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3:00 PM
you know who we hosted? our biggest clients?
 
and their office gets 500mbps internet
 
microsoft teams
office, live, word, etc
 
lol
 
and it was painfully obvious that these teams had no idea what the other was doing
 
Are you surprised?
 
3:00 PM
that's because they compete
 
not at all
 
MS is one huge segmented clusterfuck
 
at one point, i wrote these handlers that would join data from sharepoint lists and let you query multiple lists across multiple sites and portals,
the sharepoint team was like, huh, good idea
o.o
 
Because of MS standardizations, I've helped people with programs I've never seen. I used what I knew about how Office pulldown menus were, and walked the person through how to do it...I made them figure it out by telling me what they saw, and I told them what I thought was the best guess...
 
but yah that was like 2007.
before anyone was thinking cloud.
"cloud"
 
3:03 PM
That doesn't work when screens change as much as PCs, tablet, and phone uses change
 
lol
 
I'm not sure how I feel about cloud...
Security...
I use TeamViewer, but nothing critical sits on it
 
the cloud is not sure how it feels about you either Karl
 
lol
 
wanna see something cool?
check out spikes browser
 
3:04 PM
 
I also have the problem that every time it rains, I lose data
 
Is it still in alpha or beta?
you have to request access
 
I think they're in release
its enterprise only at this point
the consumer version is coming eventually
 
Ah cool
 
3:07 PM
So, question for the room: anyone can give me a tip on how I can find open source projects to participate?
 
github :)
 
For Android, I mean, if that's a thing.
 
Is there a category?
I know there is an open source office project out there for Android now
Cannot think of the name, I think it's OpenOffice...
 
pick something you're interested in
 
Right, I was just setting up a GitHub account now.
 
Haven't seen the page for long, I'm curious how to search for projects looking for help?
 
most of the popular ones are
 
Any project will be happy if you contribute to them
Just don't start off with the linux kernel. Linus Torvalds will scream at you.
 
Cool, so I just send them an email?
Haha
 
most of them are on irc
 
3:10 PM
Yeah ^
 
jump in the room and say hi
 
Cool, I'll browse around and do that.
Thanks, folks.
 
But if they are not, then just try to create an issue on the github page, tag it as feature request and you're good to go
someone from the project will answer
 
Man, some guy is sitting on the name CodeBot3000.
 
what
lol
 
3:14 PM
On GitHub. Made his account 4 years ago and never used it.
 
Ah wait, if you're only searching for android projects then you can use F-Droid: f-droid.org
it's a repo that only links to open source android projects
 
Sweet! Thanks for that.
I'm gonna browse their projects in a bit.
 
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A: access an array from do in background method

theellipsisreplace this: String[] movie = questionstring.doInBackground(); String Title = movie[0]; String Year = movie[1]; String Released = movie[2]; String Director = movie[3]; String Actor = movie[4]; String Awards = movie[5]; String Genre = movie[6]; with this: questionstring.execute(); String[] mo...

someone is suggesting to call execute() and then get() on an AsyncTask instance...
 
I don't downvote often...
but that answer deserves one :)
 
3:20 PM
wait, do not miss his explanation
why does get() even exist?
 
it does not "block" the UI thread it causes it to wait which is different. — theellipsis 25 secs ago
HAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHA falling down
 
nKn
hi!
 
lol
hi all
 
\o/
lol emmanuel
oh btw, if anybody wonders, I did end up reducing my spaghetti code to just one line
languages = [dict(tpl) for tpl in set(tuple(item.items()) for item in languages)]
All that crap, summarized in one line ^
 
LOL
did you see his update?
 
3:29 PM
lol
 
@codeMagic can you be of use and vote to delete that answer?
 
Answers aren't suppose to be deleted because they are incorrect, bad, or stupid...
However, I have downvoted so maybe that will encourage the author to delete himself or edit
 
they're only supposed to be deleted because he wants them deleted
 
I've had a couple back-and-forths about it. And, as much as I would like to, I don't delete them anymore for just being bad.
But downvotes and comments do typically do the trick
 
Hi Guys I used the first method which was provided and this gave me exactly what I wanted? Is it OK to use? — MMG92 1 min ago
 
3:43 PM
Plus, leaving it there shows people what not to do and why
 
the OP used the worst method possible thanks to that answer...
 
If he wants an app that sucks, that's his choice I guess
He's been warned
 
lol
cM, I used to play a lot of Left 4 Dead online with this clan,
there was one guy who was always hilariously sarcastic on the voice chat
every time I read something you've written, it gets read using the voice of that guy
 
Haha...thanks!
 
