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3:00 PM
Basically just seeing when posts get the most views
 
You think I want to learn 5 different ways to approximate the root of an equation?
 
@rlemon I don't think you do
But I think an update to Chrome should bring WebRTC to mobile too
 
@AmaanCheval I WANT IT ON FIREFUX
 
well .... Chrome mobile is still 18... and it's not showing an update for it
 
once we get firefox , fuck I.E.
 
3:02 PM
Shouldn't take too long
 
@AmaanCheval for IE ?
hell yes lol
 
For FF
 
Figures, it's about time for them to start copying the "rapid release" feature
 
yeah but the rapidity is 2013 and 2014
windows 9 in 2014
 
3:04 PM
by then we'll be on like Chrome 60
 
yeah at least
 
hey, firefox did it, after copying chrome. Safari is going to start numbering like that too after IE does i bet
 
@rlemon if it was like IE 8 and 6
then we would off had
Chrome over 9000 in fronta ie 12
 
..... 22 years into the future Google realizes it's product versions are too large (growing into the 10 digits) ... we are now forced to write Chrome 2e9.14.26.1980
 
That's cool
@rlemon Hahahaha
 
3:07 PM
some shit happened, you were not here... too bad. (really not a whole lot, just random stuff about random stuff and my browser sucks... ALL THE ROOMS ARE FULL!!!!) - mini -updates
 
@rlemon or how about timestamp ?
Chrome [ Date.now() ]
 
Hahahaha
This looks like a good place to work
 
i think they have an amazing horse
 
> We are growing (in numbers, not in height) – and we have been for over ten years
 
it must be width then.
 
3:14 PM
@ChadRuppert I believe the term is girth.
 
@ChadRuppert CharTec has the best "horse"
 
> An outstanding candidate will have experience with Prototypal inheritance and closures and an excellent understanding of DOM.
prototypal inheritance is overrated <<
 
Yo ROOM
shall i apply for wikimedia foundation ?
i felt working for em makes me feel alive :-/ and satisfactory :-\
 
Sure...?
 
dunno if i should apply (XD)
 
3:16 PM
Yeah, but at least they don't require you to know pretty much every library that exists
@Abhishek Why not?
Oh, wait. What about VosCast?
 
@AmaanCheval see now why nOT :P
how much wiki pays ? [except for infinite satisfaction ]
 
What's the worst that could happen? You get ignored?
 
Is it a position in India?
 
If that's a problem for you, get a thick skin.
 
@SomeKittens What?
 
3:17 PM
If @Abhishek applies.
 
Oh, @SomeKittens he already has a good job
 
Ah, I forget not everyone my age is an unemployed hacker.
 
@AmaanCheval i hope not
cause then i will have to do college >_>
aiight applying :D , worst is i can get ignored :D lol
 
@SomeKittens I'm unemployed :D
I dislike when people ignore applications. At least have the decency to decline
 
3:19 PM
I'm <hugeairquotes> employed </hugeairquotes>
 
But they probably get flooded with applications
@SomeKittens Haha, but just on a hiatus?
 
Most likely, I won't be going back
 
You've applied somewhere else, right?
The YC co-founder position?
 
Abhishek wasted all our time with some dumb chat website and then talked about working for a site that doesn't make any money.
@AmaanCheval Yeah, finding out about that tomorrow
 
Best of luck!
 
3:21 PM
At least, I think tomorrow (EST vs West cost time)
 
@SomeKittens Florian linked to the WebRTC chat website, by the way :p
 
Even if that doesn't work out, I might work for my friend's brother's company as well as starting my own thing.
Either way, I'll be co-founding something
 
Hah, cool
 
I just about want to call my works ISP and tell them we're not paying for this month.
o_O
timeouts when searching google..... not cool.
 
It's very meh
As you can see, I'm not the best man page writer
 
3:31 PM
@Zirak writing docs can be very boring
 
cumtrapz
 
Actually, that looks pretty good
 
I'm not that bored, I'm just annoyed that I can't intelligibly convey these technicalities
 
that is my favorite new function name
 
3:32 PM
0
Q: cumtrapz got an unexpected keyword argument 'initial'

user983302Here I found an example of using integrate.cumtrapz(), but it doesn't work for me - when I try to set initial=0 in y_int = integrate.cumtrapz(y, x, initial=0) I get an error TypeError: cumtrapz() got an unexpected keyword argument 'initial' What's the problem?

comtrapz
er cumtrapz
 
I like that there are actual examples. One of my biggest pet peeves with docs is that they tell me all the high level stuff but never what to do
 
arent we supposed to infer how to use them? that's what makes us professionals?
 
