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6:00 PM
emmanuel is mad
shots fired
 
I am not mad, I just do not understand why people request access if they do not even talk...
just say hi...introduce yourself or something...
 
haha yeah
 
ok Hi..:)
 
hello
 
@Emmanuel i am little girll please dont Scold me..:(
 
6:07 PM
just a couple things, you do not need to ping
 
ok
 
just use pings when the person you are talking to seems not to be active
why did you want to join the room?
 
\o
 
6:08 PM
\o
 
lol, emmanuel, I think most people just join the room, because why not
 
So, who wants to open source Parse.com fully?
 
<-
are you working on a clone?
 
Desiging it atm
 
<-but I do not have the skills to do that...
 
6:09 PM
Should have a skeletal codebase up in a week or so
 
I wanted to do it this hackathon next WE
 
Y'all can pitch in from there
 
but then I saw that Facebook is a sponsor
couldn't have gone good lol
 
Every single Hackathon I have gone to has had them as one.
 
> And today, I'm presenting a hack that makes our sponsor obsolete. Who's with me?
 
6:10 PM
hehe
oh wait
no apparently fb isn't a sponsor
weird
what language are you doing it in?
 
Android SDK will be Java, server I haven't decided yet
Probably a mix of Python, Java, PHP etc.
 
I'd probably do it in flask
have you checked out flask?
or if you want to get fancy, check out sinatra
 
Python based, ain't it?
 
it's a ruby framework (sinatra)
flask is a python framework, yes
you'll be amazed by its simplicity
 
I'll take a look
 
6:17 PM
sinatra:
get '/yo' do
  "Why, hello there!"
end
flask:
@app.route('/yo', methods=['GET'])
def hello_world():
    return 'Good to see you again!'
that's it. that's all it takes to configure a GET request for /yo
 
Flask is cool.
 
Or use the Play Framework. Kinda similar. There is a routes file where you do GET / controllers.hello() and then in controllers in the public static Result hello() method you just return a string or a template. Also a lot of other cool things, in java or scala as well
 
the play framework is a full fledged mvc framework
I'm still not sure if I like mvc
 
Till date, I've never figured out MVC
I've been doing this 8 years
 
Yea, but its really simple, to create all the scaffolding just use Activator activator new and then your all good.
 
6:22 PM
The actual API for parse would be pretty simple, really
I could throw that together in a few hours
It's the scaling storage and all that's going to require thought
Being able to store arbitrary data
I'm not familiar with NoSQL data at all
 
yeah
I have no idea about scaling stuff
 
I think I know someone who runs a CDN
I'll talk to him about that
 
I just be realistic and think my apps will only have 2 users, me and my mom
6
 
Play scales really nicely. It also has dead simple data storage. Just define models(Using Ebean) and the use them like regular classes, only difference is they have a save method and some SQl stuff.
 
cdn?
 
6:25 PM
Content Devlivery Network
 
ah
 
Just caches resources to local servers near you. So the user can fetch the picture from a server next to them instead of in germany
 
I think the real selling point in parse is the simple SDK
you'd have to create some fancy wrappers around the REST API
 
So on first glance Parse looks like a horrible Cross platform app lib. But the fact that Ahmad isn't shitting on it means it is probs either 1) Not what I think it is 2) Not shit
 
@NoahHuppert yeah stackexchange do same
for their sites
 
6:33 PM
Yea, Even I use a CDN(Right now its useless)
 
Not a horrible cross platform lib
and you're right, the idea is not shit
 
user457812
Booyah, beat zone 1 of Necrodancer
 
0.o
I got to the conga boss and got so confused that I died.
 
user457812
I'm far worse at the first level than I am every level afterward just because of how slow the beat is.
 
Such a good game.
I love going near the shop keeper and hearing him sing with the music
 
user457812
6:37 PM
Also, the rapier is officially the best weapon ever.
 
user457812
Whip is second best.
 
