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but if anyone knows of a javascript irc chat that is open source... i would love to have the link
 
javascriptircchatthatisopensource.com
 
@copy freenode
isnt it?
 
The name implies it is free.
 
10:02 PM
hm. cant find its source but as far as i know its irc implemented in nodejs
 
◎⃝ _◎⃝ ;
 
ya, thats the problem i kept running into
no source
 
mibbit is fairly fully featured.. but its not open source (per se) and the code is obfuscated
 
@PimpTrizkit The fact you can get the code doesn't make it open source
 
10:04 PM
i know that! duh
 
So why the per se ?
 
but i was just saying... because it is JS i can see the code... but the code is not readable
 
@PimpTrizkit making the code readable is a matter of a few hours,
@PimpTrizkit The fact you have access to the source code of something doesn't mean you can make your own version of it. It's about licensing.
 
I know that.. duh
i was just trying to learn
 
I hate crystal reports. so much.
 
10:06 PM
@PimpTrizkit There you go. atheme.org/project/charybdis
 
Oh, learning from the source code is good :) That doesn't make it open source
 
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i know that! duh
 
YES!
BOOYA BITCHES
 
missing a space
 
10:07 PM
FUCK YOU
 
Does it remember who it already greeted?
 
<3
 
Yes, stores in localStorage. Not full proof, but easily transferable. It doesn't greet who ever's a mod/owner, not in js room or was seen before. Should there be a rep limit as well?
And of course, it treats those who were in the room when it logged in as "seen before"
 
!!>"Can the bot @ping other people @"+"Zirak?"
oh it's turned off? :(
 
Pings are just strings, so yes, it can. I'll bring it online in a few.
 
10:09 PM
so i could potentially make a command that would ping every single user in the room? >_>
 
If you can find a way to get every user in the room, yes.
 
@david Yes, that would get you !!/ban ned though :P
 
does the bot have dom access?
 
@SrleWelcome to the JavaScript chat! Please review the room pseudo-rules. Please don't ask if you can ask or if anyone's around; just ask your question, and if anyone's free and interested they'll help.
:D
 
10:10 PM
@Shmiddty Bot itself yes, code eval doesn't.
 
!!s/full proof/fool proof/
 
One sec, I'll just do basic bug checks and bring it online
 
and add a space before Welcome
 
Did that as soon as I saw it
Is the message ok?
 
you're a saw
You should mention pooping on slides
 
10:13 PM
TIL "Cotton Eyed Joe" is an over 150 years old song,
@Zirak Yeah, it looks ok
 
You should add "This is an automated message please do not @reply"
 
Replying could be funny :P
 
that's why you'd add that. it puts the idea in their head
 
@<username> Welcome to the JavaScript chat! Please review the room pseudo-rules. Please don't ask if you can ask or if anyone's around; just ask your question, and if anyone's free and interested they'll help. P.S. rlemon will poop on your slide if you piss him off.
 
!!/listcommands
 
10:15 PM
@Zirak help, listen, eval, live, die, refresh, forget, ban, unban, info, jquery, choose, user, listcommands, purgecommands, define, norris, urban, parse, tell, mdn, awsm, beautify, convert, get, google, hang, karma, learn, mustache, nudge, spec, stat, timer, todo, undo (page 0/0)
 
Appears sane. I wonder if refreshing rlemon's instance will re-introduce it
 
:O
!!/slidepoop
!!/gayclubs
 
!!/refresh
oh right, sandbox
!!/listcommands
damn, yeah...
Well, hopefully rlemon works tomorrow and can re-spawn it. I'll run it locally in the meantime.
 
ok, noob question... seein that ive not spent much time in SO chat... whats with the double bang? some sort of system command?
 
!!/ban PimpTrizkit
 
10:18 PM
@phenomnomnominal User PimpTrizkit added to mindjail.
 
!!/tell PimpTrizkit help
 
mind jail?
 
hello
 
@Zachrip Welcome to the JavaScript chat! Please review the room pseudo-rules. Please don't ask if you can ask or if anyone's around; just ask your question, and if anyone's free and interested they'll help.
 
10:19 PM
Anyone up for testing a chrome extension?
 
