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9:00 AM
Because travelling in Sydney costs $46 a week, then our Transport minister challenged everyone to break the system lol.
> "I want people to beat the system," Gladys Berejiklian said. "I want people to find the savings because they are there to be had," she said.
 
so why don't you actually hack the database?
 
Enrico i thought you moved?
 
Why would I hack the database?
Yeah I moved temporarily.
 
because then's it really is free :D
 
temporarily? why
 
9:02 AM
Long story.
 
move to SF temporarily
 
yay captain got my ping
 
We can go get mcdonalds
 
come to brissy and well skateboard lol.
 
No, you move here.
It's so hard moving to the US lol.
 
9:04 AM
US is easy
we got 
I got my  mug
 
Seriously, US visa requirement is freaking ridiculous.
 
and  jacket and  shirts.. I need some  socks and  pants
 hat? where is it
 
Took my mom 1.5 months to get a holiday visa to the US last year.
 
they make those:P they dont sell socks or pants:O
 
Also cost a lot of money.
 
9:04 AM
 undies!
 
@Mutch95 I don't know.
I've only really messed about with unity.
 
They dont make them Mutch:[
Also if you ever go to WWDC, buy like all the shirts, they dont have them at 
 
you're killing me captain haha. unity sucks for 2d .-. well for the genre I'm doing
 
I got this sweatshirt from WWDC (not special though) but wasn't sold in the company store:P
holy shit its 1am
 
And even then I've only really played around with scripting rather than using the actual editor.
 
9:06 AM
I got school soonish
 
i'm scripting it aswell. it imports an xml map
but the shaders don'ts work well enough so i think i'm going to have to code my own shader
max how old are you?
 
i had it in my head you were like 24 lol :p
 
lol why
 
no idea
 
9:09 AM
How old are you Mutch?
 
i'm the youngest in this group chat right?
16
 
my birthday was on Tuesday
 
still in high school la la >.>
 
Which i spent going to , who sent me a rejection email as I was walking outside their HQ
 
well happy late birthday max
 
9:10 AM
lol thanks
anyways its bed time, night
 
Goodnight buddy.
 
night max
these typos enrico...
 
Where?
Mashable? Lol
 
i'm a bad typer lol i look at the keyboard when i'm typing
so i woke up this morning at 9. Didn't have breakfast till 2pm
 
9:21 AM
i was too busy working on my game haha
i want to get this done within 2 months
release it on steam and the app store
 
Haha nice
Let me know when you release it.
Ok time to go home.
Animation is still weird. Bah.
 
9:37 AM
what are you making?
 
maybe i can deconstruct someone else's shader and then construct my own from the parts i understand
hi
 
Please Guide me.... how to read multiple gpx files and the draw the path on map in iOS
 
you're going to have to do some research man. i've never even heard of a gpx file
@EnricoSusatyo the results from this shader is really hideous
it's like it just adds a gradient onto of the already black gradient which the shader makes
 
9:57 AM
@Mutch95 Have you tried GameDevelopment chat over on GDSE?

 Game Development

Game development and other polite discussion. Game development...
 
cheers :)
 
 
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user457812
10:58 AM
I really can't believe there are still people whining about Apple having a walled garden approach to their App Store. Bloody twits.
 
walled garden approach?
 
user457812
Yes. You only get in as a result of paying a fee (mainly for signing certificates) and submitting your app for their approval. Some people think they shouldn't be allowed to do this.
 
it's there server of course they can
android even does it
dickwads...
opps haha
 
user457812
Yes, that's why those people are mostly universally regarded as stupid.
 
haha
 
11:35 AM
Right bought a wondows phone and windows machine
time to test how wel our game runs on both
this should be interesting
 
12:26 PM
Hello All, can anybody help me with this
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Q: Working with AutoLayout using UITableViewCell

RanjitI am working with autoLayout, I want to place a UIlabel on UITableViewCell, which should be always at the right of the cell and the center of right. So here is what I want to achieve So here you can see label named RC which I am talking about. So here my cell height changes dynamically, so w...

 
12:49 PM
wow learning about shaders really just fills your tabs up
 
1:49 PM
I hate testers
Fix something or add something, then they complain about another thing
Just got a complaint about videos being silent in silent mode-_-
 
2:04 PM
Yeah shaders are a whole subject in themselves
 
user457812
2:29 PM
Shaders are hell.
 
but lovely when they work
and workign when there efficient
 
2:45 PM
Hmm im trying to do a submision but it keeps timing out
:_(
Anyone else having issues
?
 