Anything with range
 
user457812
Whip is hard to use but so very useful against every single boss and miniboss because it hits two spaces to your side
 
yea
How do you watch anime with sub titles? So hard.
Nm, don't have to. <3 Netflix
 
user457812
6:48 PM
By reading faster.
 
user457812
 
user457812
So fuzzy
 
what's that 0.o
 
Probs something horrible
Psycho-Pass :)
 
user457812
A moth.
 
user457812
6:59 PM
Psycho-Pass is good.
 
user457812
Also remembered I need to watch episode 3, I think, of Psycho-Pass 2.
 
Musics pretty sweet
 
user457812
Though I have a feeling Psycho Pass 2 won't be nearly as interesting.
 
user457812
Because everything that happens in season 1 just kind of gets ignored so far in season 2.
 
7:19 PM
@RaghavSood You played with SO chat before right? How does it work?
 
what do you mean by how does it work?
 
It uses Sockets right?
 
check this out, if you want to know:
yes, sockets
 
Yep
It's socket based
 
How does Auth work?
 
7:21 PM
Beyond that, sending messages, access requests, and all that are POST
It uses SO cookies
 
Test message for network profiler
 
user457812
7:45 PM
And back to watching Psycho Pass.
 
user457812
Without typing, because this keyboard penetrates headphones.
 
lol, So good
 
user457812
Boy, episode 3 starts off kinda horrifying.
 
0
Q: How to secure calling webservice in Android

WilliamsHello I am working on android application in which i required to execute few https web services so all my webservice URL and Web API KEY are in the code plus ip address of the server. When anyone do reverse engineering of my app then that guy can get my web service URL as well as API KEY then can...

 
@Williams really?
 
user457812
7:48 PM
Fun-fact: once someone gets to the reverse engineering phase, there's not a damn thing you can do.
 
what Emmanuel ?
 
you just come and drop question links
 
#OneBox
 
self destructing code?!121211
 
so what Emmanuel?
you think i don't follow room rules?
 
7:51 PM
look at that history
lately you just come to ask questions
 
problem is with you not others. Everyone know about me here and my chat history in android room is also good.
if you have problem with me then simply ignore it
 
rather than behave odd
& rudely
 
I am going to make myself really clear, I am warning you that if you keep coming just for help I will ban you
 
don't warn me
warn others not me
you started behave rudely
 
7:55 PM
@Emmanuel You might notice that many of those aren't his own questions.
 
nil, ahmad, warren all know about me
and my chat history here
you are the one who is just behave rudely with everyone
please read stackoverflow policy
be nice
you are not following that
 
Look at the second link I shared @Code-Apprentice
 
if i see same then of course they will ban you or suspend for few days
 
What is wrong with you man? I never disrespected you, I am just warning you.
 
7:57 PM
& learn not to warn others until you know nothing about guy
i am ok
you go & cool down
 
both of you cool down!
=p
 
@Ahmad can you believe this guy?
 
feel free to ping others also
warren, nil etc.
 
none of them are owners
 
7:59 PM
warren's not an owner any more?
 
ok but afaik they were
 
I know nil removed himself a little while ago
 
Warren is not an owner anymore
 
Is there any way to force close Android Studio?
 
ctr+alt+delete?
 
8:00 PM
I have been waiting 3 hours and the "increase XmX settings" error is not showing up :/
I will loose my unsaved changes
 
So its not responding?
 
Yes
You're correct, it's not responding
 
user457812
I'd say Emmanuel's overreacting to someone doing exactly what they're supposed to do with questions.
 
I am just making the point that he only comes to chat to post links of questions lately
 
user457812
So?
 
8:09 PM
as it can be seen by his recent chat history
 
user457812
Do you only come to chat to complain about people asking questions and pimp your library?
 
no
 
user457812
When did posting an SO question and letting it onebox become a problem?
 
when you only come to chat to do that
 
user457812
According to what?
 