@Zirak
the sourceforge page is not responding but this might be helpful too you
 
Wow man, that's like, completely useless to my use-case.
Thanks though
 
-_-
 
Displaying isn't my problem
The github wiki pages are fine
I have trouble writing
 
I know, I was just annoying you
 
Specifically, technical writing
ah, then nice job
 
you smell like ring worms
 
3:37 PM
its the sluttiest of all methods.
 
1
Q: What rules govern the Windows 8 store appId? Are they persistent across versions/renames?

Simon SarrisThe MSDN page for CurrentApp.appId is here. In a typical application the property comes back in the format 00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000, and precisely that number if you're running an app that is not in the Windows store. Once in the Windows store, it gets a real number, and my question...

 
> Cumulative trapezoidal numerical integration
 
I have a feeling I won't get an answer for ~2 years :(
 
"Don't cum there! She'll trap you with her forever, man!"
 
@rlemon thats what it means. but its got to be the best method name ever.
 
3:39 PM
Hey guys... I'm having some trouble with SFTP permissions. I can't seem to figure out why a particular user can't overwrite files (via FileZilla SFTP). I've looked at permissions (tried 755, 765), and groups. Any other ideas?
 
anyone with titanium knowledge?
 
777 all things!
 
@rlemon I was thinking about it.
 
How would this change affect you? — Florian Margaine 1 min ago
:p
 
But... I don't want to
 
3:40 PM
g+rw should be enough however, so if that is not working then I would imagine there is another issue
 
It feels dirty :-P
 
@RyanKinal chown?
 
yea maybe ownership
 
@FlorianMargaine license checking
 
Florian__
 
3:41 PM
@Nezam Rlemon knows that
 
er ++
 
@SimonSarris answer in the comments
 
!!/tell nezam google titanium
 
@ChadRuppert You can edit messages.
 
3:41 PM
@ChadRuppert you're on a mac, used to windows, right?
 
@SomeKittens thats so kind of you//
 
I changed the entire directory's group to a group that the user is in. Do I have to change the owner?
 
@Florian I am on a mac, using windows. Just fatfingered
 
so long as the user is in the group
 
@RyanKinal if it's the group, you need 775
 
3:42 PM
@rlemon i just need to ask a simple query.. its been quite a time i am into dev titanium
 
group permissions changes are not taken into effect for the current user until he reloggs however
don't know if that is applicable to your case
 
@rlemon oh, good to know
 
Hmmm. Could be.
 
@rlemon have you worked on HTML based apps on titanium?
 
!!/learn no "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FOR THE LOVE OF PETE!!!! NOOOO!!!!!!"
@rlemon Command no learned
!!/tell Nezam no
@Nezam NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FOR THE LOVE OF PETE!!!! NOOOO!!!!!!
 
3:43 PM
rofl
 
!!/tell nezam google titanium html
 
Screw it... gonna "777 all the things"
 
lol
 
!!nuke 1 @rlemon YONIGGA
 
3:44 PM
@SomeKittens i hope you found this chat via google..
 
@FlorianMargaine Y U NO MAEK SENSE!? Could not understand nuke @rlemon 1 YONIGGA
 
WTF THAT SHIT DIDN'T WORK
 
@FlorianMargaine Y U NO MAEK SENSE!? Could not understand nuke 1 @rlemon YONIGGA
 
@rlemon I am over the beginning stuffs developed a number of apps..
 
there is a problem with the user then.
 
3:45 PM
@Nezam why are you pestering me man? obvious sarcasm is obvious.
 
PEBKAC
 
I quit. Gonna go live in a van by the river, and survive on other peoples' garbage.
3
 
so you're going to be a jQuery developer! o/
2
 
3:46 PM
Seriously... all the things are 777'd... and it still doesn't work.
And it's not just SFTP... when I try to vim as that user, it's read-only
 
Perhaps OS has locked the file(s)?
 
so you have a SFTP server and you want to give your users file access?
 
@rlemon SSH, but yes
 
Is it possible they're in use by a process?
 
can you successfully ssh into the box with the user?
 
3:48 PM
The strange thing is that they can create new files, but not modify old ones
@robjb I guess it's possible
 
cycle the server, see if the permission stick after a boot
 
Yeah... this is a live web server. Making beaucoup $$.
 
