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11:00 AM
but it might be worse it you talk you into supporting shit like that
:D
 
Anonymous
@MadaraUchiha Nope. Since I'm black, so he should get my permission. If it's ok by me, then it's ok for everyone.
 
@MarkWeiman Not sure if still relevant, but the difference between your two codes is that now you create a persistent string (the last "1" arg to zend_string_init)
 
How to apply filter to dailymotion api for country, I have tried like api says but its only returning same list for different code
 
must ... not .. take ... the bait
 
I don't know the context, but a persistent string should only be necessary if the string should survive across multiple requests
 
What did @tereško do this time?
 
@NikiC is a better description of what is required "if the string should survive all subsequent requests until the process is shutdown" ?
 
hello guys, does anyone have idea about dailymotion api filter
 
because you said that to me, and I didn't get what you meant immediately ...
 
@JoeWatkins don't worry, I know the feeling :-)
 
11:04 AM
ohai @Joe
 
hai :)
 
Didn't see you around for a while?
 
@Retro no, you need to go ask in a place that's dedicated to DM, I presume they have a forum or something. Either that or ask a question on the main site.
 
morning joe
 
yeah, mix of things, trying to return to normal-ish now ...
moin @tereško
 
11:06 AM
@JoeWatkins yeah
 
@DaveRandom thanks
 
good, then I said a useful thing ...
 
@tereško … that was … a quick enlightening, but little bit too late … somehow ;o)
@JoeWatkins you're mostly useful \o/
 
hi bob :)
 
@JoeWatkins Were you on vacation or where were you the last 10 days?
 
11:13 AM
@Epodax if he betrays me, I shall kick his ass 2 :)
 
@bwoebi it seems a lot of people have acquired this knee-jerk reaction. It's kinda scary
 
Todays mission: everyone, individually, ask Joe where he's been and see how long it takes before he gets annoyed.
 
@bwoebi been around, just not feeling 100% ... or even 10% most days ...
 
:-P
 
@tereško What exactly did even actually happen?
 
11:16 AM
that you care at all is nice ...
 
@JoeWatkins no reason why we shouldn't
 
#11 is always here to help in any way we can, although that's often not really in any way at all.
We can usually hinder pretty well though.
 
take it for granted that we're nice to you ;-)
 
@bwoebi I triggered the politically correct crowd
I stated that humans are apes (of course, I did it in the most inflammatory way possible)
 
11:17 AM
@tereško and why were you unbanned?
 
oh @JoeWatkins you want an @room11.org address? I bought the domain for some things and can set up a forwarder if you want one.
 
@Gordon lol that's golden
 
@DaveRandom it was probably this phrase in the communique with mods:
> Of course, this who experiment hinged on people with diamonds accepting that humans were not made from clay by a scary imaginary father figure :P
 
@tereško I've once called my religion teacher being as clever as a pig, in class, right in his face, actually without even thinking that it could be insulting (at age 13)
 
rooar
 
11:19 AM
@tereško you really like Paradise Lost, do you?
 
yeah, but humans are apes, same way as they are mammals and vertebrates
 
How is the working life? @RonniSkansing :)
 
@Gordon yes, all hail Milton - the original shitlord
 
@PeeHaa heh
working
:)
 
:p
 
11:21 AM
where should i send the forward request ?@room11.org
 
@Gordon also the band is good too
 
@tereško Always interesting how people tend to pick the bits they want out of mod messages :P
 
@tereško that depends on which albums we are talking about
 
@Gordon draconian times
 
Jul 21 at 10:51, by DaveRandom
Anyone who wants an @room11.org email address forwarder, email your username and the target address to <my screen name>@room11.org :-)
 
11:23 AM
@Gordon I must admit, their depeche mode phase was kinda strange (though, I actually liked "one second")
 
@RonniSkansing Yes and delete that message plox ;) the first
Unless you both want to be spammed on a fresh address
 
@RonniSkansing there's a reason I didn't post that literally ;-)
 
Actually I'm not sure how much of a thing spam-crawlers are these days
 
@tereško I prefer Icon to Draconian Times, but agree
 
11:24 AM
@tereško [you sound a bit like Trump when saying that… :-D]
 
@DaveRandom Very much a thing
 
@PeeHaa Are they? I everywhere have my mail public, but don't get too much spam
 
@bwoebi Is it a gmail address?
 
no
 
@DaveRandom I'll take it ... also thanks ...
 
11:26 AM
Some other service with a decent spamfilter?
 