!!/slidepoop
 
@Shmiddty Command slidepoop does not exist.
 
thanks zirak for the link
 
:O:O
This is a sad day for man kind
 
Nobody?
 
10:20 PM
Dudes, of course. Commands are saved locally. When rlemon brings the version there back up, it'll be there.
 
@Sotiris Welcome to the JavaScript chat! Please review the room pseudo-rules. Please don't ask if you can ask or if anyone's around; just ask your question, and if anyone's free and interested they'll help.
 
!!/learn slidepoop chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/17?m=8231986#8231986
 
@Zachrip Might help if you explain what its purpose is
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum Command slidepoop learned
 
@Zachrip go ahead
 
10:20 PM
It's for twitter
 
@Zachrip No thanks, twitter is stupid.
 
!!/learn gayclubs chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/8333542#8333542
 
could someone help me understand what is going on with Javascript objects? I am confused
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum Command gayclubs learned
 
Alright, anyone else?
 
10:21 PM
@Sotiris They're cool, how is that confusing?
 
!!/learn tobacconist "Drop your panties sir William, I can not wait till' lunchtime"
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum Command tobacconist learned
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum You want to test?
 
!!/slidepoop
 
@Shmiddty chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/17?m=8231986#8231986
 
10:22 PM
@Zachrip I don't really use twitter, sorry
 
user1125394
!!/flush memory
 
@crl Command flush does not exist.
 
!!/forget slidepoop
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum Command slidepoop forgotten.
 
10:22 PM
@BenjaminGruenbaum Command slidepoop learned
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum It's cool
 
!!/forget gayclubs
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum Command gayclubs forgotten.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum Command gayclubs learned
 
10:22 PM
@BenjaminGruenbaum I mean that as in it's alright :P
 
!!/tobacconist
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum Drop your panties sir William, I can not wait till' lunchtime
 
@Shmiddty I know that objects are a property and a value. Also have read that functions and almost everything is object in Javascript. But functions aren't just properties and values, they contain blocks of code. so how are they objects?
 
@Sotiris - you got a question about javascript objects? maybe something less vague
 
!!/slidepoop
 
I want it to quote the post inline. Is that a thing?
 
@Shmiddty I don't think so, unless there is a way to invoke a command without pinging the user who asked for it. @Zirak is it possible?
 
Hy all :) Just want to ask one question about "this" keyword.
In c#/java, when calling methodY from methodX you just need to write methodY() (which is same as this.methodY()), is it same thing with javascript?
 
@Sotiris - objects have a block of code. in JS if you make a function, it treats it as its own object where that function is sorta the constructor function
 
@Srle @Srle JS is more powerful
 
10:26 PM
it just joins all these concepts together
 
@Srle You can set what 'this' refers to yourself
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum Only built-in commands have that option
 
@Zirak build in slidepoop :)?
@Srle unless in a constructor function invoked by 'new', 'this' refers to the calling object. You can change that using .call, .bind or .apply
 
user1125394
what is the ratio of messages about programming here? ;)
 
var foo = {
    methodY:function(){
        console.log('bar');
    },
    methodX:function(){
        this.methodY();
    },
}
 
@crl Java--
 
@Srle - if im not mistaken using this inside of a function in JS will reference the function its self. as if the function was a constructor function for the object
but im probably wrong, i dont use thismuch in JS
 
@PimpTrizkit wrong
 
Someone should try to beat my JS score here: golf.shinh.org/p.rb?infinite+vortex
It shouldn't be too hard.
 
I never use "this"
 
10:31 PM
however, i know you can do this : function test() { test.x = 42; }
 
!!> String.prototype.foo = function(){return this + " bar!"}; "foo".foo();
 
@Jan-StefanJanetzky "foo bar!"
 
@Jan-StefanJanetzky - great example of how confusing JS can be... but also... how powerful it is
 
!!> 1+1;
 
@TemporaryNickName 2
 
10:36 PM
!!> 1.0 + 2.0 !== 3.0;
 
@TemporaryNickName true
@TemporaryNickName false
@MatthewDean Welcome to the JavaScript chat! Please review the room pseudo-rules. Please don't ask if you can ask or if anyone's around; just ask your question, and if anyone's free and interested they'll help.
 
