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user1596138
Hmm...
 
Hahaha, fair edit.
 
Guys.... Video thumbnail creation using jQuery, any ideas of how to go about this?
 
@BrandonGelfand no
also, your previous message is still on screen
at least let it bump off
jeeze
 
@rlemon do you know of anyway to make a thumbnail from a video?
Maybe not jQuery, but any way?
 
8:02 PM
yup
 
video -> canvas -> dataUrl -> img tag
 
I don't really wanna use ffmpeg-php
 
video is really just an image that flips frames
so what phenom said
and you don't even need the img tag. just use the canvas tag.
but this is costly.
proper thing to do would be to do it on the server once when the video is uploaded
making the client do this will limit IE (no canvas <10) and will be slow in other browsers
 
Does it use a lot of resources?
 
Canvas is still pretty new / slow
so long story short - I know you don't want to - but do it on the server
do you think youtube does that live? i don't think so. The most sensible way would be to do it on the server after it is uploaded
but that is my two cents - canvas will allow you to do it on the client
 
8:05 PM
I can't install ffmpeg-php though, I am on a shared server
 
get a new host ;)
 
I don't have lots of money, xD
 
Canvas will severely limit you.
 
and yet you want to serve video?
 
do you want this app to run well on IE8/9?
also, does the video get hosted on the same domain ?
 
8:07 PM
@phenomnomnominal I have unlimited storage and bandwidth, and its only for a few people
 
video tags do not support CORS atm in any browser but FF latest
 
@rlemon it has the ability to be embedded
 
I said nothing about that
 
It will be hosted on the same domain
so yes
 
eh, I still think doing it on the client is a waste. but it is possible for IE9+
 
8:09 PM
I like how @BadgerGirl missed a closing parenthesis in her postcard to @FlorianMargaine. I'm guessing it was intentional.
 
and all other modern browsers
 
2 hours ago, by Florian Margaine
the missing paren will haunt me forever
 
@rlemon what do you suggest I use to make it server side?
ffmpeg isn't an option for me
so do you know of any others?
 
magic powder?
 
I feel like a horrible person right now.
 
8:11 PM
Why @BenjaminGruenbaum ?
 
@FlorianMargaine hah, awesome. :D
 
I was just on the tram and this orthodox guy (you won't really get the context) started giving this 16 year old sexual hints. I gave him a stern look and told him to stop, but eventually I got off the train and left him there.
(The 16 year old was also a guy, not that it matters in this context)
 
@copy @BadgerGirl btw, if you're coming to France, I wouldn't want me to cook if I were you. Just sayin'. :>
 
Should've stayed on that tram
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum you've probably done more than anyone else in the tram.
 
8:14 PM
@BenjaminGruenbaum Meh, you can't save everyone. You've tried though, which is more than most would do.
 
@FlorianMargaine Bullshit, should've stayed there.
 
Yea, what Florian said.
 
Well I do know what orthodox is, and I am sure that the kid will be fine, don't worry about it.
 
@OctavianDamiean No, this is me fucking up. I'll have to think hard how this sort of thing will not happen again.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum you can't always be there
 
8:15 PM
Yeah, but I could have been there right now.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum Unless you go all berserk and fuck that guy up I doubt there is much you can do.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum you did more then anyone else probably, and I don't think the guy will be stupid enough to do anything after you saw his face and with everyone else on the tram near him
 
If you really feel bad about it, call the train people or the cops
 
Yeah you could call the cops like phenomnomnominal said
They will sort it out and make sure the kid is fine
 
I really can't understand why this line won't work : document.getElementById('mySelect').add('test', document.getElementById('mySelect').options[null]);
 
8:16 PM
On what basis? Creepy guy telling a kid he 'looks good'?
 
To be honest, I doubt the police will do something.
 
^
@AndréSilva What's .add?
 
@user1522901 Welcome to the JavaScript chat! Please review the room pseudo-rules. Please don't ask if you can ask or if anyone's around; just ask your question, and if anyone's free and interested they'll help.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum It should add an item to my <select />
At least is what I've seen in google :X
 
If the cops over there are anything like ours, then they'll probably ask you to stop wasting their time.
 
8:17 PM
Do I have to appendChild ?
 
