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12:16 AM
@MaxHasADHD You finally mastered C?
 
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that's legal K&R C, b.t.w.
 
Ok, I don't understand.
Just saw the #define, understand more now.
 
and if you want to know what it does, it calculates pi by looking at its own area.
 
12:38 AM
no i get to go somewhere for a week in june for something special that is also very expensive
i will see charan
 
Max, you got in to WWDC?
 
maybe
i was also told not to tell so people don't think there is a lot of special tickets
 
If you haven't gotten a confirmation yet you are not going.
 
i am
 
Are your parents helping to pay for it (I hope)
 
12:40 AM
well i mean, idk.. they said they will email me a link to purchase in 2-6 hours, so 20 minutes left i guess. i called at 12:15
no i am paying 100%
 
That's a hell of an expense for a high school student.
Wowzers.
From app sale money?
 
they are helping me get a cheaper hotel? but thats it... spending my $$$
yes.. i have $8000 saved up still
 
1 min ago, by MaxHasADHD
i was also told not to tell so people don't think there is a lot of special tickets
And yet you are talking about it here?
 
i use to have like $10000 but i bought stuff... new TV and other stuff
lol yes
 
And you tweeted about it?
 
12:41 AM
Do you live in CA?
 
if he's going I'm calling the Truant Officers
 
i tweeted it before i knew i wasn't supposed to
 
If I were you I wouldn't do that.
 
when i called back he's said not to because people may think they have a ton left and they don't....
 
he should keep tweeting and posting and making lots of noises about it
 
12:42 AM
Btw, get AirBnb instead of hotel. Probably much cheaper.
 
I'm not. i stopped tweeting it after i knew
 
Congrats in any case.
 
There's a feature in Twitter to delete Tweets.
Yeah, congrats.
 
but why
 
Don't squander the opportunity.
 
12:42 AM
so if people ask if I'm gunna go to SF i say nope.. i won't be there? XD
 
I will be with you in the video streaming.
 
please annoy and anger every Apple employee you see there
 
Please say hi to Charan for me.
 
Ease up Michael.
 
oh will ya XD
 
12:43 AM
tell them they are incompetent boobs and that Palm is a better OS
 
ugh no email still XD
 
This makes my 3rd year failing to get in.
Sigh.
 
I'm sorry
 
don't feel so bad.
 
maybe they will call you also
since they hate me now XD
 
12:44 AM
in years past, it would take six months for the session videos to come out
and now they come out the next day. You're essentially getting WWDC for free with your membership.
the only thing you're missing is incredibly awful conference hall food.
it gets progressively worse year after year.
 
Yeah, don't feel so bad. It's pretty much random selection. We can all stream together the videos.
 
I really don't like watching session videos though.
 
do you think you'd like sitting in the back row of an overfull conference hall more, Duncan?
 
How about if we watch session videos together?
 
awwwww, a romantic movie night....
<3 <3 <3 <3
 
12:45 AM
XD
 
Steady lad...
 
lol not you Duncan....
just to charan XD
 
The networking and face-to-face time with Apple engineers is the key part of WWDC.
 
i am shy
 
The presentations are more engaging in person as well.
 
12:47 AM
isn't it tradition to spend night outside WWDC? I will be lonely
and see people i hate
i hate bloggers
i will make flow stickers
lol i can get free shirts and stickers now
 
You hate bloggers? Tech bloggers?
Or social media bloggers? They are very different animals.
 
I'm a tech blogger...
 
Software development blogs are useful.
 
i hate like the guy from imore
and guys from iDownloadBlog
i dislike XD
 
Social media blogging is stupid.
My daughter watches the ShayTards (sp?) religiously. I don't understand the appeal.
 
