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5:00 PM
Ok, I'm going to go hunt down some lunch
Might be a subway kind of day. Not sure yet
 
Eat fresh, cM.
 
fresh meat.
 
5:12 PM
I'm hungry now
 
me too
 
I keep mindlessly checking room 15, Facebook, email, g+, email, Facebook and repeating.
Man I'm bored
 
you should try out imgur
that'll get you through the rest of the day
 
I don't wanna
 
I'm so proud.
God waiting for jcenter has been worse than waiting to hear from Google holy crap
 
5:15 PM
Haha, when do you plan to hear from them?
 
Hi @Wally, unfortunately we don't let people who have less than 100 reputation points get access here. There's other requirements too, you can read them here: room-15.github.io
 
but he's got a cute profile picture! He's close to 100 rep, hopefully he gets them via answers too.
 
Wall-Eeeeeeeeee
Eeeevaaaa
 
@codeMagic thanks man
 
Welcome!
 
5:18 PM
o/ trek. Did you check out our room rules?
 
I feel like that would be funnier if it wasn't prefaced with 'programmer joke'
 
Could anyone help me with choice: I want to buy low-end phone? What minimum should have this phone? I mean Lollipop or Kitkat? 1GB RAM or 512 would be enough?
 
5:21 PM
:|
 
this is serious question, guys
 
So was mine.
 
Lol
 
1GB
 
Glad I came back just in time for that
 
5:23 PM
we are too
 
Kitkat or Lollipop 5.02
?
 
piotrek, have you read the room rules yet?
 
@CarlAnderson Am I abusing them? Ok, I will check them right now ;-)
 
:|
 
If you read them when I first asked, you wouldn't have to ask if you were abusing them
 
5:26 PM
If my face could get flatter it would.
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^ My reaction.
 
lol mac
 
@codeMagic than I would also ask? :-D
 
I don't understand but I'm ok with that
 
lol glad you chuckled Carl usually I just make a fool out of myself so bad that it's no longer funny.
 
piotrek, you're new, and you pretty obviously don't speak English as your primary language, so I'm going to spell things out a bit for you. We get a lot of help vampires in here, people who come in only to bombard us with questions, expecting us to do all their research and work for them. As you might imagine, we don't like those people very much.
So when you come in here and you don't read the rules right away like we ask, and then you right away start asking questions, you make yourself look like you're one of those help vampires
does that make sense?
 
5:39 PM
hmm... thought chat froze so refreshed. Nope
 
thumbs up to Carl
 
lol
Yesterday I tried to close a question as dupe and three people upvoted the comment but no one else voted it as a dupe... WAT
 
It was upvoted, most likely, due to others flagging to close
 
but it shows close(1) under the question
I think people are too afraid to close NPE questions as dupe now, it's too pointless.
 
Yes, if they can only flag and not vote
why?
 
5:44 PM
and... he left...
 
oh I see what you mean cM
and because it's just pointless and people try to fight back and say 'oh mine's not the same problem'
 
@piotrek1543 I've revoked your write access, we're not a helpdesk, and you didn't seem willing to chat.
 
I've seen NPE questions that are part of a bigger issue, but if it really comes down to 'you never initialized this variable' i'm gonna vtc 10/10
 
That's extra irritating since Mac and I put so much effort into choosing his nickname
I still don't get why it's pointless
I mean, if it really isn't a dupe, then you get the OP to say why it isn't. If it is, then it should be closed
Those kinds can be tricky sometimes and aren't as simple as not initializing even though the end issue might be the same
Like NPEs from a Context issue
 
Right
But this one was as a result of not initializing.
I can't understand the OP's comments under the accepted answer, but I still think it was ultimately a result of them not being initialized right away
 
5:49 PM
But I do agree that people are scared to close things (not just for dupes) or they just don't see the benefit and think we should answer everything
 
LOL omg on a side note I had clicked on somewhere I saw Jon Skeet's name and got so confused when I saw only 11 answers but then quickly realized I was on meta
 
@codeMagic I should have trusted my gut and just revoked access instead of typing all that out.
 