@AndréSilva No, why would it?
@OctavianDamiean that.
 
I need help with a javascript function that won't display jqueryUI dialog box, help must use teamviewer as project is too large to jsfiddle. Please let me know if you can volunteer your services
 
This was me fucking up, big time.
@user1522901 LOL
 
@OctavianDamiean what country do you live in?
 
Thanks for making me laugh
 
8:18 PM
@BenjaminGruenbaum I think I did two things wrong, first I followed an w3schools example and second I think I did not read it correctly.
 
@AndréSilva I stopped reading at w3schools.
 
What's funny though, if you go all berserk and fuck someone up, they'll be right there and you'll be the bad guy.
@BrandonGelfand Austria.
 
@OctavianDamiean Don't care being the bad guy if it was the right thing to do.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum I usually don't read but I was in a hurry, just now I saw that I clicked its link
 
@Katona Welcome to the JavaScript chat! Please review the room pseudo-rules. Please don't ask if you can ask or if anyone's around; just ask your question, and if anyone's free and interested they'll help.
 
8:19 PM
@OctavianDamiean ah, ok, in my city if there is something suspicious the cops are there in under 5 mins
 
Yeah I'm going to appendChild
 
They have a 3 minute response time to my house when the alarm went off
 
I guess I really have to reconsider things in my life. That was a really bad judgment call on my part and I have to think how it won't happen again. I've been in life and death situations before and I made the right judgement call - this is the first time I'm really disappointed in myself in such a context.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum Here in Austria it's quite a problem though, civil courage is rare because the people fear the consequences. That's only because the justice is quite fucked up.
 
I don't know what changed, 3 years ago there is no way in hell I would have gotten off that train.
 
8:20 PM
Yeah working perfectly.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum are you in NY ?
 
or
 
@Shmiddty I did not know that website. That is totally going to my bookmark. Thanks
 
@AndréSilva 1st argument of add is a dom element
 
8:21 PM
@OctavianDamiean Don't care, other people being assholes is not my problem, this has never happened to me before. I put my personal time ahead and made an obvious mistake in a judgement call, I have to make sure this will not happen again.
 
But isn't that a HTML5 thing ?
 
@BrandonGelfand No.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum im not a vamp i just need someone to look at my code and see why this thing won't open, you will be surprised and what i have tried
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum don't be so hard on yourself, we all make mistakes. Just keep an eye out on the news and if you see anything call the police
 
@AndréSilva no
 
8:22 PM
@AndréSilva the 2nd argument is
 
I don't mind being a dick to people on the internet, but I've always taken pride in being able to step up when the need arises. The need has come and I didn't step up.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum as silly as it sounds - next time just take a picture of him. If he asks why say something along the lines of "just in case evidence".
 
Perfect then. Thanks.
 
I mean, if you really had to get off the tram
 
@rlemon Next time I'll stay there.
 
8:23 PM
I just need to add some kind of order and verify if it already doesn't exists in this select.
 
well, just if you couldn't I'm saying
 
@rlemon That can get you sued in Austria. :(
 
Hi all
 
@OctavianDamiean most countries it wouldn't
most countries adopt a 'open public' law.
 
@user1522901 Are you willing to pay for it?
 
8:24 PM
I can take pictures of anyone I want in public places. but they are not always admissible in a court of law.
however I need to let you know ahead of time if i'm recording your voice.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum depends on the work needed
 
kinda stupid, but I guess it was for some entrapment cases?
idk.
 
Someone please tell me I fucked up right there.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum your looking for something that isn't there
You didn't fuck up, so stop looking for why you might have
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum Shit happens mate.
 
8:25 PM
You know that jsbin cleans out their database once in a blue moon and all the links go dead... right? — Neal 5 secs ago
ARRRG
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum about the train situation, I think you did the right thing by stepping up - hopefully your actions inspired people to take more affirmative actions after you got off. at least you did something - this is a big step.
 
@Zirak just became my favourite. Gives @Zirak a hat
 
No thanks, I already ate
 
@Zirak please tell me I fucked up.
 
Zirak's everyone's favorite.
 
