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7:00 PM
@Incognito Where?
 
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@david link me they fit on my cherry switches?
 
Guys... this is why I can't ever leave the room or my desk... I'm so lost in this conversation right now
 
creating a working usb keyboard is super easy (even works with µCs which do not have hardware usb support).. so it would just be manufacturing the keys etc
 
I try to read the transcript but by the time i'm done there are 5 more pages to read
 
7:00 PM
yeah i think they're meant for cherry
 
MakeyMakey @ThiefMaster
 
fucking terrible interface though
all i want is 'tro' for escape, then a bunch of alternating 'lol' and 'olo's
and maybe an 'aieeeeee' for capslock
 
@david Caps lock should be named "RAGE"
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum Re-map it, become a hipster.
 
7:02 PM
YellType is a better name for capslock
 
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canadians .. calling capslock YellType
 
Turboboost
 
lol
I was gonna say, ctrl and alt are now X and Y (gaming)
 
Decided to try GitHub for Windows. Turns out it automatically adds an SSH key to my account. Not sure how to feel about that.
 
anyone own a logitech g19?
any good?
worth the $170?
 
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7:04 PM
no
 
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not mechanical
 
^
 
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has seperate charger
 
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wtf
 
really?
it looks so bauce
:(
 
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7:05 PM
yeah
 
yeah :? I wanted one as well
 
user2157210
you need to put in a fucking power supply for it
 
more keyboards need screens
 
@RyanKinal GitHub for windows got uninstalled so fast :P
 
user2157210
keys wear down so fast
 
7:05 PM
@Loktar No, you shouldn't look at your keyboard when using it
 
user2157210
rubberdome ..
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum it could be nice for random display things
 
user2157210
get some lcd display hook up to pc
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum Yeah, I'm skeptical. But it will be good to know it if my workplace ends up switching from Kiln/Mercurial to GitHub/Git.
 
user2157210
have own display
 
7:06 PM
 
@Loktar I know it's 'nice' but in practice it only hurts productivity, it makes you look at places you shouldn't be looking at to begin with
 
but he looks so happy!
 
user2157210
the headset sucks
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum Im talking about gaming only :P
 
user2157210
i broke this one in 2 month
 
7:06 PM
what no that headset is badass!
 
user2157210
no worst sound quality ever
 
that headset has lasted me longer than any other I've ever owned
I've had the total opposite experience
 
the detached keypad looks nice. I like the extended wrist support
 
its been great, great sound quality
 
user2157210
compared to some more hifi like headsets
 
7:07 PM
@rlemon I bought one of those..
it just collects dust
 
user2157210
the soundquality sucks
 
@RyanKinal git add (add to git), git commit (commit changes), git. Really complicated :P Apart from that all you need is merging and branching which takes 1 hour to learn well enough to use, and how different servers react (for example, setting up a central repository, etc)
 
user2157210
and the 5.1 sound or whatever it has is retarded
 
I have this keyboard
 
user1125394
<div>I really like to not close tags
 
7:07 PM
so the headphones are alright (so long as I don't get a Lemon) but the keyboard is not worth it and the detached keypad is gimmick?
 
I heard that one has issues with the space bar @Shmiddty
 
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@Shmiddty i got the ultimate stealth version of it
 
like catching on the left alt
 
@Nexxpresso How much is that headset?
 
user2157210
@BenjaminGruenbaum 130?
 
7:08 PM
@Loktar I haven't had any problems
 
$80, wireless is like $130
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum Oh, I agree. I use git on the CLI every day. But my coworkers aren't exactly CLI kinds of people.
 
@Nexxpresso That's enough to actually but something half-decent
@RyanKinal I know your pain :/
 
I was so tempted to buy the Diablo headset
 
user1125394
I have a screen for this price
 
user2157210
7:08 PM
@BenjaminGruenbaum it is which i did afterwards
 
only because it looked cool
 
i have 2 leopolds, one brown for work, one red for games
 
heh myself and all my friends have those headphones and they are fucking amazing :P idc what you say! :P
 
my gf hates the mechanical keys, I just call her a noob
 
user2157210
I so want a Optimus Maximus
 
7:08 PM
The DasKeyboard is really nice, ignore the haters.
 
user2157210
daskeyboard is fine
 
@Nexxpresso x) , I recently got a K701 which I really like, before that had ATH900 which were also good, before those Grado SR-80 which are much less 130$ and are much better for the price
 
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@BenjaminGruenbaum using m-50s
 
Im still using a saitek keyboard
 
The apple wred keyboard is really nice.
 