8:11 PM
according to just coming to chat for help and not even saying hi
 
user457812
I never say hi when I join. You going to complain about that?
 
any rules in chat to say first hi then start conversation
 
user457812
You appear to be the only one pushing this draconian line of thought. I suggest dropping it.
 
where you have seen those rules ?
 
you do not ask questions
 
8:11 PM
or you make own or guess
 
user457812
So, if he says "hi" and then links a question, it's perfectly fine?
 
user457812
Is "hi" some code-word to flock people to the question?
 
user457812
Or is it just you being weird?
 
user457812
Think long and hard about this.
 
I just came here and my first message was "
Is there any way to force close Android Studio?"
 
8:14 PM
if you some of guys do same & i even didn't flag messages of your in which you behaved rudely anyway if you want & behave same then you will be banned from stackoverflow network
 
We do not encourage people to come to chat and drop a link. We come here to chat, to talk, not to drop a link to a question and expect answers. By saying "hi" I mean not only coming to chat to just ask questions.
 
BE NICE
Follow this ^
 
user457812
When did he say he expected an answer?
 
hi means coming to chat other than to ask questions
 
user457812
He did what we tell people to do with questions.
 
8:15 PM
you do not see a problem when someone comes and drop questions links repeatedly?
 
user457812
No.
 
then we differ there
 
user457812
Here's my stance: when you realize your entire role as an owner is to make up new rules that exclude people, especially questions in the form we want them in, then you are a detriment to the room as an owner. I removed myself as an owner when I realized I was doing that. Maybe you should do the same.
 
I agree
 
I do not mind questions in the form we want them. I mind repeated number of questions.
 
I was never not nice to you Williams
I never disrespected you
 
you did
now telling not
 
user457812
So you've set an arbitrary limit nowhere codified in the rules and you just plan to enforce this personally, without warning, with the intent to punish people for not reading your mind?
 
what is wrong with you ?
 
user457812
Again, perhaps you should consider removing your owner status. I knew when to do it.
 
8:18 PM
Williams, share a link of where I disrespected you?
 
no need for now.
 
Nil, just to be clear, I am not removing myself from the owners list
 
user457812
Then continue building a reputation for being the jerk.
 
user457812
Do exactly what Warren and everyone else who is no longer a room owner did.
 
Reminder : Be nice & read room rules & take correct decision & think 2 times what you are going to do instead of behave wrong with anyone here that is better otherwise you will be on 1 reputation for a long time
 
user457812
8:20 PM
Until, inevitably, you have to deal with another room owner like me, and you storm out angry that you've been fingered as the jerk.
 
user457812
That's the last I'm saying on this topic. Again, think about it.
 
Nil, let me share something with you, the only person people how people think is was a jerk is you on this chatroom is you. I am tired of you feeling that you have some kind of freedom telling or calling people jerks. In fact we are happy you are not a room owner anymore.
now, you are not an owner anymore
and that is for the better of chat
Williams, once again I was never disrespectful with you
 
Instead of such discussion, cool down & think it again
sorry if i was rude somewhere
 
Hi!!
I'm using android:layout_alignParentRight="true"and android:layout_width="wrap_content" for a RelativeLayout, but it still fills the whole parent layout.
 
nice ha
nil is a jerk
 
8:28 PM
omg
wtf
I was just away for an hour
Calm down everybody
 
what's going here guys ?
 
And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts,
And I looked and behold: a pale horse.
And his name, that sat on him, was Death.
And Hell followed with him.
 
and Emm is right, if you are just coming in here to post questions from SO then just post questions on SO
 
I tried to stay calm. I am always calm, you guys know me, but this is just nuts
 
did i miss something ?
 
8:30 PM
nice johgru! ha
 
user457812
Just missed Emmanuel acting weird about someone doing what we tell them to do
 
Johnny Cash - When The Man Comes Around
 
I love Johnny Cash
 
how am I acting weird? we do not support that behavior
that is it
 
Wanted Man
 
8:30 PM
we never did, we never will
 
user457812
We've always supported that behavior.
 
please guys.
 
you are telling me that it is ok for people to come and only post questions?!
 
really? that is not true nil
 
user457812
Also, to be clear, I removed myself as an owner, that didn't stop Ahmad from re-adding me as one. ಠ_ಠ
 
user457812
8:31 PM
Yes, we want people to post SO questions.
 
now you are being irrational to try yo make a point
 
user457812
That is the entire thing we have tried for a long damn time to get people to do.
 