I think you did the right thing Carl
 
Yeah, still good to have the explanation there for later if needed. And so he understands
Mac, that seems to be a clear NPE to me. And it's closed as such
 
Thank you
oh and apparently TLN helped vote it out haha
 
5:55 PM
Anything for Mac-a-doodle
 
^.^
 
:)
 
10k rep power.
 
Anything? Will you walk into the jcenter office and expedite my library so I can share it already
 
Doesn't necessarily have to do with 10k
 
5:56 PM
it's the gold tag right?
 
I have a meeting at 1:30 but I will go after that
Yeah
 
(y)
 
I don't wanna get up
 
tag score of 1000 of one of the original tags
Don't! It's scary out there
 
The outernet is a terrible place
 
5:57 PM
lol
Damn, the meeting starts now instead of 1:30
 
That's an outrage!!
 
oh man this code is so... preposterous
guy has 3 data managers to store data about various things
they need to be singletons
but apparently he's never seen the "getInstance()" style of singlton access before
 
so instead he writes a 4th class to store all the singletons
 
maybe don't though
 
6:06 PM
and makes them all inherit from a base abstract class
 
those were my early days of blogging haha
 
and then in order to get one of the singletons from the 4th class holding them all,
 
That just sounds so much more complicated than it needs to be.
 
....
 
you have to pass in a .class object to get the right one
 
6:07 PM
like I said yesterday
right-click package, press delete
 
lol
 
so in order to get the Store datastore, you have to pass in Store.class
trevor, I would, but first I have to figure out everything it's doing so I don't break the app
 
Yeah, because if I can't go get my pumpkinspicebullshit thingy I'm blaming Carl.
 
lol, I feel your pain
our app was a mess because it originally was outsourced to Pakistan
we still have bits of legacy code, but most has been refactored by now
 
at some point I think he realized how ridiculous his system was, and created helper methods to return the specific data managers directly
public abstract class ListDataManager<K, D extends DeepCopyable<D>> implements IUniqueDataManager<K, D> {
 
6:09 PM
understands generics, but not sane singletons lol
 
omg what the generics hell
 
Should people be allowed to just copy and paste someone's comment as an answer?
 
no
 
I mean, isn't that what Trump's doing? Copy and pasting the youtube comments section into his campaign speeches?
 
They should be allowed to but it should get down voted into deletion
 
6:11 PM
what would it be flagged as?
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Q: Kotlin: What features of Java 8 are not yet supported?

Philipp ClaßenIs there an up-to-date overview of Java 8 features, which are not yet supported in Kotlin? For example, calling a default method like Map#putIfAbsent fails to compile (unsupported reference error): import java.util.* fun main(args: Array<String>) { val x : Map<Int, Int> = HashMap<Int, Int>...

 
Eski I'd flag that as link only answer
because it doesn't really explain anything, all the important stuff is in the link
 
yeah but that kind of makes sense in this case
 
I'm kind of ok with the asker copy pasting a comment if there's no answer
so that the question is resolved
if it was someone else rep whoring it might be different
 
Oh I just clicked on the link I see wha tyou mean
and the guy who commented has 350k rep so I don't think he's insulted
but maybe credit him like 'as JB said in the comments...'
 
yea, it's also a poor quality answer
there's a reason the guy left it as a comment
but the fact that he copied the comment doesn't bother me
 
6:14 PM
^
 
I guess it's a gray zone
 
Generally eski I'd agree but because it's an unresolved question and the asker's question was answered by a comment
I'm ok with the asker using the comment to make an answer to his own question so it stops showing up in the unanswered list
 
He did make it a community answer, too.
 
community answer?
 
he doesn't get rep for upvotes and most people can edit like a wiki page
 
6:18 PM
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Q: What are "Community Wiki" posts?

