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5:00 PM
text-rendering css rule is flaky at best and shouldn't have been included in Bootstrap IMO
it's not ready
 
'Lemon' text not showing full is 1st.
bye @rlemon nice to meet you. good night.. catch u later.. good bye.
 
wow we have two abhishek now :<
@rlemon comment on the UI for that player ?
 
5:17 PM
@Abhishek thank god I thought maybe that was you and you got dumb all of a sudden
 
@rlemon lmao
 
its ok
 
so anybody knows where to even start
making a broadcasting software ? [using webkit]
 
what do you mean by broadcasting software
looks like a online flash free mp3 player to me
 
well my girl friend wants to be able to play music
for radio [ radio server is shoutCast]
 
5:22 PM
Pro Tip: jsFiddle jsfiddle.net/rlemon/JQEhX
 
that player is just as a player :( which users tune in with
@rlemon it was on there originally lulz
 
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Q: Is it possible to play shoutcast internet radio streams with html5?

BlenderIs it possible to play shoutcast (or some) internet radio streams with html5? So I have next code: <html> <body> <audio src="http://shoutcast.internet-radio.org.uk:10272/" /> </body> </html> I save it as HTML page and start my browser (Google chrome 4.0.249.78, s...

 
not play :(
okay let me explain this very short and smart
Todo ::

Make a player that users can tune in with - Done

Make a broadcaster which djs / rjs can broadcast with - No clue where to start with :(
now see what my huge problem is :<
 
ok so you want to host the stream as well.
 
nope stream is hosted already
using a shoutcast server
 
5:27 PM
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Q: How to stream semi-live audio over internet

Thomas TempelmannI want to write something like Skype, i.e. I have a constant audio stream on one computer and then recompress it in a format that's suitable for a latent internet connection, receive it on the other end and play it. Let's also assume that the internet connection is fairly modern and fast, i.e. D...

so then what is your issue
getting the audio stream from the client to the shoutcast server?
 
yes
I can a player / processor ,equilizer and all using mozAudio or webAudio but i dont have a clue how the hell broacasting softwares work internally
 
Tip of the hat to another great 5 http://labs.qt.nokia.com/2012/04/03/qt-5-alpha/ congrats to the whole Qt team on this milestone. We got a great big convoy.
 
5:54 PM
posted on April 03, 2012

On 10th and 11th of May the second edition of Mobilism will take place in Amsterdam. Like last year, it will concentrate on all aspects of the mobile web. The Mobilism line-up is complete now. We have one more item to announce: a device/network API panel featuring representatives from W3C, PhoneGap, and Blue Via to discuss how web developers will get access to phone functionality such as the

 
6:06 PM
0
Q: CSS percentage widths and heights and resolution problems

Jinu J DI need my application run in multiple screen resolutions...For that i specified all the dimensions in % instead of px so that it will automatically resize....so....Which is more reliable ...specifying width,height ,margin etc in pixels or in percentage...?

 
in em
or using media-queries and setting up a responsive layout
 
@Gni33's link from earlier (jsfiddle.net/GNi33/4GKTC/embedded/result) totally rocks!
 
6:29 PM
haha thats cool
 
7:05 PM
finally i am upto something @rlemon
might aswell be called 'insanity' but i thought if i has to use node.js anyways why not just stream media using node.js itself :3
 
Im writing an app in node finally. Using express
 
user1385191
aaand back to digging up job ads
 
trying to decide on the view engine
 
i'm working on trying to convince my host that my webpage is not by any terms 'speedy'
 
lol
 
7:10 PM
is there any real benefit in using a view engine?
 
@Loktar i dont know
seriously its like um
 
looking at Jade and thinking ugh.. I really dont want to learn this
 
+1 @Loktar
i rather did it with jsdom
 
jsdom? Ill check that out
Ive used ejs once
 
yes
 
7:11 PM
it seemed ok too
 
view engine?
 
i dont really like view engines
jsdom is a DOM implementation on server
much like PHP's XMLDOM
 
like that
 
lol @phpDOM
 
@rlemon works :P
som1 even coded a jQuery port for that [yes people in the world are crazy idiots]
 
7:13 PM
there is your view engine :P JSON input
 
ohh yay I did put it on github
 
yeah I guess Im just getting old :?
I just want to write my html, as html :P
 
lol
 
jquery.hohli.com I took a shit today that wasn't this crappy.
@Loktar I really had no use for FragBuilder but the idea came to me..
 
