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2:22 AM
I Tweeted to Elon Musk
.@elonmusk: We're producing a musical film about hackathons. Want to make a cameo? We'll even cover lunch.
 
@StanBaker You need at least 80 rep, and a a:q ratio of 3:4 to talk here. Please see this link for more details.
 
I wouldn't say it's bad
Just not... realistic these days
Most work isn't in Java
Especially in the hipster startup places
 
o/
Sorry I've been MIA all week. Crazy project at work.
 
3:33 AM
what is introductory language. I dont make sense on JS alert('Hello, world!'); compared with Java. Its different, JS might simpliest to intro the simple logic, but Java could simple than JS when things goes complicated.
 
4:01 AM
IMO, python is a good introductory language
@RaghavSood For an intro programming course, popularity of the language in industry should not even be a consideration. Or at most a very minor one. Ease of teaching and learning programming concepts should be the most important thing.
As the article points out, Java's Hello, World is pretty complex and can be baffling to s beginner.
Aww, gnucash for android is broken :-(
I should find the source code and see if I can figure out the bug.
 
 
2 hours later…
5:52 AM
Good morning
 
introductory language doesn't need to be useful in production, its goals are very different — to allow someone quickly grok important programming concepts while not developing bad taste
and I still don't see anything better than Scheme for this purpose, because it's simple (absolute minimum of things *in language* to memorize to start going anywhere) and expressive enough. and it's also used SICP
and this is apparently a top secret knowledge in recent years. hope I'll not get shot for reveali
 
Amen, Brother!
My knowledge of Scheme is minimal. Did a little bit of Common Lisp for a class in college.
 
@Code-Apprentice Sure, that's what should be considered, but I know of a lot of colleges that pride themselves on teaching "industry tools"
If colleges went with ideal for learning languages instead, I'd be much happier
 
well, the language itself is very simple. literals, list, quotes, identifiers — that's all
(maybe also some syntax for macros, I don't remember them)
and some identifiers may have special meaning which is used when executing code, but the syntax is the same.
so there isn't such thing as learning the language, it can be learned in 5 minutes literally
other is memorizing some built-in functions and macros (when they start being necessary), and actually coding something
 
morning
 
6:19 AM
speaking of "industry tools", IMO Python 3 is the lesser evil
 
Blasphemer!
@Linus o/
 
@Code-Apprentice \o
 
6:35 AM
Morning
 
Past my bed time
 
@UmairKhalid Welcome! Please read, confirm reading, and follow the room rules before you do anything else: room-15.github.io
 
6:51 AM
I have read and understood the rules
 
7:10 AM
o/
 
Good man
 
EEPAA
EPAAA
trapped forever
multieyes
twisted tail
trapped foreeeever!
 
7:56 AM
eric's gone looney again
 
wait
what are you doing in gmt timezone?
shouldn't you be dreaming about your company beer bar?
up there in the usa?
:P
 
lol I'm on vacation :p
going to sleep now though
 
nice
where are you?
 
user443346
o/
 
8:12 AM
o/
 
user443346
8:41 AM
Shit facebook
 
user443346
Even posting edgy memes results in a ban nowadays
 
you got banned?
 
user443346
2nd time in 2 months
 
user443346
2.5 monts*
 
user443346
2 times 30 days.
 
user443346
8:42 AM
The r-tards who take the time to report a post... smh
 
dialogFragment.dismiss(); was thrown "android.support.v4.app.FragmentManager.beginTransaction()' on a null object reference"
exception after activity orientation changed.

