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2:00 PM
Hmm. I wonder if it's the play alone?
 
 
dude
 
maybe theres something with this latest libgdx release.
its really not doing much
 
I think it might be, actually. I had no idea how to play and my fiancee was showing me on the single player, I think that's when I noticed it getting hot.
 
I heard a carrier store rep trying to convince someone that if their phone felt hot while they were using it, or while it was charging that they had the wrong kind of SDcard and needed to buy the new kind for $30 bucks...
so maybe you have the wrong kind of sdcard ;-p
 
2:01 PM
does it happen when you play other games?
 
I don't really play other games :(
 
well, then this is going to show up on your battery usage for sure then :)
what other apps are you running?
 
post dumpstate pliss
or bugreport (for Nexus)
 
Sure, but it doesn't seem like it needs much in the way of CPU power is why I'm confused; it seems to be having a lot higher drain than I'd expect.
 
well it's opengl
what kinda phone do you have?
there seems to be a short cpu spike when the ad changes, but otherwise it looks pretty much normal in the CPU usage on my devices.
 
2:07 PM
Nexus 5. I guess I'm just not used to typical game battery draw.
 
thats what I have too
 
The only other app I have that even registers is Fenix Twitter client. Oh well, carry on :)
 
is this game on the market?
 
its in beta
 
oic
 
2:09 PM
try playing another game for a while and see how it compares?
 
check the wake locks in your bug report
 
rymdcapsul is a good one. or smash hit
those are both opengl
or a simpler card game of some sort
 
Dots!
 
Play the Kim K game
 
Oh Smash Hit
I'll go grab that, that was fun.
 
2:12 PM
I apparently don't have the newest version. My icon is the old one :(
 
yah, the GPU rendering in dev options even is more based on the ad thats showing at the moment than gameplay
 
I think I didn't uninstall before installing it from the group
 
yah dude, are you in my beta testers group?
 
yes
I thought I uninstalled first but apparently not. Will I lose the games I'm playing or The Google has it all stored?
 
it'll save them
 
2:15 PM
is there gonna be a paid version with no ads?
 
yah adam, really seems like normal performance to me.
in comparison to the other games, even alert dialogs show more cpu usage when they pop up
i dunno foamy, maybe. I just wanna finish it and move on
 
let the record show that I am in favor of one with no ads
 
oh yah? how much would you pay for it?
 
Just get the free ad supported one and use AdBlock
 
sigh
 
2:19 PM
well really the only thing I know about it is the name
 
:D
 
but I do like dice
 
its just yahtzee
 
ahh
I'd prolly pay 2-3 bucks for it. Maybe more depending on my mood at the time
I think I am lot quicker to buy apps than the general public though
and willing to pay a bit more than general public as well
 
i spend £0 every month on apps
 
2:22 PM
Carls been playing too, I'll check his battery usage when he comes in
 
whenever I find something that is useful or fun I will buy it
 
Okay I've got a few screenshots of CPU usage
I think it's the ads.
 
I'm seeing CPU spikes when the ads change, so yah
not much i can do about that
 
but even so, it doesn't seem that bad
 
2:24 PM
 
It's only showing 2% for me and I have several games pending
 
hey cm
 
That's just after an ad change, and then this one is the 'normal' usage level:
 
yah, I'm not worried about it
you can uninstall it
I wont be offended
 
hey neb
The Close and Rematch buttons still aren't working for me. Is it just me?
 
2:29 PM
no, I havent implemented them yet :)
 
Ah, ok. That makes sense then :D
 
Naw I'm not gonna uninstall it, tis fun :P I clearly don't play enough games, though, since the fact that a game uses a bunch of battery comes as a shock to me.
 
Yay...3 badges today
 
open question: how much would someone have to pay you for exclusive ads within your app? i.e. instead of having google ads that change every once in a while you have pre-set banner ad that is for the same service or product every time.
 
