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6:00 PM
@Jambo ok, new errors now. The 'theme' you bought was built using jQuery 1.5, and uses some stupid stuff with plugins from that time period. So using 1.9.x breaks your corners plugin, but to be honest everyone supports corners and the dated stupid browsers that do not you shouldn't care about
 
did you put the name servers from elnacional.com.uy into your account for tricolor.com.uy?
 
$.browser was a horrible idea and i'm glad it's deprecated.
 
@kevin Yeah I was just going to write that
 
ditch the corners plugin, do the corners in css and say FU <IE8
 
@Loktar sure else you wouldn't be redirected
 
6:01 PM
@BadgerGirl Is that (P ^ Q) -> R or P ^ (Q -> R) ?
 
no
that would be a forward
thats diff than specifying the nameservers
a forward is just a link to another domain basically
 
@sanchy dont use htaccess, you just need to add tricolor to the serveralias, no redirecting
And point tricolor to the srrvers ip ofc
 
@FlorianMargaine yes Im going to google that serveralias stuff
 
@Kevin hmm it's just like the images sliding that's broken?
 
6:02 PM
@Shmiddty User -1 was not found.
 
@FlorianMargaine since I have no idea what you're talking about :D
 
was url support removed?
 
@BadgerGirl In general A -> B is true in 3 our of 4 cases (it's raining -> it's cold, In any of the following: it's raining and it's cold, it's not raining and it's cold, it's not raining and it's not colr)
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum It doesn't say but I'm assuming it's (P ^ Q) -> R because of operator precedence.
 
Apache only allows one servername but multile serveraliases
 
6:02 PM
 
@BadgerGirl In that case, 7 sounds right. It's only not true if P and Q are both true, and R is false
 
A servername or serveralias is an url on which you tell apache to listen to
 
@BadgerGirl Which other cases did you have?
 
@kevin I can't see a difference in any corners not being curved anyways..
 
user2157210
6:03 PM
ay
 
he also needs to specify the correct nameservers on the domain hosting side
 
@Kevin but it seems like that carousel is broken
 
and not use a forwarder
 
@Jambo because all browsers but stupid old IE support it
 
user2157210
6:03 PM
y u mustache my girl
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum Right, I'm retarded.
 
@BadgerGirl You can try, but I generally don't answer if I'm not in the mood to. Also, prove it, please. Email me my number (you can find that obviously)
 
@Jambo where is the carousel?
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum Yo, email your professor for that paper, please. I'm about to sleep soon, so I thought I'd ping you in case I forgot later
 
@BadgerGirl The "implies" operator is one most students don't get initially.
@AmaanCheval Thanks
 
6:05 PM
@Kevin where the company logos are, they should be sliding automatically, with arrows
@Kevin it might work if I add back that core, I'll show you...
@Kevin yeah not it works see
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum Yeah, I was doing it backwards.
@AmaanCheval It ends with 795.
 
@Jambo you are not understanding me. removing the core is just so you are not downgrading your own jQuery. don't add it back in. Fix the issues
adding it back in, albeit might work for now, is a horrible solution
 
@BadgerGirl Wow, nice! How'd you find it?
Facebook?
 
@Kevin yess I know, sorry, I just did it to show you what i meant
 
6:07 PM
jcarousel also relies on $.browser
 
@AmaanCheval Here is a popsci article about it independent.co.uk/news/science/…
 
a lot of plugins did
 
Turns out I already had an email about it XD
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum Oh, cool, thanks!
Hahaha
 
@Jambo update your jcarousel file as well sorgalla.com/projects/jcarousel
the project maintainer should be releasing compatible versions for newer jQuery
 
6:08 PM
@AmaanCheval Don't worry, your phone number is not public in facebook. It's creepier than that.
 
@BadgerGirl Wait, I think I know how you found it.
Yeah, it's pretty easy to find it
I didn't bother protecting my info on the WHOIS
 
@Jambo use this code for your jcarousel raw.github.com/jsor/jcarousel/master/dist/…
 
Thanks for the help people. I've created a question in case anybody wants to check it http://stackoverflow.com/questions/15909341/mask-url-redirection
See you around, thanks a lot
 
@BadgerGirl So you just WHOIS'd a domain you knew was mine?
 
@Kevin okay just updated it
 
6:09 PM
@AmaanCheval it's the easiest way
 
@AmaanCheval No, your friend told me.
 