8:27 PM
@BenjaminGruenbaum You did and you didn't. By some standard, you fucked up by not staying there and yelling at the goat until he'd repent his evil ways, or bashed your skull in (or anything inbetween). On the other hand, you certainly met another standard - you did something. Something > nothing.
...yelling at the goat? Yelling at the guy. But this way's funnier.
 
Way to help him feel better -_-
 
@BrandonGelfand Yeah, because the end goal is to make people feel better... -_-
 
@Neal learn how to explain yourself better in comments. you come off as a dick half the time and it's hard to agree with you even when you are right.
 
@rlemon I do not mean to be :-( I really have to word things better...
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum whats done is done, you don't need to go about feeling guilty for the rest of your life
 
8:30 PM
I commented on that answer and he's fixing it. Just needed someone to explain things a bit better.
 
@Neal You can start by learning JavaScript ...
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum I have. tyvm
 
@Zirak do you know of any way to create video thumbnails without using ffmpeg or canvas?
 
Benjamines proving his "I'm a dick to people online" point ;)
 
@AndréSilva if you want to add options to the front of the list, it would look something like this:
var select = document.getElementById("someID"),
    opt = document.createElement("option");

opt.value = "value";
opt.text = "text";

select.add(opt, select.options[0]); // add to start of list.
select.add(opt, null); // add to end of list
 
8:30 PM
@Neal tyvm?
 
!!google tyvm
 
@BrandonGelfand are you going to ask everyone in the room as they become active?
 
No, just Zirak
 
flash (probably) , canvas, or a server component.
there is no other options
 
8:31 PM
The Mantis Shrimp is so freaking awesome!
 
He usually has the answer
 
!!urban tyvm
 
@OctavianDamiean TYVM Thank You Very Much
 
@BrandonGelfand Right, but I can see what I can do better next time.
 
client side stuff is wasteful.
 
8:31 PM
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@SomeGuy yes yes they are
I can get one of the colourful guys for like $40 at my LFS
 
@BrandonGelfand My goal wasn't to make him feel better, my goal was to tell him what I thought to be true. He's right, he did fuck up - he's not a knight in shining armour. But he's also wrong, since he didn't fuck up - he qualifies as a human being.
 
this chat is very fun to wathc
 
but I would need an acrylic tank.
 
@rlemon I thought about flash, but I would like it to be able to be uploaded via iPhone or iPad as that is the new computing style of many teachers
 
8:32 PM
@BrandonGelfand you need a new server to do this then mate.
 
@Rooster It also tastes good.
 
if you want to do it properly
you need some sort of control on your server
 
@rlemon I don't imagine having one as that cool, though.
 
@Shmiddty I did this, follow my next comment
var temp = new Array();
for (var i = 0; i < lstFeriado.options.length; i++) {
    temp[i] = new Array();
    temp[i][0] = lstFeriado.options[i].text;
    temp[i][1] = lstFeriado.options[i].value;
}
temp.sort();
while (lstFeriado.options.length > 0) {
    lstFeriado.options[0] = null;
}
for (var i = 0; i < temp.length; i++) {
    var op = new Option(temp[i][0], temp[i][1]);
    lstFeriado.options[i] = op;
}
 
A 15 yr olds budget isn't much, so I guess they will just have to make there own thumbnails or not have them at all
 
8:33 PM
I just hope that .sort() isn't an HTML5 thing
 
@SomeGuy they are not bad. interesting little shits.
 
@AndréSilva JS 1.0
 
Watching them in the store they just stand there and clean themselves.
 
sort has been around... by why sort?
 
Because I'm adding dates
 
8:34 PM
@BrandonGelfand yes. Because in order to do what you ask you need to install modules for PHP
 
Let me fiddle what I'm doing.
 
or if you can find a service..
 
sort isn't going to work in that context
 
@rlemon I was really amused by how good their vision is supposed to be. And, of course, the ease with which they can break glass.
 
and if you can stand to make $300 a year on this project you can afford a small VPS to host it
 
8:34 PM
@OctavianDamiean yea... i forgot the command for that...
 
or, rather, you'll need to provide a comparator
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum what are your thoughts :)
 
@BrandonGelfand read above x3 messages from me
 
@rlemon yeah thats not in the budget :/ you think people will be fine to make there own thumbnails ?
 
@OctavianDamiean mmmm chicken...
 