5 mars bars
 
2:33 PM
greetings
 
I played one round of 2048 and it used the same amount of battery as the last 2 hours of my game. so...
 
my apps are not very popular so very little in reality
 
and Im running my game in debug :)
 
2:45 PM
i'd give you 5 mars bars for that
 
2:55 PM
It's so fun to watch a tick mark go back and forth because a user doesn't understand that there can only be one accepted answer :D
 
lol
 
What's even better is I was trying to tell the other person to edit my answer into his and I would delete mine so it would be a complete answer and he would get the rep
After several comments, he still didn't understand what I was saying
 
3:09 PM
LOL!
"Italy's notorious shipwreck captain, accused of a fatal delay in sounding the alarm as his Costa Concordia cruise liner sank, has sparked outrage by giving a lecture to students on best emergency practices."
 
watching that ship being lifted up was amazing
 
whoops, forgot to close the chat.. morning everyone
 
Hey, Carl
 
hi carl
 
Hey all
 
3:22 PM
TGM, it's so weird to see you with an actual picture for your icon :D
 
lol
 
He had one not too long ago, I believe
 
yeah after long time I finally updated with my actual photo
yeah that was very old pic
 
Morning Carl.
And everyone else I missed :P
 
3:38 PM
so I don't use gmail on my phone very much, but I have this problem now where every time I open it, I get the "you need google play services" dialog, it being installed
 
 
wow
that guys hands are HUGE
 
Holy shit
Is that a cross between some sort of mountain cat and a regular one?
 
I think the perspective makes it look a bit larger than it is
but still prolly pretty big
 
3:54 PM
I have seen a great number of poorly Photoshopped images in my time as a photographer and I can tell by the pixels that it is a fake.
 
you are supposed to wet the toothbrush before using it right?
 
I always do, but I'm not sure what the proper protocol is
 
does it really matter?
 
4:25 PM
Heya Everyone :D
 
o/
 
uh oh.. removing all the ABS stuff from my app means removing tons of style properties and now everything looks terrible
hi Naruto
 
Carl, back to old avatar!
 
yeah, got tired of lego-man
 
Ahaaa! It looks better than lego-man :)
 
4:27 PM
it's true
:D
 
:D
 
D:
 
D:
 
4:33 PM
D:
 
lol
oh man, I saw Guilherme's icon and thought @Ahmad was here.
 
I'm sorry to disappoint you
 
it's ok, I was just going to complain to ahmad
 
I'm not sorry then
 
4:37 PM
So everyone uses Volley here, right?
 
no
 
what do you guys use instead?
 
nope.
 
Retrofit
 
4:39 PM
httpcore
 
I did however, just get 4 ones on my first roll and ended up with a 6 point 4-of-a-kind
 
/me claps
I should make that an achievement
 
Haha
 
I didn't get it. Is that poker or what?
 
Yahtzee
Actually, HazarDice
 
4:41 PM
do you recommend switching from Volley to any of those?
 
I'm only using mine because it was there when I got here and works.
 
I'm not using one
 
@Guilherme it depends on what you need I guess.
 
just about to say that
 
I call the udp apis directly
 
4:43 PM
I need to send and receive JSON through POST and GET
 
then theres nothing wrong with an HttpUrlConnection inside an async task
 
I'm probably not going to switch my current apps from Volley to anything, but for future apps I'm open to new ideas
 
I'm sure volley is awesome,
I just don't like using extra libs if not needed.
 
apparently volley has some additional functionality, like priority
 
4:48 PM
I use Volley because I'm not yet fully confident to work directly with HttpUrlConnection, and yes, it has some perks
I just call POST and receive the JSON, already parsed
it caches the images (with some more work though, not out of the box)
 
Volley is good. Retrofit + Picasso is better.
(if all you're doing is simple GET and POST)
 
What's Picasso for? Images?
 
yes
I was using a HttpUrlConnection inside an async task but then I switched to Retrofit
 
@AdamS What else would you be doing other than GET and POST?
 
PUT, DELETE?
 
5:02 PM
HEAD?
 
You could need prioritisation, the abiilty to cancel requests in queue, custom logic around image caching, etc. I think you can do some of that with Retrofit/Picasso, but I don't know how, where as I've done it with Volley :)
 
5:20 PM
 
:D
 
wtf, nil removed himself as an owner?
 
Yes, again
 
WTF you don't know cthulu?
 
...?
 
5:27 PM
Nope
 
lol
what's up with nil? Does anyone know?
 
My nerd cred dropped dropped last night, but my man card gained some points
I don't think anything.He removed himself last week because he said he wasn't doing any ownerly things
Ahmad added him back then he removed himself again last night
 
pyrodante doesn't do ownerly things and that doesn't stop him from being an owner
 
I know a few people don't or aren't in here much. I dunno...just telling you what he said
 
5:31 PM
Maybe he doesn't want to hear the pings since he isn't doing any controlling of the access
 
I should remove myself too then
as I am never here and don't do ownery things
but.. i won't
 
he's got a job now so maybe that has something to do with it
 
he's got a job, no moar timez to waste on teh interwebz
 
yeah, we tried asking him about it, but didn't get a reply yesterday
 
I will ask him on twitter.
maybe
more importantly, where are all my damn rolling papers
 
5:39 PM
I didn't figure you as a pothead
 
not a very good one apparently
 
Haha
They should be on your tray next to the scissors
 
i use a grinder
 
the app?
 
