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1:03 PM
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Soooo tired. I was working on this shit until after midnight.
 
howdy cM
 
yo, kabuto
 
working til midnight again D:
 
Yay! :-|
 
1:07 PM
And I would take some time off today but we have a "practice" training at 10 with our partner then the training with the customer at 3:30 :(
 
no time for time off sir =.=
 
Never seems to be
 
sadly :(
 
I need some help saving my rapidly diminishing sanity. If every reference to an instance of an List is surrounded in a synchronized block (taking the instance as the blocking object), it's impossible that it could throw a "ConcurrentModificationException` right?
right?!? weeps
 
List or array?
 
1:21 PM
List
 
Ok I think you're misunderstanding synchronized
 
Sorry, my bad
 
no problem
When you do synchronized(object), it locks on that object
 
Yes
 
Were listening....
 
1:22 PM
So if code enters any other synchronized block on that object, then it waits for this block to finish
Code not in a block isn't safe
 
And that's the only place you're accessing that list?
 
Yes
Like I said - it's impossible for this to throw a ConcurrentModificationException. IMPOSSIBLE!
 
yeah, that's strange
 
It's a private static variable - it's only referenced in those methods.
Arghghgghh!!
 
1:24 PM
Try adding log blocks inside the synchronized: Log.d(TAG, "register block entered")
 
android M is skipping out login screen even after I uninstall our app
i hope this is not to do with their new backup feature
 
oh huh I never thought of the implications of that...
@Graeme Stack trace just points to the method iterating, right?
 
cM, I hope you have "NO BUGS" ?!
 
god damn it "Automatic restore" is enabled by default. when reinstalling an app, restore backed up settings from data
 
Anubian - pastebin.com/H5j3mLxq Yup
 
1:27 PM
RED_, there's some manifest attribute to disable this iirc
 
that seems pretty messed up, I thought backup would be a whole system thing (with app data). not just when reinstalling and app
that means uninstalling an app does not remove it's data now
 
Well it removes its data but backs it up, then reinstalling restores
right?
 
i don't know, it seems pretty quick
i feel like it's storing the data on the phone
 
Maybe it's caching it?
 
possibly. From a user point of view, that's going to annoy me a lot
 
i don't mind having the feature as a developer, maybe the users will use it, I probably won't though
 
Joke Time
A man walks into a bar and makes a bet with a bartender.
"I'll show you a trick, and if you think the trick is good enough, you give me a drink on the house." The bartender, having had a pretty boring day, accepts.
The man takes a rat out of his pocket and an equally tiny piano out of his other pocket. He sets the piano on the bar, and the rat jumps up and begins to play "The Entertainer".
The bartender is amazed and happily gives the man a free drink. After finishing, the man makes another bet: "If I show you an even better trick, will you put my entire tab for the night on the house as we
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@matty357 since you like them I'm tagging you
 
nice one again, Tristan :)
 
bows Thank you, thank you
 
1:40 PM
:)
 
No wonder people didn't like her
 
Warren already posted that Foamy :)
 
Her voice is obnoxious
 
You cant really judge her voice based on a song that has so much effects layered on it
 
true, but the voice in the song is
 
1:42 PM
Meh, I listened to some interviews where she is speaking normally and didn't find it annoying
Seems like a relatively normal teen girl who happens to have become famous for an odd reason
 
1:55 PM
LoL, very good as usual Tristan :)
 
2:39 PM
@TristanWiley that joke was good until the end. Then it was just fantastic
 
\oo
 
I'm gone, have a nice one!
 
goodbye, you too
 
bye
 
2:55 PM
cya!
 
Right lads, I'm off on my roadtrip
See y'all Monday
 
Enjoy it
 
Should be good!
 
Ooh where are you going?
 
Good news everyone!
 
2:59 PM
tell us about your hackathon
 
Yeah?
 
My bus logger worked, and then I was asked to give a demo to the boss on like 2 minutes notice and I nailed it lol
 
look at you
 
Haha niiiice
 
You are a big deal
 
3:03 PM
Yeah, so now I am going to slow it down and manage expectations so they don't expect too much. ;P
 
That's one of the big pieces of advice we got here that I've picked up. Specficially in the context of mentor/investor update emails, if you have a really really good week, don't dump all your achievements at once, spread it out over a few weeks. That way it looks like you're always doing well, rather than an anomalous really good week.
 