12:49 AM
There's a wisdom that says "if you can't say something nice, don't say anything."
I hope you do that in WWDC
 
from earlier: Everything to know about iOS 8 and OS X 10.10 (Roundup + New Details) http://9to5mac.com/2014/04/07/everything-to-know-about-ios-8-and-os-x-10-10-roundup-new-details/
i hate this kind of stuff
people be tweeting photos of iOS 8 and the new apps a hour before WWDC, i be like "WHY THE FUQ DID I SPEND MONEY IF I GET TWEETER FOR FREE!!!!!"
 
I don't like it too. That's why I never read their websites.
 
well i can't escape it unless i unfollow all, and disable retweets from everyone somehow
then block any keyword i can think of but it would also block tweets i need to see
people will retweet these people:/
 
But blogs like Ray Wenderlich's or David Rönnqvist's are very useful.
I've probably spent a grand total of less than 15 minutes on twitter in my entire life
 
i like ray wenderlich. he doesnt spoil iOS and iphones
these sites say rumors, but pssshh.. 99% right is no rumor no more
like instead of being surprised in july for a new iPhone, i now know there could be one coming in july. so if it happens i will go off on blogs
 
12:53 AM
I only pay attention to people who know what they're talking about.
 
i know 99% of the people don't know but i want to be surpsied and be like "WHAATT JUST HAPPENED?:O" now I'm like "meh i saw this a month ago"
 
I try not to waste energy worrying about idiots.
 
The developers at Twitter developed the unfollow feature so you can unfollow them, Max.
 
lol, that site posted almost identical iOS 7 picture before WWDC
so they know all
mehhh.. people still RT ( i can block i know) but if a random developer who doesnt feel the same or a twitter friend be like "omg new iPhone in july!" i can't block that :O
 
Meh. I don't care that much about the next new UI. I care about real, useful features, and knowing about them before release helps me take advantage of them.
Anyway, I need a shower. I went for a bike ride after work today and I'm stinky.
 
12:55 AM
Max: So don't follow them -_-
 
i just wish they had like "[rumor]" or some keyword before each twitter post that i can block out, so i can find out news like mailbox 2.0 is out, but not know about that stuff. or create new tweeter
 
Have a nice shower
You use Tweetbot, right?
 
yes
 
Just block 9to5mac.com, etc.
 
ok
lol i have mark gurman muted forever
 
12:56 AM
Who's that guy?
 
9to5mac editor
who sucks
 
Why not just unfollow him?
 
i never followed him. i just muted so i don't see RTs
because 9to5 RT him and some others i know RT him who i like to follow
 
Why not unfollow 9to5? lol
 
i need to know news
like free apps, app updates, app reveiws
 
1:00 AM
IMO, all you need are: macrumors and daringfireball. That's the essential news.
(and also my blog if you're into it)
 
daringicecube
 
@EnricoSusatyo (tiny plug)
 
(tiny tiny plug)
 
nobody es texting me
 
Did anyone check if @borrrden's alive? Haven't seen him in a while.
 
1:04 AM
time to submit app
 
There you are, borrrden.
 
I wasn't feeling that well yesterday
So I took a day off from work
 
Ah ok, nice.
Had a good rest?
I am still in shock that adult Japanese don't have Christmas dates on Christmas.
 
Lol we do just not all day ones like kids
I watched 9 episodes of "Orange is the New Black"
I hope I am not the only person that likes it :p. Apparently not since the second season is coming
 
Well evidently you are the only one who likes it between the two of us =P
 
1:17 AM
Anybody ever use this -> xmind.net
My coworker found it and made a nice flowchart for our current project
Also you can quickly share them over LAN
 
I used MindMap before, I think that's what it was called.
MindNode, that's it.
But now I've just remembered that your colleagues uses Windows.
 
Well I think this would most be for the devs
all of which have both
I got 68 points on ahhhhh.com
 
I think I only answered one right in ahhhhh.com
counting the right number of h is like counting the right number of r in your name.
 