I got instructor's license today
 
user457812
Shaders are lovely when they work, but getting them working is a pain, and I sometimes miss the stateful hell that was fixed function programming
 
user457812
For all you can do with shaders, it's still way more overhead mentally to do any of it
 
3:04 PM
I have to be honest i do miss OGLES 1 too
but then again some of the effects we are putting in this game would not be possible using fixed function
so
 
3:24 PM
Please let me submit our clients app :_(
 
3:34 PM
@Gudiya I'm right here
you are now an instructor?
 
Hello
Heavy snowfall ATM.
 
4:03 PM
Where?
-3
Q: Why 64bit processor in iPhone 6?

AngieId like to know exactly if theres something that actually help performance, speed currently.? Is there an app right now that can benefit from 64bit processor? How.

This guy does not know 5S also has 64 bit?
 
ummm... he's just asking an opinion question.
Apple heavily advertised the fact (to developers) that the 5S ship was 64-bit...
at least when they announced the device
 
4:31 PM
@MichaelDautermann is here
I mean I can drive in presence of someone who has a permanent license
 
You mean learner's permit?
@Gudiya Thats called learner's permit, I believe.
 
4:46 PM
oh
yes
@rohan-patel You have license?
 
No.
I will get in January after coming back from India
But legally I can drive with my Indian license for 2 years with my I-94 and passport with me in NY.
Be scared American people. Very scared. @Gudiya has got learner's permit.
 
5:06 PM
Please let me submit :_(
 
Just futilely cleaned snow off the vehicle
Its piling back
 
@Owatch Where do you live?
 
North East United States
 
Lol. But which state?
 
One of them.
 
5:16 PM
NY/MA/NH/PA/NB/Maine
 
None of those ones. But you're in the right area
 
5:28 PM
The nice thing about this snow is the quiet
The neighbourhood is silent, except for the occasional bird. Falling snow muffles everything.
 
6:05 PM
Even the screams of the orphan children
 
6:39 PM
Hello. Can someone help me with tihs? stackoverflow.com/questions/26567934/…
 
 
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7:55 PM
@nil you use Android Studio?
 
user457812
8:11 PM
No.
 
8:27 PM
Interesting, Xcode uses constants like IBOutlet to replace themselves with pointers to objects that are yet to be instantiated
If #define is a constant, which I'm pretty sure it is.
 
user457812
It's a macro.
 
It replaces itself with something else before the compiler sees it
 
user457812
It replaces itself with nothing.
 
A macro is where you have a function behind a #define
 
user457812
No, it isn't.
 
8:30 PM
hold
 
user457812
I'm not even sure if iboutlet is still necessary since its main purpose was header processing from when interface builder was a separate app.
 
why not nil
 
user457812
Why not what?
 
use android studio
 
Got it
@nil The book states "When you use #define to do function-like stuff instead of substituting a value, you are creating a macro"
 
8:34 PM
stop reading it
 
He told me that a macro was not when a function was behind a #define.
 
damn:/ an hour downloading shit for android to do homework
Looks like im taking an F tonight
 
#define is listed under Chapter 25: Constants
 
God damnit:/
Great..
Android Studio can't find google play services
Need google play services to do the maps part of the chapter and it can't find them:/ coming up on 2 hours to just install shit and i have 6 more to finish-_-
SO has no answers really, the files aren't in the correct place as far as i can tell
 
Sounds like you're having a fun afternoon.
 
user457812
8:42 PM
@Owatch The book is wrong.
 
Nope
 
user457812
And potentially offensive to C programmers.
 
@nil It is what the book says . .
 
user457812
#define always defines a macro. That is what it does.
 
user457812
A macro is anything that is replaced with something else, not just function-like macros.
 
8:43 PM
Email the authors?
 
user457812
They're probably trying to avoid confusing the Obj-C beginners.
 
user457812
Almost said newbies, but I hate that word.
 
nil is right, #define is is a straight pre-compiler injection afaik then it's parsed and compiled as if it were code. the #define statement itself isn't an object or anything except text to inject.
 
I am just reiterating what the book has told me. I'll change my notes though
 
God damnit:/
Might as well skip school, many are anyways and Ill get out of the 0 for 1 more week
Updating to the release candidate
 
8:48 PM
Just for proof. .
 
release looks kinda cool:O Changed icoin
@nil do i need the Google Repository?
i downloaded the services and froyo services
 
user457812
The what?
 
user457812
I have no idea what you're talking about.
 
user457812
Join the Android room and stop asking Android questions in here.
 
I tried..
 
user457812
8:53 PM
When?
 
I was still waiting to be let in:P aren't you the mod?
like an hour ago
 
user457812
No.
 