1 hour till I finish my last day at work, then I wont be on here during the day much at all.
 
where will you go
 
I am going to meet a friend for lunch soon. :D not that you asked me :X
 
3:11 PM
How can we ask you if you don't drop a hint?
 
o/
 
I will be spending the next 3 weeks finishing off renovating our house, so I wont be doing any development or using any computers much during that time. I may pop on using my phone, see what's happening. Then when I stat uni I should be back to annoy you all. To be honest, I don't think I will be able to stay away from this room haha.
 
I don't think you will either haha
But that's good for you
I'd suggest setting that as a hard rule
 
That's awesome, Matty! Share pictures when it's done.
 
I will have to find somewhere to upload before and after pictures. Feels like the end of an era for me ha.
 
3:21 PM
imgur?
 
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
if you say so, not done any image uploading before lol.
 
Imgur will do what you need.
Alright, time to run out. I'll be back.
 
bye Mc
 
3:23 PM
bye
 
3:35 PM
excuse my never-ending questions about data storage, but what's (in a nutshell) the role of ContentProvider in databases?
there is a dozen of tutorials out there, showing a dozen and one way to do it (database loading), leaving me completely confused
 
3:47 PM
Amazon's recruiter is trying to reach me
I have enough 'tears' to shed if I get that job
 
3:59 PM
@berry this room requires a min 100 rep for access among other things outlined here room-15.github.io
 
yo cm
 
Hey, Een
 
How are your flavors
 
They seem to be working pretty well
 
perhaps salty
good
glad
 
4:09 PM
Having issues now with downloading data.
haha
Our internet is really flaky so I'm hoping it's just that
Really unmotivated here lately so spent the last few minutes looking at possible job opportunities :\
 
You doing RESTful stuff?
 
Yeah, I guess
 
Change is always good for u; I just got contacted by an Amazon recruiter
 
Every time I think I understand it, I read something that differs from everything else
I saw that. That's cool. Going to respond?
 
I don't want to do anything like quitting my current gig since am outside the country
 
4:11 PM
I think I'm going to try and take a couple vacation days here soon to finish up my personal app so I've got something for a portfolio
Understandable
 
I respectfully declined the request but told her when I return, I will keep in touch
 
How long are you over there?
 
Should be back around December
I have had to turn down quite abit of recruiter calls for the last 11 months being here; basically because my boss has been very kind to me
 
I need some recruiter calls to turn down
 
4:26 PM
lol
You can pay me to send you emails haah
 
haha
 
Might have asked before; but are you the only dev there?
 
Only Android dev
We have a guy who writes the firmware for some of our products then my "boss" who mostly does the web stuff. Except for the mobile site which I am redoing because his version sucked terribly
 
which company is that (if you can share this info)?
 
heh, not sure if I should say as bad as I talk about them in here :P
But nothing you've ever heard of, I'm sure
 
4:39 PM
We here about them a lot, actually. You don't stop bitching about 'em. ;P
o/
 
I know
 
you work for GuhGel? ;)
laters
 
Never heard of it
 
bye
 
See ya, cygery
 
4:41 PM
GubGel haha
 
oh my god so true
 
Did you need a medium post to tell you that?
If that's the one about startups I'd like to add an addendum
 
well I knew it before but I saw this screenshot on twitter
actually didn't read the post
 
5:05 PM
"entitled white boys"? The second they dropped that race card I stopped taking it seriously. Yes, that is a real problem. No, I don't think white males are responsible.
 
5:17 PM
Aw I got a downvote. It's been a while :(
 
oh haha I totally disregarded that phrase
I know plenty of entitled people matching this image. Most are white males though. Not all of them.
 
OMG
HOW IS THIS OFF TOPIC WWHAT
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Q: What makes replacing with a character slower than replacing without one?

McAdam331I have an application that is logging messages to the screen. Currently, I am taking a string and replacing any hyphens with an empty character, like this: string data = msg.Replace("-", ""); As the process runs, the logging finishes at the same time, so I am able to keep up with the pace (I a...

I'm so confused.
 
You're referencing code you're not including
Something about processes and logging and threads and performance
MCVE would be "yo replace here takes 5 seconds, here it takes 10. wtf bruh"
 
That's more or less what I did, right?
So I referenced code I don't need. I'll take that out.
 
And MCVE the replace speed discrepancy
 
5:46 PM
Okay what a prick
BTW, this kind of profiling is something YOU should have done before asking the question, Mr. 7529. — Sam Axe 13 mins ago
I'm furious.
This is why people hate on the stack overflow community.
 
haa
 
yeah for sure we suck as a community
(see: java chat room)
You should have a timed MCVE though
sorry
A timed MCVE would make a really good question
Right now your question is "my shit isn't breaking here's a line of code, why's it wrong?"
 