@BadgerGirl Freak
 
@BadgerGirl Hmm. Abhishek?
 
Yeah. :P
 
Hahaha
 
6:10 PM
@Jambo ok so the only errors I see now are the plugin (corners) and there is a bad character somewhere (might be a userscript of mine)
 
That isn't all that creepy
 
how does it look on your end
 
It'd be creepier if you managed to get it from another friend off Facebook somehow
That would be social engineering
 
@Kevin huh wat?
 
@Kevin well the jQuery from the original question still doesn't work - change the first option box to 'You & Partner' and submit with empty fields, the bottom part still doesn't work correctly like the top...
 
6:12 PM
@AmaanCheval I wrote a bot to dial every phone number in India and ask "Amaan?" if the guy on the other end didn't sound confused I made note of the number. Once I had all of the 'almost' numbers I then proceed to call all of them and whisper "the game", if I get a loud "FUCK YOU JANDY" then I know I have the right Amaan.
 
@Kevin I think we can screw the corners plugin, there's no noticeable difference to me
 
@Jambo lets get you upto date first, then deal with code.
 
@Kevin okies
 
@Kevin Hahaha
 
@Kevin it only fixes corners for browsers that don't support css corners. So like IE8 and earlier
 
6:13 PM
@Kevin You're rlemon, right?
 
My plan is to call JAndy in the middle of the night and say the game.
6
 
@AmaanCheval Changnesia... when I woke up they told me my name was Kevin and I was a programmer.
 
@BadgerGirl Good plan!
 
lol
Y'all are sick ...
 
I tried that already but he didn't answer.
 
6:14 PM
@BadgerGirl thats why you text him. (96700)
 
!!/choose "Get WHOIS guard" "Get WHOIS guard once you actually use your domain for more than just the cool email"
 
@AmaanCheval Get WHOIS guard
 
Eh
I'll just get it later
 
jAndy is going to hate me. :D
 
why do you want whois uard?
 
6:16 PM
I've had the domain for over half a year, just parked
 
He just lost the game.
 
@AmaanCheval privacy is a fable featuring a badger and a monkey.
You should know it is impossible for you to protect your information online now-a-days
 
Yeah, it does seem silly
But it shouldn't be as easy as entering a captcha to check the WHOIS
 
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Hah, it was simple enough. I just edited the info on my profile to remove a digit from my mobile number. Who doesn't love a false sense of security?
Okay, I'm going to try to go to bed. Later!
 
6:22 PM
Just 9 combinations to try :)
 
@kevin hmm what should i do now :/
 
@AmaanCheval that is illegal.
@Jambo well if you are still having issues in like 3 hours come back and ping me and I can play with the code and not just stare at it
sorry, actually working :P
you really shouldn't falsify that information
just pay to protect it or don't care that people have it
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum You don't know the position
And there are 10 digits
 
@Kevin shouldn't you be working?
 
@FlorianMargaine programming drives atm
I have 10 free minutes every 15 or so
 
6:26 PM
@kevin okay :( i'll definitely be back ha i've spent all day on this
 
@copy You only need 9 tries though. Also, you can pretty easily tell where the digit was removed from, like country code, area code, etc
 
@Jambo it is a simple enough fix. you got a plugin with old ass code and you're trying to use new code with it. you just need to update some stuff and you should be good. but yea, see me in like 3 hours
 
@kevin i'll have a play and see if i can get something working :)
@kevin okay cheers man!
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum I say you do the finite and figure out how many combinations there are
 
I still see @rlemon XD
 
6:29 PM
me too
 
I wish I knew who this rlemon guy was. Sounds like he did some pretty horrible things to you guys. But rest assured, because of my changnesia I am not the same person, I would like to start over ... ohh hey, a book on hats .
 
is jquery bad?
 
 
@Connor No, it's good, just easy to abuse
@Kevin ninja'd
 
6:30 PM
@BenjaminGruenbaum not loadin
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum is pure js better and qucker?
 
ohh there it is...
holy 10meg gif much?
 
jquery is pure js...
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum dude...
ten meg!
 
@Connor speed of execution is less important 99 times out of 100. jQuery makes your life easy by abstracting a lot of stuff. Pure DOM with JS is quicker, yes, but that's hardly important.
@Connor the problem with jQuery is that it's huge (80kb gzipped) and bloated.
 
