@KimJongWoo you show a remarkable lack of understanding about everything.
 
@KimJongWoo Studies have shown that people who are trying to win an argument without an actual argument often point to fictional studies to make their point.
 
@KimJongWoo We generally expect people to bring something more than opinion to the table.
 
9:52 PM
tell me more doctor
 
@KimJongWoo Studies have shown that you're a doodoo head
 
@Zirak Yeah, I think I read that study, too.
 
Yeah, it made HN frontpage
 
can you post a picture of doodoo
 
Oh, I saw it published in "Stop being a moron" weekly.
 
9:53 PM
I am not familiar with what it is
maybe you can englihten everyone here by posting the best picture you can find
 
Send us a picture, and we'll post it.
 
Retsam, wow your sarcasm is certainly comical.
 
@KimJongWoo It sure amuses me.
 
the proof of burden that doo doo exists is on you
 
9:54 PM
the letters are too tiny on that comic
and I do not have a magnifying glass atm
 
(Click on the picture, it gets bigger. Magic)
 
@rlemon where the hell are you? You're missing all the cool people on TS!
 
@KimJongWoo I like how you mention that, but acted like the burden of proof in proving devtool's IDE existence wasn't on you.
 
which picture, there are many pictures
 
To be fair, the tendency for MOAR GRAPHICS really is detrimental to video games as a medium.
 
9:55 PM
like on one picture theres two stick figures, the second 3, the third, 3
my my if you were this knowledgeable you could've been a great lawyer
that likes to hang out in JS chatrooms
 
Honestly, I think PS2 era was possibly the golden age of video game graphics in terms of quality vs. development cost.
 
I partially agree
 
@rlemon I do, in fact, have Bastion. I will install it and give it a shot.
 
@KimJongWoo bro, you're a fucking douche.
 
whoa whoa whoa language
 
9:59 PM
@phenomnomnominal TEEEEEEEEAAAAMSPEEEEEAAAAK
 
that's against the rules here, reported.
 
@KimJongWoo Language: JavaScript
 
@SomeKittens ATTTTTTT WOOOOORRRRRKKKKKK
 
Flagged message as offensive or spam.
 
@phenomnomnominal yeah, me too
 
9:59 PM
@KimJongWoo OH NO. I'm really scared. YOU. ARE. A. FUCKING. DOUCHE.
3
 
lol
 
@KimJongWoo I declined it. That's not against the rules
 

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