What up Warren!
 
Emmanuel you can talk with Warren also now about me
 
user457812
Questions go on SO, not chat. If you have a question, you post it on SO and then link it here so it oneboxes.
 
8:32 PM
I want Warren back as owner
 
I also
 
user457812
That is what we wanted people to do.
 
Warren for Owner!!
 
he is a good owner
 
hello
 
8:33 PM
2014-18
 
user457812
There are no more complex behaviors to aim for.
 
hi Warren
 
people cannot come to chat to flood it with question links
If people come to chat to post 5 question links per week
 
Warren will you return to your rightful place as Owner/German Sercurity
?
 
it is not good
 
8:34 PM
STOP. Let's get back to why this started.
Williams didn't post 5 questions per week
 
user457812
So, one question per ~33 hours is a flood
 
He's not ver active in chat, true, but he's not only here to post questions
 
that is why I gave him a warning
 
I'm not in the room at indian office hours (where he's usually active), so I might not be able to correctly evaluate that though
 
first of all I don't want to be a room owner again and second of all I barely get what is going on in here as nil is on my block list. I can't and will not care what nil says. Period
 
8:36 PM
@WarrenFaith I agree
 
Let's just all be friends again. I will break this fight with a thought out stream of cat pics.
or turtle pics
 
9 mins ago, by TGMCians
did i miss something ?
 
user457812
 
flip that switch
 
8:41 PM
that's not a cute animal pic.
you're doing it wrong.
 
Sorry
 
lol
jk
 
Instructions unclear, house exploded
 
\o
 
8:44 PM
\o
 
Hey Carl!
haha
 
user image
2
 
lol
 
He's cure enough, right?
cute
 
I created a python library that will draw strings for you inside of minecraft =D
 
8:48 PM
wow!
 
user457812
IMPROPER KERNING.
 
so like a bot that plays the game and creates the text?
 
it's monospace
nah, it uses RaspberryJuice which is a plugin for PC servers that exposes essentially the same API that is exposed in the rasberry pi version of MC
essentially it gives you a Minecraft object with methods like mc.setBlock(x,y,z, block_type)
 
nice!
 
hey Foamy!
 
8:50 PM
so I defined all of the letters then made a drawstring method that parses a string and draws letters one at a time
whatup lucky
 
create a script that converts an autoCAD object to minecraft
that'd be amazing
 
I think I saw a 3D printer in minecraft that did essentially that some time
 
@Emmanuel : This is not a first time you did same with me. You did second time. You should not keep it continue otherwise it would be big loss to you not me. I know you also remember about first time also so there is no need to find it from chat history. #beNice. it's my last comment for this discussion. You are not a active here 24x7 , ahmad is one who is and that he knows about me a little bit. so first you should know & keep monitoring then say anything to anyone.
you are not free to say anything to anyone & having an ownership of room doesn't mean that you can do anything on stackexchange. you have to follow rules of stackexchange #benice then android rooms rules.
 
that is the reason because I re-warned you
because it was not the first time
 
Let's not get into that again.
 
8:55 PM
first time you also behaved rudely
second time you did same
this is not a good direction
 
I added support for newlines eventually I hope to support max width and auto wrap to newlines accordingly.
 
if you do same then ofcourse you will on 1 reputation for a long time
or for always
it's better to understand entire stackexchange system
 
I was gonna say "ummwat", but on second thought I'll just stay out of it. Time for food anyhow.
 
instead of just behaving like so
 
The last thing I am going to say is that neither of both times I said it to you rudely. I am not going to keep talking about this.
 
8:56 PM
I am also not a free to talk on this matter
you are one
that why you started same topic after first time
 
hahaha Foamy
 
hey everyone
 
what up eskimo
 
o/
 
trying to learn some renderscript
 
8:59 PM
yo eski
I looked into render script once
looked so weird
 

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