"tolerated" is mispelled as "tolorated" in the rules
Anyway, why is my hanging GET being cancelled by Chrome after 1.5 hours?
 
!!> "Fair Diceroll: " + ((Math.random()*6|0)+1)
 
@Jan-StefanJanetzky "Fair Diceroll: 3"
 
1.5 hours? seems like a long time to let a get hang... i would suppose its just timing out
 
10:39 PM
@MatthewDean Thanks, will be corrected
 
I'm using EventSource. Neither the 'close' nor the 'error' events are firing but the Network tab is showing that the request was cancelled.
I would expect the close event to fire if the response is cancelled or fails.
 
does it act the same in FF?
 
I am not writing this for Firefox, so it doesn't matter to me.
 
I'm going to sleep, good night :)
 
@Darkyen dl.dropbox.com/u/4451890/static/pong.htm the AI is yet tooo hard and the score shall be displayed on top of the battlefield. still.. not 2k and only 65 lines :D
 
10:43 PM
i love Chrome, but recently ive found problems that it has that FF doesnt
 
i ganna go to bed too now. good night everyone.
 
Might it have something to do with chunking? The spec said "HTTP chunking can have unexpected negative effects on the reliability of this protocol"
But I don't really know what the alternative to chunking is...
 
since no one else (who is more educated at JS) is helping, i can only continue to speculate.... i speculate that its just how chrome kills a hanging get
ive found Chrome to not be fully compliant
 
Okay. But how would I not use chunking with a hanging GET?
I can't give the response a content-length header because then the client will close the connection at that point..
 
ya, thats above my pay grade... sorry
might wanna start a question on SO
thats also why i test with FF and Chrome side by side... so i can see what the differences are and if the problem is Chrome based or not
 
10:52 PM
@PimpTrizkit if you're so sure chrome has issues, why not fix them? It's open source.
 
haha, well, as ive mentioned... im learning here... not good enough for that. But its not that ive noticed actual problems... just that some things are just not there... like Chrome (unless its recently changed) doesnt fully implement HTML5
and in some situations. it just acts different
 
No one fully implements HTML5
2
 
well, FF seems to implement it more
 
It's an evolving spec, one that Chrome is highly involved in developing
Bullshit
 
10:53 PM
FF doesn't even have the date input
 
I doubt FF has more HTML5 features
 
a poor workman blames chrome
 
hey, i didnt say it was perfect... but take my shitty site for example... in FF you get the shading.. and Chrome, its not implemented.. for example
 
Chrome is 75 points ahead of FF
 
10:54 PM
Shading?
 
Most Some special form features aren't available in FF
 
50 bucks says you just used the wrong prefixes
 
does FF have the shadow dom yet?
 
That's what I was thinking
 
visit www.pimptrizkit.com in both FF and Chrome
 
10:55 PM
He must have used -moz and assumed that was the normal one
 
So no one knows how to do a text/event-stream without chunking?
 
ok, im eating my own words
its been fixed
 
Hahaha
 
And also, you use tables in your site, your argument is invalid.
2
 
i hate vendor prefixes
 
10:56 PM
no, i wasnt using -moz
 
@David PrefixFree.js
 
I feel like deleting stackoverflow.com/questions/10929711/… since OP is an a-hole and won't do as much as comment on it :(
Oh well, going to sleep for realz
also
!!/slidepoop
 
background-image:linear-gradient(to top, #999999 0%, #FFFFFF 75%) used to not work in Chrome but did in FF.. i guess they finally added it
 
I'm pretty sure linear-gradient has been around for long
 
10:59 PM
ya, thats what i thought as well... but, for a while... that gradient only worked in FF
 
I think looping small piece of cropped gradient image in background is easier and saves some memory (it's just my thought)
 
ok here is a difference.... the shadow text behind the words on my site... in FF is actually a shadow (gradient) but in Chrome its just 1px ... no gradient
 
I'm on mobile, so I can't really help
 
for example .... look at the colored "please donate" words
 
Mar 13 at 1:40, by rlemon
(Random Fact, when rlemon was 13 he pooped on a slide. he isn't proud of it, but he felt it was time to confess. I'm sorry slide.)
 