Troubleshooting guide:
1. Turn off the power
2. Turn the power back on
3. Did it work?
   3.1. "yes", Job well done!
   3.2. "no", well sucks to be you
 
@RyanKinal ls -l , who's the owner?
 
Owner is a different user (non-root)
 
3:51 PM
ls -la # see everything!
 
Can you paste what ls -l brings you? (only the relevant files, of course)
oh, and if they have insufficient access to the containing directory, that might be a problem
 
sudo chown -R user:group ./*
sudo chmod -R g+rw ./*
something like that has always worked for me
might have those commands all screwed up but you get the idea
 
Yeah, I've screwed around with groups and owners, and still nothing
-rwxrwxrwx+ 1 root ftp   3280 Sep  7 09:45 cosmo.html
^ balls
 
show us output of
stat file.you.can't.overwrite
and stat .
 
@RyanKinal chown ftp cosmo.html ?
 
3:56 PM
  File: `cosmo.html'
  Size: 3280            Blocks: 16         IO Block: 4096   regular file
Device: fd00h/64768d    Inode: 52002818    Links: 1
Access: (0777/-rwxrwxrwx)  Uid: (    0/    root)   Gid: (   50/     ftp)
Access: 2012-11-14 10:47:40.000000000 -0500
Modify: 2012-09-07 09:45:15.000000000 -0400
Change: 2012-11-14 10:55:11.000000000 -0500
 
@myInternet, Why are you such balls right now?!
 
  File: `.'
  Size: 4096            Blocks: 16         IO Block: 4096   directory
Device: fd00h/64768d    Inode: 7503915     Links: 16
Access: (0777/drwxrwxrwx)  Uid: (    0/    root)   Gid: (   50/     ftp)
Access: 2012-11-14 10:56:16.000000000 -0500
Modify: 2012-11-14 10:27:15.000000000 -0500
Change: 2012-11-14 10:55:11.000000000 -0500
 
and output of
id
 
Looks like root owns cosmo.html. Try the chown I submitted
 
uid=527(ftp9821) gid=50(ftp) groups=50(ftp),502(todd)
@Zirak But owners shouldn't matter, as long as groups are cool, right?
 
3:58 PM
i bet user can modify file using something like "echo test >cosmo.html", but can't remove
 
Maybe. I've had trouble like that with mounted HDDs before, and simply changing the owner fixed it (sorta)
 
I can't modify with vim
 
hey
 
if owner not you you can't remove file
 
can i do a search and replace in javascript
and replace things in the html source of a page
 
4:00 PM
@eicto That could make sense, then
 
$ sudo touch a
$ sudo chmod 0777 a
$ rm a
Permission denied
 
sigh
I didn't want to change the owner, but it looks like that's the only solution
Also, I have to admit that @Zirak (and @eicto) was right.
 
Elite Gamer. you can't but other people can.
 
neat. So you're not gonna turn into a jquery developer now?
 
Well... I use jQuery every day. But I hope I'm not a "jQuery developer"
 
4:03 PM
Do you write jQuery instead of javascript? <g>
 
INSTEAD!?!?! WHAT ARE YOU, A JQUERY DEVELOPER!?!?!
 
lol
Apparently you missed the grin
 
Nah, I got it. Was playing along :-D
 
woot
 
@eicto ... hohshit
 
4:05 PM
1 message moved to recycle bin
 
@rlemon why do ?
 
!!/tell @EliteGamer mdn regex
 
common people will link you to w3fools.com
 
however REGEX CAN NOT PARSE HTML
 
I will just tell you that w3schools design sucks balls
 
4:07 PM
A regex can't, but several regular-expressions, and you can do anything!
 
I just bin the message then make a witty meme about it
but i'm a dick
 
Don't listen to him, make an html parser out of regexs
2
 
!!/tell Zirak no
@rlemon Command no does not exist.
 
"Even Jon Skeet cannot parse HTML using regular expressions"
 
4:08 PM
Chuck Norris could.
 
4432
A: RegEx match open tags except XHTML self-contained tags

bobinceYou can't parse [X]HTML with regex. Because HTML can't be parsed by regex. Regex is not a tool that can be used to correctly parse HTML. As I have answered in HTML-and-regex questions here so many times before, the use of regex will not allow you to consume HTML. Regular expressions are a tool th...

 
Regex is singular
There is no regular-expression capable of matching the entirely of html
However, break html into its regular components, and it can
 
However, RegEx can (most likely) tokenize HTML so you can then parse it
 
Zirak is just jealous he didn't produce that answer... it's very Zirak like...
 