8:35 PM
@SomeGuy there are two types - the hammer guys and the spike guys
 
@BrandonGelfand You can look for inspiration here html5doctor.com/video-canvas-magic
 
the spike guys stab their prey and cut it up - are are not colourful.
 
@Neal I love chicken
 
@Neal Raw chicken, banana split.
 
8:35 PM
the smashers are very pretty, and can break glass because their punch is faster than a .22 bullet.
 
@Zirak already know about that, @rlemon suggested against it
 
I didn't suggest against it - I suggested a proper solution on the server would be best
 
@Rooster ummm... in what way?
 
and I still suggest that ;)
 
oh, you want to do it for user uploaded videos or something like that? Then yeah, do it on the server.
 
8:36 PM
@user1522901 I'm tired, disappointed in myself after events of today, I look at the 7 years since I felt life was ahead of me and I feel that they went by way too fast, much faster than I thought they would and that the free time I thought I had until I was 30 really isn't there. I think that I'm well off, I have my own place, a decent job and an education but I have to really think about who I really am in this life. That I really have to give it some real hard thought.
 
@Zirak I can't install something like ffmpeg though because I am on a shared server
 
@vamsi Welcome to the JavaScript chat! Please review the room pseudo-rules. Please don't ask if you can ask or if anyone's around; just ask your question, and if anyone's free and interested they'll help.
 
Also, your jQueryUI could not be any less interesting, and there is no way you can afford the 30$ the "more affordable" people in this room charge.
 
Do you know of some sort of snippet maybe @Zirak /
 
hahahah
 
8:37 PM
if you do it on the client you are limiting which browsers you support - and you are offloading more work for the client. Depending on the clients device you might not even be able to do it
 
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thats an assumption that you cannot make
 
Ooooh!
 
@Rooster just paste the image url
 
I'm not sure of how well the canvas API is supported on iOS
 
8:37 PM
> Thermonuclear Bomb of light and beauty.
 
@BrandonGelfand In an undefined language? No
 
@Zirak PHP
 
@user1522901 About my life or about your project?
 
@SomeGuy there are much more interesting underwater critters.
 
8:38 PM
Then definitely no.
 
@rlemon Yeah? Like what?
 
what are you interested in? corals? inverts? fish?
 
@Zirak well then do you think using canvas will be fine to make the thumbnails then?
 
yeah thats what I was trying to do
Maybe I should go on meta and ask how
 
8:39 PM
@BrandonGelfand Probably not.
 
Sea apple is a common name for the colorful and somewhat round sea cucumbers of the genera Paracucumaria and Pseudocolochirus, found primarily in Indo-Pacific waters. Sea apples are filter feeders with tentacles, ovate bodies, and tube-like feet. They can release their internal organs or a toxin into the water when stressed. Physiology Sea apples are holothuroids, and as such share many of the same physical characteristics. A few notable characteristics are discussed below. For more information about the physiology of holothuroids in general, see the appropriate sections in the main ar...
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum I cannot speak about your life because I really don't know who you are, but you cannot make an assumption about what I can and cannot afford, you don't know shit
 
@Zirak then what do you suggest?
 
whoops someone already did
 
8:39 PM
wow. @SomeGuy see above.
 
@rlemon Just creatures with fascinating features.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum Welcome to the human race
 
@SomeGuy sea apples fit the bill then
 
@user1522901 Yeah, I guess I don't. I do know teamviewer for a jQueryUI project is unlikely to get help for free.
 
8:40 PM
> They can release their internal organs or a toxin into the water when stressed.
Huh.
 
also albeit somewhat common - read about green spotted puffers
 
@BrandonGelfand Absolutely nothing. Either get a way to generate them on the server, accept that generating on the client is sub-par, or don't generate at all.
 
@SomeGuy haha, yea a lot of corals and cucumbers puke out there internal organs to eat / defense
 
ohhhhh thats how you do it
 
8:41 PM
@BenjaminGruenbaum I never said for free ever -_-
 
@rlemon I read about them when you said you were going to get some for your tank!
 
although thats a little too much Eastwood for me
 
if I pick up one of my mushrooms from my tank to move it / split it they puke out their guts
florescent green tubes
 
@Zirak We don't like to think that now do we? People dislike that they're just people. You grow up thinking that you're somehow more..
 