Isn't that every stack overflow question ever?
 
vs: "huh this line of code takes 30% longer if you do this, check this out. Why is this so?"
 
THATS WHAT MINE IS SAYING.
I SAID, IT TAKES LONGER WHEN I USE THIS LINE VS THIS LINE.
 
5:49 PM
But it doesn't read like that, and there's no MCVE
 
???
 
You didn't time it, and you mention a lot of other stuff irrelavant to that line of code but relavant to your problem
 
So that makes it off topic?
Well then, let's get to closing half the damn site.
 
> "Questions seeking debugging help ("why isn't this code working?") must include the desired behavior, a specific problem or error and the shortest code necessary to reproduce it in the question itself. Questions without a clear problem statement are not useful to other readers. See: How to create a Minimal, Complete, and Verifiable example."
 
I gave, what I thought, was an MCVE.
 
5:50 PM
It's not verifiable
 
I gave the two lines of code. One was acting slower. In a standalone environment, it turned at that wasn't the case.
I would have been happy to edit my question with more relevant code, but no one asked for it. Instead, several people chose to gang up on the question as a bad question rather than try to help, and it this point I'm going to let it go, because I'm not going to fight for those four votes back at this point.
 
^ well that's fucked for sure
 
But seriously, this is why people hate on SO. Because everyone's too quick to point out why you're wrong then to try and help you be right.
 
I assure it you isn't "everyone"
 
Well now I can't get help from the others because the question is closed, so no one can answer it.
:|
 
5:57 PM
you could delete it and make a new one with more code (and timestamp outputs)
i.e. here is the time in millis it took to complete with this code...Here is the time in millis it takes to complete when I change it to this
 
The project is too complicated at this point to do all of that. I can try posting my P/C code, but the only difference is this damn String.replace().
 
too complicated to do that?
if it is really down to just the replace() call then all you have to do is add a print statement and subtract two timestamps...
and if it's not down to the replace method then using timestamps like that will help to narrow down where it is coming from
 
the timestamps aren't real-time. I have two devices attached to my computer, one is updating an ECU and one is logging the bus traffic.
I have a thread that is reading messages, formatting them, and logging them to the screen.
When I use Replace("-". "") all messages on the screen stop printing when the flash is done, meaning my producer-consumer operated at the same pace.
 
I'm not advocating for people to be dicks about it. But as it is now the question isn't really answerable. I get that "off topic" doesn't sound like an accurate label for a what is actually a programming question
 
When I use Replace("-", " ") the messages are printing for ~20 seconds after the flash finishes. Meaning my Consumer was a little bit slower, because I used Replace("-", " ") it seems.
 
6:02 PM
but that is more a beef with how SO defines "Off topic" and how it sometimes gets applied as a catch all close reason
if you replace with a different character does it change anything?
 
I haven't tried. Let me see.
 
my co-worker just released his second app
 
i.e. Replace("-", "a")
 
Please tell me he is not a professional Android dev, Een...
 
^ super subtle
 
6:04 PM
lol
 
Yeah, I'll try that foamy. Then I'll edit the question.
 
he is still a little new to it
 
well, that is kind of ok then
 
I'm still not sure I understand why you can't use timestamps with that setup?
 
I don't blame UI by itself (I suck there too) but at least I know how to keep aspect ratio of a background image :D
and he seems to like green :D
 
6:06 PM
What do you feel should be improved Warren?
 
white bottom line on edittexts, keeping the ratio of the background image in portrait
a curious little robot on the left of the loading dialog
paddings on the buttons should be added
 
personally I would change up the buttons so they aren't just plain boxes too
and +1 for padding
 
just small things but they are adding up to an "obvious bad" UI
 
I will let him know
Thank you
 
@FoamyGuy I don't want to add more executions that might slow down the consumer in this scenario.
 
6:10 PM
but they don't have to be permanent. You can use them just to figure out what is going on (or more correctly when it is going on)
 
So the average time it takes String.Replace() in each example?
Tons of people already ran that test. They closed my question, because it's "something I should have done before posting the question". I'm convinced, through downvotes and my question being closed, that the problem is not in the Replace method. Clearly, I've got an issue somewhere else.
I don't know how to find it now.
The difference, they said, is about 200ms.
I'm reading messages faster than 200 ms. That would explain the lag.
So, just like the guy said, Replace with a space is slower. Who cares if it's only 200ms slower? Sometimes that matters. God, now I'm frustrated again.
So then my question is valid. What makes it slower? Can it be sped up?
I need to walk away.
 