I checked like 10 min ago
maybe they let me in
nope
 
Do you think the definition of Macro within the book is trivial enough to let slide? Or is this something I should inquire about?
 
user457812
Inquire about from who?
 
8:54 PM
lmfao
 
user457812
I think people have a horrible understanding of the C preprocessor in general and the only good explanation is the documentation
 
user457812
Assuming you read the GNU C preprocessor docs, anyway, which is what everyone uses
 
What do you mean from who? From me. I would inquire about whether their definition is unintentionally incorrect or left out for the sake of simplicity with beginners.
 
user457812
I don't think it matters because the author decided to explain it poorly and that's their problem
 
. . okay.
 
9:03 PM
@owatch what the book means is MAX(A,B) isn't a direct one to one text injection, it replaces the A/B values with the value supplied. Then that string is inserted directly.
but that's all still pre compiler stuff
 
Yes, it does replace A and B with supplied values, then performs the provided function with A and B. Then returns one or the other based on the if statement in the function.
 
user457812
It doesn't perform anything
 
user457812
Macros only insert text
 
Who knows then.
I thought it did
 
the text inserted by the macro will get parsed and compiled then run at run time
 
9:08 PM
Then it inserts the function as text, and that gets run after
 
the macro itself just inserts the text before the compilation process
 
The text is a function though.
Not quite what I mean one sec
The function is performed inside the NSLog() call
 
morning !
 
user457812
Not exactly
 
9:13 PM
that should help clear things up about the difference between text injection of macros and an actual function.
 
user457812
That said, we're getting into how exactly function calls and such work if you decide to go into what happens after text is inserted
 
I understand the linked question up to this point: "When macros contain multiple statements, you can get in trouble with control-flow constructs:"
Then I do not understand
 
ok without { }, then only the first statement falls under the conditional
so if(x<y) { t = x }; then x = y; and y = t; both happen regardless of the conditional
because text was directly replaced and not actually evaluated normally like a function would be.
 
t = x only happens if x is actually less than y?
 
right, which isn't what you'd expect.
you'd expect all 3 to not happen if the condition failed
 
9:19 PM
Never mind, I see. The use of the brackets is just not how I'm used to seeing it
 
user457812
Hence why a lot of people wrap their macros in do { /* code here */ } while(0)
 
user457812
Anyway, I'm gonna go wander over to Safeway to pick up something to munch on.
 
@DaveS Why does this happen?
Why does it not consider all three statements to be inside the {}
 
because it's a very simple mechanism, it's both the pro and the con to define statements
another way to fix it would be if(x < y){swap(x,y);}
but if you forget the braces you have those weird issues and a function is a better choice.
 
9:34 PM
alright
 
functions have a level of overhead for checking types and what not, macros do not which can improve performance when something very simple is repeated a lot. You just need to be careful the improved performance comes at the cost of less safety.
 
Does ObjC have eval?
 
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Q: eval in Objective-C

vlad Possible Duplicate: Is there something like Matlab's eval statement in Objective-C 2.0? Is there an eval function (as in lisp, javascript, python, ruby...) in Objective-C? What I mean by eval is a function that can take in arbitrary Objective-C code (possibly having class definitions,...

 
Oh, I was going to make a joke about using it with Macros
But if it's not in ObjC nevermind
 
lol
now I want to hear this joke, it doesn't need to be possible to be funny
 
9:38 PM
It was just going to be about using eval with macros for my online banking app.
Eval in Python is very risky to use
And not recommended at all, for security reasons.
It was a stupid quip I had thought of saying thats all.
 
ah I see yeah throw in macros and money and you have a bad situation
 
@chris when i get money i'm buying your game!
opps
wrong chat
 
spammer, ban him.
 
lol.
How you going Owatch?
 
How am I doing, do you mean?
I am doing well.
 
9:42 PM
can i call you ghost?
i want to call you ghost
 
Sure.
It's what I am. .
 
what projects are you working on atm?
 
Me?
 
who else is here man? haha
 
I've suspended all projects until I'm done reading my books
 
9:45 PM
what books ?
 
I had an older one called Meep, an IRC client I'd made.
I've got some books on Objective C, I am using them to give myself a good understanding of the language before I venture into doing anything
 
do you muck around with objective c?
 
No.
 
then you won't learn much?
 
I muck around with Python a lot more.
 
9:46 PM
trial and error is a great learning method
 
Well, I've spent a lot of time with Python, so programming isn't completely new to me.
 
and it'll increase your knowledge base because you'll want to learn about how to do something else
 
In any case, I know what you mean. I still do not want to distract myself until I am done with my books. They have examples and small challenges to do, so it is not just reading.
 
i mean actually working with the syntax
i guess that works
i read a programming book on objective-c twice before i even had a computer to program with
it was my first language
 
The syntax isn't exactly the problem. It's the new stuff like protocols, ect.
 