6:31 PM
97*
 
@Connor Also, it's easy to abuse, the problem isn't with jQuery, it's with developers who think they don't need to learn JavaScript and just "get along" by copy-pasta'ing code from various jQuery questions
 
wat, so much?!
 
m59
@Connor if you use jQuery, make sure to load it from google
 
@Connor to put it simply. JQuery is basically this:
element.style.display = 'none'; // this is a pain in the ASS to write over and over

function hide(elm) {
  elm.style.display = 'none';
}

// so now I can load this big abstraction library and do simple stuff like this
hide(element);
overly simplified example: but I hope you get the gist of it
 
no, it's not just this
on is a better example
 
6:33 PM
@Kevin ok, is there much browser compatibility issues with pure js?
 
@Kevin don't remember stuff like that if you hide, and then show, it'll show with the previous state, so if you hide when it said inline-block, it'll show with inline-block
 
jQuery also made (makes) cross browser js easier.
 
@Connor Yes, there is
 
@Kevin Hmm, I'll change it back, I guess. Was simple enough to find anyway. By the way, new map in Awesomenauts
 
@Connor At least if you need to support IE8
 
6:33 PM
@BenjaminGruenbaum Lovely :D
 
@Connor again, false assumption. DOM implementations vary between browsers. Libraries like jQuery have attempted to offer shims for this so you only need to write for one browser, behind the scenes it is applying the code for the other browsers
 
everything has issues with ie8...
http headers, urls, js, css...
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum afaik .hide just display: none, but I tested this with an older jQuery a long time ago
 
m59
@Connor loading it from google usually takes care of the size issue. If you have a jquery file on your server and load it from there, what happens is that everyone that visits your page must download your copy of jquery when the page loads (at least the first time, and possibly everytime depending on settings). Letting google host it for you means that the user's browser probably already has downloaded it from google and the browser can use the previously downloaded copy.
 
thanks for the opinions, now that's a good point, what about the jQuery.on in pure js because i have alot of problems working with dynamically added content unless i use on so whats the crack with pure js on this matter?
 
6:35 PM
if you want to write actual JS and not an abstraction but you want to not worry about browser support (namely IE) look at Modernizer.js
 
@Connor That's a pain to implement, but it can be done with native js
 
@m59 yeah, i know it's cached i just feel bad the way im using it :D
 
@Connor event delegation
 
@Kevin Doesn't modernizer just feature detect?
 
@Kevin There is not as much difference in browsers as you think. At least not JS-wise
 
6:35 PM
IE8: addEvent, IE6/7: onstuff, other: addEventListener
 
@Connor if you are looking to learn JS use JS as much as you can. If you are looking to bang out products faster, use what facilitates that.
 
@FlorianMargaine attachEvent iirc
 
oh right
 
^
 
@copy I realize this; but it's a lot easier to toss in Modernizer for people who don't understand how to do feature detection
 
6:36 PM
my bad.
 
m59
Oh, and I think that loading it from another server also means that you can deal with more downloads at once (I can't remember the details..), but your page loads even faster just because of that.
 
@Kevin Yes, but that is bad
 
@Connor the easiest way to learn JavaScript is to learn node.js , after that you get a true sense of how JS works.
 
better than including jQuery for the same reason
 
who the hell is kevin?
 
6:36 PM
@m59 modern browsers can have 8 simultaneous connections from the same domain
 
/me wonders if he has him on ignore
 
@Connor after that learn how native DOM methods work
@Loktar Porizm
 
@Loktar Changnesia
 
@Loktar refresh your page
 
lol wat?
 
m59
6:37 PM
@FlorianMargaine so that is no longer a relevant practice? at least in general?
 
how can I see who I've ignored?
 
m59
I guess if you were loading a ton of scripts and css?
 
@Loktar info
 
@m59 it still is. Why would you waste a simultaneous connection?
 
@Connor when you know both JavaScript and how the DOM works, you can use jQuery safely. I still do from time to time, (mostly not, but still from time to time)
 
6:37 PM
there we go
I now see kevin
I didnt have you on ignore.
weird
 
@Loktar let me help you
!!/slidepoop
 
@Loktar can you see rlemon?
 
lol
 
@Loktar it is I, rlemon. you had my name as rlemon because you didn't refresh.
 
m59
6:38 PM
@FlorianMargain Ok. But if you're loading 9 css/js files on one page, you've utterly screwed up, yeah?
 
uhhh... no
 
I cant see @rlemon now wtf?
 