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Q: where is the location of install apk nmanifiest file

user3472001im installing my project apk file on device i can view all its database inside /data/data/com.myapp but did not find manifest file tell me where it was located??? help me pelase i need to fine location help me pleasse where is manifest file when installing apk what is the location path o...

 
3:56 PM
I kind of have a gift. When talking to someone, I can be extremely sarcastic without them knowing until I want them to. lol
 
we can attribute that to your lack of social skill...
no any posibility android provide to get location of manifiest or open manifiest file in text editor inside phone??????? — user3472001 1 min ago
 
You may be on to something, Emmanuel. Because it seems that people often don't understand when I'm joking (which is most of the time)
 
4:14 PM
I'm scared. Have been refactoring my script for more than an hour now, without running it.
Let's see how this goes.
Yay, it still works
 
heh
I hated when I went really deep into refactoring things and cleaned up a TON of code, only to run it later and find out about that edge case I wasn't considering and had to undo it all.
 
unit test all changes :P
This is so fantastically cruel :P
 
I wish the stacktraces weren't so huge when all you did was create a NPE during Activity startup. I think a good 10% of SO questions wouldn't have been created if it were more obvious to the newbs that that was the problem.
 
lol glitch
true carl
 
4:22 PM
Write a stack trace interpreter for Eclipse lol
 
nKn
can you guys give me your opinion on this answer? stackoverflow.com/questions/23242131/… it has an upvote and 2 downvotes; I don't know the reason of the downvotes, though (mostly to know if I should leave it or remove it :P)
 
nKn: You're right, System.exit shouldn't be used in Android
 
nKn
thanks, I supposed so, but as I saw the downvotes I wasn't pretty sure about the second part of the answer, I can't find it anywhere in the documentation, but I guess it's ok
 
This would scare the shit out of Mediterranean women. They're superstitious as fuck.
 
4:33 PM
> Causes the VM to stop running and the program to exit. If runFinalizersOnExit(boolean) has been previously invoked with a true argument, then all objects will be properly garbage-collected and finalized first. Use 0 to signal success to the calling process and 1 to signal failure. This method is unlikely to be useful to an Android application.
 
I'm back!
 
nKn
thus it's not wrong after all :P thanks!
 
no problem
 
codeMagic, we were all desperate, we didn't know where you were
 
That's why I didn't announce my departure.
 
4:35 PM
well we figured that there were no dumb comments for a while
 
I was hoping everyone wouldn't notice thus avoiding a complete panic
 
You're good at causing panics cM
 
CM WAS GONE?! THIS WORLD IS A LIE I MUST EXIT NOW FOREVER KBAI
 
4:58 PM
 
anyone know how i can check how many devices are supported by my apk, without uploading to the store?
 
the store tells you that??
 
I think it tells you before you publish
 
oh awesome.
i'll upload it then
yeah it does carl
 
5:51 PM
Oh, stupid Bluetooth, why must you haunt me?!?
 
6:30 PM
stupid cursor loader interface
 
7:01 PM
hello
anyone user chartboost here?
 
Hello, Android!
 
for portability purposes, would it be best to roll out my own API backend or should I just stick w/ cloud endpoints for now?
 
7:17 PM
portability purposes?
idk much about GAE, could you elaborate on that?
 
portability as in the ability to shift to another platform if that need were to ever arise
 
So away from GAE?
 
yeah
 
I would roll my own
but that's because I tend to try out lots of services
 
thanks
 
7:21 PM
but if you're comfortable with GAE and not planning to move away from it any soon you should stick to the GAE specific stuff
what are cloud endpoints anyway?
googles
 
cloud endpoints gives you an abstraction over building a REST API yourself
you write a bunch of methods, annotate them and it'll expose them for public use
it also allows you to generate client libraries for ios and android
 
theyre beautiful.
makes auth a breeze too
 
wow, they look nice. I wanted to check out GAE a few weeks back, but I got dragged away with other stuff.
I think I'm going to look into app engine this week
 
7:54 PM
 
8:15 PM
I killed the chat
 
8:30 PM
hey everyone !
 
hi TGMC
 
 
1 hour later…
9:54 PM
 
10:19 PM
WOW
I got the job
happy
 
Yay
 
what?
the android job?
how?
 
yeah
yesterday they called me
 
I thought they said they wanted a senior?
 
because I asked for feedback
 
10:21 PM
WOW! Congrats! :D
 
and they said that they really liked my skill set
but $70K was too much
I told them that it was not a set figure
 
what did the start you at?
 
what did you end up with?
 
$60K
 
still nice :)
 
10:23 PM
More than me. Although I'm not exactly in a programming job even though I do minor programming.
 
I do not have a CS degree
lol
I still can't believe it
 
11:06 PM
Hey guys. I've been looking around trying to find a way to clip an image with a circle ShapeDrawable. The only solutions I've found, require a java solution. Is there a purely XML solution to this?
 