9:48 PM
i ended up reading the book another 4 times
is python oop?
 
You re-read it front to back four times?
 
yep haha
 
Yes, Python supports OOP.
 
i wanted to learn to program
so i read Objective-c programming for dummies :p
 
What do you mean? Don't you already?
I thought I was the only one here who hadn't had extensive experience yet.
 
9:49 PM
no this was back about a year ago now
i've only been programming for about a year now
how old are you?
 
Two years older than you.
But I started with Python at your age.
 
oh wow so you've had a longer experience with programming
 
Well, when I started with Python I really could not commit too much time to it. It was really half reading a book I'd had on it and more just mucking around.
 
i couldn't comprehend python at all haha :p when i tried it
 
Eventually I found something I wanted to do. Someone asked me to create an IRC for us. I thought it was a neat idea and spent a good couple months really invested into accomplishing what I'd wanted. It was a struggle but I did manage to create it in the end.
I later added a GUI, then continued to improve it for several months.
 
9:53 PM
at least you've completed a project
i can only seem to start them
 
When I started with ObjC sometime later, I promised myself I'd finish the books I got first.
 
how long you been reading it?
 
It had a lot of concepts I could have used that would have saved me a lot of time and effort.
I don't read it anymore, that was two years ago.
 
I started with Java in college, did a bit of python, C++, lisp and other stuff but mostly Java, did C and C++ for about a year after college, now I do Java - Android, and objective C - iOS and a bit of PHP for websites or wordpress plugins.
 
oh what about the one you're reading atm
i'm using c# for my course
and i'm now going onto sql
which is interesting and scary
 
9:55 PM
The one I am reading, which I bought out of high school, is about Objective C. I wanted to invest in something I could get something more useful out of.
 
cause i haven't seen a task that actually works with sql...
 
sql's easy it's not even a language by normal standards.
 
Python is awesome, but limited when it comes to creating Applications, ect.
Its easier to use as a scripting language than as something to build Apps or programs out of.
 
i think it's all just writing essay's which sucks
 
sql is less about the statements and more about understanding exactly what it's doing
 
9:57 PM
Writing essays with SQL?
 
it's raw data manipulation.
 
user457812
SQL is about set theory and breaking it over your knee
 
^^
discrete mathematics is a good course to take before learning SQL
 
not writing essays with SQL just writing about SQL
it's in thew programming course i'm in
 
I see.
My school had no programming courses.
 
10:02 PM
it's not in school :(
 
They had an Information Technology course, but it was borderline useless if you were going in wanting to learn to program. It was mostly just facts, and about finding issues with proposed IT systems.
 
i even complained about that the whole year in my int class. i think i convinced the teacher to do programming the whole year next year :D
My ITN class is photoshop but i thinks that's changed over my complaining lol
 
The final exam was pretty easy too, they just pitched "IT Systems" at you and you just point out how it violates your privacy and voila, you get a 7/7.
 
no the programming course i do is online
 
Oh.
 
10:05 PM
so it's like ontop of schooling
 
onto?
 
on top
 
Oh, misread.
Whatever floats your battleship. .
 
alright so today. my goal is to learn how to write shaders
 
user457812
10:22 PM
Cue screaming.
 
Maybe his goal is long term?
 
not entirely haha
i'm just fixing a lighting issue in unity
 
user457812
I write engines for fun and I still hate shaders.
 
:'|
I used Unity once
School project wanted me to make a 3D model of our campus
 
it's unity 2d it's firkin weird how lighting works
oh wow
 
10:26 PM
Made it in Blender, exported to Unity3d. I procrastinated so I stayed up on the night it was due.
48 hours later it was basically working
 
sounds like me haha
 
It wasn't good, but it worked
I think that's the only time I've actually stayed up that long.
 
hahaha
 
The other kids got away with making Wordpress sites and stuff
 
user457812
I used Unity once and then I wrote my own engine because I'm too lazy to learn someone else's system
3
 
10:30 PM
You wrote a whole engine?
I mean, could it do everything you wanted?
 
user457812
It did everything I wanted it to do at the time.
 
What did you want it do to?
 
user457812
i.e., drawing text/shapes, event handling, rendition, etc.
 
Were you making a game?
 
user457812
Yes.
 
10:32 PM
Did you complete it?
What was it about?
 
i wish i was more like nil.
 
That's a bit Mutch, is it not?
heh
I'll be back
Later
 
that joke though haha.
laters
 
user457812
Nope. I scrap all projects because I get bored.
 
10:43 PM
haha
 

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