Yay
Gawd, now I realize where I left off last week
More work with text in cocos-2dx...I think I will die
Working with text in openGL is...**obnoxious**
Because it renders from the bottom up
You can't simply flip it because then the text is upside down
And you can't simply render it from the end because then it won't look natural when the first line ends halfway through
So you need to pull allllll kinds of bullcrap
And now it has to be EDITABLE you say?!
And use a cursor?!
I'm going to get hemorrhoids
And on top of that, there needs to be lines like a piece of paper
That was bullcrappity enough to do in the native API
Something must be wrong with our fonts because as soon as you type Japanese then the fonts no longer respect the font line height and the text mismatches the lines
We found one font that works OK because it's bat shit crazy and has huge line heights, but that one no longer works in iOS 7
And don't even get me started on Windows, which requires dropping into the ridiculously complex DirectX APIs just to get the damn font information
I assume Android probably just said "fuck fonts" and didn't include this functionality at all
But now I get not only the joy of making a lined text view but also making the entire editable text view from scratch since the one in cocos-2dx is lame
 
1:32 AM
Sounds like you're having a difficult time.
 
I swear it is going to be so glorious that it will instantly give every woman on the planet an orgasm
Which would be weird since I sit next to a woman at work...
 
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLL
 
I guess Orange is the New Black has perverted my mind even more than usual
Alright, time to stop thinking about tan lines and start thinking about text lines
There is no multi line editable text control in cocos...so what to do ...hmmm
I'm thinking of setting the number of lines ahead of time to save myself a bunch of headaches
Then I will just have that number of labels inside, and each time the user inputs a letter, I will measure it and add its size to a size map
That will let me have a quick function for calculating where a cursor should go upon click
Then insert that letter into the label and measure its size. If it overflows, then shift the letters into the next line's label
Hopefully my ghetto measurement of "font point size equals line height" will be close enough for a small number of lines
I'm feeling well rested and energized today though so I will tackle this problem, even though only Enrico is here saying anything!
I see someone starred my company's fuckup from last week 6 times ><
3
I think I need an iPad so I can use my company's software. It will help my girlfriend with English I think.
I should see if they have any bargains at the used goods shop
 
so none of you are going? not even to hangout
borrrden you live in SF right? or is that michael
someone visit me in the WWDC line
 
I live in Tokyo
How could you forget that :p
Michael lives in SF
One day I might live there
Maybe after the Tokyo olympics
 
1:42 AM
idk XD
well he should visit me, if i go:/ no email still
 
He will visit you just to slap you :D
 
i won't tell him where i am in line then
 
Enrico, did you know that "BitCoin" existed in the 1970s ?
 
I did not.
How will an iPad improve your girlfriend's English?
 
What is going to be so glorious Borrrden?
 
1:45 AM
Our company made 4 different digital English textbooks for iPad
 
What is BitCoin in 1970?
 
and Windows tablet
There was a company called Barter Systems Inc
They took money and gave you "trade units" in return
Sounds almost exactly like bitcoin haha
 
i invented bit coin in the 1920s with time machine
in an alternate universe
 
In the end, they were deemed taxable and the IRS required them to be reported, just like BitCOin
 
Wow, really?
That is very interesting.
 
1:48 AM
@DuncanC My "text view" control for Cocos2d-x
Here is the decision re: Barter Systems -> leagle.com/decision/199013159utcm72_1111
 
oic.
 
i am going to bring a sleeping bag and sleep on top of the mascone building
 
That must be a pretty special text view. Or you have some... unusual female acquaintances.
 
so.. should i email that apple guy back like in a few hours or tomorrow if i don't get the email?
 
watch out for parachuting glassholes though.
 
1:50 AM
he called at like 9, i called back, talked for 5 min and then said 2-6 hours.. its almost 7 hours
 
Email him now, then asking for a call back tomorrow morning. Are you in the Pacific time zone?
 
Hahaha it's going to be pretty special..but probably only for me
I still am upset that we are using cocos2d-x in the first place
 
ya, same apple time..
 