7:15 PM
brb
going to read icecast source code
 
"Wait! What if I could represent my HTML as JSON and have it translated to the DOM"
 
lol yeah
nothing wrong with that I guess
 
don't have a use for it...
 
I just looked on dice to see how many jobs in the US list Jade
there were like 6
but its based on haml.. looks to see how many jobs have haml listed
 
lol
 
7:16 PM
@rlemon Yea, it kinda sucks.
What did you do?
Oh yea, hellau :D
 
no clue, just endless boot - finkled around in recovery (after an hour of trying to get into recovery) and fixed it.
was getting the android dude on his back withthe error symbol exploding out of his chest.
 
Ah, did you wiper the system and dalvik cache?
That generally helps.
 
wipe + cache === success + FFS now I have to set all this shit up again?!
 
Well, a data wipe will delete everything, sorta.
I should have told you I guess?
Ooops.
 
lol
it's all good.
I was freaking when it happened.
9 and a half hours without a phone... I was going insane.
 
AJ.
7:22 PM
do they use markdown in the chat too?
 
Yes sorta
 
AJ.
ah ok, nice - thanks.
haha, taking it back?
 
boooo
 
Nah, I'm just showing off. :P
o_O
 
AJ.
i think i know something
hmm, maybe not
this should work then
ok
 
user1385191
7:26 PM
ugh
 
user1385191
job ads ask for the moon
 
Yea ... I know
You gotta be 18, and have at least 30 years of experience in a particular field and lots of other stuff.
 
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7:40 PM
> Experience working in of ASP.NET MVC Framework
 
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
 
yeah man thats what most of the jobs around here are
 
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most of the crap I've read has been Ruby
 
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with Python and PHP thrown in
 
> Because PHP is such a crap , look at all the code we wrote with it. It is horrible. Lets use Ruby on Rails because, everyone says that it is webscale ans has activated records.
 
7:45 PM
@MattMcDonald I love when interviewers ask me if I have CC+ experience.
My answer to that, I doubt anyone has.
 
GGG
lol
 
does jsperf do some funkieness with throw
 
GGG
never heard that one before
 
it doesnt' seem to like FragBuilder
 
I hear that one a lot!
You wanna throw a FragBuilder at jsperf bro?
 
7:47 PM
lol what?
if they asked me if I had c++ exp Id ask why
 
@MattMcDonald , you will just have to look for your javasctipt/php gig
 
"uhh I thought this job was for web dev"
 
Well C++ would be OK but not CC+.
 
is that like double D ?
 
I know R rrrrrrrrrrr
 
7:48 PM
heh
 
then Arrrrgggg like a pirate for the next few minutes
 
lol waht wtf
cc+ lol
still though if they want me to have c++ exp.. id rather not work there
unless im doing game dev or something awesome
 
GGG
@tereško D is actually a cool CPP-like language
 
that was not what i meant
=P
 
GGG
7:50 PM
i know @_@
 
just making sure , this being an international chat and all
 
I figured that it is quite difficult for personnel placement firms to understand the difference between a web developer and a embed systems developer. For them both are the same.
That is the reason they keep spamming me with all kind of job offers I don't even really care about.
 
jsperf.com/fragbuilder-perf-test-2 @OctavianDamiean @Loktar
 
GGG
@OctavianDamiean same here
 
Booya Bitches!
 
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7:52 PM
I wonder how many companies actually realize that "Graphic Designer", "Web Designer" and "Web Developer" are three separate positions.
 
Isn't that all the same? I mean you type something on your keyboard and something then happens on the screen. All the same if you ask me.
 
GGG
idk what i wrote on careerbuilder 6or 7 years ago but it must have sounded good
 
headdesk
 
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designers are scared of keyboards
 
heh crazy @rlemon
here they think if you use a computer more than an hour a day your a programmer.
 
GGG
7:55 PM
i'm trying to find a good way to describe the difference between the kind of cowboy coder you get on odesk or elance, and the kind of developers that hang out here, for instance. I need a good analogy.
 