After orientation changed, dialogfragment still exist on screen(not sure why), and cant be called dismiss.(or exception thrown)

I have googled many time with different keyword still not found solution.
Can you help me?
 
user443346
@netpork Thats me indeed :D
 
user443346
Yeah I saw some housewifuuus arguing with others because someone posted something edgy. I decided to post a Ho-ho-holocaust meme with the question: "Does this trigger you even more?"
 
user443346
Guess they all reported the post.
 
user443346
8:47 AM
Guess I got Zuckerberg'd again
 
dialog.dismiss();

exception thrown : android.support.v4.app.FragmentManager.beginTransaction()' on a null object reference

dialog not null.
android bug?
 
dialog is a DialogFragment?
 
yes.
DismissAllowingStateLoss() tried still same. thrown that exception
it will happen only after orientation changed. It is fine to call dismiss() when orientation not changed.
dismiss() thrown exception, but dialog still on screen :(
 
the question is where do you call it
 
Activity -> Fragment -> DialogFragment
I creating DialogFragment in Fragment
dissmiss it on Fragment
with post() on root view
 
9:00 AM
where do you call dismiss directly? Inside a listener? Lifecycle method?
 
on Fragment UIThread. I post() the dismiss() to the root view
 
ok, once again: What must happen that you call this method? User presses a button? A event must be fired? The app must get bored? The chinese wall fell off a cliff? Trump did something good or did you just call it when the sun shines?
 
Fragment event fired on another thread.
 
what event?
is this so fucking hard to be a bit more specific?
I mean you provide details only slightly more specific than "My app crashes!"
 
Please see above. I provided a lot of information instead of just "My app crashes!"
 
9:07 AM
and I still have no fucking clue where you call dismiss()!
 
Thanks for your help.
 
why don't you share some code if you can't describe it?
 
yay we're releasing an in house app
been a long since that
 
Congrats Eric!
 
9:11 AM
Thread fired the DialogFragment event that Fragment subscribed.
when the event fired, Fragment doing :
Exception will thrown on #18 lines
 
what is this shit? C#?
3
 
in cases printing failed.
yes CLI C# on Xamarin.
it is still same with java, can you take a look?
 
No, Java would be a sane decision to use
 
It seems dismiss() failed to taken FragmentManager
 
You don't say
 
9:14 AM
but I has no clue with this.
 
you have read the error message in detail
 
sorry, i have never touched xamarin
 
entire logic is same on java.
 
and c# xamarin != java native sdk
 
If I write these on java, I sure will receive same exception
 
9:15 AM
logic maybe, readability? Nope!
 
it will probably.FAIL.on.MOST.of.THESE.weird.ATRIBUTE.CALLS()
 
Again, the question is where is "printAction" being called from?
 
OK. I try re-write entire fragment, thanks a lot
 
really, it's got nothing to do
syntax is vaguely similar
but that's it
 
your dialog fragment is not correctly reattached or your event is firing while it might be not attached anymore. So you are fucking up the lifecycle events
 
9:17 AM
"dialog fragment is not correctly reattached" I have no touched on manager. dialog fragment take the control all the time.
 
you missed the "or"
who guarantees that the event triggering the printAction is fired when the dialog is attached?
 
"event is firing while it might be not attached anymore"
event is un-subscribed on OnPause(), and re-subscribed on OnResume
 
have you checked if you can use isShown() (or so) on the dialog?
 
I m sure event is subscribed.
 
onResume of what?
 
9:19 AM
@WarrenFaith Nope but dialog is visible on screen.
@WarrenFaith fragment. which subsribing the event.
 
doesn't mean a shit because you could have 2 instances and you are working on an old one
STOP EDITING A PING MESSAGE
 
@WarrenFaith You mean there has many instances of the dialog fragment?
 
I am quitting. I am in rage mode already, no use to fuel it with A FUCKING PINGER
 
Lol
 
how can I get that new instance
 
9:20 AM
better stop pinging him
if you value your life
 
one more ping and you are done...
 
see. Im not ping you, Im 'reply' to your message
thanks a lot for your help anyway
 
I don't throw you off a bridge, I just push your back!
 