@PeeHaa m$. but they put things into Junk mail and there's not too much bullshit even there
 
@bwoebi You don't see most of it
 
@JoeWatkins mail me what you want as alias (can do more than one) and the addr you want me to fwd it to :-)
 
@bwoebi .. you probably should think on why you would think so
there are like 100 different conclusions one could reach based on ones private social and political leanings (both good an bad)
 
@tereško hmmm … because you … actually are Trump? and forgot your disguise for a moment? :-D
 
11:29 AM
naah, I just took all of his hair
 
forward to threading-project-name at threading-project-name, followed by a period, and finally the suffix org ... the threading project name happens to be pthreads ...
I'm krakjoe.
 
@JoeWatkins s/joe/ken
 
@JoeWatkins Lol, some of that stuff I need to go through myself.
 
@JoeWatkins it links to w3schools
 
11:35 AM
the language of it is very easy to understand though ...
@tereško omg, I didn't know that, haven't read all of it ...
 
@JoeWatkins The CPU and the fetch-execute cycle … really? o_O
 
yeah but read it though
 
Still relatively superficial… mhm
 
hi @bwoebi I have a new instance set up for debugging that segfault, if you still want ;)
 
user1642018
hi all.,
 
11:39 AM
yeah, just right for a pre-teen, 11-12 year old ... they only need that kind of superficial understanding
 
user1642018
when i am sending image resource to public static function , it gives " supplied resource is not a valid Image resource" why is that ?
 
there's going to be a lot of programmers out there today that couldn't give me that much information about how a CPU works ...
 
@eXtreme thanks, but not now … I guess tomorrow after waking up … That'll probably be around midnight UTC I think…
 
user1642018
but before sending image resource to the function its valid gd resource., but when i pass it to another function it says unknown resource.
 
the resource was destroyed
somehow ...
we can't guess ... pastebin, gist, or something like that ...
 
11:42 AM
@bwoebi no probl, I will just halt it and then start it later and send you connection details and you will do whatever you want ;)
 
@JoeWatkins What I have is (some) understanding of data dependencies, cache effects, latencies, throughput (?), cycles … but beyond that, yeah… but then you're no longer in the realm of where the hardware affects the software performance directly.
 
user1642018
okie.,
 
@JoeWatkins at least that's what's about todays CPUs…
 
@JoeWatkins CPUs are made by two waring god and their believers (there is also this small ARM sect, but they only control all the phones and every computer without a screen)
 
@tereško … which actually then would be the majority of computers
 
11:49 AM
on a side note, arm was just sold to a japanese corporation, for many billions
 
@bwoebi blasphemy
 
@tereško hehe
 
Wes
afternoons
 
@JoeWatkins GTFO! Somebody bought ARM?!
 
Anonymous
hey @Wes
 
11:52 AM
Sooo, chmod perm fine, user for nginx/fpm same as dir, no error in logs, but file_put_contents() doesn't create the file when through web request. Running it on CLI does. I miss anything?
 
I would expect you to know that, and expect you are still learning and the list will be longer in a year hence ... I don't aim to make a computer scientist out of a child, she kept requesting that I teach her properly, she taught herself quite a bit, and learned some in school, but it's not enough for her ... that's just a very good rough guide, but it will be supplemented with books (when I can find them) and code (when she knows enough to understand) ...
 
Well, I'll be damned.
I never thought they'd sell, but that's a pretty price tag to do it for.
 
@JonClements it was not intended as a serious answer to DaveRandom .. it's what we in business call "deflection"
 
11:54 AM
I wonder when Yahoo will ever decide to sell (if anyones even still interested in buying them) so I can cash out my damn stock
 
hugely helped by a very weak pound, weakest in 30 odd years
 
Geeze will the pound ever bounce back against the dollar :(
 
I'm selfishly enjoying the weak pound ...
 
@Sherif um, verizon just bought them today
 
yeah I was reading about that too
 
11:55 AM
@Gordon GTFO!!
 
OMG, this is news
finally I can cash out my damn stock options!
woohoo!
 
user1642018
okie., issue solved, i was doing imagedestroy in main function that was causing the reources to be destroyed .
 
user1642018
thanks
 
@Sherif How much did you loose?
 
11:56 AM
2 freedoms
 
When giant companies get bought I just keep thinking monopoly.
 
@bwoebi Technically, I lost nothing since I got them as options while employed for Yahoo.
 
@JoeWatkins wat
 
But damn, I've been waiting for them to actually go up for years. Clearly that was never going to happen.
 
it really wasn't
 
11:59 AM
@JoeWatkins is it just me, or is this another step in the ongoing USA telco freakout dues to GoogleFiber (and other smaller fiber providers)
 
Oh well, it's still a nice pay day, nonetheless.
 
also, Yahoo has been for sale at least since 2010
 
I'm unsure what the reason is, why now ... or how they come up with any of these numbers ...
 