@Zirak do you think people will be able to make there own thumbnails ?
 
8:41 PM
@SomeGuy ohh I have kept green spotted puffers for 7+ years now
 
Quick question. Is there a way to submit the values I dynamically added to my select element ?
 
Or you said that you had some in your tank
Yeah, that ^
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum and just because I don't have 20k rep like you do, it doesn't mean I don't know what I'm doing. If you were too look before you speak, you would be quite surprised.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum yeah...our mothers tell us that we're special, and we eat that like sweet sweet ambrosia. We are special, but we're still human, we're still horribly demented and magnificent.
@BrandonGelfand Yes, and they'll be annoyed that they have to
 
user1596138
!!stat user1522901
 
8:43 PM
@Jhawins user1522901 has 69 reputation, earned 0 rep today, asked 3 questions, gave 19 answers. avg. rep/post: 3.13. Badges: 0g 0s 7b
 
no scales - skin
no teeth - beaks
one of the longest memories
can live in fresh or salt water
when they get annoyed they turn black (it is a very quick transition, 1 second white - 1 second black)
there memory is so good that you have to change tank decor every few months or they get bored - also they remember people. When I walk to the tank they let me put my hand in and pet them. GF still can't yet.
 
@user1522901 Hah, rep - rep is the most meaningless measure one can come up with. SO rep means nothing :) Look at @Neal he has like 50K rep and he doesn't know any javascript
 
@SomeGuy
 
!!stat Neil
 
@Neal User Elusio proved elusive.
 
8:43 PM
@Zirak well I can't get my own server cause it costs to much, and I shouldn't use canvas so what options are left?
 
@user1522901 I'm not assuming anything about you , don't worry about it. I just had a shitty day.
 
3 mins ago, by Zirak
@BrandonGelfand Absolutely nothing. Either get a way to generate them on the server, accept that generating on the client is sub-par, or don't generate at all.
 
@rlemon Wow, really? They recognize people?
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum i am not sure why you say that a lot. I know a lot of js.
 
Also, how do you know they're bored?
 
8:44 PM
@Neal No, you really don't :)
 
@Shmiddty It was.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum whatever you say...
 
@Neal I'm not saying I'm the biggest expert, but you seem to elude things like events, callbacks and closures - the bread and butter of JavaScript.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum I'm not worried about anything besides getting my issue resolved
 
@BrandonGelfand at this point it is clear Zirak is going to give you the exact same advice we did ;)
 
8:45 PM
@BenjaminGruenbaum When do I ever do that?
That is all I use lol
 
and like I mentioned - a small VPS can be purchased for ~$300/year
so set yourself a business model to make that much money and you hosted the project for free
 
@rlemon I don't have any more money though
 
@user1522901 Make an offer in the open, this room is full of competent people who can help you - I'm tired right now, I can personally recommend most people here.
 
user1596138
!!stat neal
 
@Jhawins Neal has 57969 reputation, earned 26 rep today, asked 91 questions, gave 2462 answers. avg. rep/post: 22.7. Badges: 10g 79s 134b
 
8:46 PM
@BrandonGelfand well then do it client side with a sub-par solution until you get more money
then move servers and do it properly
 
Alright
Time to see how I can do this
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum I cannot put a price tag on something, unless someone goes over it, lets me know they can solve it and how much they charge
 
@Neal Do you really want me to paste links to saved screenshots of deleted answers, duplicates and rep whorings of you, or do you just want this conversation to end? I tend to think the latter.
 
Fun :)
 
@BrandonGelfand it is easy
 
8:46 PM
@user1522901 just ask your question, someone will probably do it for free.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum whatever you want.
 
user1596138
I suspect someone is trolling...
 
you load the video - then you just think of the video tag like an image. you literally just draw it to the canvas element - the canvas element will hold the snapshot from the point you drew it @BrandonGelfand
 
@user1522901 Pay hourly, that's what we do and it works great for us, we've had nothing but good experience with freelancers.
 
I don't think it will require hours
 
8:47 PM
@BenjaminGruenbaum says you....
fucking contractors.... die. (as he works on the contractors PHP)
 
@rlemon Huh?
 