Remember kids, only ping Warren when deep inland with no bridges
 
9:24 AM
I respect people. But I still respect people who make nonsense on 'ping'
Im replying the transcript.
 
which triggers a ping
 
It's unnecessary in a room like this. People can almost always keep track of who is replying to what
 
Yeah no need to ping when it was just two people chatting back and forth
 
Jesus what happened to Mark?!
 
It is still taking time on guest this message is belong to which message.
 
9:26 AM
I agree with @Mark and @Ragha
 
it is just a click away to removing the ping
 
What you mean what happened to me?
 
You look different
 
different better
 
9:27 AM
Different is good right?
Thanks Tim!
Yeah my old display pic was from graduation last year, decided to update it with one I took over the weekend when my sister was over
 
no, thank you (͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) for giving us something to look at
 
4 Don’t ping users (@username-ing) unless it’s to clarify who you’re speaking to or you need to get a specific person’s attention. Pinging for help is bannable.
as seen on room rules.
You all need to read.
 
why are you arguing about the rules with the people who made the rules
 
> unless it’s to clarify who you’re speaking to or you need to get a specific person’s attention
 
I would be careful about your next steps here, nyconing. All we said was that pinging so much above was unnecessary. Warren already knew you were talking to him, there was no need to clarify. You already had his attention too. It was unnecessary, people here told you so. Best to live, learn, move on.
 
9:31 AM
You should really increase your span of attention
We where the only ones talking, directly to each other
 
Im still new in this room. I follow rules arcordingly.
 
that is why we explain it instead of banning your straight away
 
see. I said that just a reply, to clarify replying to which message.
 
But that was not needed, and successive pings (with edits especially) can get very annoying
Warren usually exists in a state of half annoyed anyways
5
 
OK. I will note down not to replying message anyway.
 
9:33 AM
Notice how we've all been able to have a 3-5 person conversation without pings?
 
15 mins ago, by nyconing
"dialog fragment is not correctly reattached" I have no touched on manager. dialog fragment take the control all the time.
 
thanks for help alot.
 
you just quoted a part of my message, which is fine, and I understood it and replied
 
You usually only want to reply-ping someone if their message is old enough that they're not in the room, or that the conversation has completely moved on from that topic
 
replying to messages is fine. We usually do it if the message you're replying to was posted a while ago
 
9:34 AM
Anything else, people can keep up
 
> half annoyed
That is basically a very charming way to express my state :D
 
OK. right now, if normally I will just replying to above message.
But I cant
Youre Admin, trying to re-allowing on 'reply' which is good function SOF give us.
just me opinion
 
I am not sure about you, but my attention span is not that bad that I can't keep up with a chat of up to 5 people
 
Yes, you mention that I just make you readable on my help.
You can just state that you cant afford on replying= =I will respect you then.
Im not here to annoying you all
 
"can't afford on replying" - I am not sure I understand what you mean by that
 
9:38 AM
Da?
chmod -R 0444 /nyconing/help/WarrenFaith
 
Im sure I will NOT pinging if SOF given the 'reply' function not to pinging.
 
replying is the same as pinging
 
A reply automatically includes a ping
 
I dont think it is same.
yes, it is auto
Im new here to learn there is people hates ping
 
In this instance, they are
 
9:40 AM
we don't hate pings. But if you hear PING - PING every 10 seconds it starts to get annoying
 
it interrupts my 10h thunder and lightening stream....
 
It is still messy with none of 'reply', maybe Admin can send a opinion to SOF about 'reply not to ping'
 
We get it. You thought of pings differently and didn't feel that was something you shouldn't be doing. That's fine. Everyone has their own comfort levels. We simply said that over here, we tend to avoid pinging as much as you were. It's best to adjust your behaviour to work with the rest of us here than argue over it
 
Unless you're getting pinged about Realm. It's important to read those posts...
 
No one's mad that you had a different opinion
Unless the opinion is "Realm Sucks", and the "No one" is Tim
 
9:42 AM
Im not argue with you all as Admin.
 