Why not SpriteKit?
 
multiplatform
 
1:52 AM
Ah.
That makes sense.
 
get those android thoughts out of here!
JK.. i like android actually, since you can tweak system
 
Agreed. The "walled garden" of iOS gets old sometimes.
It's my damn machine, let me do what I want with it!
And I fear Apple is going down the same path with Mac OS as well.
The day they lock Mac OS and don't let me run whatever I want on it is the day I abandon ship and become a UNIX developer
 
I don't really care about the walled garden
Because there really is not much special that I actually want to do with my phone
I would definitely care on my desktop though
 
I don't think Apple's going that way at all, Duncan.
 
2:18 AM
I sure hope not.
 
If they were doing that, they'd have done it years ago.
The fact that in Mavericks, Mountain Lion, and Lion they didn't try to restrict anything significant at all shows that they only care about restricting the regular people who often got their Macs infected by random apps, and letting the power users do their things.
 
Not so much with iOS
 
I hope it continues like that. Adding idiot-proofing to the OS is a good thing.
There are enough bot-nets of corrupted computers out there already.
 
Yep
I can't go a week without some bot trying to break into our SFTP
Our ban list is closing in on 100 IP addresses :p
I'm always excited to see a new IP prefix to add to my collection
Today 74.x.x.x was added
 
All of 75.x.x.x? Good lord, that's a huge swath of the net to block.
Surely that sort of shotgun approach blocks more legitimate addresses than corrupted addresses?
That's over 16 million IP addresses.
1/256th of all possible IPV4 addresses.
 
2:29 AM
I thought someone would say that
That's not the actual address I blocked :p
I meant I got an IP address starting with 74
 
Oh, ok.
 
Though only two or three people legitimately connect anyway
I could probably block all of 74 with no consequences haha
 
2 or 3 people total? Why not have an allow list on your firewall then?
Or are these home users without static IP addresses?
 
Because I'm lazy :p
And I don't feel like asking people for their IP address every time we add a client
I'm not sure about their IP situation
I actually don't really know how to control the firewall properly, so I set up sshguard
And also sometimes our clients access from home
Lol, in that case they use the password version...and they do it wrong and they've gotten themselves banned before
 
Good afternoon everyone
hey borrrden, it's decided I'm moving to warabi
btw is there anyone know how often apple will transfer the money to our bank?permonth?
 
2:37 AM
LOL warabi
Close to me still but further from Toko
Yes, per month
 
yes it's in saitama
so I can go to michael's beer pong next month
I see, permonth then
thanks man
 
user457812
wat
 
user457812
What did Mike rope you into?
 
wait it's another michael nil
not michael dautermann
haha
 
user457812
Ah.
 
user457812
2:39 AM
Well, I could see our Mike doing that.
 
haha
 
Time for bed. Goodnight all.
 
2:51 AM
good night duncan
 
3:01 AM
Lolol
Warabi is still pretty far from Soka
 
really?
actually I didn't have any idea where is soka
wait going to check google map
 
You have to change trains 3 times
 
yes
but it's still in my walking distance
so there is no problem
haha
 
Huh?
It's over 10 km
That's your walking distance?
You have too much time haha
 
3:28 AM
for weekend
not for weekday
hahahha
 
3:45 AM
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4:39 AM
Hi. Is it possible to remove the transparency within the camera controls of uiimagepicker?
or this can only be done by fully customizing the overlay?
 
4:59 AM
@nayoso Still insane...
 