Justin StandardSome questions and answers are marked Community Wiki and are owned by a Community Wiki user. Why have Community Wiki posts? How do Community Wiki posts work? How does a post become a Community Wiki post? How can the Community Wiki status be removed from a post? Return to FAQ Index

 
oh that's cool
 
I just found out I had in laws I didn't even know existed. Tristan never told me he had siblings.
 
6:50 PM
lol
 
Meeting over \o/
 
\o/
 
how we doing folks?
 
7:00 PM
GIT IT NOWWWW
 
posted on December 11, 2015 by Reto Meier

Posted Steven Soneff, Product Manager, Google Identity More than 30 percent of users signing in to the Netflix app on Android no longer have to enter a password thanks to Google’s Smart Lock for Passwords. Learn more It’s been six months since the launch of Smart Lock for Passwords and we are thrilled with the impact it has made in getting users signed back in to many of their favorite apps

 
get me one tristan
i can't buy one from here
 
o/ Nathaniel
 
@CptEric send me your Google login
 
LOL
do not
 
7:06 PM
o/ carl
 
we just integrated smart lock into our app
it's pretty neat
 
\o
@TristanWiley there is no "order this" link :(
 
Can't get to convert onenote file to pdf online
someone create a tool please
 
It might be US only @Ahmad
 
shoot
 
7:12 PM
I just pressed "Free"
 
thought so
 
You can do what Cpt did and send me your login info lol
 
@Eenvincible My official title is "Software Engineer at Microsoft OneNote Germany" - I might be able to help
 
Really?
Then tell me how to fix this
I have a onepkg document
I cannot open it because I have no OneNote program on Linux
 
I thought you could export to pdf
hmm
 
7:14 PM
duh, I erased my windows
Someone emailed that to me
 
I can let the people in redmond know about this
 
lol
Like how long will they take to do it?
 
lol
 
probably 5 years
 
hahaa
Yeah that is about right
 
7:15 PM
o/
 
Guess I can't buy it for Eric :/
 
wait tristan
can you get two?
and give me one at pennapps?
that'd be dooooope
 
No it's limit one
Ahmad
 
I tried, only one per person.
 
7:17 PM
I can seem to add it to cart, but not actually ship it
It gives an error on check out
 
I think they're out of stock already.
 
My friend just said he missed it
 
I'll share with you guys!
 
well if mine doesn't fit the N6 I'll probably have no use for it so maybe I'll raffle it off
And I'm 90% sure it won't
 
7:35 PM
raffle raffle
raffle intensifies
ooh
for any celiacs out there
investigators at the UB have discovered a possible "cure" that could be administered in the form of pill
you take it, you can enjoy pizza
 
@McAdam331 do I have you on Hangouts?
 
No you don't, Nana
Would you like to?
 
Yes
 
Alright. It's probably easier for you to find me, I'm not sure I know the real nana ha
 
do i have you adam?
 
7:41 PM
I think so
let me go check my room-15 circl ehaha
 
i do , heya
XD
 
don't forget to test how your app behaves during process restarts
just found a few bugs for things I was working on
 
7:59 PM
Nana just teased me about adding me on hangouts. :(
 
lol
 
Still only 12 installs on my app . :|
 
oh no Adam
Goes to show, this shit is hard
lol
 
Een this is your fault
 
The struggle is for realz
 
8:07 PM
indeed it is
you're over there hogging all the installs in this room
 
pick a better market to target adam ;)
 
:(
 
I'm almost at 5k installs lol
but my app has a very generic name
 
A personal app?
 
yea the wifi inspector app I linked a while back
 
8:17 PM
Oh gotcha
I should have put 'checkbook' in my app title
> CptEric, JCenter consultant
^@CptEric your new name tag.
 