In which case you face the wrath of the Dutch
 
I'm not an admin
 
And pretty much go about your life as you would normally, because Dutch Wrath
 
enjoy the rest of your life without importing tulips then
see who is laughing now
 
Either way, I'm out. Gotta do things
 
9:44 AM
WarrenFaith "it interrupts my 10h thunder and lightening stream...."
Thanks for your helps anyway.
 
lol raghav
 
that's a large gradle file
 
o/
 
9:54 AM
warren, which headphones are that?
 
Plantronics something
 
Ohh
Mine are like that too
 
That's a cool video Warren
 
warren, why are you always into the gradle files?
 
9:55 AM
> Plantronics Backbeat Pro/R Headset
 
Presentations from DroidCon Boston are available: slideslive.com/droidconbos/droidcon-boston-2017
 
@RaghavSood hmmm
 
Because I can, Eric, because I can
 
18 vs 77
I don't even know why you try, Tim
 
but almost all from 1 user
 
9:56 AM
Also available to watch now is the Android Makers 2017 presentations: youtube.com/playlist?list=PLn7H9CUCuXAs2N7Wh57yR9RmzMke-hPY-
 
"lol tim" actually has 93 results so I got you beat anyway
 
I can't go back to using software audio controls now
 
me no comprend.
 
Nope, Tim. At that points it's:
 
althought most are from CF and he says lol to anything
 
9:57 AM
> using software audio controls now
 
"lol tim is doing dumb stuff again" vs "lol raghav is hilarious/has a great sense of humor"
Platronic Rig has an inbuilt mixer
 
?
 
@TimCastelijns that is not true
 
And for other headphones I use a 5 channel Behringer
 
:/
 
9:58 AM
what do you mean?
> inbuilt mixer
it makes salads?
 
@ColdFire damn I thought you were not here
 
our gradle file is only 337 lines long
 
Audio mixer
 
like.. play pause next?
isn't that present in any >20$ headset?
or any >10$ headphone?
 
9:59 AM
Our spanish troll is active again :D
 
In audio, a mixing console is an electronic device for combining (also called "mixing"), routing, and changing the volume level, timbre (tone color) and/or dynamics of many different audio signals, such as microphones being used by singers, mics picking up acoustic instruments such as drums or saxophones, signals from electric or electronic instruments such as the electric bass or synthesizer, or recorded music playing on a CD player. In the 2010s, a mixer is able to control analog or digital signals, depending on the type of mixer. The modified signals (voltages or digital samples) are summed...
 
@TimCastelijns bad dutchie :(
 
why do you even need that?
 
adds to list of insults and other mean comments by CF
 
Have you tried to listen in on billions of audio devices worldwide simultaneously?!
It's just noise
A proper mixing set up lets you focus
 
10:01 AM
@codeMagic can I alter this list? Or do you hold the lock currently?
 
meeh very short list
 
Eric can I css bother you
 
.eric { help-tim: none; }
 
its just short because me made it arial 4 so we don't have to integrate another scrollview
#r15hacks
yeah sure
shoot
 
I have a fixed header with some content below it. I want the content layout to always fill the rest of the height
I found stackoverflow.com/questions/90178/… but I think that only works if you apply it to the entire page
I only want to alter the content layout because I don't use flexbox for the rest
suggestions?
 
10:05 AM
so
you want a fixed header that's always fixed
ad scrolls with the page?
or what?
 
already have that
 
okie
now you want your content to stretch itself
 
client was complaning that he had to scroll to see all the page content, so he says I have to fit everything in the screen
 
vertically
ah
tell him to buy a bigger screen
 
Good noon to all
 
10:06 AM
tell him scrolls exist
use flexbox
those are the three main easy options
FYI we did use option 2 once and it worked
so it's worth a try
 
the flexbox from the link works, but not if I apply it only to the content section
 
basically we went the "find us a website that offers the same services as you, that has no scroll and that is modern, and we'll do it".
you need to go up 1 layer
and set the content to flex:1; on it's css
so
 
I will have to change every page then
 
#container { display:flex; flex-direction: column; align-items: stretch;}
try wrapping with that
or that
44
Q: How to make the main content div fill height of screen with css

user2713516So I have a webpage with a header, mainbody, and footer. I want the mainbody to fill 100% of the page (fill 100% in between footer and header) My footer is position absolute with bottom: 0. Everytime I try to set the mainbody to 100% height or change position or something it will also overflow th...