@Loktar if you look at the object passing in the string runs this
var generateFragmentFromString = function(HTMLstring) {
    var div = document.createElement("div"),
        tree = document.createDocumentFragment();
    div.innerHTML = HTMLstring;
    while (div.hasChildNodes()) {
        tree.appendChild(div.firstChild);
    }
    return tree;
};
 
I generally try to explain them the difference like this. If your teeth hurt you don't go to the proctologist, do you?
 
GGG
rofl
 
@OctavianDamiean Depends on why my teeth hurt.
 
Even then I highly doubt that your proctologist will be able to fix that.
 
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7:57 PM
@GGG evolution; monkey vs. human
 
man I need to write less graphical stuff
 
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all the monkey knows how to do is open bananas, climb around and throw fecal matter
 
GGG
i'd like to do it without being too diminutive somehow
 
rlemon['foot'].addEventListener('hurts', function(e) {
    if( e.target.fromReason == 'Kicking too much ass!' ) {
            proctologist.call();
    } else {
            doctor.call();
    }
}, false );
 
@rlemon There are two problems with that code.
 
7:59 PM
no $
and no $
 
First of all it won't work in IE8, just because well IE.
 
Any ideas on how to trigger tinymce editor events externally?
 
Then the second problem is that if you kick too much ass then you still won't go to your proctologist with your hurting foot. :P
 
	<!--[if lt IE 8]>
	<script src="//rlemonshim.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/rlemon.js"></script>
	<![endif]-->
 
GGG
i was thinking something like this: Imagine you are a very exclusive mechanic; your sole client operates a large fleet of rental cars. Your client is bought out by a larger company, and upon inspecting one of the vehicles, you notice that the engine is mounted on a wooden spool, the brake cable has been replaced with a coat hanger, fusebox contains a packet of ramen noodles and the electrical works entirely through black magic....
on like that for a few more paragraphs
 
8:00 PM
@rlemon ya know, there should be a rule, that you get kicked in nuts everytime you use fromAnything as variable property name
 
@tereško it's a property ;)
bazinga touche
What can I say, native IE Event objects contain fromReason property ???
 
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> Our WYSIWYG page editor is built in Javascript on top of Prototype.js and another custom framework developed in-house.
 
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yeesh
 
@MārisKiseovs , did you try with javascript ?
 
GGG
@MattMcDonald if you ever want to feel better about that WYSIWYG editor, just ping me, i'll paste some code that will make you feel 100 times better.
 
user1385191
8:03 PM
using Prototype.js is like using ColdFusion
 
@MārisKiseļovs stackoverflow.com/…
 
GGG
hah CF
 
damn .. forgot the Ļ
 
GGG
i'd trade the garbage i'm looking at for prototype.js any day
 
For completeness.
Oh hai, it is a Zirak. :)
 
8:07 PM
!!tell Room Hello!
 
I think Zirak munched the bot.
 
jsperf.com/fragbuilder-perf-test-2 i'm still impressed that my fromJSON Fragment builder is faster than the innerHTML 'hack'
@tereško thats right I said fromJSON...
protects balls
 
Well, now we can test that FragBuilder thoroughly and then we can hype it on Twitter and so on.
 
yup seems to be good
I need to figure out what to use it for :P
 
user1385191
it's a nice thought, but once again, it's the wrong tool for the job
 
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8:12 PM
I tried making something like it once before giving up
 
@MattMcDonald HTML is the ONLY tool for the job of.. well... being HTML
aside from that i'm trying to at least provide a light-weight sensible alternative to .innerHTML
client side templating is popular... whatever ones views on it are.
 
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that sensible alternative is called server-side processing
 
any of you guys done much <div> effects without a library ? like fade in/out etc
 
@MattMcDonald you don't have to argue with me, I agree. however, tell that to the rest of the world....
If you can't teach a man to fish, at least take the TNT out of his hands before he blows up a boat.
 
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the problem is one of coverage
 
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8:16 PM
you can make something truly dynamic that parses attributes, etc.
 
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but it's just so massively prone to error
 
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otherwise you'd have to do a ton of hard-coding
 
lol that image on the right is soo true
 
btw , i need something for detecting memory-leaks in browserside javascript
can anyone suggest anything for it ?
 
when it hangs u have a leak
 
8:17 PM
I'd say the Profiles tab of Chromium's developer tools, however I've never used it.
 
no , i mean 10x refresh and firefox has taken 2GB+ ram
 
@tereško what OS
 
Hmm, can't you take a snapshot of the heap after each refresh and compare them?
 