lol
XD
 
So I have a question
let's say I have a class in version 1.0.2, and I plan an update for a new version in which case I don't want to use that class as it is. Can I just remake the entire class and increase version #? If people are using '1.0.2' in their gradle will it work fine? Or would I be better off deprecating the class, and creating a new one with the appropriate updated code, so it doesn't break anyone's app and we can let them switch on their own time?
 
deprecate and create new
 
Gotcha
@Mauker see above convo^
 
XDXD
 
8:32 PM
It's been like three hours since I sent a message to jcenter, it should be approved any time now
 
8:44 PM
Looking through your blog I've seen at least two 'your mom' jokes lol
 
@geek90 Welcome. Please read the room rules room-15.github.io
 
@code
@codeMagic Thank you, doing that now
 
lol
 
Glad I had the volume muted from my meeting earlier :)
 
Well at least he seems honest. We'll know if he was.
 
8:46 PM
90? you's how old now?
 
goddamit this game is so difficult
hell
 
What game? The game of life? Because I'm still trying to figure out how to lower the difficulty settings too.
 
be rich
 
Stolen from one of my favorite jokes:
> Does anyone know how to lower the difficulty setting on Tinder?
 
I have read and understood the rules
 
8:47 PM
\o/
welcome
 
@Eenvincible 25
 
Thanks, geek!
Also, you can edit your messages within 90 seconds
 
cM, you never told me when I first joined the gang
 
And watch the pinging thing. It does help to clarify who you're talking to, but if they're active in the room just use their name.
^^ Like Een just did to get cM's attention
 
Press the up arrow or click the arrow to the left of the message then edit Oh, sorry ,Een. But you seemed like a smart enough guy to figure it out
 
8:48 PM
sure
 
How are you, geek?
Is there something I can call you that doesn't sound insulting to me when I type it?
 
Lol
 
lol
 
k90
 
sure
g90
 
8:49 PM
got it
k90
g90 is better
 
You are henceforth know as g90
Yes, I can type that easy enough...that will do
Shit, another meeting in 10 mins. f me
 
has a nice ring to it
 
10/10 reasons cM calls people what he calls them is because it's easy for him to type.
 
this feels like a fun place
 
It's a good time.
 
8:51 PM
D:
 
?
 
no? 42? no?
nvm :|
 
Answer to life and everything
 
The new guy gets it
What I don't get is why isn't that a screenshot of a chrome tab.
 
because chrome is a battery hog
 
8:53 PM
That's a fair reason.
I am about to leave the office in a few minutes
 
Ah, well I mean I get 42, but I don't see why this calls for frowny face...
 
is that frowny face?
oh
 
:D would be smiling
 
yep i.e. OMG there are so many amazing fights this weekend :D
 
9:09 PM
(^◇^)
Wikipedia says thats a happy face
 
well the same page also lists the following
:‑) :) :D :o) :] :3 :c) :> =] 8) =) :} :^) :っ) Smiley or happy face.
 
that has the eyes on the flat side of the D though
with the eyes on the round side though
D:< D: D8 D; D= DX v.v D‑': Horror, disgust, sadness, great dismay[5][6]
 
(-‸ლ)
 
:-dfkjjKFASDFanflniufiusagf (I call this barfy face)
 
9:27 PM
hey Carl;
 
gonna go sleep
see ya tomorrow
 
cya
 
hey een
 
When the recruiter reschedules your phone call two days in a row. <<<
 
9:42 PM
Yesterday he was in a meeting that ran over. Today he was home sick, but emailed me 15 minutes before our call. (Probably because he waited until he got the notification)
like, why don't people cancel their appts in the morning when they realize they're not going to make them? It would have saved me a lot of stress leaving work early and getting somewhere to take the call on time
 
Yesterday you said today, then tomorrow. JUST DO IT.
 
6 hours ago, by McAdam331
You're not Foamy... You're not allowed to share Friday...
 
didn't used to be just his job
 
lol
 

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