Just make sure to come back
 
6:34 PM
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6:59 PM
> The mind is its own place, and in itself can make a heaven of hell, a hell of heaven.
 
they surprised me with donuts at the office today because it's my last day at the internship (on site)
so sweet of them <3
 
Why did they buy you donuts? Is it your birthday?
 
read my edit^
 
We haven't had donuts here in quite awhile :(
 
:)
 
7:04 PM
Oh, haha. Oops
Damn, it doesn't seem like you should be done there yet
 
ikr
time went by so fast :0
 
What the fuck have I accomplished in the last 3 months???
 
my contract is until the 11th (but I'm working remote from the US the last two weeks)
but yeah 2,5 months done.
 
It sure did. I guess it's true what they say...time flies for me when Ahmad is having fun :)
 
7:05 PM
I don't get it, it went by so fast
haha true magic :D
 
That's really cool of them to let you do that
 
fuck dude I've been here 2 months too what the hell...
 
ikr?!
 
Have you found out anything about working there while in school?
 
I swear it was like the week before we released haha
 
7:06 PM
are you doing 3 month as well Anubian?
 
I've been here 3 years and it feels like an eternity
 
they are working on it magic, we have to get approval from MS in redmond
 
I'm leaving after MHacks
 
but hopefully it works our! :)
 
Redmond?
 
7:06 PM
ooh damn!
 
I hope it does too!
 
Microsoft headquarter in redmond, noob
:) magic
 
Like seattle redmond?
 
yup
 
you know who lives 5 minutes from the microsoft redmond campus?
 
7:08 PM
who?
 
<---------------
 
you?
:0
 
no waaay
you're from seattle?
 
Helllll yeah way
Yes I am :D
 
7:09 PM
awesome! :D
 
YAY FIFTEENHUNDRED POINTS. What do I get?
Who do I talk to about said accomplishment? Where do I pickup my internet gifts?
 
hopefully I can make the trip up some day to MS headquarters
 
they said everybody in the office will eventually have to go to the headquarters some day
that is, if I can continue working here lol
 
Oh gotcha
Are you going to school here then?
 
7:10 PM
no no lol, just visiting the headquarters
btw, did I already mention I'm working remote from the sunrise office in NYC? :D
@jlindenbaum wooooohooo
you can pick up your stack overflow shirt by posting your story here
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Q: 10 Million Questions - Let's Share Some Stories That the Number Doesn't Convey

Tim PostIt's easy to look at numbers; numbers tell us that many developers have been helped by what we built. That alone is very warming and makes us feel exceptionally great about what we're doing, wouldn't it be nice to take a little time on a Friday to share some stories that the numbers can't convey?...

I want to post. Because I WANT a shirt.
But I didn't find the time to yet
 
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A: 10 Million Questions - Let's Share Some Stories That the Number Doesn't Convey

nhgrifJon Skeet isn't an expert at everything. I've always seen excellent answers from Jon Skeet. He is a legendary contributor to the site. His answers always strive to explain the why behind the problem, and for someone like myself who strives to collect as much knowledge about their profession as...

"Jon Skeet isn't an expert at everything." D:
 
shun the non believer
 
7:29 PM
ugh that meta question is so fucking ratchet
y'all ninjas be cray
@FoamyGuy thanks Foamy
 
I love what slack has done with the emoji reactions
 
yeah emoji reactions are great
In chat especially
 
they just make so much sense
for stuff like "is this good?" you just pin a 👍🏼 to it instead of everybody repeating the same thing over and over again
 
Imagine 15 people replying to that with a message
 
haha ikr :D
 
7:49 PM
Holy crap Ahmad this summer flew.
I feel like you just started.
 
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ikr ;_;
it's September in 3 days!
how the fuck did that even happen
 
user457812
I think I broke Spotify Radio
 
I start school in 6 days.
 
user457812
7:51 PM
I click 'next' but it doesn't show the next song even though it's playing
 
My internship has dragged at this point, though. I've been here forever rofl.
 
I start school in 26 :D
 
I met up with a few friends this past weekend at a friends farewell party because she's leaving to spain for a year
and I realised I hadn't seen them in three months 0.o
happened to me as well nil!
 
@Ahmad welcome to #adultLyfe
 

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