Ah, I always used scissors
 
5:52 PM
old school.
brb
Im actually smoking a damiana mugwort blend :)
just herbs
damiana is good for anxiety, mugwort is good for good dreams
also mullien in this one too I think
I cant remember
 
Then I need some damiana
 
is removing the support.v4 library something I should be trying to do?
 
Naw.
If you're using a ViewPager you need it. Are you minSdk14 now?
 
theres a couple kinds of damiana,
 
yeah, have been min 14 since November
removed ABS yesterday, was trying to remove support.v4 as well, but it looks like I'm stuck with it because of the viewpager
 
6:01 PM
Yeah.
 
ones an aphrodisiac, so keep that in mind...
 
Arrrrgh. My Mac has decided it doesn't want to switch screens anymore.
 
Mine decided to stop working altogether
 
3 finger swipe left/right/up (for Mission Control) all don't work.
F12 for the widgets page doesn't work either
I just restarted to fix this and now it's broken again after 2 minutes? :(
Launching Mission Control from the Launchpad doesn't work either...
 
stupid deep linking
why wont you work
 
6:04 PM
killall -kill Dock in Terminal fixed it. Bah.
 
I saw that on WebMD, neb
Interesting...
 
damiana is really good for me, some people call it a third eye lubricant
I cant actually smoke weed, makes me too paranoid
hops too, are really nice to smoke
 
so when i try to launch something with deeplink its all like
"unable to becuase im stupid"
ugh
 
Same with me on the weed. I used to then quit for awhile and can't do it now
I've never smoked any of that other stuff you are talking about
Where can I get some damiana? :)
 
oh geez, anywhere
cheap too
I ordered some from there
 
6:15 PM
Cool
 
Tunera diffusa is what you're looking for
I blend it with mullein and mugwort and maybe a little lavendar
 
wanna get hiiiigh?
Hello, Android!
Looks like I missed some interesting conversation ;-)
 
Damn, this is sounding like a lot of work. Not sure it's going to help my anxiety. Lol
Hey, Code
 
Hi, code
 
Chocolate is good for anxiety
 
6:23 PM
s/for anxiety//
 
so is Bourbon
 
but chocolate does not cause cirrhosis
or lung cancer
 
Just heart disease
 
nah
worst case scenario is put on a few kilos
 
or, you know, diabetes
 
6:24 PM
Bourbon doesn't cause lung cancer either
just sayin
 
the most common cause of death: life
 
eating sugar does not cause diabetes
 
source?
 
science?
 
link?
 
6:27 PM
i'd need to look for some articles
but you could google that too
 
type 2 diabetes is becoming more and more common in overweight children
you know why children are overweight?
sugar.
I think its pretty fair to say that sugar is not good for you lol
 
overweight causes type 2, not sugar
 
and what causes obesity?
 
who uses a video view with media controller
 
childen are getting overweight because they're lazy
 
6:29 PM
sugar is far from the only cause of obesity
 
they don't play outside
 
> The last time an agency of the federal government looked into the question of sugar and health in any detail was in 2005, in a report by the Institute of Medicine, a branch of the National Academies. The authors of the report acknowledged that plenty of evidence suggested that sugar could increase the risk of heart disease and diabetes
 
children are overweight because they eat crap fed to them by their parents, including a shit ton of carbs
carbs get broken down into your blood as sugars
 
parents are bad these days
 
parents just dont know :)
 
6:32 PM
parenting is the hardest job in the world.
 
parents do know. they just don't have the balls to raise their kids as they should, and keep spoiling them by allowing them to eat whatever crap they want
 
i hard a nightmare last night about having a kid with like
issues
its my greatest fear in the world
autism, downs syndrome, something like that
 
parenting is outrageously hard and it doesn't get easier.
 
shit like that ruins your life man
 
@Guilherme how many kids do you have?
 
6:34 PM
0
but I've seen far too many parents that can't say "no" to their kids
 
lol
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
 
carls lolling
 
they know they should, but they prefer to see their children "happy" rather than deal with them, teach that there are limits
 
Guilherme have you ever experienced Chinese water torture?
 