I vaguely remember VS2008 shipped with an inspector tool that allowed for that.
BAM
you got 14 days to figure out your issues
dam, didn't read .net
 
8:20 PM
@rlemon , windows
 
Oh, you're on Firefox?
 
and IE has a memory leak detector as well... dunno if you wanna test it in ie
hahaha the ie link produced this blog.outofhanwell.com
IE one is called 'Drip'
 
Guys is my question poorly worded: stackoverflow.com/questions/10000628/…
 
@tereško I figured browsers have a memory cap, if that is not reached they don't free memory at all, so it seems there is a leak if it isn't
2 GB seems a little much though
 
8:22 PM
it was difficult to word what i was getting at =/
 
I'm talking about this one @tereško
I'm sure you know that though.
 
@Dave not worded well at all. I get what you mean, but it's poor
 
damn
i edited it 4 times to try word it better =/
 
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"C++"…"calculus and linear algebra" (EA "front-end" job posting)
 
EA as in Electronic Arts?
 
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8:24 PM
yep
 
if they put on a sports title to code
its a simple copy paste every year
 
@Dave so you want [[x:1, y:1, h:2, w:2], [x:5, y:5,h:2,w:2]] to be [x:[1,2,5,6], y:[1,2,5,6]]
 
Sounds like physics engine stuff.
 
no @rlemon - what is 5 6 coming from ?
 
8:26 PM
because I put a second point in my data.
[[x:1, y:1, h:2, w:2], [x:5, y:5,h:2,w:2]]
 
use the first object as example so it would be:

x1,y1,x2,y2,x2,y1,x1,y2
all those coords would be taken because object at 1:1 spans 2 by 2 coords
 
dude, that is what my first post says
 
where :S
 
[[x:1, y:1, h:2, w:2], [x:5, y:5,h:2,w:2]] to be [x:[1,2,5,6], y:[1,2,5,6]]
x:1, y:1 with h and w of 2 == x1, x2, y1, y2 or x:[1,2] y:[1,2]
now do the same with the second subarray
push the results to the first returned array
I'm just representing my data a little differently. makes more sense to me
 
im not following how x:2 y:2 would exist in the structure
 
8:30 PM
BECAUSE ITS TWO WIDE LIKE YOU SPECIFIED
 
would it not need to be:
[0][x] = 2
[0][y] = 2
 
no, if a chord is x:1, y:1 and the point your plotting takes up two points on the graph you're adding an additional point in each axis.
x:1 takes up x:1 and x:2
> So the idea im trying to do is create an array of x:y grids that are "occupied". But looping such data so the occupied tiles would there for be:
 
hmm
ok yeh i think i understand the structure u shown now
just trying to imagine in my head how i would check the array on x or y to see if one of them is occupied given u have to use array position
 
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oh look; another EA "web" job looking to exploit someone into programming their games
 
@MattMcDonald there's nothing wrong with web games
 
user1385191
@Raynos EA is a console game company
 
user1385191
they're listing C++ all over "web" and "front-end" developer ads
 
will take a read :) thanks
 
user1385191
C++ is the de-facto language for console games
 
user1385191
read between the lines
 
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8:55 PM
> Our web client currently uses Sproutcore, and experience with a client-side js framework (Backbone, Ember.js, Ext JS, etc..) would be ideal.
 
user1385191
flying spaghetti monster have mercy
 
:O not jquery.. holy balls
 
user1385191
all four of those are exponentially worse
 
user1385191
well, Backbone isn't necessarily horrible so I'll give it a pass
 
9:46 PM
It Schrödingers NyanCat!
It's alive... or... not... or it is... or
 
trollolol! :D
 
If anyone feels like helping a burnt out head coming up with a final solution to his design: stackoverflow.com/questions/10001681/…
 
 
1 hour later…
10:56 PM
hello pikachoooooo
 
anyone here?
 
11:18 PM
noobs everywhere ;_;
What has my JS come to, noobs why you no go into black hole
 
??
what's wrong with being new to a programming language
 
11:48 PM
@Raynos I agree so annoying. haha
<-- noob
 

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