@JoeWatkins Because the only money Yahoo ever made in the last 5 years was off of Ali Baba
They were never going to make any money. Their only option was an exit.
 
@tereško perhaps the telcos should just roll out better fiber instead of waiting to lose the race…
 
12:01 PM
and that's not included ... so I'm not sure why it's still worth such a large amount ...
I mean ... I haven't used yahoo since last century ...
 
They have an insane amount of real estate on the web.
 
@bwoebi they cant. They have sold their shareholders the "future is wifi" and now they cant backtrack
 
@JoeWatkins s/since .+/ever in my life/
 
Their assets are pretty much all they're worth. Whoever was going to buy Yahoo was basically just closing a pity deal.
 
@tereško wtf? bullshit. … that's pure bullshit what they're doing.
 
12:02 PM
They can be like "hey we're the company that bought one of the first real players on the web since the 90s"
It's all about the ego ;)
 
@bwoebi they have been doing it for decades+
 
I mean $4.8Bn is nothing. They spent nearly a quarter of that just on the Tumblr acquisition alone.
 
you can't very well have real estate on the web ... it's virtual estate, or just estate, or worthless without visitors, which is what they actually have ... things that people don't really use ...
 
@tereško now … I'll wait for the first 100 Gbit/s cables to homes…
 
@JoeWatkins I don't know about. Tumblr gets over 300M active monthly users.
That's not nothing by any stretch.
 
12:05 PM
@bwoebi they get government subsidies for laying fiber, but they are not doing it and instead they are betting on fiber being a temporary tech, to be surpassed by some wifi-like tech
 
oh I see what you mean by real estate
 
And that's just one of their Internet properties.
 
I didn't know they owned tumblr actually
 
Yea, they were the only search giant left without a social networking play.
Companies buying companies just for prestige... Welcome to the age of the Internet!
 
google's only (working) social network is youtube
 
12:06 PM
@tereško Not interested in significant packet loss (everything about 0.05% is significant) …
I really notice that in real time TCP transfers over wlan vs over ethernet…
 
@bwoebi who cares about package loss, when you can lobby
 
@tereško You can lobby the gov… but will people buy it?
 
@bwoebi you are speaking as if they have any choice
 
I prefer a 1 Gbit/s Fiber with one in a million packets lost to a 20 Gbit/s wireless with one in a thousand packets lost…
 
@bwoebi USA telcos effectively have monopolies on per-house-basis
 
12:09 PM
@JoeWatkins It's still a brand people (the general public) recognise as being one of the "internet big players" even if it's not actually true any more
 
@tereško one company owns the vast majority of the network covering the united kingdom also, but there is a competitive market ...
 
@tereško I wonder whether google fiber someday will really take off and surpass the archaic telcos
 
Help, where should I start if there are too many session files are created.
i'm using nginx. thanks :)
 
I think it won't be long before the government assumes control of it ...
or there's talk of breaking up the company that owns it ...
 
@bwoebi currently telcos are extremely limiting googles ability to take over ... by simple technique of legislation
 
12:12 PM
@tereško still. But google is getting more and more powerful too.
 
hence - the purchase of yahoo
 
@DaveRandom that maybe true, but unless they come up with something pretty fucking amazing, like in the next week or so, our children will not know who they are ...
 
@tereško I doubt this will be very significant
 
Help, what should I do if my piece of string is too long ? @mCorr
 
@JoeWatkins buy more memory.
 
12:14 PM
LOL
 
@JoeWatkins afaik verizon is largely unknown outside north america as well so... seems like an odd thing for them to do. Maybe the accountant is crazy and just wanted a piece of internet history, like those people who get drunk and go to auctions and spend millions on Ferraris that were owned by famous people in 60s
 
what if that's the most reasonable motive suggested so far @DaveRandom
gotta go get misses from work, lata folks
 
Where can I download more RAM?
3
See you Joe
 
parting instastar
lata
 
12:17 PM
@Fabor just use your disk. It just will be slow. that's all.
@JoeWatkins later :-)
 
@Fabor If you give me your bank details (to verify you are a real person ofc), I'll email you some for free.
 
@Sjon @JoeWatkins thanks
help:
How to check what process is creating the session file?
 
time to reach for my bed… awake for a good 20 hours…
 
@Fabor according to internet, it will be downloaded automatically with one of XBox updates in really near future
 
12:27 PM
lol, those guys.
 
btw, finished "Singularity" on the weekend .. a nice shooter
 
Looks like it has a half life feel
 
hey Hii tereško you returned .. :)
 
@Fabor yes, though you are limited to only two guns :(
I liked the story
 
12:45 PM
Thx Chris
 
np :-)
There's currently no SPF on the domain but I'm probably going to create one at some point, might set up an SMTP relay for it but suggest for now you just don't send as.
 