It will probably take 10-15 minutes, its just stupid jQuery UI
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum horrible experience with contracted programming at my work ;)
 
Effort put in by this room ∝ interestingness of the problem
 
^ 1000000000 x this
 
8:48 PM
Haha, that's really small.
 
hey all - i have an email with a link to .ics file. is there a way to link to download immediately rather than open in my browser? essentially.. force save.
since it's an email, i'm limited to straight up HTML
 
@rlemon You ❤ contractors. BFF4L.
 
only you mike
only you
 
Stop it, I am blushing.
 
ok it looked like interesting drama.. and something to do with jQuery UI
fill me in fill me in
 
8:50 PM
you missed it
 
I'm going to take a stab in the dark - to concatinate an array in php is array_concat(arr1, arr2[, arrn]) ??\
i'm going to go look it up now, just wanting to guess it first
 
@Esailija @BenjaminGruenbaum speaks the truth, @Neal got a bit hurt. @user1522901 has a problem but he wont tell us what it is.
 
@rlemon Just use plus signs.
 
Its a secret
 
rlemon is working on PHP - pity me
 
user1125394
8:51 PM
@rlemon array_merge
 
@rlemon ehhh I am too... that is life.
 
so i'm guessing you cant force a download with straight html? :/
 
fucking array_merge
 
@KevinMurphy not unless you control the server the file comes from?
 
why does php have to have the worlds most horribly named functions
 
8:51 PM
9
Q: What's the difference between array_merge and array + array?

The Pixel DeveloperA fairly simple question. What's the difference between: $merged = array_merge($array1, $array2); and $merged = $array1 + $array2; ?

 
@phenomnomnominal yeah the issue is.. it's an email.
 
user1125394
merge = no dups I think
 
but the file is in a link?
 
@phenomnomnominal hmm?
 
array_merge is better in my application
who wants duped values for keys
 
8:52 PM
@rlemon mmk
 
@rlemon Someone not using an array like a map :P
Seriously, I love how JS separates ordered and unordered lists.
 
Someone should start writing TLDRs again.
 
@Neal well you failed to read shit again
 
user1125394
duped values I meant
 
@rlemon booo u edited.
 
user1125394
8:53 PM
sorry
 
almost instantly as well.
 
user1596138
 
@rlemon again -- internet outside our proxy is sloooow
 
user1596138
I still don't get it. But I don't need to.
 
8:54 PM
@Jhawins idk either. My JOB is a web developer. This is what I do for a LIVING...
 
@Jhawins if you look at his questions with high votes in either tag they are 99% rep farming. his answers are sometimes accurate, but often have omissions and are scrutinized until fixed (see comment trails)
 
Hey everyone - if I am using Application Cache for making my site viewable offline, do all requests check there first, regardless of whether you're online or not?
 
@Neal well that is meaningless - I just worked with a guy who also does this for a living and I could shit out better code.
 
@rlemon again. You want my rep? Just tell me where to put it.
 
@phenomnomnominal Probably yes, but you can check for updates and flush it, there is a nice summery on html5rocks
 
8:56 PM
I don't want your rep. I'm just calling you out on rep farming
 
user1596138
@rlemon Give me his job. I'll shit out some codez.
 
I could farm rep if I wanted to as well.
> but why is it always PHP? Can't I crunch out some Ruby one of these days?
 
user1125394
duh, if there's one thing not deterministly significant it's rep
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum yeah that's what I thought from reading it, can't get a definitive answer without implementing it i guess.
 
@rlemon I just answer questions. I do not pay attn if they were asked before or not. It doesn't matter to me as long as people get their questions answered.
 
user1596138
8:57 PM
Time to go home.
 
@Neal it is no point for discussion (because frankly watching you try to justify your actions some times is painful) - you ask questions you know the answer to, but you also know they will get high votes - you may not mean to do it for "rep farming" but that is what you are doing.
 
@Neal Yeah, like I said - you get StackOverflow, you understand how it works when a lot of us refuse to.
 
@FlorianMargaine did it the other day unexpectedly. Croissants question.
 
@rlemon No a majority of my answers have 0 or 1 votes. whatever.
 
@Neal Please dude, you don't want to open this up...
 
8:59 PM
So the majority of your answers are poorly rated?
 
@rlemon but mine was phenomenal
 
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