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3:00 PM
I thought it would have been easy to convert ISO date and just keep the timezone it was in
just seems to be a bloody mess
 
yeah date time manipulation is hell
 
and probably would have been better if we stored both an ISO date and a local time
Every thing I've found is how to convert it to another timezone when I'm searching for how to keep the timezone as the timezone it was locally played in
 
I think you may be mixing up the terms, ISO is just a representation
 
ISO is the format it's stored is it not? E.g. UK is +01:00
 
+01:00 is the timezone offset part of a date object, according to ISO yes
 
3:04 PM
Most of app saving the time in milliseconds
and its easy to convert to any timezone which we need
 
3:16 PM
mark, maybe this has some useful information w3.org/TR/NOTE-datetime
it's a pretty short doc
 
It's time to go home
 
have a nice weekend
 
3:33 PM
bye
 
It's frustrating because I know exactly what the issue is, I just haven't seen anything which solves my issue
 
have you verified that the issue is what you think it is?
 
Mark - How are you reading in a time?
 
ERIC IS BACK
 
Hurray!
 
3:44 PM
eric did not found any affordable pants
so eric won't have brittish pants this month
 
Time as a String / Time as a Date / Time as a long - Some of these contain Timezone and some don't
Boo to pants-less Eric.
 
how does he know
 
he posted bits of code about 1 page up graems
 
@TimCastelijns java.lang.NullPointerException: Attempt to invoke virtual method 'android.view.View android.support.design.widget.CoordinatorLayout.findViewById(int)' on a null object reference
when trying to set the CoordinatorLayout in the child. :/
of course it's null, I'm trying to set it!
 
rookie mistake
 
3:47 PM
?
 
oh misunderstood
 
Any one encountered this issue code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=225679. None of the solutions work on N.
 
show the line of code please
 
LOL
just realised I butchered the line.
definitely a rookie mistake.
cheers.
 
Raised a question for the issue I'm having: stackoverflow.com/questions/41767528/…
Hopefully it makes sense
 
3:50 PM
woah
whole friday is full of fucking issues, no wonder it's trump's day
 
how was exam?
 
tomorrow
 
Will try changing the lat long to germany and see if it's +1
 
it's still today
 
3:51 PM
mark, is UK currently in UTC+1?
I thought not
 
uk is GMT
so is portugal and canary islands
and ireland
 
but in DST, it is GMT+1, but it is not DST currently
 
then +1 are spain france netherlands germany italy switzerland denmark and that bunch of countries between italy and germany
then +2 rumania i think
then +3 poland
 
UK is +1 GMT atm
I think
 
then +4 russia
 
3:53 PM
I just checked mark, it is not :D
 
What the flip
When did it change?
Oh wait
 
DST ended a while ago
 
15:53:16 GMT
DST starts on may and ends on oct/nov
 
Ah, the round was before oct/nov
 
yup we're gmt right now
 
3:54 PM
mark, worry not, the skeet is gonna help you
 
26th August 2016
 
Holy shit Skeet commented under my question!
 
get me an autograph :DD
 
3:58 PM
he came up to a conference near my uni.
my mate has a selfie with him. xD
 
jealous
 
let me find it lol.
 
what
link
or it didnt happen
 
oh no i meant the comment
lol awesome
 
4:04 PM
Are you able to use java.time instead of java.util.Date/Calendar? If so, that should make your life easier... — Jon Skeet 11 mins ago
5
 
I'm not sure if I can
 
awesome. there is so much to learn from that guy. Just looking at his top most answers
 
Also this hasn't updated since I changed my location again
it's still giving me -05:00 despite being set in Paris :|
what is going on
explodes
 
\oo guys
 
OMG
to the starwall
 
4:07 PM
Mark, are you hard set on using an ISO date here? I'm wondering if using millis/seconds since epoch would be a good fit here, as you should be able to represent that locally as new Date(timeinmillis)
 
Btw I googled that picture, no clue who that is
\o een
 
@petey the date which is stored in our servers is ISO to help with comparisons, I think we thought it'd be easy for everyone to convert to the local time the event happened
event in the case of the app being a golf round
 
o/
 
CF wadup dawg
 
wadup dawg?
 
4:13 PM
not much
you?
 
Reunited with Tristan! ❤️
 
#HeForShe?
 
lol
nothing much Tim
just watched warcraft the movie
 
how did you like it?
 
4:17 PM
meeh good not great
i wish they remake warcraft 1 and 2 like 3
game i mean
i wanted to play the story mode in 1 and 2
 
someone remade WC1 with the engine of WC3
 
wow awesome thanks tim
 
lol @McAdam331 we could hangouts lol
 
but couldnt since both 1 and 2 never ran in windows 7
i always wanted to play it
wait why is the extension w3n?
 
warcraft 3 was the best game, online
I managed to get ranked 3 on the US east server for solo at one point
 
4:22 PM
i always wanted to play it
but couldnt since both 1 and 2 never ran in windows 7
wait why is the extension w3n?
yeah eski best game ever
the graphics are simply awesome
 
I wish WoW never came out, so they would have continued with the series
 
there is a dutch guy who streams WC3 every sat&sunday
 
it isnt openable anywhere
 
They're making Warcraft 4, no?
 