Especially with the weather recently, worth applying some SPF.
 
1:00 PM
@Gordon No, it will not prevent another Class from Calling register_master(), Mr. Gordon (SIR). It will just call it but still not execute the any that is in not within the if block, SIR. — Poiz 56 secs ago
look @tereško, I am a knight now, too
 
doesnt make you all warm inside =)
 
@Fabor <monkey_rimshot.gif>
 
@tereško more on the outside if I don't stop laughing soon
 
1:16 PM
I have a problem in my website, it shows my code when I change the subjectId to ?subjectId=<script>alert("Hello");</script>
 
@Gordon also, that's some aggressive use of "sir"
 
@Gordon lolwut. dat guy...
 
it's about a step away from saying "would you fancy to go fuck yourself, SIR."
 
@bwoebi So, I found & fixed this. A change in the code should enable the submit-button, but that is non-existing when the script is abusive
 
Anonymous
1:25 PM
> After all, there are those who know what makes sense and those who don't which puts those who don't one million light years away from common-sense (which by the way is so un-common) that the sense of those that makes sense becomes absolute non-sense.... Good Day; Sir
 
Anonymous
Makes sense.
 
user895378
@RonniSkansing It's solving the same set of problems as node ... only you can write your code in php :)
 
morning, @rdlowrey
 
user895378
o/
 
How's work?
 
user895378
1:30 PM
It's good. I haven't had a lot of time to spend in code but starting this week I'll be a bit more hands-on with some PHP. Looking forward to that :)
 
@rdlowrey yea =) I figured that much, you know I think its a fine project, but I am not sure why I would want php to be nodejs =) reminds me of the v8 integration in php not long ago
 
user895378
Oh, it's nothing like that ^
 
When's the next Artax tag @rdlowrey? :)
 
user895378
lol
 
@rdlowrey is there much diff between amphp and react
=p
 
user895378
1:31 PM
only performance ;)
 
yea and I am guessing amphp is such fine tuned
 
@RonniSkansing Node doesn't have types and good OOP support.
 
user895378
but seriously, I prefer the amp apis ... that's why I originally started working on it: performance and api preference
 
@kelunik yea unless typoscripto =)
 
user895378
A node app will fall over and die if you have an uncaught exception
 
1:32 PM
@RonniSkansing Sure, but tooling all the things sucks, too.
 
user895378
there are a lot of things to not like about node
 
@Gordon Sir, Insults never comes from someone without Common-Sense.... and only someone without Common Sense would see a Snake inside a Rope... which doesn't exist.... Now, why delete something that Makes no Sense? If the entire human race suddenly became Intellectuals (MASTERs), who would run the Restaurant & Clean Public Toilets (SLAVEs)? In the end, no insult is intended, only the ramblings of someone without Common Sense - whom is still needed because Masters can't clean their own garbages.... — Poiz 3 mins ago
 
I know i know =)
 
user895378
at the same time you have much better community support for non-blocking libraries in node than you do in php
 
@Fabor Last one was just a few days ago.
 
user895378
1:33 PM
for example, I still can't use the aerys web server at work because I haven't had time to write a non-blocking amqp client
 
Thanks for the feedback @rdlowrey I owe you 1 unit tests
 
Oh. Cool. I'll switch to that then. Cheers @kelunik
 
@Fabor You should, as it's a security update.
 
@PeeHaa @kelunik did someone flag that guy yet?
 
@Gordon I didn't.
 
1:34 PM
@kelunik I was on dev-master due to something I can't remember being fixed on that version.
 
@rdlowrey We have a beanstalk client if that helps. :P
 
Definitely getting to grips more with phpstorm, really liking it. Missing a few bits and bobs from ST but it makes up for it in other ways
 
@JonClements @MadaraUchiha is posting answers while drunk or high flag worthy?
 
Anonymous
@Gordon I'm going to invite him to create some docs, he seems to match the criteria
 
@Gordon I said good day sir!
 
1:40 PM
@Sean why? hello!
 
@Gordon Strange... it'd already got flags... cleared up the interesting comments... will keep an eye on it
 
@JonClements thanks cabbage master
 
@Gordon Just quipping at those messages. I have absolutely no idea what he is trying to say.
 