@Loktar that's the thing. He changed his name...
 
ok, so is it just ie8 i need to keep an eye on?
 
6:38 PM
wtf why
why would you do such a thing!
 
@Loktar if I name change while you are in the chat you see my old name, pings and all. if a new user joins they see my new info (from the server)
 
coz he's a moron
@Kevin "reply to" use the new nick though
 
@FlorianMargaine uses both iirc
 
@Connor jQuery is fine to use, really.. A lot of big sites use it. In general, don't use JavaScript code you don't understand
 
if you see rlemon you should be able to ping @rlemon
 
6:39 PM
@Connor basically, if you have to support ie8, use jQuery.
if you don't, then use whatever library you see fit.
 
we've already determined your opinions pretty much mean shit
 
... Java Sucks?
 
6:40 PM
in Trash can, 1 min ago, by Kevin
and I changed it because Community is fucking awesome!
 
I wasn't so mean.
 
Better than "Java"
 
in Java Sucks, 1 min ago, by Florian Margaine
Community sucks
 
Or "Hello World"
 
Community--
 
6:41 PM
Community--
 
I should slap both of you.
 
agreed^
 
Community++
Community++
 
Community++
 
one last question ( '' or "" ) ????
 
6:42 PM
@Connor tabs or spaces? emacs or vim?
 
@Connor doesn't matter, just be consistent
 
kkk
 
@Connor do what causes less quoting
 
m59
@Connor I'm an efficiency nut (as I think we all should be) so I don't like the idea of jQuery. I use it in my script to deal with some browser compatibility issues and a few animations. It would be directly more efficient to add a few functions for that stuff into my own script and not use jQuery. (I'm using like .5% of that massive library). However, since it is likely that the user already has a cached copy of jquery and a lot of the functions are convenient, it makes sense to use it.
 
Community++
!!/karma Community
 
6:43 PM
@Kevin Community has 3 karma
 
@rlemon just set it to 1337 on your server :P
 
good call.
I can access localStorage
but that would be dishonest, and that was Chang. I'm Kevin.
 
Can I ban myself from the bot?
 
You're a room owner you can't.
 
takes the bait
!!/ban BenjaminGruenbaum
 
6:48 PM
@BenjaminGruenbaum Cannot mindjail owner BenjaminGruenbaum.
 
cute
 
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Q: Activate JavaScript when a user "sees" an element?

Harrison's HelperI am interested in making a statital "rating bar" similar to the one(s) here: http://gdgt.com/improv-electronics/boogie-board/1st-gen/ but I am not sure how I would do it. Basically on the load of the page, it doesn't activate the element, but when you scroll down to the bars, it loads them. Ho...

 
thats my fav image today
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum has been added to the mindjail.
 
!!> console.log("OH HAI KEVIN")
 
6:53 PM
@BenjaminGruenbaum You iz in mindjail
 
!!/unban BenjaminGruenbaum
 
@rlemon did you remove me from the list of owners on the bot XD?
 
nope
 
Just typed it manually and added to storage?
 
6:54 PM
bot.banlist["1348195"] = {told:false}
not in storage. just the session
!!/refresh
unbanned
 
lol
funstuff
 
yea, I just realized I can add session commands with bot.addCommand
I have been hosting the bot for a while now and never had the interest in hacking it
 
@Connor I tend to use '' most of the time. I end up using "" when I need single-quotes in the string because escaping is lame.
 
!!/mustache Kevin
 
@Kevin Command mustachify does not exist. Did you mean: mustache
 
6:57 PM
spanish teachers need moustaches
 
@SOChatBot 10/10
 
@Kevin Spanish teacher?
 
sochatbot++
 
I was told that I used to be a spanish teacher
wrong chang...
> POSITION: SHIRLEY'S SANDWICHES EMPLOYEE (FORMERLY SPANISH TEACHER, STUDENT MUSIC MAJOR, AND CAMPUS SECURITY GUARD
 
ive also heard someone say if statements are bad, is that so?
 
6:59 PM
I said that.
 
@Connor Not at all, they are horrible
 
@Connor Yes, everything should be a ternary
 
short circuit everything.
 
(or a short-circuit)
 
or switch case, switch case is awesome
 

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