Doing it will be a complete waste of time since you have much better alternatives, but it's possible for fun or shit.
And most people expect "hurr durr gimme a copy-paste regex" when they say "I need to do stuff with regexs"
 
4:10 PM
> I think it's time for me to quit the post of Assistant Don't Parse HTML With Regex Officer. No matter how many times we say it, they won't stop coming every day... every hour even. It is a lost cause, which someone else can fight for a bit. So go on, parse HTML with regex, if you must. It's only broken code, not life and death.
 
> TH̘Ë͖́̉ ͠P̯͍̭O̚​N̐Y̡ H̸̡̪̯ͨ͊̽̅̾̎Ȩ̬̩̾͛ͪ̈́̀́͘ ̶̧̨̱̹̭̯ͧ̾ͬC̷̙̲̝͖ͭ̏ͥͮ͟Oͮ͏̮̪̝͍M̲̖͊̒ͪͩͬ̚̚͜Ȇ̴̟̟͙̞ͩ͌͝S̨̥̫͎̭ͯ̿̔̀ͅ
@OctavianDamiean ^
 
@rlemon OMIGOD UR SO RIGHT I'LL REPENT MY WAYS AND TURN INTO A REGEX NUN FROM NOW ON
 
Who is "Theponyhe"? Some Greek mythological figure?
 
Tony the Pony.. he comes
!!/google Tony the Pony
@rlemon Could not find definition for Tony the Pony
 
does he taste like raisins?
 
4:16 PM
lol
 
@rlemon the second one is priceless
 
Chrome can't even Google. What is this?!?!
 
@SomeKittens Whaaa?
 
4:18 PM
@SomeKittens ?
 
Oh, I think it's his sucky internet connection
 
/me types query into AwesomeBar. Nothing happens. AwesomeBar is empty.
/me waits ~30 seconds
nooooooothing
 
Did you hit enter?
:P
 
...yes.
 
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
 
4:20 PM
@AmaanCheval I swear they throttle AJAX etc.
 
@SomeKittens Settings -> Search?
 
I have circumstantial evidence that they're out to get me.
@Zirak Google? No, lemme go do that.
 
Jon Skeet, Reading, United Kingdom
503k 152 2477 3856
the badges number can't hold on the same line
 
I think it's happened to me once when Chrome was just starting or I'd opened a new tab and typed it in before the new tab could load
 
!!/stat 22656 extended
 
4:21 PM
@Zirak [Jon Skeet](http://stackoverflow.com/users/22656/jon-skeet) has 502722 reputation, earned 260 rep today, asked 26 questions, gave 23318 answers, for a q:a ratio of 13:11659.
avg. rep/post: 21.535383824537355, 152 gold badges, 2477 silver badges and 3856 bronze badges.
 
hrm, should add a fixed thing on the avg rep/post
 
can someone help me :(
what is the best way to add a footer to a page that is created dynamically ? it keeps poping up in the middle of the page , should I use setDefault( , ) jquery , and just hope the default is longer then the girds take to display ???
 
!!/tell scottselby google best way to add a footer to a page that is created dynamically
 
rlemon - I was lookin for you in c# room - here you are , thanks
 
4:32 PM
I'm in both.
 
morning
 
I'm Omnipotent
@hanleyhansen it's 11:30 dude. were you up all night catching predators again? lame jokes are lame
 
maybe! what's it to ya?
 
he was just making sure you still aren't on to him.
 
@hanleyhansen it's 5:35pm, dude
 
4:35 PM
@FlorianMargaine not here =)
 
@FlorianMargaine thanks for hounding for a source!
 
morning is the international/cross time-zone greeting for chats with users from different parts of the world
 
It's 10:07 PM
 
it's UCT: Universal Chat TIme: It's morning when the user logs in, and night when the user logs out.
 
@SomeKittens beat me to it
 
4:38 PM
@SomeKittens So it's always morning!
 
@hanleyhansen just logged in, so it's morning. Later, when @FlorianMargaine logs out, it'll be night.
 
@AmaanCheval when you enter the chat room you say morning. when you leave you say night. regardless of what time it is where you are.
 
@rlemon - none of those links help with dynamically created html , they rely on absolute positioning bottom: 0px - that is not going to cut it
 
since we're in a multi timezone environment, we should just say "hi" and "bye".
 