Anonymous
@Sean 'I'm high' I think :/
 
the way he stresses Common Sense I am willed to assume he is a nephew of Your Common Sense
 
user895378
1:41 PM
@kelunik unfortunately it doesn't ... need something that speaks amqp
 
@JonClements can you check if there is any indication whether this is YCS?
 
Had a look at amqp, but didn't have time / passion to write a library for it.
 
I've always liked rabbit
Though predominantly use beanstalkd
 
Beanstalk is really easy to implement.
 
Indeed. For when I need simple queue stuff it's my go to.
 
1:47 PM
@rdlowrey You're alive?
You should be in here more often dude, what's happened?
 
@Gordon I flagged for cleanup
 
@JonClements I think he just revenge dv'ed me :D
 
Wes
have you guys ever tested with... brute force? i can guess very little by checking through the public interface, i need to check private fields again and again. and even if i did it, i will likely miss something, or have a huge wall of impossible to maintain tests
so i was thinking to rather input thousands, millions of test samples of which i can easily guess the expected result, and assume that if the result is always valid over such a big number of tests, then also the implementation is correct. opinions?
 
1:55 PM
@Machavity Although yes the way consts work it's not really internal
 
@PeeHaa Yeah, the verbage is hard to come up with on that one
Am open to suggestions
 
Can you fix it so that constants can be made to not be part of the public api in php-src? :P
 
Wes
cc @Danack ^
 
@PeeHaa :P
 
@Machavity You said you were open to suggestions right? :P
lol sorry @JonClements
oh quicker then the eye
\o/
 
1:59 PM
@PeeHaa Suggestions* (*must be able to get past at least @NikiC)
 
user895378
@Jimbo yeah, I'm alive. I just work all the time. And when I haven't been working I've been girlfriending.
 
user895378
But single again as of last weekend \o/
3
 
He's single @Fabor @PeeHaa, now's your chance(s)!
 
Girlfriending? WHAT!? /life
 
@Machavity I'm sure he wouldn't mind if you come up with a somewhat sane solution
 
2:00 PM
Oh wait
 
@rdlowrey <3
 
Second line savior !! My life has meaning again!
 
user895378
@Jimbo Had drinks on a Manhattan rooftop with Brian Williams yesterday ... he said you'd gotten a job in Spain or something?
 
@rdlowrey Same actually, recently single, got a job in Spain :) Starting in Oct
 
Come to Asia @rdlowrey we'll figure it out.
 
Anonymous
2:01 PM
xD
 
user895378
I've never been to Asia, actually
 
@rdlowrey Mallorca, by the beach ;) Cocktails and Spanish girls!
 
user895378
oh man
 
user895378
sign me up for a visit
 
@rdlowrey Mid sept onward seems like a good time to start.
 
2:01 PM
@Machavity I would add that constants are better described as "immutable global state"
 
@rdlowrey More than welcome any time after xmas, I get "unlimited holidays". Yeah Brian's a cool guy, BounceExchange were hiring and they're opening an office in the UK so would be a way for me to work remotely for a year then transfer to the US. Will be keeping in touch with him as I'll probably take a look at that in the future
 
Nah, screw Jimbo. Spain is meh. Come to Asia.
I've been to both, I know these things -_-
 
Anonymous
What kind of jobs do you people have?
 
Anonymous
I can't find one, but you are choosing places
 
Freelance AKA Unemployed from September.
 
2:06 PM
@Fabor Had enough of the UK? Bloody British
 
Making my own Brexit.
 
@samayo I'm a CTO, CFO and CEO
 
Anonymous
and GTFO
 
@samayo yes. Majority of "full time developers" here choose what they want to do and where they want to work.
 
Anonymous
@Jimbo What part of Spain are you moving to again?
 
2:07 PM
it's what you call a "sellers market"
 
@JayIsTooCommon Mallorca
(Balearic Island)
 
when I was looking for my current work, I went to two interviews
first company failed the interview
 
Anonymous
@Jimbo Niice
 
@Jimbo bring @Fabor with you. You'll likely get a talent recruitment cash incentive and won't be so alone
 
@Gordon But there'd have to be.... talent...
:D
@Fabor once I've passed my probation I'm more than happy to get you over there :P
 
2:10 PM
oh… true… sorry @Fab, you're out
 
I'm Asia bound. Probably China. The food is tastier for me.
 
@Fabor Safe travels!
 
Thanks, but I got a month here first -_-
 
Where's here?
 
UK
 
2:15 PM
hey Gurl!
 
@samayo it's easy to get a job as a developer, if you have had a job as a developer
:D
 
2:46 PM
evening
 
@PeeHaa You are C[A-Z]O
 

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