4:25 PM
Tim what is w3n extension?
 
previous world champion, multiple titles
 
I assume those are pre-arranged matches
 
no there is a WC3 server still running
 
links?
I looked into it, and found a server someone was running before, but it wasn't very active at all.
 
^
oh that extension is of warcraft engine
 
4:28 PM
yeah well not many people play the game anymore. I think there are like 20-30 people online at a time
 
need to download warcraft 3 then :(
 
yeah 20-30 people online kinda takes the fun out of it
 
this is the link though: twitch.tv/followgrubby he streams WC3 every saturday and sunday. One of the best WC3 players of all time
 
To me, wc3 was one of the best games for training the brain
 
yeah it was hard as hell with the cpu players
in extreme mode
 
4:30 PM
have you guys tried starcraft?
 
i was never able to beat cpu in extreme mode
 
cpu was dumb, even on extreme mode
you can usually exploit the holes in the AI
I tried starcraft but wasn't much of a fan
 
what were the holes?
i didnt played with cpu long enough to discover the holes
 
I can't remember exactly
it was probably stuff like making them chase you around
and they would have had bad micro
so you could use it to feed your heroes
 
i see
 
4:37 PM
you could also do things like cut a path through the trees behind someone's base and start building towers
 
I'm really confused by how the time zone is set in Android
On the plus side, 15 min until I finally have a break away from Android work after spending 12 days in a row working on this app
Not sure if I want to work all weekend again
 
5:04 PM
trump was just sworn in
 
RIP USA
7
 
\o
 
All of the beginner stuff is up
Intermediate should be up soon
Each commit in the repo is one step in the workshop
I'll add a readme in a bit that covers them in more detail
 
5:27 PM
add some blank lines inbetween code blocks for readability
 
Never! They shall learn the hardway, or not at all!
laughs maniacally
 
lol
so WW3 should be starting anytime soon
 
thanks, I will definitely check that
bye
(seriously btw)
 
bye
 
5:39 PM
Trumpocalypse
 
6:11 PM
Back
Jan 9 at 15:44, by Raghav Sood
We should organise a room15 conference
Any update on this?
 
Yup, still at the "We should" stage
Gonna be near impossible in practice
Too spread out
 
yeah
 
hmm
It can be more fun if that gets possible :D
 
6:33 PM
@AsifPatel Welcome! Please read, confirm reading, and follow the room rules before you do anything else: room-15.github.io
 
Hello everyone...
 
Close call, for a second I thought you were Asif and almost nuked you
@Dakota Rejected for 6:0 q:a ration. We require at least some community participation, usually at least 3:4. Please come back after contributing some more
 
6:52 PM
lol
 
@AsifPatel Access removed for not talking in 20 minutes.
 
7:06 PM
good luck to all of you in the US X'\
 
O/ from dc
 
7:22 PM
Dave
I wanted to say I solved that issue by actually simply doing this : beginTransaction() foreach....... copyToRealm(obj) then commit once
 
o/
 
interesting
 
7:39 PM
Anyone familiar with microcontrollers around?
 
I've done a little work with them doing grill firmware stuff
 
I might be somewhat late, but still: blog.mozilla.org/opendesign/arrival
(Don't burn me for using nonGoogle stuff)
 
8:13 PM
prepares a pyre
 
WITCH!
 
prepares nuke
 
runs away
 
gets caught in nuke's range and obliterated
 
Russia retaliates by nuking Germany
 
8:23 PM
Woah, things get out of hand here in the evenings
 
8:39 PM
CF, the warcraft streaming guy is online now
 
nice
i need to install windows 10 now :(
 
I'm also doing that today CF
 
man hp sucks
they gave all drivers for windows 7 apart from graphic card
so to play any game i need to install windows 10
fuck hp
 
why would hp have your graphics card drivers?
 
Tim i am trying to run warcraft 3
because my laptop is of hp
 
8:45 PM
graphics card drivers should be from the manufacturer
all drivers should be. Just because hp bundled up the pc as an all-in-one system doesn't mean you should run your drivers from them
 
nope the laptop makers customize the driver so you have to always use the makers one
also amd site doesnt have drivers for my model
 
i've reformatted laptops and installed drivers from scratch
whats your graphics card?
 
R5 M430
 
ok
 
8:52 PM
CF - Your graphics card can be labelled "HP Squirrel" but the chipset (the bit supported by the drivers) will actually be made by one of the big boy chip makers like Intel/AMD
 
Graeme - Ofcourse i know that but often they customize the software that is why you should prefer the one provided by hp but since hp only provided drivers for windows 10 and amd site doesnt have drivers for that model i am doomed
 
how can amd not have drivers for one of their own chips
 
no idea i checked their site there wasnt any driver
 
only thing i know that the card is quite new
perhaps they relied on hp to supply one
that auto detect thingy is installing something
though i have no idea what
 
8:58 PM
virus
 
Skynet
 
i will just send it to Tim
sends an email with exe to Tim
cc Dave
 
lol
I think that they may be moving away from manual drivers and towards auto installation to prevent issues
 
dave it installed something shitty
and its not working
 
installed m330?
 