@hanleyhansen Or you could just say hi
 
4:39 PM
when I enter I usually say "Have no fear! our lemon is here!" (it's a play on words... our lemon... rlemon.... I'm so funny! =D )
 
@rlemon Hahaha :D
 
@rlemon "ou rlemon" sucks though.
 
You don't have to say anything when you enter or leave
 
@FlorianMargaine is that even funny in french? because in english you just sound stupid.
 
4:42 PM
@rlemon it's not funny in either, that's why your joke sucks.
 
Hi, I have this slider.
http://jsfiddle.net/AHYVr/
Each anchor in the pagination invokes the gotoslide function.
I need to know a way to auto start that function
 
gotoslide(); // auto started!
 
@FlorianMargaine oohhh, burn
 
@FlorianMargaine my joke was witty, your joke was painful and confusing. Stick to what you know. awesome node.js packages.
 
@rlemon but.. but... I didn't do any joke :(
 
4:44 PM
I can tell you my UDP joke.... but you probably wont get it.
2
 
hurr
 
Didn't even have to read the entire joke
 
@rlemon I lol'd
 
Thanks Florian, sorry for not giving a good explanation...
I need to autostart the slide, from slide 1 to last one.
I've tried to use (failed) setInterval in a function that adds by 1 the parameter in the gotoslide() function.
 
4:47 PM
how can i refresh the page when ok is pressed on an alert?
 
I don't think you can hook alerts
 
alert('hello hanley'); // blocks
window.location = url; // read line above and figure this out.
 
alert('foo');
location.reload();
 
yea... reload - I misread
 
i get it. so technically it's not a hook. it's just running afterwards right?
 
4:49 PM
yes
 
alert is synchronous
 
cool got it
works like a charm
 
But charms don't work
 
Your parents lied to you. Nobody can use magic.
You're as plain and dull as the next person
 
4:52 PM
I can use magic.
want to see my pull my thumb off?
 
Pooping isn't magic
 
I'm a PHP developer I can use Magic php.net/manual/en/language.oop5.magic.php
 
he is alive
 
No, php can use magic. You can beg php to show you.
 
@Zirak the toilet can be, 1/30 I look back and the poop is gone! disappearing poops leave me feeling unsatisfied
 
4:54 PM
Eating poop does not constitute a magical toilet
 
anyone good with google Chrome Extentions
 
No. Being that I am the PHP developer i am using the magic. That's like telling a magician that he doesn't do the magic, his wand does. Give a non magician the same wand and no magic. PHP is my magic wand.
 
@EliteGamer Kind of. Why?
 
the wand does the magic.
 
@hanleyhansen Wands don't work
 
4:55 PM
@ChadRuppert Not everyone with a wand can do magic
 
I need to edit the source of the webpage and display the modified webpage
 
the wizard manipulates the wand to do his bidding.
 
the wand still does the magic.
 
@rlemon exactly.
 
Real wizards charm rlemon's poop
 
4:55 PM
can you do magic without the wand? I don't think so.
 
I KNEW SOMETHING WAS FISHY!
 
@ChadRuppert Hence it being the tool.
 
Welcome to the JS room, where magic and poop can be in the same sentence. And make sense. (Somehow.)
 
no. I can dig a hole without a shovel.
I can't do magic without a wand.
 
There's nothing illogical about the common phrase "magical poop"
 
4:56 PM
My wand does a lot of magic
like, children.
 
See? The wand does the magic.
 
@ChadRuppert arcing your hands into a shovel like tool is manipulating the form factor to act as a shovel. Some might argue this is just a rudimentary shovel.
 
@ChadRuppert That's because we're all natural diggers. No one is a natural magician. It is developed. Just like no one is a natural programmer. It is learned and developed.
 
I do it with my fingers splayed.
 
then you have 4 long shovels and a back hoe
 
4:57 PM
Don't talk about my mother that way!
 
I can dig a hole (wtf brain) using only an old Chinese woman and an elderly baby
 
I can dig a whole with PHP
 
@ChadRuppert THEN TELL HER TO PAY MY DAMN INVOICE!!! IM NOT FREE YOU KNOW!!!
 
@rlemon She's broke. You shouldn't service broken women.
 
magical poop, mothers, gardening tools, Jon Skeet, and Ryan had an actual work related problem. now i'm off to lunch @FlorianMargaine it's all upto you!
 
4:59 PM
Change that to "you shouldn't service women"
I want exclusivity
 
or you shouldnt disservice women
 

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