7:09 PM
thing wont die
 
My IBM Model-M has some glitch with the PS/2->USB connector where some keys screw up :(
 
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@BenjaminGruenbaum tho i pay german prices about 200 $ converted
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum what do you use for a mic?
 
user2157210
for simple m50s
 
@Nexxpresso Nice, I used to love my ATH900s
 
7:10 PM
And no, I'm not on it right now...
 
Before they broke :(
 
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argh :(
 
I have a MX5500 and a Wave Pro Duo set. idk which I like better :/
 
I actually picked up a 4$ keyboard at some shop, it's really good.
 
no mic, no camera :(
 
7:11 PM
I have to have a mic
since I play with friends most nights
 
@Loktar I don't really need a mic, never really got what that's used for anyway... If I want to skype I have a pair of USB headphones I can use, but I usually use my laptop. I'm mostly an SC2 player
 
but none of my games allow mic support, I don't play FPS
 
user2157210
@Incognito but you got a model m
 
user2157210
FIX IT
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum don't you play sc2 with friends :?
 
7:11 PM
@Nexxpresso I have a model M from ages ago.
 
hard to coordinate anything w/o a mic
 
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@Incognito so?
 
I'm using this at work, it's semi-quiet:

http://www.123inkcartridges.ca/computer-and-part/KBD_GW_KU_0447V.html
 
@rlemon we use Mumble
 
user2157210
i take it if you do not need it
 
7:12 PM
@Loktar I do, also, I type faster than I talk :P
 
@Loktar even then, what am I going to do? Mic it up with Amaan while we play awesomenauts?
 
user2157210
would love to have an old model m
 
@Nexxpresso I didn't buy it :p. It's also missing a few letter caps for the buttons... which doesn't make a big difference to me
 
otherwise I don't play many team games :/
 
oh you non hardcore pc gamers :P
 
7:12 PM
Diablo, but I play with the GF and she sits next to me :P mic would be overkill
 
yeah
 
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@Loktar i have my sennheiser headset for gaming
 
even when I play by myself I yell at people
esp in tf2
 
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yeah after playing alot of teamgames
 
so do I! but why do I need a mic to rage on a NPC
 
7:13 PM
I really don't mind the sound I get when gaming, the sound I get when listening to music is much more important to me since I usually hear music when programming
 
user2157210
you start to blame in single player
 
I wanna webcam/mic combo for skype - but I don't think i'll get a headset.
 
@rlemon yeah most webcams combo now
I got a nice MS one a few months back
 
headset is much better
 
was like $60-ish
 
7:14 PM
@rlemon Doing some sidework on camgirl sites?
 
user2157210
@rlemon buy samsung tv
 
@ThiefMaster headset for skype?
 
Why headset in the first place? Most laptops have decent mics and webcams for using skype
 
@Nexxpresso hrmm, $30 webcam or $1300 tv.... tough choice..
 
(If for skype and not gaming)
 
7:14 PM
@BenjaminGruenbaum why assume I use a laptop
 
builtin laptop mics suck - people hear the fan etc.
 
I fucking hate laptops
 
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@rlemon you can voice control
 
user2157210
the tv
 
user2157210
choice made easy
 
7:15 PM
I always want to kill people I'm skyping with when I hear their laptop and them typing all the time
 
@rlemon I need a laptop, I don't develop on it
 
I want to like laptops.. but im always at home
 
@Nexxpresso eh, I don't have cable. I don't watch much TV aside from netflix and I like to game while doing so..
 
And if you have music playing while skyping it's even worse
 
Ive used my chrome book for 2 hours lol
 
7:15 PM
@Loktar same, home or work.
I don't even use my tablet
 
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@rlemon they have netflix app
 
yeah same here
 
it started collecting dust after like 2 weeks
 
haha I have 2 tablets!
 
I don't own a tablet, just got a slim laptop
 
7:15 PM
Nexus 7, and the Samsung Galaxy 10
 
@Nexxpresso but then what? Are you not getting my point that I don't need a TV
 
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i have about 7 tablets at work ..
 
the nexus is my alarm clock
 
I'm not a big TV guy
 
besides that, i don't want people walking in listen to whoever i'm talking to - so another reason for a headset
 
user2157210
7:16 PM
not even using one lol
 
@ThiefMaster yea I live alone :P
 
yeah tablets are kind of odd
Ill use it to watch a movie while I run on the treadmill
 
(obviously not a big deal if you live alone or with your SO, but at work or when living with family, parents, etc? eww)
 
but for productivity they are worthless imo
 
@rlemon I use my tablet on the train to read comic books
 
7:16 PM
@ThiefMaster I was referring to using headphones with the built in mic and webcam, not using the built in speakers
 
I suppose I might change my outlook if my situation changes, but as of right now I am never without a desktop and privacy is not a concern. And I drive to entertainment during public trans is not an issue either.
 