I think I asked this question before. What is beer pong?
Drinking beer while playing ping pong?
 
sort of
 
Look it up there are plenty of websites ;)
Some people do actual ping pong but that is hardcore
 
check out this fresh hell I've just discovered in the project: dropbox.com/s/c0cwrntldle9vjw/…
the isFavourite method is changing something instead of returning something! Great.
(and some parts of the project uses british spelling, some others uses US)
 
5:45 AM
Hahha I walk quite a lot borrrden
it's a part of my exercise
that's crazy enrico, slam that man
 
walking alone is boring for me
 
Got invite for StackExchange iOS app as alpha tester
 
I see, sometimes I also walk with my friends
I walk with michael once
from roppongi to shinbashi and go back to mita
not too far
 
I went jogging this morning
I posted proudly on my Facebook page
Even though my time was soooo slow
 
yes I see that
you were a runner in the past borrrden?
 
5:55 AM
nayoso: now you know what I am going through today.
 
HAHAHHA
 
Yeah in high school
I was in the cross country club, and track and field club
 
wow man
cross country club
is it running across the country???
 
Cross country means running in countryside, not across the country. LOL
Actually, this is the real meaning:
> Cross country running is a sport in which teams and individuals run a race on open-air courses over natural terrain.
 
HAHAHA
 
6:09 AM
I've used this iOS 6/7 delta X/Y property in interface builder a few times now... Is there any way to access these from code? dropbox.com/s/ujyiu9s8xqlcdar/…
Bah screenshot still uploading.
 
lolololol
Yes, and our trail was pretty good
Through a forest
 
I don't think that's possible enrico
apple didn't have any preview for that
 
Yeah, that's what I figured.
There must be some private property though.
Because ultimately interface builder files are kinda compiled down to Obj-C, as far as I understand.
 
Yep
 
borrrden, nayoso, my girlfriend's moving to Hong Kong
And I told her that since she'll be in Hong Kong, I might go to Japan with her sometime this year, because it's quite close to Hong Kong.
 
6:17 AM
Unless the XIB reader simply reads it as is and adjusts the frame there
 
Hmmm you can just check the ios version enrico
ah yes you already said it yesterday
 
Ah.... You reckon that delta thing is actually like an if statement instead of just a property?
Interesting.
iOS Simulator is so slow when switching from iOS 6 to 7.
This is the diff for that iOS6/7 delta property: dropbox.com/s/ofvi12feiorrzrw/…
So it's an <inset> with key of "insetFor6xAndEarlier". Quite a funny name.
 
so it's a XML too
 
6:44 AM
Ugh, I got charged $200 for changing my plane ticket >.<
I hate my life lol
 
you sounds like swaggers enrico
 
room mode changed to Gallery: anyone may enter, but only approved users can talk
 
I'm really bummed by this plane ticket change fee :/
I should've just book the right dates back then.
 
and good morning
 
Good morning Jim
Say something to cheer me up from losing $200.
 
7:18 AM
Go and make a nice cup of tea and stop to take in a moments thought.
best i can do, my brain is totally fried atm
 
Thanks Jim.
That was nice.
 
 
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10:14 AM
Ashish you have write access
Read the rules and let me know that you understand them within 10 minutes
 
10:28 AM
@AshishKakkad Time is up
I'm the only one here and I am leaving Anonymous, so you should probably try again another time :p
 
Im here
im still debating it
with myself
and i dont get on with me so ....
 
11:23 AM
@Abizern @MichaelDautermann need some help regarding offline map
 
you should also ping NoelCower too
 
can you help ?
 
I dunno...
 
is there anyone who can give me few hints on offline Map
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Q: The best way to implement Offline Map in iOS

MayurCan anyone suggest the best way to implement the offline map with following features. Add MKOverlayView with local static Map image Restrict to zoom outside the MKOverlay area Google Map should not appear on the screen Add multiple annotations of some fixed locations Tracking & rotating I hav...

 
11:54 AM
@EnricoSusatyo can you help ?
 
No, my brain is completely fried today.
 
same here
 
 
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5:49 PM
iOS 7 treats VC presented with vc.modalPresentationStyle = UIModalPresentationCustom; as bastard view controllers...
appears it ignores anything you tell it to about rotation
 
user986408
hey guys, any ideas on how to hide/remove the return key on the keyboard?
 
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