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11:04 PM
Bit of ZZ-top never hurt anyone
:D
 
@MattMcDonald once you start thinking in these data structures you can't stop. You find ways of emulating them even in languages/environments that don't have them
 
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it's beautiful
 
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e4x in as3 is great, but json is a programmer's dream
 
11:25 PM
apparently, json is also yaml
I find it particularly nice for config files, a la symfony.
@MylesGray LOL
 
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just found a question with 3 upvotes that consists of only two answers by the user that asked the question
 
hello
 
I've got a question: do you have a favorite book on javascript ? If so, which one ?
 
@Nathan Yeah- he's my personal trainer :)
 
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@MattMcDonald thanks!
not a javascript expert myself, I'm trying to see if my list there (hackerbooks.com/books?keywords=javascript) is good
 
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btw, that page is a killer JS reference
 
thanks a lot
mmm - jibbering.com doesn't load for me here; does it work for you ?
 
@MattMcDonald its dead here too
 
@ThibautBarrère Douglas Crockford's book is supposedly good. Haven't read it yet.
 
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11:44 PM
yeah it's down right now for some reason.
 
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(cached via google)
 
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just add "#books" to the end of the URL
 
ok - bookmarked it, I'll get back to it!
@Nathan yeah it's on the top of the most quoted books for javascript on SO apparently
 
Also @ThibautBarrère , Ivo Wetzel's JavaScript Garden is a must-read free resource.
 
11:47 PM
@Nathan love the look of it as well; thanks!
 
@Nathan DOug's book is UM-MAZING
 
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crockford's book is good for what it is, but it's horribly short and doesn't cover much more than syntax
 
Stick with O'Reilly or Visual Quick Pro guides :)
 
thanks guys, appreciated advice
off to bed now :)
 
@MylesGray bookmarked as well, thx!
 
@ThibautBarrère also get this: oreilly.com/catalog/9780596805531
 
@MylesGray damn
 
It's so hot off the press it aint even out yet :D
May 4th
;)
 
11:52 PM
Full chapter on CANVAS = win
 
I want to improve the search results on hackerbooks.com
 
@MylesGray I have that one on preorder...
 
(which I run)
to your knowledge,
 
@ThibautBarrère awesome!
 
thanks!
 
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11:54 PM
he published a new version? ****!
 
I'm not a javascript expert at all, but noticed the definitive guide I have listed is from 2006
 
@MattMcDonald yep it's not printed yet but you can buy the e-book for like $25
 
@ThibautBarrère you're like, a spammer for the forces of good !
 
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I just got the fifth edition in the mail a few weeks ago
 
@ThibautBarrère yeah the new one wont be out for another month and its completely re-written
@MattMcDonald me too
 
11:56 PM
(re-written in jQuery)
 
@Nathan not sure to follow you ?
 
@ThibautBarrère Ignore @Nathan he's had too much sugar :D
 
sorry - didn't want to come out as spammy
 
@ThibautBarrère sorry dumb inside joke about jQuery being more famous than JavaScript
 
I just want to improve my search to help out my visitors
 
11:57 PM
But I'm not bitter
 
@ThibautBarrère no - its a good thing :)
 
@Nathan obviously, the fact you eat so much sugar makes up for it :D
will stop that stupid joke now
 
@ThibautBarrère Yes, you're like, when Darth Vader used his power to destroy the Emporer!
2
 
I'm doing jquery and javascript casually, so it's a bit of effort to find out which books are outdated but still good etc
Nathan: hehe
 
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11:58 PM
if you're serious about learning JS, hold off on jQuery.
 
eats more sugar
 
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learn how the language works
 
@Nathan :D YAYYY
 
@MattMcDonald I've read that more than once, totally agree
 
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11:59 PM
Although the temptation for me is grand to stay on jquery only: I just need too many fields to get my job done :)
 
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mini-podcasts from js' creator
 

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