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so i have an ipad on which i should develope an app for but boss didnt want to buy a mac?
 
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i was like ok
 
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and like 5 or 6 different android tablets
 
ah, then there's still the typing noise
 
7:17 PM
@rlemon Big TVs are stupid until they get better resolution. It's pretty stupid that my 13" laptop and 32" TV have the same resolution
 
yeah tahts why I bought my tablets @Nexxpresso
2 of my kids have tablets too
 
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@Loktar i bought my private ipad just for one reason
 
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so i can play games while taking a shit
 
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.
 
7:17 PM
@BenjaminGruenbaum But there's something about 110 inches of projected television that improves immersion.
 
^ my kids tablets kicks ass
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum I am looking at a 52" flat screen for ~$500, but I don't know how much use it will get. The TV in the living room only gets used when i'm working out. and then i'm watching TNG dvds
 
has a tegra 3 even
 
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@Loktar mine has an apple on the back
 
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i win by default
 
7:18 PM
apples rot, androids are forever.
 
@Loktar we bought my nephew (6yo) a samsung tab. Can't remember which.. but it was like $329 or something
he draws pictures and plays angry birds
 
@Shmiddty Only if accompanied by really good sound, which usually costs much more than the projector itself
 
@rlemon yeah these were like $250 pretty nice specs, better than the kindle fire
cool thing is the front end is designed for kids so I control what they do/see on the tablet
 
user2157210
@BenjaminGruenbaum ah sound what a lovely thing to talk about
 
that cover looks nice and robust. did it come with it(I assume) if not where can I get one :P
 
user2157210
7:19 PM
hate me but i still want those b&w diamonds
 
yeah it came with it
you can pick up extras though they are like $5 or so
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum I used to work for a satellite company and a client didn't pay so we took his Zenith projector
 
@Nexxpresso Good luck with that :P Aren't those like 15000$ or something?
 
like, hard core projector.
 
7:20 PM
@rlemon hahaha, 'took'
 
they are huge!
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum The sound helps, but is not necessary. You can get away with lower quality audio. That said, I totally need an audio upgrade
 
LOL damn
 
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@BenjaminGruenbaum yeah if not even more
 
like 2 feet wide.
 
7:20 PM
how much are bulbs for those things?
 
going to the cinema will be cheaper :p
 
like $3k each
but we had it for like 6 years and never had to replace a bulb
guy owed us 10 grand and didn't pay
 
@ThiefMaster That's like coming to Vegas in a 10,000$ car and then going home in a 100,000$ bus XD
 
(I was working for my step father, so when I say 'we' kept it I meant he did and I got to enjoy it)
Porn is WAY BETTER life sized
 
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7:22 PM
such a dream setup
 
@Nexxpresso but where do you sit?
 
@rlemon In interactive 3D. With tactile feedback.
 
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@Shmiddty exactly in the stereo triangle of course
 
!!/live
@rlemon what's up with the bot?
!!> 1+1
 
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@BenjaminGruenbaum those speakers are needed.
 
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7:24 PM
i mean i cant afford them
 
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but I want them
 
@Nexxpresso I feel like they're at least $5kUSD each
but not being an audiophile, I have no clue
 
user2157210
they are 24kusd/pair
 
oh that's it?
 
@Nexxpresso I have pretty cheap bose speakers (got them for a really good price (20%) too). I usually hear with my headpohones :)
 
user2157210
7:25 PM
@BenjaminGruenbaum bose??
 
Yeah, I know :/ :P
I got them really cheap, and it was a good price-per-value. Wouldn't touch them otherwise :P
 
user2157210
i got some german cantons
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum shit, yea remember me bitching about my isp? forgot to refresh the bot
 
user2157210
nothing fancy
 
!!/refresh
 
7:26 PM
!!/info
 
@rlemon I awoke on Thu, 28 Mar 2013 19:26:12 GMT (that's about 9 seconds ago), learned 75 commands
 
since you guys know about this sort of thing. I want some medium-good quality speakers that are camouflaged/don't look like speakers
 
no refresh won't work. you have to manually refresh the browser.
 
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@Shmiddty they are one of the cheaper ones :D
 
know when you get a network error and the chat gives you that dumb popup? for some reason that borks the bot
@Loktar best thing I owned when I was younger for gaming (racing and goldeneye) was TV goggles/glasses
they had their own sound as well.. was amazing
cept you felt like you would need to turn your head to look around or turn your body. so to the observer you were just twitching a lot
 
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7:28 PM
@Shmiddty how much do you want to pay?
 