You can use a selector
and specify a large corner radius
in xml
 
can you select an image background in a selector?
or would you do it on the view you applied the selector to?
aka imagebutton
 
you can set it to the ImageButton
 
so, the imagebutton background would be the selector with a large radius? and the imagebutton src would be the avat?
avatar*
 
correct
 
11:13 PM
okay, what i did before that didnt work. was a shape drawable (oval).
which didn't clip anything.
I'll try the selector
 
try with a rectangle shape
 
ohhhhh
i see ;)
let me try that
no cigar :(
still not clipping
@em
 
why not do it with java if you found a solution for that? :p
 
Because we're using Xamarin for cross-platform.
We could use C#. But we'd like a xml solution.
 
Gratz Emm !
 
11:27 PM
Doesn't look like this is possible purely with XML.
 
I didn't know you could create iOS apps with Xamarin
TIL
I thought it's just for Android
@rytan2005 Welcome. Please read the room rules.
 
mhm. I am not too happy with our devs decision on xamarin.
 
Do Xamarin apps feel like native apps?
Or is there a notable difference?
 
yeah, apparently. although, the problem is... any external libraries will have to be converted to C#
our team is shooting themselves in the foot :(
 
What about the API? I know that it's kind of a port of the actual Android framework to C#. How up to date are the API's?
Oh I see
 
11:35 PM
that sounds dangerous
or rather - that sounds like people who are too attached to C# to learn Java
 
Yes I thought that as well carl, but apparently you can port the apps to iOS as well, so yeah that's an advantage. But I'd never use it.
 
isn't that what PhoneGap does too?
 
Yeah but you can feel that phonegap isn't native
 
phonegap is soooo different though
exactly carl. some of the people on our team are being turds
it's just a bad solution.
 
11:39 PM
Are you the only android dev?
 
our databases and services should all be external. and we should be writing native code for each platform.
i'm the only one who actually cared to learn android
sorry for the rand haha.
rant*
 
lol
 
but i just think the corporate priorities should dictate the production paths, versus individual developers comfortability and skillsets
can't wait to do my own startup... sooon.
 
developers need to be agile enough to learn new programming languages when appropriate. If they're not you need to send them to @NoelCower
 
truth.
 
11:41 PM
he'll give them the proper beating they deserve
 
i just hate people who aren't motivated.
i love learning new things. if you're on my project, i want you to be motivated.
 
If you're only comfortable with only one language and one environment then you shouldn't be a programmer
 
true.
 
truth.
 
i've only been at the company 8 months. and i had no experience of any of this at that point.
within the 8 months, i've programmed windows store apps, android and ios environments
 
11:42 PM
i need to figure out how to build a raccoon proof turtle pond.
electric fence?
 
loolll
 
why in the world do raccoons want to get in your turtle pond?
 
what a question.
 
to eat my turtle
 
question: who has a turtle pond
 
11:43 PM
answer: neb
 
shh
trick question.
 
mind: blown
 
You need steel screen over the top
 
I was thinking a chicken wire contraption
 
to eat my turtle lol
 
11:43 PM
but i still want it to look pretty
 
lol
how do they eat the turtle?
 
then i started thinking electric fence.
 
doesn't it have the good sense to go into its shell?
 
 
give them somewhere else to go...
 
11:44 PM
Don't put it under water
 
these kind of turtles dont have the clamping shell
 
just imagine the cat food is your turtle
 
rofl ahmad
 
they're aquatic, red eared sliders
dude, i WISH
i wish it was that easy
raccoons are fuckers
I could make the entire thing enclosed with a chicken wire kinda netting thing,
then grow some pretty vines and stuff on it
for aesthetics.
 
it's going to be hard to keep them out
 
11:46 PM
I know :(
I'm thinking electric fence would be easiest
 
the chickin wire you'd have to bury or or otherwise tether to the ground or they'll be able to move it enough to get it probably.
 
yah exactly
 
you could just have an algae pond instead of a turtle pond
I hear they're pretty easy
 
but the whole point is to have a pond for my turtle
lol
why have a cat when you can have a plant?
 
that's where the land of make-believe comes into play
anyway, I'm heading out
see you all later
and get some sleep Ahmad
 
11:50 PM
like this:
the should stop them. that and a motion detector
maybe a motion detector with a gun hooked up
i hate raccoons.
 
lol
that looks pretty though
Cya carl. I will sleep. some day.
 
apparently you can buy predator piss at hunting stores
that might discourage them from coming around
 
that'll smell great on my patio
:)
looks like a screen is the way to go...
raccoons probly wont fall for that anyway, predator pee. I swear they are genius.
 
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