 
With this flexbox thing if I make the screen bigger and then smaller again, it has a different size from original. Seems odd
 
10:12 AM
play with the align items
tell the user scrolls are a thing and that small screens have them,
tell him to try to drink 24 beers at once
 
all align-items behave the same way
 
if some beer spills, that's called overflow
to solve an overflow, we can either stretch the content, using a drinking cone
or pass content from time to time
using a drinkign tube and a dosifier.
 
you loved my analogy, didn't oyu'
 
it's a week schedule view that is 7x48 for 7 days and 48 half-hours per day. He wants all 48 rows to fit in the screen height at once
yes I did lol
 
10:21 AM
that means that on a 1366*720 screen
you'll have as much as 15 pixels per row
amazing client indeed.
720/48
 
:)
minus the height for the header and possibly other text etc
 
yay
flexbox ist the best stuff for that
make me a plunkr with your html and css
and i'll try to do some magic
 
I don't know how that works
 
or similars
that or send me ateamviewer id lol
 
I tried jsfiddle but couldn't make sense of it
 
10:27 AM
don't do the teamviewer thing, can't access right now
big issue came in
 
no problemo
I am doing the dirty fix now
changing the css of the generated stuff
 
10:49 AM
agaskdlawld`w
 
yeah I agree
 
rebuilding an app's code to match a faster system
 
11:13 AM
how i can create android application in which app user record video and same time broadcast and any number of user can view this video and also like and comment on this live video
similar functionality like Instagram live video functionality
 
Most of the logic will be on the backend
 
but which media server is most preferable for this
 
I don't know
 
because i also need to setup Real time media server for this
 
> Real time media server
what is this?
 
11:16 AM
real time media streaming server
like this
http://red5.org/
 
I see, interesting
 
do you got my point what i what to say??
 
we got you point
we don't have a single simple one liner answer
 
11:33 AM
ok but let me know if @CptEric have any reference url for that
 
points at the whole universe of media encoding and live feed
i have never done anything of that kind sorry
 
ok np thanks for your reply
 
the comments and likes part is probable the easiest
automatize a chat with firebase realtime DB and notifications
but got no idea on the video part
 
okay
 
@Graeme i'll translate you the meme when you login
 
12:34 PM
Translate away!
 
@CptEric I have to display 96 rows in the same space now :D
 
Dharmendra - I live using the theory that 80% of the population are in fact surplus. They bring no economic, cultural or spiritual gains to humanity. I don't believe they should be part of the work force and instead replaced by automation and only work if they really want to.
That goes along with my theory that 50% of people are intellectually unable to make positive decisions to anything but short term personal gain
</hitler>
 
12:52 PM
Well, "it's not gonna be my problem anymore when I'm dead, duh...!"
 
@Graeme "mother 1 : look son, you go to school to not be a street clenaner liek him". "mother 2: look son, you go to school to learn to appreciate a well paid, well secured job, with good healthcare coverage, but most important, to distance yourself from classist pricks".
very compact translation
 
Hah, kind of shoots itself in the foot with the pro capitalist message :D
Capitalism being a class system
But being pro street sweeper is good :)
Mother 1: Look son, you go to school so you don't end up a street sweeper like him
Mother 2: Look son, you go to school to help you learn to appreciate that you drink clean water, walk down clean streets, and get to live in a healthy environment due to people like that street sweeper.
 
yay
 
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