11:02 PM
in FF they are foggy (as expected) in Chrome they arent
well, i guess they are a little.. if i look close enough... hard to tell.. but in FF its obvious
this is interesting tho, when i wrote that site... none of that stuff was working in Chrome
 
When was that?
 
So... the format is text-shadow:<x-off> <y-off> <blur> <color>; With a blur of zero, what do you expect?
 
about 8-10 months ago
which i know is forever to a computer
lol
 
ok have a good weekend all
 
actually the code is text-shadow: 0.1em 0.1em 0.0em black,0.2em 0.5em 0.1em #FF0000,-0.3em 0.1em 0.1em yellow,0.4em -0.3em 0.1em #0000FF;
the actual black shadow for the word "please donate" is not supposed to be blurred
but the three colors (red,blue,yellow) are
 
11:09 PM
I ask in wrong way my last question, so i will reformulated question.
In c#/java, when calling methodY from methodX you just need to write methodY() (which is same as this.methodY()), does javascript also automatically add "this" keyword in front of attributes, methods. (regardless where this refer to)
 
uh, yes? test it! and dont worry about using this...lol it will find the function
 
@Srle No, because then it'll be ambiguous.
 
what on earth are you talking about trizkit?
 
something on mars
 
Java/C# functions can only be encapsulated my methods (anonymous functions don't count here). In js, there may be several sources for this variable, and greater ambiguity.
 
11:12 PM
Does it worth to create sprite-sheet (like in game) for website images? (buttons and etc)
 
@Zirak thanks a lot:)
I think Trizkit is only sarcastic :D
 
//for instance
var foo = 4;
var obj = {
    foo : 5,
    bar : function () {
        foo = 6; //what'll happen? how can I distinguish the outer foo from the ineer foo
    }
};
That's why the with statement is considered volatile
Especially because js objects are dynamic, so in bar you can do this.qux = 7, and there're implied globals, so qux = 7 is also valid!
...in short, no.
 
thanks again
 
Enjoy
 
@TemporaryNickName yes it usually is worth it.
 
11:16 PM
But wouldn't processing with JS cost more memory than just loading a single image? (+ you can cache these too)
 
you generally don't process with javascript, you use background-image css stuff
and background-position
 
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!!should I pull an all-nighter or get some sleep?
 
@Zirak get some sleep
 
11:21 PM
!!are you sure?
 
@Zirak Nuh-uh
 
So, in effect...he told me to pull an all-nighter!
I happen to have popcorn. oohhh, what movie what movie what movie...
 
lol, 1channel.ch FTW
 
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I won't re-watch Evangelion yet. I can do a Daria marathon or watch Stripes or Matrix or or
 
11:24 PM
Daria? lol
seen Limitless?
i thought that was a fun movie
 
Daria is an American animated television series created by Glenn Eichler and Susie Lewis Lynn for MTV. The series focuses on Daria Morgendorffer, a smart, acerbic, and somewhat misanthropic teenage girl who observes the world around her. The show is set in the fictional suburban American town of Lawndale and is a satire of high school life, and full of allusions to and criticisms of popular culture and social classes. Daria is a spin-off of Mike Judge's animated Beavis and Butt-head series, in which Daria appeared as a recurring character. The series was originally broadcast from 1997...
 
So.. Why is it that I don't want to learn php ?
 
oh, ya.. i remeber daria now
never watch it tho
its good?
 
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@BenjaminGruenbaum Look at the monster you've created
 
11:31 PM
Lol, it'll be easier after it remembers everyone.
 
@Nelson Welcome to the JavaScript chat! Please review the room pseudo-rules. Please don't ask if you can ask or if anyone's around; just ask your question, and if anyone's free and interested they'll help.
 
Also, you can edit the message instead of adding a new one if two or more users join in a short time-span
 
There's still no API (on the bot) for editing. It's a bitch.
I can't figure out a decent system
What could be cool is statistics. Since the bot is always an observer, it can see patterns; times of new user influx for instance
 
Anyway, I'm on my phone, ttyl
 
CoffeeScript sucks
 
11:40 PM
am i going to have to make another pull request to remove that one?
 
@david, don't worry I'm pretty sure it says something positive about CoffeeScript too.
 

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