@Shmiddty you give me the requirements and I can build you some. Although I'm less good with the speakers and more about the amplifiers
4 channel 35W amp can be built for like ~$20
 
user2157210
@rlemon well if you can get good drivers
 
drivers? who needs drivers.
 
user2157210
to build a fucking speaker?
 
7:32 PM
ohh I thought you were talking about the amp
yea, tbh I made speakers in HS... now i'm more about the amps
 
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@rlemon i normaly buy things im not the guy to build it on his own
 
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so i feel some jealousy for you being able to do so
 
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:(
 
not mine, but based on the same concepts.
you can get basic schematics from there and then fab your own for a 1/4 their price
 
user2157210
7:34 PM
but can that power my hifi speakers?
 
well mines 35W (based on transformer size)
larger transformers will just cost more
mines real ugly (the one I use for my computer) but I only needed 2 channel and shoved the entire thing into a gutted PSU
 
user2157210
35w rms at 8?
 
I would have to test that.. but iirc yes. but dude, if you understand the audio stuff you can tweak the circuit and components to output just about anything
I get one of the engineers from my work to help work things out (i'm not that good... yet)
 
Interesting question
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Q: Can I transform an HTML select to "regular text" using CSS?

Dylan KlomparensI have a drop down box on a web page, using the HTML5 <select> tag. There are times where I want to make it "read only", that is display it as text only. For example: Sometimes I want it to be "read/write": And other times I want it to be "read only": I would prefer not to use the "d...

 
@Nexxpresso get your feet wet with a chipamp chipamp.com/lm3886-amplifier-kit
well, end of day (early day) be on later.
 
Can I score some help with debugging some js. I just learned about breaking points and am trying to wrap my head around them.
 
@rlemon I might be interested in that.
@Nexxpresso Let's conservatively say I'm willing to drop $3k on a good system (including receiver)
 
@ThiefMaster Nice! I think there's a FF browser-specific flag for it too iirc
 
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@Shmiddty ah $3k is enough to bring you into the world of sound
 
hey @SimonSarris
 
user2157210
7:45 PM
we have to consider that you take design as tier one criteria?
 
I'm interested in wireless speakers, but I understand they have some delay?
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum: I tried -moz-appearance: none; but it didn't hide the dropdown arrow
 
user2157210
@Shmiddty just new things or used too?
 
@Nexxpresso I'm fine with used if it's in good condition
 
@ThiefMaster In that case you should probably edit your answer to say it is not possible in Firefox
 
7:47 PM
I've actually got some modern side tables that have speakers
 
user2157210
you got tables with speakers?
 
side tables, they have drawers. i put video games in them
 
user2157210
and they have speakers
 
yes
 
user2157210
what music do you listen to?
 
7:49 PM
all kinds of stuff
 
are the speakers as crappy as the ones usually built into monitors?
 
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@Shmiddty TBH you will have to test listen speakers
 
no, but I can't really speak to their quality. they sound good to me
they are most likely 40+ years old though
 
ah.. then they are probably not bad - i doubt anyone even considered putting crappy speakers in a piece of furniture 40 years ago
 
user2157210
@Shmiddty if i would be in your situation i would get some used b&w diamond series
 
user2157210
7:53 PM
but thats because i love those speakers
 
I want something a little more subtle/hidden
 
user2157210
get the small 805ers
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum I came up with one way
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A: Can I transform an HTML select to "regular text" using CSS?

Simon SarrisYes, use the CSS: select { appearance: none; -webkit-appearance: none; -moz-appearance: none; border: none; /* needed for Firefox: */ overflow:hidden; width: 120%; } example: http://jsfiddle.net/eG3dS/ Because of the "needed for Firefox" section, you will need to...

it works in Firefox, but is sorta hackish
then again the -appearance is hackish too :D
 
The idea is that you wouldn't immediately recognize them as speakers.

I was thinking something like a bench with hidden speakers for front/front-left/front-right channels
 
aaaand @ThiefMaster beat me to half of the chase
 
7:56 PM
hah nice @SimonSarris
 
user2157210
you want surround sound?
 
yes
 
user2157210
ah
 
whats up @Loktar :D
 
user2157210
get some speaker bar
 
user2157210
7:57 PM
you can pretty much hide this
 
not much, had no idea you could hide a drop down like that
just got done writing up an answer.. and the dude deletes his question
facepalm
 
@SimonSarris: too lazy to test it, but does that 120% hack work even when increasing/decreasing the zoom factor?
 

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