9:12 PM
no idea
it just installed didnt show what it installed
 
and the graphics card still doesn't work?
 
nope
 
you could try updating through windows device manager
might also show you the driver currently installed
or you just use the intel hd drivers
 
cant play wc3 with the onboard card
well you probably can
old game :)
 
nope its not working with intel hd
its just stuck at loading screen
 
9:15 PM
time to call hp support, strange that there aren't any drivers for that card
 
hp support is shit i already tried them
sorry sir we dont have drivers for windows 7
 
lame
call amd
 
call amd i have never tried that?
do they have a number?
dell support is far superior to hp
 
whats your laptop model name?
 
ay007tx
 
9:19 PM
did you restart after installing the amd drivers?
 
o/
 
yes
 
9:42 PM
o/
 
this year is terrible already
first trump now gabe!
 
:(
 
 
2 hours later…
11:16 PM
o/
 
you're late
unless you're a wizard
 
How so?
 
I only saw two black Trump supporters at the inauguration
Says everything really
 
I wasn't paying attention to the race of people at the rally so I can't confirm or deny
 
because a wizard is never late
nor is he early
he arrives precisely when he means to
 
11:24 PM
I mean I am in DC right now, and it is very apparent
I also saw a death to all muslims sign
 
Then I think I'm a wizard.
I haven't been around as much lately. First time in the past few days. Been pretty busy
Who posted the sign?
If it was Trump or someone directly related to Trump then that's a problem
If it's a random, crazy Trump "supporter" then I don't think you can equate that to anything but a crazy person
 
Still, it should be crazy illegal to advocate for genocide
 
Freedom of speech.
Doesn't make it right but we do need to preserve our freedoms
Crazy can say what they want. It's up to sane citizens to protest against those idiots not keep them from speaking their minds
 
Freedom of speech shouldn't cover hate speech. At least in germany it doesn't. You will land in jail if you were to ever deny the Holocaust for example.
 
the problem with that is now you have a government body responsible for defining hate speech and legal grounds to prosecute any speech that body defines, which could get out of control.
 
11:33 PM
And what Dave said
Sticks and stones...
Let idiots say what they will. Speak against them and let your actions speak
My point was that you can't associate "I also saw a death to all muslims sign" to Trump, republicans, or anyone else besides that idiot who had the sign
 
but you can look at statistical analysis
 
??
 
view polls of supporters
it also says something that when surrounded by fellow trump supporters, that sign wasn't shamed and spoken out against.
> According to the results, two-thirds (67 percent) of those identifying themselves as Trump supporters said they do not hold favorable views of Muslim Americans,
> Nearly 9-in-10 (87 percent) said they support Trump's call to institute a temporary ban on Muslims who are not American citizens from entering the United States, while 47 percent of all voters who responded that way.
 
That looks really bad
What results? Nearly 9-in-10 who? Where is this data coming from?
 
11:42 PM
It may be true but there is a lot left open with those quotes.
 
from June
 
politico...
Also, that article doesn't say who or how many they polled
 
There are tons of opinion polls on views on muslims, google some
show me a source you view as reputable
 
I am not even going to pretend to think that many Americans don't have unfavorable opinions of Muslims. People are scared with some of the things that have been going on for quite awhile. That's quite a realistic response, imo. But it doesn't mean they all think they should be killed
 
no but it explains why a few extremists who wave signs that say "death to all muslims" aren't ostracized by fellow supporters
the holocaust happened in a similar atmosphere
 
11:48 PM
It also doesn't make them prejudice. I know many Trump supporters, including myself, who are by no stretch of the imagination prejudice
 
I know more who are then aren't
 
I agree with you that something should be done by people doing those things. I don't know the exact circumstances so I can't comment on why something wasn't done.
 
They may not think they are being prejudiced. Say some shit like "I'm not racist but... <insert stereotype>"
 
@DaveS That's unfortunate but luckily the opposite for me
Example of <stereotype>? I don't believe I've ran into those situations
 
I think supporting trump is somewhat inherently racist considering his support for a ban of muslims entering the country, blaming China for faking global warming and building a wall to "secure our borders" with mexico
He's a nationalistic ego maniac who blames minorities for our problems. Exactly what Hitler did with the Jewish people.
 
11:52 PM
The "ban of muslims entering the country" is not what people make it out to be. It's the temporary ban of people from certain countries known for heavy terrorism activities. I'm not saying I agree with it but it's more of a "let's hault this for a little while until we can get some control on it" kind of thing. The wall deal has been a topic for quite some time. And it's not racist at all. It's to control illegal immigration
 
the "temporary" ban based on religions seems a lot like "temporary" interment camps for japanese-americans in WW2
 
He's definitely an ego maniac. Doesn't mean all of his supporters are bad and it certainly doesn't mean that he can't do good. And he really isn't blaming minorities at all. If you actually listen to him, he's blaming our systems and processes which are obviously issues
 
If you actually listen to him, he doesn't say much of anything at all except to say China is bad, America is good, make America great
 
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