I've heard of it, never experienced though
 
6:37 PM
do you understand the concept? Water just drips onto your forehead
 
yes
 
can you imagine a scenario where you would go crazy from that?
 
absolutely, yes
 
the Chinese got the idea from parenting
 
explain...
 
6:39 PM
Am I in correct chat room today?
 
every single day you are telling your kids "no, you can't do XYZ", multiple times a day
every single day, they try pushing the limits
they eventually wear you down
 
woot, we just finished pushing a big update
I wonder how many crashlytics reports we'll get by tomorow :S
 
and you say "yes, you can have ice cream for dinner"
 
I disagree, in parts
 
you have zero experience from which to disagree
 
6:40 PM
^^
exactly
 
try working as a babysitter full time for a week
and then tell me parents don't say "no" to their kids
they say "no" 95%+ of the time
 
there are many ways to say "no"
 
so it's ludicrous to the point of hilarity for you to claim that parents aren't saying "no" to their kids
 
you need to educate the children from the beginning. you need to give them reasonable explanations on why they can or can't do this or that (keeping in mind their age and explaining in a way that they can understand the most)
 
Damn, went to do some work and missed a lot
 
6:44 PM
kids don't understand explanations
three year olds don't understand logic
 
yes, you should try having a reasonable conversation with a 2 year old and tell me how that goes
 
three don't, but what about 10? they do understand a lot
 
here is a hilarious video of a mother trying to tell her kids "no, you it's time to go to sleep":
 
cm, same here lol
 
I'm a parent and Gui somewhat has a point. A lot of parents do let their kids get away with too much and spoil them too much
 
6:45 PM
kids don't learn their eating habits at age 10, they learn them at age 2
 
they learn from their parents
or whoever feeds them
 
That's partly why they are so disrespectful
But, yes, you can't explain why to a toddler
 
of course not, that's why I said to keep in mind their age
yet you need to show some authority
 
When they are that young, all you can do is put a reasonable meal out there and say eat it or starve...they will eat it
If you're nice, you also give them the option of that or a PB&J
 
if you let your kid cry for 30 minutes until you get pissed off and get whatever he wanted, he's going to cry more and more
until he gets it
 
6:48 PM
and I'm telling you it's a lot harder than you make it sound
 
Yes, definitely not easy
 
i have no practical experience, but I do agree with you in this point
yet it seems to me that you're generalizing that it must happen to every single kid
 
Hell, taking a poop isn't even easy with kids
 
and if you may have thought that I generalized too (about the parents), I didn't mean to
 
I have yet to meet a kid who doesn't try to find a way to circumvent being told "no, you can't do/have that"
 
6:51 PM
knock knock What is it? he's touching me. Tell him to quit and I'll be out in a minute knock knock What?!? He's still touching me. I'm pooping, what would you like me to do about it?
 
most of them will try
 
rofl cM
 
what's important is how long will they insist
 
I could go on all day but I think I'll stop there :D
 
anyone know much about overriding styles?
 
6:52 PM
you mean with flavors?
 
I don't
 
Just enough to do some basic style changes
in styles.xml?
 
trevor - no, styles.xml
 
oh, yea is something not working?
 
I don't understand how to figure out how to find the correct thing to put in "parent"
and I had a bunch of stuff that is broken now that I've removed ABS
 
6:53 PM
parent="@android:style/Widget.TextView"
 
Ahmad helped me with this before, but he basically just gave me fish instead of teaching me to fish
 
Depends what you want to style
 
lol
 
Haha
 
You put the style you're deriving from in parent
 
6:54 PM
I want to style the underline color of the viewpager tabs
I used to have Widget.Sherlock.ActionBar.TabBar
do I just convert that to android:style/Widget.ActionBar.TabBar ?
 
I think so
 
and if so, how the hell am I supposed to have figured out that that's the proper string? Where in the docs/code would I find "Widget.ActionBar.TabBar" ?
 
it should help you autocomplete to tell the right name
in AS I can jump up the style hierarchy too
 
nothing autocompletes in my styles.xml
 
Just look in one of the syles.xml from one of the platforms you downloaded
 
6:57 PM
since you are using an android style now
you might need to do @android:style
and then it may autocomplete
let me check, I had an annoying problem with this a while ago
 
correction: stuff autocompletes, but the stuff I'm overriding isn't in the auto-complete list
 

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